realmindz:

who told those who pay tithes are more blessed?
The holy scammers will preach "The blessings may not come back to you in form of money but in other means" They say this so u won't question why you are getting poorer despite remitting a 10%....

Jst take a look at tithing, a very funny activity of mere mortals, earn income, then carry calculator to calculate 10%, deduct the funds, take it to bank or do Internet banking transfer or pay cash in church....All these, nothing connected to the spiritual...They are all man made acitivties

topdee:


You didn't answer my question. Did HE know Man was going to eat the forbidden fruit beforehand? Why even create a very cunning creature, what's the point?
HE is omniscient, Man taking from the proposed forbidden fruit was inevitable, God knows every Man's tomorrow, irrespective of how Man acts, meaning whatever we'll do tomorrow God already knows. Am I right?
Why will you say Man was made to live forever, when THE CREATOR already knew what Man will end up doing, before he created Man.

plaetton:
Because God has nothing to show for all the money paid to him.
I mean, look at the universe, void and cold, no infrastructure, no easy way to get from galaxy A to galaxy B.

We need a probe of finances of the universe.

realmindz:

are u high on cheap weed
40 “Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

How does this passage support the claim that we should pay 10% to pastors...?
cheerful giving to people in need is what the passage was saying...
pls say another one

realmindz:

eve had no bible nor history to revert to, neither did the foolish virgins....
All I've asked is to read from the bible which christianity belief is based and seek the truth from it.
Listening to your pastors won't help u...but wait, what's the title pastor derived from, who qualified them as pastors or men of God..from the last time I checked, we are all children of God with same grace in the presence of God....Oyedepo and a begger on the streets both ve the grace to be called children of God, so tell me why I sud send my 10% to my brother in Christ since we are both children of Christ?

realmindz:

are u high on cheap weed
40 “Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

How does this passage support the claim that we should pay 10% to pastors...?
cheerful giving to people in need is what the passage was saying...
pls say another one

damocool:

Eve never had a bible but God gave her instructions to follow but she felt intelligent enough to reason for herself. Wise and foolish virgins never had Bible but they got set of instructions to they ought to lived by(written or preached to them) , consecration and obedience to these instructions differentiate the both groups..as I said earlier, it takes the spirit and grace of God to obey his words without addition and subtraction.. Funny enough, you asked where pastors surfaced from., Jeremiah 3:15 And I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding. Ephesians 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; Jesus neither condemned paying tithe too..

S247:
I think u need alot of enlightenment on that.To save time check this out.(Malachi 3 v 8- 12)

S247:
I think u need alot of enlightenment on that.To save time check this out.(Malachi 3 v 8- 12)

realmindz:
anybody who says tithe was money and believe should be paid....kindly explain clearly this chapter of the bible otherwise forever keep silent till eternity........




Deuteronomy 14:22-29 New International Version (NIV)
Tithes
22 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year. 23 Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and olive oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the Lord your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the
Lord your God always. 24 But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the Lord your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the Lord will choose to put his Name is so far away), 25 then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the Lord your God will choose. 26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the Lord your God and rejoice. 27
And do not neglect the Levites living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own.
28 At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes of that year’s produce and store it in your towns, 29 so that the Levites (who have no allotment or inheritance of their own) and the foreigners, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hands....

S247:
"In the beginning was the 'WORD' and the 'WORD' was with GOD,(Jh. 1:1) The "WORD" means JESUS CHRIST. God knew what man would end up doing, so He already planned out the coming of Jesus Christ 4rm the beginning so that the man that he created will not be totally wiped out. To ensure that His aim to make man live forever in the garden of Eden is accomplished. But it is only for those who accept JESUS CHRIST and do His will.

S247:
JESUS paid direct tax as individuals.All tithes, offerings & donations had already been taxed directly by the goverment individually b4 taken to churches. so taxing churches directly makes it double taxation. Because govt. sees such as TRANSFERRED EARNINGS not INCOME. Obviously churches pay indirect taxes on things purchased. If there is any constitution stipulating that churches should pay taxes, I'm sure no true church will hesitate.

S247:
Matthew 25 v 40

Danyl:

Malachi from chapter 1 to 3 was addressed to the priests if you read in between the lines.

Chemcrown:

do you read what I wrote at all. I know it was directed to the priest.

realmindz:

are u high on cheap weed
40 “Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

How does this passage support the claim that we should pay 10% to pastors...?
cheerful giving to people in need is what the passage was saying...
pls say another one

realmindz:

you my friend are the one who needs enlightenment, u need to understand that passage befr u preach hence u misinterprete, funny enough, that chapter was referring to the priests who were being corrupt with the agricultural produce in their care...saying "can a man rob God" read the whole chapter and try to understand priesthood, levites, burnt offerings, temples, tithes....if all these are no longer practiced, why is tithe the only thing still being practiced..

my friend, u need to be enlightened.
Deut 14 vs 22 to 29 is enough reason for you to know that TITHE WAS NEVER EVER MONEY

S247:
Pay tithes or leave it, it's between you & God.No be by force.

S247:
Why do people find it difficult to pay TITHES?

skedobo:
As members of the new testament church, we are not required to pay tithes. Pls read Hebrews chapter 10. All the offerings and tithes offered by the isrealites did not please God so replaced those offering and tithes with the sacrifice of our Lord Jesus Christ. Secondly, tithes and offerings were part of the Jewish laws made for the jews. We are gentiles so we shouldn't even pay tithes at all

Chemcrown:

I have referred S247 to the whole Malachi but he won't read it,

topdee:


Really? Listen you yourself. What is the essence of allowing evil to exist? Why create a problem when you know the repercussions?

realmindz:

who told those who pay tithes are more blessed?
The holy scammers will preach "The blessings may not come back to you in form of money but in other means" They say this so u won't question why you are getting poorer despite remitting a 10%....

Jst take a look at tithing, a very funny activity of mere mortals, earn income, then carry calculator to calculate 10%, deduct the funds, take it to bank or do Internet banking transfer or pay cash in church....All these, nothing connected to the spiritual...They are all man made acitivties

asalimpo:

All kingdoms have a tax system for running it. God's kingdom runs on tithe and offering.
That's how the churches are run.

If you pay income tax of 40%+, then what is a 10% tithe. it's fixed and unmovable. not fluctuating like those of worldly kingdoms.

brocab:
Fixed for the rich who want to be rich, but not scriptural. And tithes isn't classed as taxes, taxes were paid with Money as it was back then and how it's paid today.
Tithing came under the food industry.
And Churches are running because the spirit of greed had entered into the hearts of men.

asalimpo:

the bible tithe is 10% . tithe is a tax, if you know what a tax is. As for you "food industry " logic - that's plain garble.
The isrealites paid tithe on food and livestock because they were an agrarian society.
The tithe is on "all increase". if you dont want to pay in kind you can pay the equivalent value in cash.

brocab:
If you really believe a tax is classed as a tithe, then I pay my 10% taxes to the land, each year, which means I have given to God, by obeying the law of the land. And I don't need to tithe-tax else where supporting the rich to become richer.
{Matthew 17:24-27} The tax collectors asked Peter does not your teacher pay temple taxes, Peter said yes, and when he had come into the house Jesus was the first to speak, what do you think Simon, He asked, from whom do the kings of the earth take customs or taxes, from their sons or from strangers? Peter said to Him from strangers." Jesus said to Him then the sons are "FREE". Nevertheless lest we offend them, go to the sea, and cast a hook, and take the fish that comes up first. And when you have open its mouth, you will find a piece of money, take that and give it to them for Me and you.
So you see Jesus really didn't have any attentions to pay a tax, no-tithes no taxes, and because He wasn't looking for an argument, He told peter to go and catch a fish. And Jesus said the sons are free, are we not sons?
So instead of trying to prove your own theories, try and give as scriptures to prove we must pay tithes on top of taxes in cash every week?
But if you can't produce the evidence, which you won't, than this matter is closed.

asalimpo:


Dyu read your comments before you post?
Tithe is a tax (or a type of tax).
How does that translate into tax is tithe?

A benz is type of car.
does that mean, cars are benz!

By your reasoning:
electricity bill is a type of bill.
water bill is a type of bill.
So paying electricity bill to water board absolves you of your obligation to nepa! -


circular illogical reasoning.. please think before you retort.