TheGoodJoe:


I think it is not all about how long they last but the long lasting effects of their performances.

I think the best model we need is to go back to the way Coach Westerhoff used to screen players. Coach Amunike is developing a knack for it and Coach Garba also.

Coach Westerhoff used to have up to one hundred players in the early stages of the camp and then screen out the best.

That built unity and a sense of belonging.

This model can help us integrate more players into the team. Both local products and foreign. Give more chance for these foreign boys to feel part of the team and make the coaches have closer look at them.

After a week or so, cut out the main ones who will make the team and pick some bright promising talents to train with the squad for next time.

What we are seeing Coach Amunike doing with the U20 is typical Coach Westerhoff.

He already has the U17 winning team but he is running an open camp with hundreds of players to continue searching for fresh talents and increase competition in the team.

I think we should adopt this model to the Super Eagles but this time we invite Professionals from home and abroad.

binhozie:


J.ibe will make d two Hausa men playing 2 and 7 for nigeria look stupid

Solanke has declared interest are you serious pairing that guy with osimhen na die
But in other news, I respect ur views even thou they differ from mine most times but, I don't like y we miss out on one talent because we have other talents no bring them all cap them all we cant stay in our homes and know who is better, one thing this Anglo naija boys have on their side is youth, don't be surprised if V. Moses career last longer than iheanachos own from now.I don't belong to any side we need all the players having a heart conversation with someone who can't pronounce his name and convincing him to play for our country is not begging, players like Costa T. Motta Camoranesi the various F.A met with them is not begging at all. This are big nations not we proud Nigerians
Its dis things that will even make d player more dedicated, we keep saying we don't need dis one and DAT one but our football is dying
Y did debruyne go to man city ?
They called him every day.

binhozie:


That's very good even Siasia does it too

But Amuneke should put some foreign based youths on that list na all I see na home based.
Another thing is this age thing is killing us.
Good young players can't make d cut at that age wen their competing with their forefathers

We need that approach we can't be grooming ediles and dropping alabas again oh

TheGoodJoe:


Talents are plenty. I believe in Establishing contacts but not begging.

Mfon Udoh and Emem Eduok are yet to be capped in a Super Eagles competitive game, to the best of my knowledge.

That is how difficult it is here. It is just this NFF mismanagement that is making people feel we do not have talents.

Last year we were talking of how talented Joseph Nathaniel is, today no one even mentions his name.

binhozie:


That's very good even Siasia does it too

But Amuneke should put some foreign based youths on that list na all I see na home based.
Another thing is this age thing is killing us.
Good young players can't make d cut at that age wen their competing with their forefathers

We need that approach we can't be grooming ediles and dropping alabas again oh

binhozie:


Bro s look at that Eduak s face very well, the one playing in North Africa I reserve the rest of my comment, some of this guys are short term, nigeria s biggest problem is no long term plan for the team all d great teams did not start of in one day.Jesus where is that Joseph Nathaniel guy all we hear now is ifeanyi up and down

binhozie:


J.ibe will make d two Hausa men playing 2 and 7 for nigeria look stupid

Solanke has declared interest are you serious pairing that guy with osimhen na die
But in other news, I respect ur views even thou they differ from mine most times but, I don't like y we miss out on one talent because we have other talents no bring them all cap them all we cant stay in our homes and know who is better, one thing this Anglo naija boys have on their side is youth, don't be surprised if V. Moses career last longer than iheanachos own from now.I don't belong to any side we need all the players having a heart conversation with someone who can't pronounce his name and convincing him to play for our country is not begging, players like Costa T. Motta Camoranesi the various F.A met with them is not begging at all. This are big nations not we proud Nigerians
Its dis things that will even make d player more dedicated, we keep saying we don't need dis one and DAT one but our football is dying
Y did debruyne go to man city ?
They called him every day.

TheGoodJoe:


Time is going and the NFF should know their problems disrupt the coach's plans.

We need the camping preparations sorted out and we need the Technical committee to go through his plans, give him feedback and endorse him to start working.

That is actually what causes us to leave talents behind. Lack of time. From one problem to another.

forgiveness:



@bolded is the point.

All the players you mentioned are very good for the Super Eagles but........

Chai!!! See gobe.

You are forgiven, go and sin no more.

TheSuperNerd:

Obviously resuming camping with the home-based. Rio here we come. #smiles.
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EKPAI INVITED, OLULAYO DROPPED AS SIASIA INVITES 30 FOR OLYMPICS PREPARATIONS





Three MFM FC players have been invited to the Dream Team VI squad ahead Rio 2016 Olympics build up
Coach Samson Siasia has invited 30 players to camp ahead 2016 Olympics billed for Brazil.


Heading the list are goalkeeper Emmanuel Daniel, Stanley Dimgba and Ubong Ekpai who got Nigeria U23’s only goal in their 1-0 defeat of Brazil U23 in an international friendly.


Three players of Mountain of Fire Ministry Football Club were given the chance to compete for a shirt for the Olympics men football event. They include Obanor Erhun , Stanley Okorom and Julius Emiloju.


All invited players are expected to arrive the Starview Hotel, Gwarinpa Estate, Abuja on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 with their international passports, while training commences on Wednesday.


LIST OF INVITED PLAYERS

1. Emmanuel Daniel (Enugu Rangers)

2. Yusuf Mohammed (Kano Pillars)

3. Daniel Emmanson (Akwa United)

4. Omasteye Alex (First Bank)

5. Sincere Seth (Rhapsody FC)

6. Oduduwa Segun (Nath FC)

7. Obanor Erhun (MFM FC)

8. Ahamefule Chizoba (Abia Warriors)

9. Ndifreke Effiong (Abia Warriors)

10. Chima Akas (Enyimba FC)

11. Timothy Danladi (Katsina United)

12. Stanley Okorom (MFM FC)

13. Harrison Ibukun (Akwa United)

14. Ubong Ekpai (Akwa United)

15. David Itoho (Nath FC)

16. Kabiru Moshood (Ikorodu United)

17. Bright Onyedikachi (FC IfeanyiUbah)

18. Ifeanyi Mathew (Kano Pillars)

19. Tiongoli Tonbara (Bayelsa United)

20. Olisah Ndah (Rivers FC)

21. Julius Emiloju (MFM FC)

22. Joseph Osadiaye (Enyimba FC)

23. Daniel Etor (Enyimba FC)

24. Austine Dimgba (Sunshine Stars)

25. Ezekiel Mbah (Kano Pillars)

26. Abdulrahman Taiwo (Kwara United)

27. Godwin Obaje (Wikki Tourists)

28. Kufre Ebong (Akwa United)

29. Uchenna Agha (Freestans FC)

30. Godwin Aguda (Rangers FC)


Source: http://m.goal.com/s/en-ng/news/11252/nigeria-u23/2016/04/11/22260932/ekpai-invited-olulayo-dropped-as-siasia-invites-30-for

terzurum5:


@the bolded, thats ma guy.

No Nwobodo on the list?

Hope Coach Samaon Siasia will not leave out Chison Chikatara when he dolls out his list of foreign based players.

TheGoodJoe:


I believe Musa Yahaya will give Jordan Ibe a run for his money. I believe that guy scatter and I will take Simon Moses over Ibe.

Jordan Ibe was already in Liverpool when LFC came looking for Simon Moses Signature.

I think Victor Moses is a better player.

Among the English boys, I will take Zaha over him.

binhozie:



Bro you don't get it whether you prefer someone in Portuguese division 2 over him doesnt matter the fact is he is a good addition to our team as a starter a sub a 3 rd 11 self he will provide completion and all players will improve collectively and the guy is versatile he can play right back unlike all this dudes ur mentioning

TheGoodJoe:


I do not miss Ibe. We have many talents. He would have been a good addition. There are others home and abroad ready to play for us that will make good additions.

Chidebere Nwakali, Awoniyi and Yahaya are in lower divisions because of Work Permit.

TheSuperNerd:
Like l've always said, not all these foreign-borns will play for us (and not all are even Super eagles materials in the long run) and when we have super options in a department, then we must focus on only the exceptional or potentially exceptional.

Ibe has already made his choice so why are we still talking "Ibe" ??

Forget Ibe.... even Akpom is not that spectacular. Why waste time on these when we have Sheyi Ojo, Ola Aina, Ehizibue, Ebuehi, Adarabioyo, Solanke, and a couple of other super talented Nigerian foreign-borns we should really focus on? Some have already declared for Nigeria like Nathaniel Oduwa for our U-23s for instance.

We can't approach and get all. We will just do the best we can. Our central and primary bank of top talents have always been players born in Nigeria. The foreign-borns are just our secondary channel of top talents and yeah... a very important secondary channel that is too (Leon Balogun, Troost Ekong, Etc).




So I'm with you Sir GoodJoe.....I TOO WILL NOT MISS IBE. Besides we have a plethora of top talents on that left wing rising through also.

binhozie:


Ibe might not be a world class player at the moment but when you say you have top talent you make me laugh,
Some of your talents are playing the best football of their lives at 20, because they are 30.
This I don't need we already have attitude is ruining Nigeria the other footballing nations don't think that way why was England gunning for A.Iwobi is it because he will bench Dele Alli or Barkley or Rooney hell no they want all the good ones. Even when iwobi had declared for nigeria travelled down and played with the U23 several times and was preparing for the match against Egypt, they still made attempts to get him,
did they call it begging? But we proud Nigerians think its begging to convince a player that hasn't made his debut for any country yet.
Akpom is not good but he is first choice England U 20 striker and has been scoring for hull city. He can't possibly be bad for U 20 team or a provisional Olympic team list can he?

TheSuperNerd:
Laugh you can.... but it changes not the fact that we do have top talents.

And by that I refer to rising top talents. What proof do you wanna bring on board to show that the likes of Musa Yahaya, Sadiq Umar, Imoh Ezekiel, Chidera Ezeh, Moses Simon, Chidozie Awaziem, Wilfred Ndidi, and a couple of Nigeria's rising top talents are in their 30s?

Never use the past or the experience of some others to judge all and the present.

And you mistake pride for the points raised. We don't want players "forced" to commit. That's theGoodJoe's point.

is it a crime to say we have enough when indeed we have enough? Not withstanding, we can only get as much as we attempt. I've already outlined talents out there we should be aiming for and not just inviting for invitation's sake.

When you look at our senior national team, we lack enough defensive options at right back, left backs and even good center back backups. This should guide our players search among the foreign-borns.

As for Iwobi, sorry he never played for the U-23s. He was with the team in Gabon for one of the qualifiers but didn't feature. Also, Siasia has already convinced Iwobi hence his willingness to travel down to Nigeria and to Gabon with the team.

All the news of England's pursuit only popped up days to Nigeria's Afcon qualifiers against Egypt. WHERE WAS THE ENGLISH MEDIA ALL THE WHILE IWOBI WAS WITH NIGERIA'S U-23s, Oliseh's Eagles for the Cameroon and DR Congo friendlies?? Where were they??

In case you don't know the English, I'll let you know they were only trying to keep Iwobi from Nigeria like they did with Agbonlahor. England never monitored Iwobi genuinely if not why pop up close to Nigeria's afcon qualifiers when iwobi declared for Nigeria since last year?

Abeg, I'm very conversant with the English media's style of communicating news and matters. England was just being a pest as regards Iwobi. Iwobi was already ours even before his competitive debut.

binhozie:


Ibe might not be a world class player at the moment but when you say you have top talent you make me laugh,
Some of your talents are playing the best football of their lives at 20, because they are 30.
This I don't need we already have attitude is ruining Nigeria the other footballing nations don't think that way why was England gunning for A.Iwobi is it because he will bench Dele Alli or Barkley or Rooney hell no they want all the good ones. Even when iwobi had declared for nigeria travelled down and played with the U23 several times and was preparing for the match against Egypt, they still made attempts to get him,
did they call it begging? But we proud Nigerians think its begging to convince a player that hasn't made his debut for any country yet.
Akpom is not good but he is first choice England U 20 striker and has been scoring for hull city. He can't possibly be bad for U 20 team or a provisional Olympic team list can he?

binhozie:




I said some and Didnt mention names when i said 30yr olds which was an obvious exaggeration, but you and I know some of this guys are clearly not 20 and pls England were serious about A.Iwobi and we are all conversant with English medias style of communicating news and matters.

TheGoodJoe:



Jeez, Are you Nigerian? Because, you just said, your top talent, not our top talents.

TheSuperNerd:
You saw that too? #smiles

Well, I just had to ignore it. Probably, he was just trying to "emphasize". Does not make him less Nigerian.... #smiles

binhozie:

I accept that you have exclusive rights to English media and the language as well.
Since you know Nigeria's problem I'll advice you start a political party
Iwobi played for U16 U17 and U 18 s , the only grade he missed was the U 19s, they had plans maybe not big plans
The boy is 19.

Your top talent means they are top talent to you.

Top talent doesn't mean anybody that gives a rabona pass or is playing in Belgium at 35 under the pretence of being a toddler and on the bench self.

If we really had a lot of top talents as you claim we won't be 14 in Africa.
It just depends your standard thou.
I just feel players who have had quality training from their tender years and are still young might just be d ingredient we need to take our football forward.
We will probably win the Olympics and it might not just be because of Iwobi iheanacho and osimhen, but certain more mature personalities added to them besides the normal 3. In the end we are just fooling ourselves.