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zainabxel:
you are totally wrong, Islam has various sects and denominations, they hate each other more than the christians do, they dont pray in each others mosques and even bomb each others mosques, the sunni consider the shia kafir, and the shia consider the sunni likewise, do you know how the amadiyya muslims are treated by other muslims? in some muslim countries they've been banned from calling themselves muslims or calling their places of worship mosques, and as for the spread of Islam, the Jihad was a key ingredient in the spread of Islam, i.e they conquer and convert you, and dont forget their birth rate, muslims are not concerned about birth control, also in many muslim countries, converting from Islam(aposthesy) is purnishable by death, whereas in most non muslim countries, you can convert to any religion anytime you like, Nd do you know the billions of petrol dollars the saudi gov't spends every year for the spread of Islam?

Zenlife:
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Wrongful, fraudulent and deceptive tithe money collection.
An old testament practise allowed for Levite priests only, even then, not for all priests. No levite priests exist today. And when tithing was practised, tne bible instruction was to bring the yeilds from the fields etc to the storehouse and upon getting there, you and your family while glorifying God, eat that which you brought and share with the hungry and less priviledged. No where in the bible that instructs money tithing of any kind by the people.

Abraham in the bible tithed 10% once from the spoils of war to the king, upon rescuing his cousin. The other 90% he gave away, not keeping any for himself.

I challenge any christian preacher today to show in the bible where it says tithing can be collected by any priest who wasn't a levite. No levites exist today. In addition show the people, where the bible says preacher man/ woman can collect money as tithes. Today these shameless and fraudulent priests mostly collect money, some now even have POS equipments in church. In the name of God I condemn, banish and curse all tithe collecting pastors and general overseers. They are all frauds. And for the gullible that pay, you are foolish.

The money extorted from you and your silly brain-washed mind that makes you think you are giving it to God needs cleansing and a wake-up from slumber call. What you give you only give to man, not God. He, God will never have need or use of a kobo or Naira from you.

On your way to church you pass by the hungry and needy, ignore them or give a token at best and you give your money to the 'man of God fraud'... A truly 'deceptive, fraudulent man of evil'. Do you know or wonder how many so-called christians and clerics passed by for months the child left and abandoned to die who was rescued by the white woman, the vibrant blessed boy now called Hope? Daily you ignore and pass God (in many disguises) by to go serve the disguised devil in the so-called 'house of God'. Shameful unpallatable ignorance. All tithe collectors do not represent God. They are all from A-Z frauds.

How will the church be run and managed without tihes?
The church set-up as it is especially today, is all wrong from take-off. Why so many denominations? why so many churches? Or why so many 'Jesus' if you will? Capitalistic Money extortion, greed and fraud.
If a preacher truly has the calling, God the caller will provide a way to run and manage the house of worship. Where in the bible did it say Jesus or His disciples collected a dime from anybody ehn?

Hey its your money, if you elect to be extorted, knock yourself out. Whatever blessing from God you seem to get as translated in your mind is not because you gave a dime to God in church. He has no use of your money and needs it not to bless whom He chooses to.

I restate... ALL TITHE COLLECTING SO-CALLED PREACHERS, CHURCHES ARE ALL THIEVES AND FRAUDS!

oduastates:
A Christian crusader jihadist post right there.
Such a hypocritical post.
You should have added

11 christains should not use computers and mobile phones because the inventors are gays , atheist and children of satan.

That idea that theirs are religions better than others even though at their core, they are backward and have not yet attained the level the Ifa religion attained 1000 years ago.
The Yoruba religion has an humanist core . The reason why it is spreading like wildfire amongst the enlighten all over the world .
You refer to traditional religions as paganism and made mention of sacrifices .
What exactly are those turkey , cocks and goats killed during Christmas and Easter if not the celebration of paganism ? Even the bible and Koran stole most of their myths , stories and teachings from ancient Egyptian pagan beliefs
They are not original.

Yoruba traditional religion of live and let others die. Happy you admitted this when comparing with sacrifices made in the scriptures. The difference in Christ is that Jesus, the sinless son of God is the perfect sacrifice. All you need do is believe as the sacrifice in your religion is never ending. Study the Bible for insight.
Plant sacrifice?
Talking about blood and human misery , it will take a million years for the so called pagans to match the quantity of blood shed by you Abrahamic( Islam and Christainity ) adherents.
I am only talking about the blood shed in you r holy books here. Not talking about those not there.
I will take the pagans who express my culture , values and traditions over confused folks anytime .
Yorubas Pagans like these practicing the yoruba religion in the purest form and who will form a major part of the future Yoruba empire.

TruthHurts1:
You should be ashamed as a muslim to make such an admission. Afterall the koran warned you not to make friends with Jews and Christians:

Quran (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."

GloryIsaac:
Thanks for the info.. what if I choose to convert, which denomination would I belong too? or aren't there nondenominational Muslims?

bashsani:
it seems you will never understand, you are not just a problem to Mankind but also to your self,look within yourself and strive to make yourself a better christian

TruthHurts1:
The worst Christian is a better human being than the best MUMUslim.

femi4:
9 Peter said to her, “How could you conspire to test the Spirit of the Lord? Listen! The feet of the men who buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out also.”

10 At that moment she fell down at his feet and died. Then the young men came in and, finding her dead, carried her out and buried her beside her husband. 11 Great fear seized the whole church and all who heard about these events.

binsanni:
End time relligion. Am proud being a muslim

TruthHurts1:
The worst Christian is a better human being than the best MUMUslim.

dragonking2:
Dont mind them, a religion that does not tolerate criticism. Even on nairaland here, they dont allow Christians to comment on their thread, but see them flocking here like bees posting quran citations. Mtchhhew

dragonking2:
Dont mind them, a religion that does not tolerate criticism. Even on nairaland here, they dont allow Christians to comment on their thread, but see them flocking here like bees posting quran citations. Mtchhhew

bashsani:
so which are you,best or worst christian

TruthHurts1:
Either way, I'm better than you will ever be.

Savigne:
You didnt answer the question...
I said a verse where "Holy ghost fire" was used to deal with enemies...

femi4:
What's your definition of enemies?

Seems you lack basic scripture interpretation

I'll help you sha:

11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.



17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God;

18 praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, being watchful to this end with all perseverance and supplication for all the saints

Ephesians 6:11-12, 17-18

Savigne:
And with all your "scriptural" interpretation you couldnt pick out single verse where christians were directed to use "holy ghost" fire to destroy their enemies.
Pls dont even bother replying....

Zenlife:
13. Noise Pollution Nuisance And Disturbance of the Peace.

Truly said...
Empty barrels do make loud noise.
The emptier... The noisier.

Apparently todays churches especially pente'costliests' worship a DEAF GOD. or shun teachings of Matthew 6:6 etc on how to pray. What really is the essence of night vigils? Illicit practices under the cover of darkness by these church folks? Must it be done? especially the zoo-like manner it is done? How has it positively contributed to the enlightenment and uplifting of the social, economic, political, safety or religious atmosphere of the nation? Besides negatively disturbing the peace of neighbors at the time God has ordained for them to sleep.

A totally misguided, irresponsible, deplorable practise.
So much for love thy neighbor...but meanwhile enjoy this noise all night. Maybe when they have provoked enough dudes who lose it and start getting wacked by disgruntled folks as a response to this most unholy indulgence, they will chill.

Those that indulge in this hullabaloo don't need God, they need psychological and psychiatric evaluations, assessments and treatments for schizophrenia, multiple personality disorder, obstructive and obsessive compulsory disorder, lunacy, etc.

Despicable, Nauseating, Hypertension Inducing Nonsensical Rubbish.

femi4:
Lolz, I can see that you are still very young. Don't give up on yourself.
One day, you will come to the knowledge of the truth

zainabxel:
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well there are muslims that dont give a hoot about denominations, but sunni is the largest in the world and predominant in nigeria, but the only muslim sect I like is the Ahmadiyya, Ahmadiyya adherents believe that Ahmad appeared in the likeness of Jesus, to end religious wars, condemn bloodshed and reinstitute morality, justice, and peace. They believe that upon divine guidance he divested Islam of fanatical and innovative beliefs and practices by championing what is, in their view, Islam’s true and essential teachings as practised by Muhammad and the early Islamic community.Thus, Ahmadis view themselves as leading the revival and peaceful propagation of Islam. but don't go anywhere near wahabism/salafism, the one that Saudi is championing through sunn islam......but if you really want to leave christianity, just try Buddhism or agnosticism, and you'll open your mind to reason and logic, instead of these blood shedding World Religions

hungryboy:
I still remember working for one contractor like that were dey too like quote Bible for every situation, that man paid us the worst wage we have ever earned, and he treated us badly too,
Since that day, i no dey judge human being again based on how many Bible or Quoran him carry for him Motor, or his ability to quote bible verses or recite the Quoran off hand,

NJPot:
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2000 years ago, a new way of life was born. A way of agape love, simplicity, righteousness and truth. A way of imitating Jesus Christ who suffered to redeem mankind from the power of death. A way of life introduced to us by unselfish missionaries from Europe. This way of life which is called Christianity today is under treat in Nigeria. It is gradually losing it’s value and taste as a result of some negative attitudes of the believers. Let me quickly identify 10 ways Nigerian Christians are killing Christianity but don’t know.

1. False Prophesy: Simply put, any prophesy that did not eventually come to pass is a false prophesy. Many Christian leaders in the country are fond of making predictions out of their own imaginations or dreams claiming they were revelations from God. Failure of such prophesies makes caricature of Christianity.

2. Hypocrisy: This is the worst killer. Majority of Nigerian Christians are hypocrites. Some pastors, reverend fathers, bishops and so on give sound preaching but don’t live by their words. They do opposite of what they preach. Also, our Christian politicians are not Christ-like in their leadership. How can a Christian governor owe workers and pensioners for over six months even after the federal government has released bailout funds. They still go to church on Sundays to raise their hands up in praise and worship. Church ceiling fan will cut off such hands one day.

3. Mixing Christianity with paganism: Reading Zodiac signs, osu caste system, animal and human sacrifices and other superstitious practices are still rampant despite the numerous churches in the nooks and crannies of the country. Some Christians would even go to any length to defend such practices in the name of preserving their culture and tradition. What about Christians including pastors who patronize native doctors? Some use charms to perform signs and wonders and to win souls for their churches. Some belong to occult societies and still go to church. It is very common in Nigeria to see someone who is both a member of a Christian denomination and Ogboni confraternity or any other evil cult. This is destroying the Christian faith.

4. 'Men of God' milking their shepherds while living ostentatiously: Our pastors are cruising expensive cars, acquiring private jets and living in multimillion naira mansions while majority of their followers live in poverty. No wonder they lay too much emphasis on paying of tithes and seed sowing. They lick the asses of corrupt politicians instead of telling them the truth point-blank. This lifestyle is gradually killing the credibility of the Christian faith.
5. Fornication receiving little or no condemnation compared to other sexual sins: Sometimes I wonder if gays and lesbians will go to a hotter part of hell fire than fornicators and adulterers. Boyfriend and girlfriend relationship is on the increase among the Christian youths. Baby mamas are now celebrated. Pre-marital sex is no longer viewed as a taboo. It is very common to hear of a Christian thanking God for delivering him from the spirit of masturbation while the person is still a fornicator. This is self-deception and a distortion of Christianity which strictly condemns all sexual immoralities.

6. Praying and wishing evil for their enemies: Christ, who Christians claim to follow, taught them to love and pray for their enemies. On the contrary, Nigerian Christians hate and pray for the death of their enemies. “Die by fire”, “holy ghost fire them” and so on are common prayers in many churches today. Judging our enemies and wishing them dead is fake Christianity.

7. Lack of charity: When last as a Christian did you help the poor or someone in need without looking for something in return? Many Christians show less concern for the less privileged. They show more interest in tithing and seed sowing for their progress forgetting that agape love is the most important thing in the Christian faith.

8. Associating God with prosperity: Nowadays, if you are rich, it means that God is with you. Poverty is seen as a curse. Most churches now preach prosperity more than salvation. The rich are being celebrated as those favoured by God. This stupid mentality promotes corruption and is gradually killing Christianity in our country.

9 Weird church adverts and programs: Just in the name of attracting members, many churches have devised somewhat weird means of seducing people to their church services. Some use popular celebrities to draw crowds to their churches. For instance, of what spiritual value is it to feature Terry G, Mama G, Wizkid, I Go Dye and so on in a Christian program? Some churches also use funny posters and attractive themes to lure people to their church. I have seen church posters with themes like ‘miracle extravaganza’, ‘prison break’, ‘auntie wetin I do you’, ‘who tie the goat’ and so on. This makes Christianity look like a joke.

10. Denominations fighting one another: Some Christian denominations believe that they are the genuine Christians and members of other Christian denominations would all go to hell. They fight one another with hate words and sometimes the fight goes physical. Instead of thinking of ways to dialogue and unite, more Christian denominations are being created. Sometimes, I begin to wonder if there are more than one Jesus Christ.

damocool:
Tell us where JESUS condemned tithing in the new testament bro..

Zenlife:
New testament is the new law.
Tithing is in ihe old testament, The old law and only for Levite priests. There are no levite peiests today. Tell and show us where Jesus encouraged, practised and collected tithes, bro.

damocool:
What do you have to say abt Matthew 23 vs 23