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omonnakoda:
The port is on the Sea that might be a bitter pill for you to swallow but there it is on the MAP

the port is not on the sea coast, its on the lagoon right at the other side of CMS/MARINA. Does this look like a sea coast to you?

omonnakoda:
But you cannot dredge the River Niger as you would like without the consent of those upstream and downstream. That is a selfish aspiration.

No one will forget the devastating flood that swept Nigeria 3 or 4 years ago in a hurry. That dredging idea is NOT GOING TO HAPPEN

Obuaku is not on River Niger, it's on Imo River.
The community south to Obuaku is Opobo, a traditionally Igbo friendly and related hybrid clan.

So the dredging will happen, sorry if that's a bitter pill for you to swallow.

omonnakoda:
Panama canal is a River Port? You are an Ignormus

Please tell us

WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE RIVER

i wasn't emphatic on panama canal being a river port. Was trying to cure your unhealthy stereotyped view that ports are only built or viable on natural sea-water/ocean. The world has gone past such thinking. May i also tell you that Onne port can be termed a river port,as it is not situated directly on 'major' source of water. In fact,the report says that the would be Obaku port is about 25 nautical miles to the ocean,while onne port is about 45nm. So which one will be more navigable?

betterABIAstate:
the port is not on the sea coast, its on the lagoon right at the other side of CMS/MARINA. Does this look like a sea coast to you?

Every sea port is Engineered and constructed so after construction that is what it may look like .

So if you like say it is on the Obuaku River that is your problem. The ships sail all the way to the port and sail out and there is no obstruction so by DEFINITION it is on the SEA

LAGOON
A stretch of salt water separated from the sea by a low sandbank or coral reef.

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/lagoon

FOR YOUR INFORMATION


MARINA IS ON THE SEA

EteEdoho:
i wasn't emphatic on panama canal being a river port. Was trying to cure your unhealthy stereotyped view that ports are only built or viable on natural sea-water/ocean. The world has gone past such thinking. May i also tell you that Onne port can be termed a river port,as it is not situated directly on 'major' source of water. In fact,the report says that the would be Obaku port is about 25 nautical miles to the ocean,while onne port is about 45nm. So which one will be more navigable?

You weren't emphatic so you take it back? IT IS NOT A RIVER PORT?

Also ther is no parallel or nexus between that and this Obuaku Idea
Where did I express this so called view that ports are only built on Natural sea water.

Is the PH port on sea water? Did I not mention it?

Please just admit you are out of your depth

Deltagiant:
While Ikpeazu holds to this noble vision, It would be nice he engage in a wide consultation with SE stake holders at home and in diaspora. Igbos in diaspora are very keen about an Obuaku port and are ready to support. This is a capital intensive project of which a Build-Operate-Transfer arrangement could also be helpful.

Ikpeazu should also consult his kinsman at the estuary, King Dandeson, Jaja of Opobo. This port site is nearer to the ocean than PH. The oldest commercial sea route in Eastern region. King Jaja was actually arrested on this route.

That said, how do we ascertain that the clearing of the road was for port construction and not to facilitate tourism at the blue river?

The highlight is highly commendable!!!
The length of Imo river btwn obuaku and opobo should be the straits of Hormuz for Igboland... With millions in trade volume going on along this route, I don't think anybody would have need for "Lagos" at all

daretodiffer:
Welcome to Nigeria. I think the blame should also go to our students and higher institutions. They are in better positions to come out and challenge mo.ronic projects and educate the public.

Rivers can only handle a limited or specific vessels. Another wasteful projects: (

Igbo people to whom the project is being sited on their land ain't complaining,why are you so engrossed in anger-overdrive,over the issue.You should av' challenged Aragberascal of osunistan on why he is using a lean-scarce resource of Osun state to build a non viable,unworkable and at best,a useless osun airport?.mtchwww!.

omonnakoda:
Every sea port is Engineered and constructed so after construction that is what it may look like .

So if you like say it is on the Obuaku River that is your problem. The ships sail all the way to the port and sail out and there is no obstruction so by DEFINITION it is on the SEA

LAGOON
A stretch of salt water separated from the sea by a low sandbank or coral reef.

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/lagoon

FOR YOUR INFORMATION


MARINA IS ON THE SEA

you are trying to tell me that apapa shares boundary with Atlantic ocean? Lagos port is not on the shores of marina, its on the shores of apapa, at the other side of marina. Apapa doesn't have a boundary with Atlantic ocean, it has a boundary with lagoon, marina itself doesn't have a common boundary with Atlantic ocean. The places that are at the Atlantic shores are Victoria island, lekki, badagry and ajah. Marina and obalende are not directly on the shore of the Atlantic.

You don't even know Lagos

omonnakoda:
You weren't emphatic so you take it back? IT IS NOT A RIVER PORT?

Also ther is no parallel or nexus between that and this Obuaku Idea
Where did I express this so called view that ports are only built on Natural sea water.

Is the PH port on sea water? Did I not mention it?

Please just admit you are out of your depth

all am saying, The Obuaku port is viable and workable.That it is a "river" port,will not deprive it of any needed water current to take larger vessels.

EteEdoho:
Igbo people to whom the project is being sited on their land ain't complaining,why are you so engrossed in anger-overdrive,over the issue.You should av' challenged Aragberascal of osunistan on why he is using a lean-scarce resource of Osun state to build a non viable,unworkable and at best,a useless osun airport?.mtchwww!.

Lol! Don't mind them. See Omonnakoda crying over the same Obuaku project here:https://www.nairaland.com/2330306/functioning-seaport-economic-technological-revolution/1

These are the kind of people whose other people progress gives headache that ignorant Igbos want to share same country with. People that will go extra mile to undermine Igbo progress, rather than work on their own progress.
Watch all of them in that thread, including the one that now masquerades as mod on the politics section make all forms of suggestions in that thread including offering Ndiigbo the advice to use Ibaka seaport instead of attempt to build our own, all in attempt to ensure we don't bring the Obuaku dream into reality.

A sensible Igbo should have wondered, what are they( Yorubas) all afraid of?

betterABIAstate:
you are trying to tell me that apapa shares boundary with Atlantic ocean? Lagos port is not on the shores of marina, its on the shores of apapa, at the other side of marina. Apapa doesn't have a boundary with Atlantic ocean, it has a boundary with lagoon, marina itself doesn't have a common boundary with Atlantic ocean. The places that are at the Atlantic shores are Victoria island, lekki, badagry and ajah. Marina and obalende are not directly on the shore of the Atlantic.

You don't even know Lagos

Do you know Obiaku . See how proud you are of your knowledge(empty) of Lagos I showed you the map and show you again

That is MARINA GREEN and THe PORT AT APAPA RED TIN CAN ISLAND IS ORANGE


They ar both on the sea

cheruv:
The highlight is highly commendable!!!
The length of Imo river btwn obuaku and opobo should be the straits of Hormuz for Igboland... With millions in trade volume going on along this route, I don't think anybody would have need for "Lagos" at all

Ikpeazu is simply throwing publicity stunt. The cost of bringing that Obuaku port into reality will be enormous and cannot be achieved without a pan Igbo nationalistic alliance, something that Ndiigbo currently lack due to selfish interests of the elites.

T.A played same publicity stunt with that project: https://www.nairaland.com/1568347/hmm-abia-state-set-build
Now Okezie is doing his own, I am sure his successor will do the same.

omonnakoda:
Do you know Obiaku . See how proud you are of your knowledge(empty) of Lagos I showed you the map and show you again

That is MARINA GREEN and THe PORT AT APAPA RED


They ar both on the sea

you very silly, I personally went to obuaku (not obiaku) to take those pictures.

Talking about knowing Lagos, most Igbo folks know Lagos better than most Yorubas, you cannot sit in the comfort of your bedroom in osogbo or Ibadan and tell me about Lagos with maps. I do business in Lagos and I go to the port frequently.

omonnakoda:
Rational competition is very good but how rationa is this simple questions hopefully we can get some answers

What is he building
How much will it cost
Where is the money coming from
Who are the contractors
When will construction Finish

There should be that level of transparency
When leaders start to lie to their people and they believe them there is problem.
Our constitution is clear NO ONE can build a PORT without the FG (NPA) approval. I do not recall that information being in the public domain
SO whatever he is building I very much doubt it is a Port

Gradually you are heading to your destination,which is "kill" any port that may give Igbo people a leverage over lagos,thereby denying Lagos the revenue it always snatch from them. You started with psyching people into thinking that the project is non-viable and waste,so that they,maybe,placard their governor into dumping this laudable idea. That's why am on your case. Now that you know that i know what you know,you av' shown your true colour with this post. Telling who cares to listen inveriably,that FG won't allow it fly.

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omonnakoda:
That was a specialized and costly operation( they paidy an additional insurance premium in case the costly equipment went down) that operation by the way did not require a port at the time.There is a place for water transport in our economy which I champion but decisions should be rational and cost effective not emotive or egotistic. I do not see that as the most cost effective way of importing inputs for the Brewery in Anambra state e.g .

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betterABIAstate:
you are trying to tell me that apapa shares boundary with Atlantic ocean? Lagos port is not on the shores of marina, its on the shores of apapa, at the other side of marina. Apapa doesn't have a boundary with Atlantic ocean, it has a boundary with lagoon, marina itself doesn't have a common boundary with Atlantic ocean. The places that are at the Atlantic shores are Victoria island, lekki, badagry and ajah. Marina and obalende are not directly on the shore of the Atlantic.

You don't even know Lagos

Don't waste your time arguing frivolities.

The second largest port and second busiest in Europe is the port of Hamburg in Germany. Popularly known as the "German gateway to the world". It is 110 km to the sea, designated as " German seaport". And here you have time to argue with them over a distance of 23 nautical miles.
[url]. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_of_Hamburg[/url]

betterABIAstate:
you very silly, I personally went to obuaku (not obiaku) to take those pictures.

Talking about knowing Lagos, most Igbo folks know Lagos better than most Yorubas, you cannot sit in the comfort of your bedroom in osogbo or Ibadan and tell me about Lagos with maps. I do business in Lagos and I go to the port frequently.

But you are still illiterate because you do not know what a Lagoon is anyway I updated the photo for YOU

Tin can Island Orange

Marina Green

Apapa port Red

THEY ARE ALL ON THE SEA


What makes it SEA or LAGOON is not how it LOOKS TO YOU

There is a

The ships reach the port without any interference /barriers and that BY DEFINITION
IS IN THE SEA
It is not only when you have waves that you are in the sea.

betterABIAstate:
you very silly, I personally went to obuaku (not obiaku) to take those pictures.

Talking about knowing Lagos, most Igbo folks know Lagos better than most Yorubas, you cannot sit in the comfort of your bedroom in osogbo or Ibadan and tell me about Lagos with maps. I do business in Lagos and I go to the port frequently.

But you are still illiterate because you do not know what a Lagoon is anyway I updated the photo for YOU

Tin can Island Orange

Marina Green

Apapa port Red

THEY ARE ALL ON THE SEA


What makes it SEA or LAGOON is not how it LOOKS TO YOU

There is a definition

The ships reach the port without any interference /barriers and that BY DEFINITION
IS IN THE SEA
It is not only when you have waves that you are in the sea.

LAGOS LAGOON IS FOR A VERY LARGE PART CONTIGUOUS WITH THE SEA

so please stop splitting hairs

Omono okada onye egbuwara ishi


All these children of hate sha, always bitter about upliftment of Igbo land

EteEdoho:
If an entire geopolitical zone that is over 40million in population,with the highest number of classical business and investment oriented individuals does not have need for a seaport,i begin to wonder who will need it most. Must Igbo people depend on Lagos for port?.

Highest number?

Why do you liked to fool yourselves?

omonnakoda:
But you are still illiterate because you do not know what a Lagoon is anyway I updated the photo for YOU

Tin can Island Orange

Marina Green

Apapa port Red

THEY ARE ALL ON THE SEA


What makes it SEA or LAGOON is not how it LOOKS TO YOU

There is a definition

The ships reach the port without any interference /barriers and that BY DEFINITION
IS IN THE SEA
It is not only when you have waves that you are in the sea.

i give up on your ignorance. So we should also say Epe and ikorodu are costal towns, going by your thoery. Bros you weak ooo.

EteEdoho:
Gradually you are heading to your destination,which is "kill" any port that may give Igbo people a leverage over lagos,thereby denying Lagos the revenue it always snatch from them. You started with psyching people into thinking that the project is non-viable and waste,so that they,maybe,placard their governor into dumping this laudable idea. That's why am on your case. Now that you know that i know what you know,you av' shown your true colour with this post. Telling who cares to listen inveriably,that FG won't allow it fly.

I think that if the State government wants to develop docking berths along the river they should be allowed.I opposed any dredging because of the environmental impact. I think ports should be developed it those states that are contiguous with the sea such as Rivers , Bayelsa Cross River and Akwa Ibom so this is not about Lagos as the usual paranoid mindset suggests. Let ports be developed in those places where it is obvious and rational
The other danger for allowing any dredging is a sets off a precedent if you can dredge to Abia why not to Kogi and Benue and Kwara and Niger and even Niger Republic all of which the Niger flows through.

Let us eschew sentiment. If we need Seaports we can build one in Ogun,Ondo ,Bayelsa,Rivers Cross River and Akwa Ibom .
River ports yes but dredging no .That is where I stand!!

omonnakoda:
But you are still illiterate because you do not know what a Lagoon is anyway I updated the photo for YOU

Tin can Island Orange

Marina Green

Apapa port Red

THEY ARE ALL ON THE SEA


What makes it SEA or LAGOON is not how it LOOKS TO YOU

There is a definition

The ships reach the port without any interference /barriers and that BY DEFINITION
IS IN THE SEA
It is not only when you have waves that you are in the sea.

How does this project concerns you?
Is it your tax that will be used to build it?
Why stress up your fingers in something that has little or no benefit to you
Whether you like it or not we'll have a viable port and your fear of Lagos port being boycotted will be happening sooner than later.
*****
Yeye people that's how they influenced Akpabio to shelf Ibaka seaport

omonnakoda:
LAGOS LAGOON IS FOR A VERY LARGE PART CONTIGUOUS WITH THE SEA

so please stop splitting hairs

going by your mumu theory, ketu, ikorodu, Epe, bariga, makoko, akoka, yaba, ebute meta are also costal towns because they share boundary with lagoon. Your are very silly your theory

omonnakoda:
I think that if the State government wants to develop docking berths along the river they should be allowed.I opposed any dredging because of the environmental impact. I think ports should be developed it those states that are contiguous with the sea such as Rivers , Bayelsa Cross River and Akwa Ibom so this is not about Lagos as the usual paranoid mindset suggests. Let ports be developed in those places where it is obvious and rational
The other danger for allowing any dredging is a sets off a precedent if you can dredge to Abia why not to Kogi and Benue and Kwara and Niger and even Niger Republic all of which the Niger flows through.

Let us eschew sentiment. If we need Seaports we can build one in Ogun,Ondo ,Bayelsa,Rivers Cross River and Akwa Ibom .
River ports yes but dredging no .That is where I stand!!

Your stand is irrelevant.
To start with, Obuaku is on Aba and Imo rivers, Two Rivers that started from Igboland and flow into the Atlantic.

Obuaku will be dredged and there is nothing you can do about it. The only hindrance to the project as it stands, is Igbo nationalism and alliance.

Deltagiant:
Don't waste your time arguing frivolities.

The second largest port and second busiest in Europe is the port of Hamburg in Germany. Popularly known as the "German gateway to the world". It is 110 km to the sea, designated as " German seaport". And here you have time to argue with them over a distance of 23 nautical miles.
[url]. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_of_Hamburg[/url]

now I know why its hard for a Yoruba man to pass waec, imagine him saying apapa is a costal town.

betterABIAstate:
i give up on your ignorance. So we should also say Epe and ikorodu are costal towns, going by your thoery. Bros you weak ooo.

Ikorodu Coastal? Ikorodu and Epe are both on the Lagoon

They cannot be approached directly from the sea that is the distinction

But this is all a distraction the geography of a Lagoon is fundamentally different from a river .

The land areas whether you say they are Lagoon or sea makes no difference to access.There is no need for special dredging or eenginering the ships come and go unhindered.

Ships do no just sail up a river

omonnakoda:
Rational competition is very good but how rationa is this simple questions hopefully we can get some answers

What is he building
How much will it cost
Where is the money coming from
Who are the contractors
When will construction Finish

There should be that level of transparency
When leaders start to lie to their people and they believe them there is problem.
Our constitution is clear NO ONE can build a PORT without the FG (NPA) approval. I do not recall that information being in the public domain
SO whatever he is building I very much doubt it is a Port

and why are u so bothered abt sm1 else desicion to have a port? may b u shud just mind ur f..king buisness and wait until ders public info abt d projecj either gud or bad.ppl and dia itk sha !

Marcelini:
Your stand is irrelevant.
To start with, Obuaku is on Aba and Imo rivers, Two Rivers that started from Igboland and flow into the Atlantic.

Obuaku will be dredged and there is nothing you can do about it. The only hindrance to the project as it stands, is Igbo nationalism and alliance.

Go and start dredging na

omonnakoda:
Ikorodu Coastal? Ikorodu and Epe are both on the Lagoon

They cannot be approached directly from the sea that is the distinction

But this is all a distraction the geography of a Lagoon is fundamentally different from a river .

The land areas whether you say they are Lagoon or sea makes no difference to access.There is no need for special dredging or eenginering the ships come and go unhindered.

Ships do no just sail up a river

so apapa can be accessed directly from the sea? You see why your brothers will continue to fail waec.

nwadiuko1:
you sound so pained and unhappy about this development

dont reply dat £unt