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Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by egobetatoday: 11:39am On Mar 08, 2016
Agubushmenyo:
Thanks a lot...

But look at my post critically and you see where I wrote "In every Religion we have Idiots"

Yinsua and his supporters are amongst the above listed!!
ok.
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by kumakunta: 11:40am On Mar 08, 2016
egobetatoday:
Kumakunta, it looks like you have great knowledge of he bible and you are about to show us some truth. kindly quickly go thru the bible from Genesis to Revelation and show us this great truth- that Mary was 12yrs when she gave birth to Jesus. Just tell me e.g Malachi 35 :2 - 6 'it says....'. I'm waiting.
There are so many things that's not in the bible but which you guys practice.eg
Jesus saying 'I am God worship me'
Tithe
Going to church on sunday.
Christmas being 25 of December etc
Therefore you shouldn't expect Mary's age of betrothal to Joseph to be included.
Jesus died 33 yrs,mary died 59 and we know Mary didn't die immediately Jesus left. She lived for more than a decade. So do the calculations yourself.
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by erusen: 11:46am On Mar 08, 2016
egobetatoday:
Kumakunta, it looks like you have great knowledge of he bible and you are about to show us some truth. kindly quickly go thru the bible from Genesis to Revelation and show us this great truth- that Mary was 12yrs when she gave birth to Jesus. Just tell me e.g Malachi 35 :2 - 6 'it says....'. I'm waiting.
seriously am waiting
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by luke10: 11:47am On Mar 08, 2016
Integrityfarms:
Who ever loves or supports this treatment given to Ese will soon have a taste of what the pains of abduction is!
I pity this marriage of a forceful united Nigeria
That is wny am praying every hour that this unty should collapse. Any man, woman who still influence this unity, any body who still do those things that encourage unity will never go well. I say tufiakwa to all such ones.
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by luke10: 11:49am On Mar 08, 2016
kumakunta:
There are so many things that's not in the bible but which you guys practice.eg
Jesus saying 'I am God worship me'
Tithe
Going to church on sunday.
Christmas being 25 of December etc
Therefore you shouldn't expect Mary's age of betrothal to Joseph to be included.
Jesus died 33 yrs,mary died 59 and we know Mary didn't die immediately Jesus left. She lived for more than a decade. So do the calculations yourself.
who is this dust?
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by FreeBoss: 11:50am On Mar 08, 2016
Agubushmenyo:
"The Religion that is perfect, let them be the first to cast a stone"
correction. "the religion" should read "the person." meanwhile xtianity is a perfect religion. it is some of them that are judas who are giving xtianity a bad name.
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by kumakunta: 11:51am On Mar 08, 2016
luke10:
who is this dust?
Sup Luke? You have anything to add to the discourse?
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by Nobody: 11:53am On Mar 08, 2016
FreeBoss:
correction. "the religion" should read "the person." meanwhile xtianity is a perfect religion. it is some of them that are judas who is it a bad name.
Thanks bro..

The religion that have perfect set of individuals!!
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by erusen: 11:53am On Mar 08, 2016
kumakunta:
There are so many things that's not in the bible but which you guys practice.eg
Jesus saying 'I am God worship me'
Tithe
Going to church on sunday.
Christmas being 25 of December etc
Therefore you shouldn't expect Mary's age of betrothal to Joseph to be included.
Jesus died 33 yrs,mary died 59 and we know Mary didn't die immediately Jesus left. She lived for more than a decade. So do the calculations yourself.
according to your Quran right,so marayam was married off as a child?the church is the first day if the week or is not? if it
is well just so the early church attended service at the first day of the week,Jesus said am "I the the way the true and the light"he is the mediator between us and God stop reading the bible from your Quranic mindset you hear.so the bible that was written before Mohammed was born is not correct?
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by kumakunta: 11:58am On Mar 08, 2016
erusen:
according to your Quran right,so marayam was married off as a child?the church is the first day if the week or is not? if it
is well just so the early church attended service at the first day of the week,Jesus said am "I the the way the true and the light"he is the mediator between us and God stop reading the bible from your Quranic mindset you hear.so the bible that was written before Mohammed was born is not correct?
You just giving me stories..

I wonder who was shining light to the world of Abraham,Noah,Moses,Joshua,Joseph before the coming of Christ.

And yes his the light and the way,he came to show his people the way and also light up their world,just as God called Noah to also show his people the way and shine them light.

Not with the numerous corrections and editing done inside the bible. Do you even know how the bible came into existence?
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by NgwaManNaija4LF(m): 12:06pm On Mar 08, 2016
Honourable elders Soyinka and Falana, my respect! Men like this is what we need in our dear country, today I can declare that Yorubas are not cowards, for even coming hard on their own it proves their mindset which is worthy to emulate, I'm a Nigerian make no mistake about it,every child should be respected according to our law or you move to Tehran simple, let's stop this hypocrisy and face the rightful truth. Call evil-evil and fear no man.

I'm "Soyinfalanian" God bless Nigeria.
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by glossy6(f): 12:10pm On Mar 08, 2016
kumakunta:
In other words, Baby Factory,child prostitution,Child rape, Huma Ritual,Incest, Kidnapping and militancy coming from the south also finds expression in their religion. You very brilliant.
As if Islam is free from what you listed above.

You marry your first cousins that's why your people suffer from uncountable diseases.

Human rituals are your preoccupations. Ask the numerous alhajis how they made their money.

Child rape? Your girls are down with fistula, that is enough evidence.

Militancy ..Boko Haram is from the north lest I forget.

Need I mention more? Religious bigots

the bottom line

Christians condemn such acts when they are found among us.

But the Muslims condone and uphold them using religion as a cover up
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by egobetatoday: 12:11pm On Mar 08, 2016
kumakunta:
There are so many things that's not in the bible but which you guys practice.eg
Jesus saying 'I am God worship me'
Tithe
Going to church on sunday.
Christmas being 25 of December etc
Therefore you shouldn't expect Mary's age of betrothal to Joseph to be included.
Jesus died 33 yrs,mary died 59 and we know Mary didn't die immediately Jesus left. She lived for more than a decade. So do the calculations yourself.
i dont like the way this discussion is going now. was hoping you'll give me the bible verse so that i will quickly check and take decision about my faith since it will mean that Joseph was a pedophile. Now I am disappointed! well, will advise that if you must argue on anything, not only religion, have your facts intact. it helps your argument.
Yes, there are so many things not in the bible which we practice (As long as its not evil, and doesnt affect any human being or terminate someone's life. life is too precious) e.g 'shitting' in the toilet instead of doing shot put, cooking your food with gas...just joking lol. christians respect culture as long as u dont have to kill or do evil. Its not an issue if you dont celebrate christmas or u do. its not also important if u celebrate xmas on the 1st of dec or 25th. christianity is not after such trivial issues and no body will be judged by the day he celebrated xmas or not!
if marry's age was important it would have been mentioned. if it wasnt mentioned , dont you think you are misinforming people with
speculations which u cannot prove? like i said earlier, it doesnt help your argument.
Before i go into a futile attempt to calculate 59 - 33, kindly quickly read through the bible and tell me e.g Ezekiel 12:5-6 where the age of Mary was recorded as 59 at the time of death. *let me quickly get my calculator*
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by luke10: 12:15pm On Mar 08, 2016
Integrityfarms:
Who ever loves or supports this treatment given to Ese will soon have a taste of what the pains of abduction is!
I pity this marriage of a forceful united Nigeria
That is why am praying every hour that this unty should collapse. Any man, woman who still influence this unity, any body who still do those things that encourage unity will never go well. I say tufiakwa to all such ones.
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by erusen: 12:17pm On Mar 08, 2016
kumakunta:
You just giving me stories..

I wonder who was shining light to the world of Abraham,Noah,Moses,Joshua,Joseph before the coming of Christ.

And yes his the light and the way,he came to show his people the way and light up their world,just as God called Noah to also show his people the way and shine them light.
did any of those men died for the sins of mankind?Noah brought light yet few years after he died people arose again to start their sins afresh then moses brought the mosaic laws did it stop the children of isreal from sacrificing their children to Baal?Joshua a conqueror is now a light bringer ?your wonder who was the shining light of the world before jesus?so these prophets are your shining light in Islam?why did these prophet are prophesy about Jesus?Noah who built an ark which law did he make which parable did he institunalized?8
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by glossy6(f): 12:23pm On Mar 08, 2016
luke10:
who is this dust?
1m likes
He is a malformed sperm hence he is reasoning upside down.
A candidate for A.ro
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by musicwriter(m): 12:24pm On Mar 08, 2016
Well, if they suggest their religion supports pedophilia, it becomes clear something is wrong with such a religion.

It's a mockery of the Nigerian state when they suggest their religion is superior to the Nigerian constitution. This's why people like Sani Yerima should be in jail, cause that man back in the days principally brought this radical islamic consciousness that birthed boko haram and all sorts of anarchy in the name of religion.
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by kumakunta: 12:25pm On Mar 08, 2016
erusen:
did any of those men died for the sins of mankind?Noah brought light yet few years after he died people arose again to start their sins afresh then moses brought the mosaic laws did it stop the children of isreal from sacrificing their children to Baal?Joshua a conqueror is now a light bringer ?your wonder who was the shining light of the world before jesus?so these prophets are your shining light in Islam?why did these prophet are prophesy about Jesus?Noah who built an ark which law did he make which parable did he institunalized?8
Noah only did what God asked of him..To warn his people,make them turn away from their sins,make them know there's forgiveness from God if ther repent because his the all-forgiven and believe in one God. That was the message all prophets came on earth to deliver.
Please are there still no sins after Jesus Left?
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by glossy6(f): 12:27pm On Mar 08, 2016
erusen:
Jesus was 33 when he died the bible didn't record marys death age because she was irrelevant and her purpose has be fulfilled,now you made claims give yuor so called phedophllic activity in marys child bible?is people like you that makes me dislike Muslims,what this this man said is simple,if a criminal is caught in the south he is punish by the Nigerian law not by his religious law,why must the same be done in the north.did he condemn your religion?he simply said no religion is bigger than the constitution
Don't bother yourself. He wants to justify Mohammed's marriage to 9yr old Aisha and Yunusa's abominable acts as well as justify Islamic depraved thinking
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by gbens2000(m): 12:28pm On Mar 08, 2016
idee91:
What yinusa did was wrong and criminal. But when you make the issue sound like its the custom of muslims, then uv got it all wrong. Elephantic bigots everywhere on nairaland
its their costume it depends on wat part of the country u are from,that will depend on the way u want to see it,AV lived in the north all my live,my gee it's their way.
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by erusen: 12:31pm On Mar 08, 2016
kumakunta:
Noah only did what God asked of him..To warn his people,make them turn away from their sins,make them know there's forgiveness from God if ther repent because his the all-forgiven and believe in one God. That was the message all prophets came on earth to deliver.
Please are there still no sins after Jesus Left?
you miss the point didn't you,why did all this prophets prophesy about Jesus?which of these prophet died for the sins of mankind,did Jesus teach the law of moses?didn't he bring the new covenant in the new testament(please kindly understand that in a Christian website)then I can continue
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by gbens2000(m): 12:32pm On Mar 08, 2016
idee91:
And she is doing fine in life..... Oooops, i almost 4got she's even ur 1st lady
no one is disputing that am proud of her as my First Lady,but the reality is that it's their way there is nothing new,this should not be perceived as a religious matter wat is against the law shoul be punished no matter who.
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by gbens2000(m): 12:34pm On Mar 08, 2016
sexyexcalibur:
lol.. dont misquote Jesus please....


and Christianity is not a religion....

its a relationship with Christ....
gbam.
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by kumakunta: 12:35pm On Mar 08, 2016
egobetatoday:
i dont like the way this discussion is going now. was hoping you'll give me the bible verse so that i will quickly check and take decision about my faith since it will mean that Joseph was a pedophile. Now I am disappointed! well, will advise that if you must argue on anything, not only religion, have your facts intact. it helps your argument.
Yes, there are so many things not in the bible which we practice (As long as its not evil, and doesnt affect any human being or terminate someone's life. life is too precious) e.g 'shitting' in the toilet instead of doing shot put, cooking your food with gas...just joking lol. christians respect culture as long as u dont have to kill or do evil. Its not an issue if you dont celebrate christmas or u do. its not also important if u celebrate xmas on the 1st of dec or 25th. christianity is not after such trivial issues and no body will be judged by the day he celebrated xmas or not!
if marry's age was important it would have been mentioned. if it wasnt mentioned , dont you think you are misinforming people with
speculations which u cannot prove? like i said earlier, it doesnt help your argument.
Before i go into a futile attempt to calculate 59 - 33, kindly quickly read through the bible and tell me e.g Ezekiel 12:5-6 where the age of Mary was recorded as 59 at the time of death. *let me quickly get my calculator*
If you accord relevance to just what you see in the bible,then tithe isn't relevant,worshiping of Jesus isn't relevant because Jesus never called himself God or asked people to worship him.
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by CioAngels(f): 12:35pm On Mar 08, 2016
About children being denied childhood. it is not happening only in the north but other places in Nigeria. Llearn'nt there are places in delta state, ukwuai in ndokwa west lg that it has been happening for a long till date. Precisely, in a place they say called abbi, ezionum and other villages around them.
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by egobetatoday: 12:36pm On Mar 08, 2016
kumakunta:
Mr Man,am not in support of Muslims committing crime,never in my life will i..But it seems common sense has eroded most christians on this forum. They are so sharp in bringing Islam to whatever form of crime being carried out in the north.

When I stand in a religious argument,i don't stand for the actor of the crime but for his Religion..His religion should be separated from whatever crime commited.
So in a case where we find christians trying to point out Islam by bringing in silly examples,we the muslims are also bound to bring in similar occurrence from your faith to buttress our points.

It's better you talk to your brothers to stop relating any crime commited by a muslim or sumone with muslim name with Islam. By that we can all deal with our problems.
We won't allow you christians term any criminal christian as being fake or endtime while you take charge of crimes commited by Muslims.
Most of your people are mischief makers,we know them and we ready for them.

The Quran and Islam is never in support of abduction or forceful marriage,and I will never support yunusa or any other muslim that has committed such anti-islamic act.
Christianity and Islam aside,no right thinking man/woman should also commit crime.

So tell me,did you read anywhere that prophet Muhamed (Pbuh) abducted and forcefully convert a girl? The Muric where against the crime commited by Yunusa,they even came up with Quranic verses to show it.
The southern muslims are quickly seperated from the northerners. Do you know why? Because they are not as hostile as the northerners towards christians. e.g religious riots. You may want to argue for them but thats the truth. i was severally stoned in kano as a corper for being a christian with parents of the children looking and laughing. what impression do you think i will have of islam?
Do you know that the northerners where happy when Boko haram started bombing churches until they started bombing mosques too? dont know if you are a northerner but thats what we know and it didnt help islam's image. what about this issue of Ese and yunusa. Read thru all the threads, you will be surprised at comments like 'there is nothing wrong in what yunusa did'; 'thank God Ese has been taken from buruku drinking men'. What impression do you think people will have of islam with such comments? only few Muslims condemned the act.
We say end times when pastors/christians do evil because Jesus already FOREWARNED US that in the END TIMES people will be lovers of them selves and listed other evils they will do in the end time. we are not supporting the evil rather reminding ourselves of what has been said. i will personally have questioned my faith in the bible if some Christian/pastors dont do the evils they do because it means Jesus prophesized something that never happened. i hope you understand what i mean?
You said the Muric where against the crime commited by Yunusa,they even came up with Quranic verses to show it? they were not against the crime. i will paraphrase what they said for you

' Soyinka disagreed with a professor of Islamic Eschatology and Director of Muslim Rights Concern (MURIC),
Ishaq Akintola, WHO CLAIMED THAT ISLAM HAS NO AGE BARRIER IN MARRIAGE'.
Akintola is simply saying muslims can marry a 3 yr old girl. like i said in the earlier post, the words muslims use tell us if they are for or against the crime. Most are being sympathetic towards yunusa and thats why people insult islam. People married early in the olden days. dont see why he should insist that its not a crime as at today considering the constitution of nigeria. Is yunusa not a nigerian? well, Prof Akintola did the most damage to your religion by saying such.
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by kumakunta: 12:39pm On Mar 08, 2016
erusen:
you miss the point didn't you,why did all this prophets prophesy about Jesus?which of these prophet died for the sins of mankind,did Jesus teach the law of moses?didn't he bring the new covenant in the new testament(please kindly understand that in a Christian website)then I can continue
Pls what prophesy did they make about Jesus?
And whose sin did Jesus died for? Pls don't generalize. He died for you christians, Fine.

Or who died for the sins of those that repented before the coming of christ?
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by gbens2000(m): 12:39pm On Mar 08, 2016
AnanseK:
I the lagos case of children abduction , all the abductors were Christian including one Pastor. Yunusa who eloped with Ese is not an imam but all blame his religion for the crime. Can we now safely say that Christianity is the cause of the girls abduction? The religion was fully represented by a supervising Pastor. It was in fact a religious conspiracy that's why only a Muslim police officer could mobilize and lead a successful rescue team. You should ask God to help you against your corrupt religion.u typed confused pls wat is the motive in the cases u ave stated above.think well and see things in the ryt way pls don't be biased and blinded by prejudice.
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by erusen: 12:39pm On Mar 08, 2016
musicwriter:
Well, if they suggest their religion supports pedophilia, it becomes clear something is wrong with such a religion.

It's a mockery of the Nigerian state when they suggest their religion is superior to the Nigerian constitution. This's why people like Sani Yerima should be in jail, cause that man back in the days principally brought this radical islamic consciousness that birthed boko haram and all sorts of anarchy in the name of religion.
hey u told to check your site latter for the story of the oba of Benin that was never told,please kindly drop the link
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by gbens2000(m): 12:44pm On Mar 08, 2016
AnanseK:
Is it the Islamic community that provides a building and assembles young hooligan boys to rape girls as young as 14 and fifteen until they are pregnant only for the babies to be sold as happens in Owerri and Aba? Baby factories are Christian and majority of pastors are rapists.
my dear they deserve to be punished by law,this is evil cause the motive and act is evil same way the senator and yunusa should be punished.
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by kumakunta: 12:45pm On Mar 08, 2016
glossy6:
As if Islam is free from what you listed above.

You marry your first cousins that's why your people suffer from uncountable diseases.

Human rituals are your preoccupations. Ask the numerous alhajis how they made their money.

Child rape? Your girls are down with fistula, that is enough evidence.

Militancy ..Boko Haram is from the north lest I forget.

Need I mention more? Religious bigots

the bottom line

Christians condemn such acts when they are found among us.

But the Muslims condone and uphold them using religion as a cover up
Please how do you condemn them? By calling them fake,rejecting them as being part of christians?

The Muric has come out to condemn the act of Yunusa,so many Islamic scholars in the north also came out to condemn BH terrorism. But do they get the shield needed from the government? NO. Or haven't you heard of Islamic scholars killed and mosques bombed due to their preaching against BH?

You christians are good at separating crimes commited by your members from your religion but quickly call out Islam when same is being done by a muslim.. so when we argue,we don't argue for the actor,we argue for Islam.
What makes it seem as if we supporting the actor is because we tend to bring out similar crime committed by a christian of which your people quickly act in denial.
Re: Soyinka And Falana React To Ese's Abduction by egobetatoday: 12:56pm On Mar 08, 2016
kumakunta:
If you accord relevance to just what you see in the bible,then tithe isn't relevant,worshiping of Jesus isn't relevant because Jesus never called himself God or asked people to worship him.
yes, tithe isnt relevant. Even though i pay my tithe, not under compulsion but because i want to.
we dont worship Jesus. we worship God, jesus is the 2nd person of the trinity, being one with God.
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