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| Re: Debate An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 2:56pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
urahara:According to Johnydon22 , there are pastors in Netherlands who are atheists and Agnostics . So .... |
| Re: Debate An Atheist by johnydon22(m): 2:57pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:Still on the matter. -Tell us how religions perceived this being in order to assert it actually existed at all. -So how can religious even tender any understanding of an inscrutable entity (Isn't these characters then works of assumptions? ) |
| Re: Debate An Atheist by urahara(m): 2:58pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:Oh. If it iznt the "christianity isnt a religion cliche" Well a car is not a car .it is a vehicle to aid commutation easier |
| Re: Debate An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:00pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
johnydon22:He claims to be God in human flesh ? 1 John 4:1-6 1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. |
| Re: Debate An Atheist by johnydon22(m): 3:01pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:Still on the matter Hong Xiuquan claimed to be Son of God, is this proof for God also? Mount Olympus was the abode Zeus, is the existence of mount Olympus evidence of God (zeus) too? |
| Re: Debate An Atheist by johnydon22(m): 3:02pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:Hahahahaha so you doubt Olumba Olumba Obu cannot be God in human flesh also as Jesus were? I am still waiting for the question to be answered though Don't you think Olumba Olumba Obu is also proof of God since he also claims to be God in human flesh? |
| Re: Debate An Atheist by urahara(m): 3:02pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:Oh my im so scared .my soul is in danger of the amaterasu like flames of hell but i am so confused as to which one of the thousands of hells i am afraid of. There are so many of them . |
| Re: Debate An Atheist by dorox(m): 3:02pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
@UcleSnr: Is there any conception of God as defined by its adherent that you would wish were true? If yes, why? |
| Re: Debate An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:05pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
johnydon22:Religion did not assert anything or assume . Ummm lets look at a computer system . To make it possible for students to understand the intricate workings of the computer system , a course called Computer Architecture that explains this is being in the University . We also have Nature : Biology , Physics , Philosophy all these are being used to understand Nature much better .Does it mean Nature does not exist ? |
| Re: Debate An Atheist by urahara(m): 3:07pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
johnydon22:I am seriously starting to think this guy is just kidding and obviously doesnt obviously want us 2 take dis as arguments |
| Re: Debate An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:10pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
johnydon22:All these were claims . The Bible taught us clearly to be watchful of false Christs and false prophets . MATTHEW 24:24 For there shall arise false christs and false prophets and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.Zeus and co are Greek Mythology |
| Re: Debate An Atheist by johnydon22(m): 3:10pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:But actually when all these Courses are sure nature is and they base their teachings on this . E.G: astronomy studies the stars and before one assert there are stars it is very very clear for all to see so nobody asks how they got to know about Stars before studying them. So now the question is -Tell us how religions perceived this being in order to assert it actually existed at all -So how can religious even tender any understanding of an inscrutable entity (Isn't these characters then works of assumptions? ) Nature can be scrutinized and understood as we are doing hence ^^^^^^^^^^ |
| Re: Debate An Atheist by johnydon22(m): 3:12pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:And so the one you believe cannot be anymore than just a claim as others? ![]() Don't you think the same way you think yours is legitimate others also think theirs is. so you see? ![]() So do you think Olumba Olumba Obu who claim to be God cannot be God but Jesus is because you believe his own claim right? You see the point? So we are still waiting how Jesus's claim proves your own God anymore than Olumba olumba Obu's claim does? And Yahweh and Co cannot be Jewish mythology? ? ![]() |
| Re: Debate An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:14pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
johnydon22:My "religion" was founded on the teachings of CHrist . Paul and Christ's disciples were astonished by the miracles and His prescience . They witnessed the death and resurrection of Christ . And were rest assured that he was God indeed I don't how other religions did it |
| Re: Debate An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:18pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
johnydon22:Jewish mythology ? Jesus is God . Jesus is a historical figure . His prescience has been proven to be true with various claims of people who think they are reincarnations of Him . Written clearly in the bible . |
| Re: Debate An Atheist by urahara(m): 3:18pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:When u debate atheists pls stop quoting the bible as if evry1 takes it 2 b true. Take dis .put it in ur pipe and smoke it |
| Re: Debate An Atheist by johnydon22(m): 3:20pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:hahahahahaha getting interesting- -Islam was founded on the teachings of Muhammed who also lays claims to outstanding Miracles and presence of God too. (Somehow ended up having a very different concept from yours even though both allegedly got a first hand presence feel of the 'God') -Confucianism is founded on the teachings of Confucius -Buddhism founded on the teachings of Buddha.. So how does this make yours any better ? Now this still does not answer the question which is -Tell us how religions perceived this being in order to assert it actually existed at all -So how can religious even tender any understanding of an inscrutable entity (Isn't these characters then works of assumptions? ) |
| Re: Debate An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:22pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
urahara:Stop talking nonsense . You dont tell me what to do . The bible gave an infallible account of Christ which includes his words on earth . |
| Re: Debate An Atheist by urahara(m): 3:24pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:.the quran also tells us 2 be watchful of false christs and prophets in various surahs and hadiths |
| Re: Debate An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:25pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
johnydon22:https://www.nairaland.com/2845259/all-different-religions-how-know |
| Re: Debate An Atheist by johnydon22(m): 3:25pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:Hahahahaha clearly written in the bible? how does the bible writing anything make it true ![]() Olumba Olumba Obu actually is a very much existential figure in fact he's still alive by the way. You see the point? So we are still waiting how Jesus's claim proves your own God anymore than Olumba olumba Obu's claim does? we are still waiting though Yes Jewish Mythology just like we also have Greek mythologies and legends. |
| Re: Debate An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:25pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
urahara:So the quran agrees then . |
| Re: Debate An Atheist by urahara(m): 3:26pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
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| Re: Debate An Atheist by johnydon22(m): 3:28pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:Hahahaha common this should be a discussion... The questions are still hanging.. -Islam was founded on the teachings of Muhammed who also lays claims to outstanding Miracles and presence of God too. (Somehow ended up having a very different concept from yours even though both allegedly got a first hand presence feel of the 'God') -Confucianism is founded on the teachings of Confucius -Buddhism founded on the teachings of Buddha.. So how does this make yours any better ? Now this still does not answer the question which is -Tell us how religions perceived this being in order to assert it actually existed at all -So how can religious even tender any understanding of an inscrutable entity which turns out to be different with every religion.. (Isn't these characters then works of assumptions? ) |
| Re: Debate An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:28pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
johnydon22:Jesus is a historical figure not a myth . Jesus's prescience of false Christs who would come after His existence was documented in the bible as seen in the aforementioned verse . Outlandish , weak and blatant claims that Christ is a myth is nothing more than a cavil . Why are you resorting to a back and forth ![]() |
| Re: Debate An Atheist by johnydon22(m): 3:29pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:so since the Quran as Urahara pointed out also mentioned Muhammed and his words, does this prove Muhammed actually rode a flying horse named Buraq? |
| Re: Debate An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:30pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
johnydon22:I am not a muslim . Go ask a muslim that question bro . |
| Re: Debate An Atheist by urahara(m): 3:31pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:WHAT THE DUCK. U TOTALLY. MISSED MY POINT which is the quran tells all muslims that their prophet is d right one and that they should be on d look out for false prophets and christs just d same were ur story book tells u guys that ur prophet is d right one qnd u should be on thw look out for false prophets and christs |
| Re: Debate An Atheist by johnydon22(m): 3:31pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:hahahaha we still on the same page brother.. Does Olumba Olumba Obu's existence prove he is actually God? so if anyone claims to be a deity and turns out that person was a historical figure, this automatically proves he was a deity? ![]() Muhammed also claimed to have ridden a flying horse and muhammed was a historical figure, does this prove Muhammad actually rode Buraq? |
| Re: Debate An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:33pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
johnydon22:That thread perfectly answers your questions bro . I can't indite a verbiage now when a thread has done the job |
| Re: Debate An Atheist by johnydon22(m): 3:34pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:Lmao aren't you the same person that thinks that because the bible recorded the alleged words of Jesus then it proves Jesus was a deity? So how come when faced with the same situation as in the case of Muhammed that logic breaks down?.. Since biblical accounts in your own idea proves a deity Jesus doesn't the Quranic accounts also prove Muhammad flew on a flying horse then? |
| Re: Debate An Atheist by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:34pm On Apr 22, 2016 |
urahara:ok then . If you say so ![]() |
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Are you done disporting with the kids on the play ground . Religion was made by man . Is this the first time you are seeing this 
. The bible gave an infallible account of Christ which includes his words on earth .
. Why are you resorting to a back and forth 