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tooltip:
Two questions sir

1)I'll appreciate if you throw more light on the kind of visa you used to undertake the course in the USA and if this happened recently
2) I'm aware that getting work or an H1-B visa sponsorship is quite difficult, how were you employed rapidly even with your immigration status?

Thank you for sharing

I won the visa lottery about 4 years ago which made it way easier as a green card holder to get a decent job.

Guy, don't say what u don't know.. except if u went to a private uni. In my skool, if u like, be smarter than Adam Smith. . U write ur exam, and u re very sure of what u wrote.. result comes out, u see a D or E..

In my department, it's ur course mate that is marking ur script, just becos he's an errand boy to d lecturer.. they tell u to pay 30k before they give u B.. I had missing script twice in CSC 200.. and missing script is same as carry over.. u write a letter to d skool senate, it's d same evil lecturers u see there..
let me just stop here.. our education system is messed up

SaiBuharii:
The reason you finished with a pass is not because you refused to sort, it's because of you refused to sit down attend classes and read.

We are not talking of 2.2 or 2.1 here, you got a pass man...which is the worst available..

*Just to correct that assertion.

chynergy1:
kudos, i went for a master degree abroad,
came back, hardly any better job in naija.
today i am made with a skill i learnt from the adventure.

my pals will soon smile when i am reader to coach others

why did u come back sef?

banmee:
Bros, the truth is, most people all over the world don't know how to apply for jobs, especially in Nigeria. It does not matter what degree you have. Employers, even in Nigeria, are mostly interested in what you can do. Just like the OP, i graduated with a pass. And to make it worse, i graduated with a HD degree. The difference between a HD and HND is that when you graduate, you will not be allowed to serve in the NYSC. I got a pass not because i was dull but i just was not interested in the way the academic system is set up in Nigeria. My first passion was football which i was extremely good at. I was actually called up twice to screen for the under 16 and 21, but alas i did not make it. Back in the day, if you played for Abuede/Osjack youth teams, you most likely would get a call up. Anyway, what made me stand out was my love for things that most Nigerians at the time were not interested in. The way people communicated with one another and languages. I also loved comic books, video games, movies, novels etc. Armed with all these tiny skills and experiences, i could hold a highly intellectual conversation with almost anyone. My first job after school was at in a marketing firm. I do not have a marketing degree. The HR rep liked my vocabulary and the way i presented my arguments. We talked forever and mostly not about the job. I could tell he was at odds with the fact that i had a pass and did not have an NYSC certificate. They gave me a chance anyway and i've never looked back since. Part of my job was mainly to interact with high end potential clients, especially expatriates. In no time, i was already a supervisor and later a manager. I didn't realize it then, but employers don't really care that much about your degree. They care about you, your experiences and what you can bring to the table. Most people in Nigeria are as dull as a blunt knife. They cannot hold a conversation even if it is to save their lives. Have you ever had a conversation with a Nollywood addict? O'boy, it can be very exasperating. What am i even saying? Have you read some of the comments here on Nairaland? With a pass, i've worked with BAT Nigeria, NBC, Insight communications, etc Focusing on degrees is half the battle. Develop yourself and the sky is the limit.

I must tell you that you just wrote a good stuff here.please can I send you my CV so that you can help me submit to your company. I will really appreciate that.thanks a lot.

:-)

Samtobh:
Nice write-up OP.
Well, your assertion may not be so true about the class of degree discrimination.
I've applied to more than 500 jobs online with a CV always restructured, well-furnished and updated. Ye, no single invite.I've even veered off my field into some areas I consider can boost one's chances but dear, the same issue keep coming up.
To add up, I have a diploma in computer engineering, learnt HTML/JavaScript/CSS programming, HPLC/GC-MS/AAS analytical methods, and possess a first class degree.
Feb.14th will make it 2 years I did my POP,still in my parent's House.
So, my dear, God blessed you at the appointed time.

My friend,
Heaven help those who help themselves,this your kind of write up makes me really angry.
Why with all that kind of educations you still don't know what to do?.

I left Nigeria through no help from no one with only primary 3 level of education.Today the sky is my limit.

If truly you can do all you said here.my man you're in demand over here.

Better find your way out ASAP o.

May the force be with you.

Goldencollins:
God saved U when u left Nigeria for USA other wise by now u would have been somewhere mixing concrete and cement.
ThankGod for U......leaving Nigeria @ dis time when Buhari nd his APC doesn't know their left to their right is the best thing that can happen to anybody for real.

because he told you he left last may after swearing in?
and Abba M0r0n immigration scam

Thanks OP for this post. your story is not a fluke one. more stories like yours are bound to be heard in the very near future, it is not university degree certificate that will guarantee one's daily bread. rather the skill set one possesses. your story buttresses this point. acquiring a higher degree is not necessary. get the basic education and acquire a skill. Be it IT related, be it hair dressing/barbing, whatever, encourage your wards to get skills. that is the way forward now.

think about it, how many people are out there with PhDs, Masters, not to talk of Bachelors who are gatemen, drivers?? there are quite a number.
it's time we start re-orientating ourselves away from secular higher education.

"Sorters" have spoiled education in Nigeria. Certificates are mere titles just like chieftaincy titles presently in Nigeria. Just like anything else, Nigerians have fuvcked up our educational system.

These days you see people going for Master's degree just to enhance getting a servant job in one office. Hmm. Wahala dey o.

kroger:
I graduated with the least of grades "PASS" from one of the federal universities, not because i was a numskull but because i did not join the band wagon of the "sorters". More so i was financially inept which resulted in missing some exams, but after 4 years the war was over. With my kind of grade the future was deem for me with no hope. I took some computer programming courses to add to my CV i thought it would be of help. Alas four years on no single interview, i was roaming the streets without hope

God finally answered my call and i travel to the united states for greener pastures, i enrolled for a six months IT course and after completion i received my first phone interview from one of the telecom company and later on skype interview. after three days i was called for a one on one interview at their corporate office. It was straight forward with three interviewers, they asked about my skills and what i could do , which i told them with great confidence. A system was brought in and i was asked to configure bla bla bla which i did. To my amazement none asked a question pertaining my degree what they where hammering on was on the job.

After completion i was given the job instantly to resume the following Monday with a well furnished office and a very good pay. Right Now i am the manager of my team of which i developed a standard software for the company that remains number one.

My point is why is Nigeria hell bent on class of degree rather what the individual has to offer.There are lots of talented 3rd class and pass job seekers out there if given a chance will perform far better. I think this is also one of the bane that is making the Nigerian economy a far cry, it hurts seeing the lower class graduates not given a chance. I weep for Nigeria. I recently sent my resume to one of the Nigerian job boards just to test if i will be contacted but no call as usual maybe because of my lower degree . Nigeria has a very long way to go, even the oyibos that taught us the system isn't even using it its just so annoying.

For all those with a lower degree believe in yourself, a paper should not define your worth but rather look inward and surely you will conquer.

Pardon my English and thanks for reading

in IT degree do not rili matter, its like a skill! But i pray i have A ie first class up with the skill... Still a student.
Thank God for ur Life!

Ok, what is the best place ( company) to do my IT. Any1 with a better answer please! I need a challenging one.

lastmessenger:
I must tell you that you just wrote a good stuff here.please can I send you my CV so that you can help me submit to your company. I will really appreciate that.thanks a lot.

Sorry bro, not in Nigeria anymore. But i know you can do it though.

RVBC:
a very good question! How do you want to give back to Nairalander now that you are made?

I am planning on setting up an IT firm soonest.

There is a huge probability that you would have gotten a great job in Nigeria if you actually equipped yourself with the several IT certifications including the US 6 month IT course certification as well as experience you garnered if you applied. I am also 100% sure that you would NOT have gotten that job if you applied with only your 3rd Class Nigerian Degree.

So, when you come here to castigate the system, understand that the job you got there, had nothing to do with your 3rd class, and for sure, that cant give you a job in US.

Best bet for people who graduated with not-so-good level is to be employers, and I have seen so many drop outs and 3rd class/pass graduates becoming super rich, because they knew their degree is not worth presenting, the only thing they have left to wager life is their will power and hard and smartwork.

Do not misrepresent facts based on your feelings.

Omotaday:
ehya, God will bless you soon. i want to ask a a question out of the topic, im a mass communication student but i have the passion for all these programming stuff. do you think i can make it as a non science student? and how can i enroll for this tutor? or where? i would be glad if you can reply me.

yea bro you can, i can help you by giving you the tutorials and what to use to run it, you can message, or post your email for link up.

Am beginning to doubt this story..How where you able to do that type.of Job in the US with your type of Visa?Bro which kain visa them give you?Oya Talk now..Another lie Mohammed in the building..

Montaque:
You should have known the uni he graduated from. Some uni are so messed up that intelligent people can't make it beyond 2.2
Lecturers. that tell u to write word for word what is in his note, those that give the limited A grade to their gf, those that victimize u when u ask difficult questions in class.
Bro, I believe his story intoto

U just spoke the truth!!!

My own future company will solicit for job applications irrespective of degree class but with a hands on practicals during interviews to prove you gat the much needed skills.
It's we job seekers and present employees that will break that trend, because we are going to become employers of labour soon.

kroger:
My talent would have been wasted like many others, yeah i am planning on starting up an IT company in Nigeria soonest and solely for talented nairalanders and not looking at degree.

to make ur IT firm boom fast, make ur location in ph

Sijo01:
While in Nigeria, you did nothing to improve your cv so blame no employers for not reaching out to you.
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Congratulations though.

He said he took some programming courses while in Nigeria. I bet your eyes skipped that.

Frankly speaking nigeria is not ecouraging,when it come to issue of searching for jobs or employment,but i notice one thing that was xcluded when am Reading the write up and peoples commenting, age limit and sometime sex seriously obstacle especially banking sector......u can add more.

kroger:
I graduated with the least of grades "PASS" from one of the federal universities, not because i was a numskull but because i did not join the band wagon of the "sorters". More so i was financially inept which resulted in missing some exams, but after 4 years the war was over. With my kind of grade the future was deem for me with no hope. I took some computer programming courses to add to my CV i thought it would be of help. Alas four years on no single interview, i was roaming the streets without hope

God finally answered my call and i travel to the united states for greener pastures, i enrolled for a six months IT course and after completion i received my first phone interview from one of the telecom company and later on skype interview. after three days i was called for a one on one interview at their corporate office. It was straight forward with three interviewers, they asked about my skills and what i could do , which i told them with great confidence. A system was brought in and i was asked to configure bla bla bla which i did. To my amazement none asked a question pertaining my degree what they where hammering on was on the job.

After completion i was given the job instantly to resume the following Monday with a well furnished office and a very good pay. Right Now i am the manager of my team of which i developed a standard software for the company that remains number one.

My point is why is Nigeria hell bent on class of degree rather what the individual has to offer.There are lots of talented 3rd class and pass job seekers out there if given a chance will perform far better. I think this is also one of the bane that is making the Nigerian economy a far cry, it hurts seeing the lower class graduates not given a chance. I weep for Nigeria. I recently sent my resume to one of the Nigerian job boards just to test if i will be contacted but no call as usual maybe because of my lower degree . Nigeria has a very long way to go, even the oyibos that taught us the system isn't even using it its just so annoying.

For all those with a lower degree believe in yourself, a paper should not define your worth but rather look inward and surely you will conquer.

Pardon my English and thanks for reading

Sorry, but you need to let go of this delusion. You got a Pass degree because you weren't smart, not because you weren't intelligent. To insinuate that you needed to 'sort' to even get a 2.2 is laughable.

All this proves is what many people already know: For many Nigerians, University education is not for them. You could have easily picked up this same IT skill from outside the University and gone on to your career as an IT professional somewhere else.

sorextee:
Guy, don't say what u don't know.. except if u went to a private uni. In my skool, if u like, be smarter than Adam Smith. . U write ur exam, and u re very sure of what u wrote.. result comes out, u see a D or E..
In my department, it's ur course mate that is marking ur script, just becos he's an errand boy to d lecturer.. they tell u to pay 30k before they give u B.. I had missing script twice in CSC 200.. and missing script is same as carry over.. u write a letter to d skool senate, it's d same evil lecturers u see there..
let me just stop here.. our education system is messed up

This is categorically untrue.
And if you know what you wrote was correct, there's nothing stopping you from either talking to the lecturer or HOD or filing a formal complaint.

You really have to work at it to graduate with a PASS degree in Nigeria.

Samtobh:
Nice write-up OP.
Well, your assertion may not be so true about the class of degree discrimination.
I've applied to more than 500 jobs online with a CV always restructured, well-furnished and updated. Ye, no single invite.I've even veered off my field into some areas I consider can boost one's chances but dear, the same issue keep coming up.
To add up, I have a diploma in computer engineering, learnt HTML/JavaScript/CSS programming, HPLC/GC-MS/AAS analytical methods, and possess a first class degree.
Feb.14th will make it 2 years I did my POP,still in my parent's House.
So, my dear, God blessed you at the appointed time.

Get in contact with me...

Samtobh:
Nice write-up OP.
Well, your assertion may not be so true about the class of degree discrimination.
I've applied to more than 500 jobs online with a CV always restructured, well-furnished and updated. Ye, no single invite.I've even veered off my field into some areas I consider can boost one's chances but dear, the same issue keep coming up.
To add up, I have a diploma in computer engineering, learnt HTML/JavaScript/CSS programming, HPLC/GC-MS/AAS analytical methods, and possess a first class degree.
Feb.14th will make it 2 years I did my POP,still in my parent's House.
So, my dear, God blessed you at the appointed time.

Bro, leave God out of this.

Nigeria is an insane country.

If it were to be abroad, you know the extent you would have gone on your career.

We keep shouting God but we have forgotten to address the basic things.

I wish you the best bro..

mikaael:
why did u come back sef?

it was a hard decision my dear.
tried every means to avoid it. i had to leave the last day before my visa expired
almost all my guy did not return, married oyibo babes rather.

i am better now but not without a hard fight.

Shinyjay:
Congratulations bro... But to be candid success in life goes beyond your degrees. I have seen professors who can't even boast of a house to their name.... So you can be the best in school and still flop in life. The only thing that is important for a man's elevation to greatness is GRACE. But this doesn't mean you shouldn't strive for the best any where you find yourself.

So, if professors in Nigeria cannot boast of a house to their name, who should we blame? The last time I checked, professors in Nigeria are earning over N500,000 monthly.

OK.thanks a lot.i will appreciate any assistance

banmee:
Sorry bro, not in Nigeria anymore. But i know you can do it though.

Never let ur grade determine what u want be in life.... Pass and 3rd class student are smarter than any other grade cos they think of what to do to survive in life, immediately they left school while other grade sitting at home waiting for job in this country of ours

SaiBuharii:
The reason you finished with a pass is not because you refused to sort, it's because of you refused to sit down attend classes and read.

We are not talking of 2.2 or 2.1 here, you got a pass man...which is the worst available..

*Just to correct that assertion.

Or even 3rd class. The dude might even be full of shit sef for all I care. Nigerian Educational system is bleeped we know. It is not news.

Please don't mistake causation for correlation. You think surviving in the USA is beans? Forget all those things you see in Hollywood. Getting a work permit in Yankee is not easy.

But this is Nairaland where people can post anything and brainwash people.

Better pick yourself up, forget about your degree instead of waiting to get picked.

Congrats OP if your story is true.

kroger:
I graduated with the least of grades "PASS" from one of the federal universities, not because i was a numskull but because i did not join the band wagon of the "sorters". More so i was financially inept which resulted in missing some exams, but after 4 years the war was over. With my kind of grade the future was deem for me with no hope. I took some computer programming courses to add to my CV i thought it would be of help. Alas four years on no single interview, i was roaming the streets without hope

God finally answered my call and i travel to the united states for greener pastures, i enrolled for a six months IT course and after completion i received my first phone interview from one of the telecom company and later on skype interview. after three days i was called for a one on one interview at their corporate office. It was straight forward with three interviewers, they asked about my skills and what i could do , which i told them with great confidence. A system was brought in and i was asked to configure bla bla bla which i did. To my amazement none asked a question pertaining my degree what they where hammering on was on the job.

After completion i was given the job instantly to resume the following Monday with a well furnished office and a very good pay. Right Now i am the manager of my team of which i developed a standard software for the company that remains number one.

My point is why is Nigeria hell bent on class of degree rather what the individual has to offer.There are lots of talented 3rd class and pass job seekers out there if given a chance will perform far better. I think this is also one of the bane that is making the Nigerian economy a far cry, it hurts seeing the lower class graduates not given a chance. I weep for Nigeria. I recently sent my resume to one of the Nigerian job boards just to test if i will be contacted but no call as usual maybe because of my lower degree . Nigeria has a very long way to go, even the oyibos that taught us the system isn't even using it its just so annoying.

For all those with a lower degree believe in yourself, a paper should not define your worth but rather look inward and surely you will conquer.

Pardon my English and thanks for reading

Tell them, Bro!

Samtobh:
Nice write-up OP.
Well, your assertion may not be so true about the class of degree discrimination.
I've applied to more than 500 jobs online with a CV always restructured, well-furnished and updated. Ye, no single invite.I've even veered off my field into some areas I consider can boost one's chances but dear, the same issue keep coming up.
To add up, I have a diploma in computer engineering, learnt HTML/JavaScript/CSS programming, HPLC/GC-MS/AAS analytical methods, and possess a first class degree.
Feb.14th will make it 2 years I did my POP,still in my parent's House.
So, my dear, God blessed you at the appointed time.

Don't worry ur skills shall certainly pay someday, in other news I'm learning HTML, will advance to CSS and Javascript with time , please any advice or recommendation for me ? Tnx !

kroger:
I graduated with the least of grades "PASS" from one of the federal universities, not because i was a numskull but because i did not join the band wagon of the "sorters". More so i was financially inept which resulted in missing some exams, but after 4 years the war was over. With my kind of grade the future was deem for me with no hope. I took some computer programming courses to add to my CV i thought it would be of help. Alas four years on no single interview, i was roaming the streets without hope

God finally answered my call and i travel to the united states for greener pastures, i enrolled for a six months IT course and after completion i received my first phone interview from one of the telecom company and later on skype interview. after three days i was called for a one on one interview at their corporate office. It was straight forward with three interviewers, they asked about my skills and what i could do , which i told them with great confidence. A system was brought in and i was asked to configure bla bla bla which i did. To my amazement none asked a question pertaining my degree what they where hammering on was on the job.

After completion i was given the job instantly to resume the following Monday with a well furnished office and a very good pay. Right Now i am the manager of my team of which i developed a standard software for the company that remains number one.

My point is why is Nigeria hell bent on class of degree rather what the individual has to offer.There are lots of talented 3rd class and pass job seekers out there if given a chance will perform far better. I think this is also one of the bane that is making the Nigerian economy a far cry, it hurts seeing the lower class graduates not given a chance. I weep for Nigeria. I recently sent my resume to one of the Nigerian job boards just to test if i will be contacted but no call as usual maybe because of my lower degree . Nigeria has a very long way to go, even the oyibos that taught us the system isn't even using it its just so annoying.

For all those with a lower degree believe in yourself, a paper should not define your worth but rather look inward and surely you will conquer.

Pardon my English and thanks for reading

Love this. I hope ogas at the top are reading this.