Image123:


A man has cancer and another stomach ache. They both end up in the hospital. Fair?

I have been following this thread from page one and you were the stand-out christian until you wrote this nonsense.

Image123:


i don't know if there is any lesson. People take away different things at different times from an event. Maybe that God is sovereign. That you do not know something does not necessarily mean that "it has no objective". Do you know all things?
Good and bad thing happens to anybody, that is clearly stated in the Bible. God promised that bad things will only stop when He 'launches' the new earth and new heaven. On our earth here, good and bad things happen and tears are not yet wiped away. That is my point that it is not a new discovery but clearly taught in the Scriptures. That someone became an atheist at discovering this shows he did not look well before he leaped, he did not read the fine prints of the contract. He was probably inclined to the popular 'prosperity gospel' that teaches that once you give your life to Christ, its jolly jolly all the way. Jesus came to save people from sin, all the rest is addition and probability. Though of course, there are some laid down laws and principle that if obeyed will bring results. e.g giving laws, diligence, planning, importunity etc.
Also, children of God are special, like in the sense that God is likely to give them preferential treatment ahead of others if He is to act. If i do something well and pray, and you do something well and don't pray, i will get a better result than you. If i pray as a christian, and you pray as a sinner, i will get a expected answer to my prayer before you. Then, God wants us to trust Him, instead of demanding an explanation for His actions. That's the way He is, just saying.
We worship God because He is Creator and Lord of our lives.

Lol... People take away different things from different event... Is that a biblical quote? But that's true anyway, yet that's the way of the world, what does your God expect when he lets the way of the world overtake events that are supposed to prove him? Different people react differently to different things and your si called almighty God does not understand this? He does not even act to counter it? He just gets Angry that someone acts like human. Well, I see this statement for what it is and it shows how different events have nothing to do with God.
And please stop that falsehood. Christians are no better than anybody. They are not special in anyway. If they like pray down fire, they all have equal opportunity to succeed in life with everybody. You can't be calling your self special yet you have a boss who is not a Christian at workplace. Or a landlord who is not a Christian. You can't live in the same uncertainty with UNBELIEVERS and still claim to be special. I know many Christians around me, there is nothing special about them, just claims to be special.

analice107:

Sirwere, there's an impending doom.
Look around you. If you ask me, i can be sure to tell you that the Antichrist has been born and is growing up somewhere warming up for the take over. You think its a joke?
See all of you guys fighting very hard for many more people to fall off from faith, its a fulfilment of the scripture. There's no time that knowledge has increased the way it has increased now. Checkout the level of iniquity in the world today. See how Christians are being killed by Muslims, Jesus said, this time will come that when the Christians are being killed by beheading, the killers will think they are doing God a service. Is it happening?
You think its a Joke? Doom is at the door. The trumpet may sound even this night. And then you guys will take over the world and rule it to the fullest, but only for 7years though.

Oh yea....... I feel ya!!!!

Sarassin:
The Divine speaks to us in very many ways but we do our very best to drown its voice in a cacophony of our own desires.

We each have our reasons therefore I do not judge. As a child I had an encounter with an entity I now know to be the deity of compassion, years later on a subsequent visit to the Flavia Domitilla gallery at the Roman Catacombs and in the company of its venerable brothers I was asked to look at certain images, One particular picture gave me the shock of several lifetimes, its effect on me was so profound I wept like a child. I turned my back on Christianity ever since.

Nice one brother. I am in a very difficult situation. But I found peace in the bolded.

If I may ask, why did the picture shock you to such extent?

HardMirror:

Most of the christians you see here online are worse than unbelievers. How many souls have they won around them, but they come online to defend god. Most are just cosmetic christians still fornicating and living in sin. I have not met a christian that is passionate about saving souls that is not worried about God's incompetency because you would have had so many touching encounters and realize god is actually doing nothing for humanity, but we humans are the ones running around for god (that does not even exists)

I'm a muslim but was curious about this thread.
Our perception of the creator differs. I'm of the opinion that if a logical person scrutinises the religious books we have, they can't withstand scrutiny.
There are some things in islam and Quran that I don't agree with and I can't get satisfactory answers to them. I know even the bible has more of such that is very obvious and I seriously wonder at the intelligence of those swallowing everything dogmatically. But that is the power of religion.
Now to the issue of God/creator existing, I'm sure no sane person believes all these things came to being from nothing . You just may disagree with the concept of God presented to you by the organised religion.
As someone a bit knowledgeable about general science, I belief the universe was set to be self sustaining.
It's no fluke in design that the planets are circular to rotate. And it's no coincidence that the space is in vacuum. That's the only reason such unimaginable weight can be suspended. And the celestial bodies have magnetic fluxes helping to turn each other like unseen hands.
The vacuum is such that if a body is pushed in space, na so the body go dey move go till eternity. Nothing to stop it. No air resistance. Except it enters into the magnetic field of a celestial body and it would continue its movement till eternity with that orbit.
So obviously, the planets and stars and their satellites were all perfectly aligned in vacuum /space and each set to motion perpetually with all conditions to make it possible put in place.
Any discerning mind should understand that I'm going somewhere with all these epistle.
My point is that, God doesn't seem to like interfering in the affairs of men.
He obviously cares too much about all creature and in both Christianity and islam , the only thing he requires from us is worship and no idolatry to compete with Him. All the rest laws is about not hurting one another and that forms the bulk of our sins. From hurting His creatures.
It's even so apparent of His love that removing harmful things that could hurt fellow humans from the road is considered a good deed, so as planting tress to shade animals and travellers from the sun and even leaving water on your windows for birds to drink.
He has set rules for us that should ideally make the world a better place if we could follow them.
What's the essence of interference if all would account for his own actions or inaction to make the world better. How many of such homeless or hapless people have you personally rehabilitated.
To buttress my point, even life as we know it can only reside in a body once the minimum required physical conditions are met. That's what doctors try to maintain . And life would enter a body through conception or artificial means if a minimum basic natural conditions are met. That's why you may clone or cross breed.
These processes are programed to proceed and life go on.
The idea of the Creator presented by organised religion could confuse or discourage the Intelligent mind but there is no doubt that the universe didn't happen from nothing. Could matter be made from nothing?
You still need a platform to relate with your creator.
Islam appeals to me to worship my creator. I have it at the back of my mind that I am strictly worshipping my creator while praying, irrespective of the language used or the name given to Him by the religion.
I think you all need to discover yours.

analice107:

Whatever.

THE CHRISTIAN CODEWORD FOR "I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY " ?

Ranchhoddas:
I have been following this thread from page and you were the stand-out christian until you wrote this nonsense.

And i ve been trying to explain to the nigga that what he wrote was so not intelligent

analice107:


Oh dear. God speaks loudly and clearly. But how can that happen when you hate him? you blame him for the things you dont understand. You make yourself a stranger, Why? Draw closer and he will draw closer to you. If you want him to talk with you, you have to desire to have a relationship with Him sincerely. Just like your earthly father, if you keep going against his instructions, you cant have a good rapport with him nah. Ask Him to show you himself. But you must know his 'Word', so that you'll know that he is the one talking. You know why? There are so many voices in the supernatural. Gods voice agree with the already written word, Mosttimes he uses the Word to speak to you, when you develop your spiritual senses, he then begins to speak audibly to you.
He speaks, yes he does.

But let me warn you here, do not desire to hear voices now, if you do, satan will impersonate God [/b]and start talking to you. Grow in the Word (Bible study) first.

Hate God? I don't hate God, I just hate how people use the God factor to deceive and manipulate the gullibles and vulnerables. After so many minor and major research I found out that the aforementioned God was an Ideology.

All the points you buttressed on,have being practicalised by ME.I tried so hard,believed,fasted,prayed ceaselessly, abstained from women and [b]SEX till konji nearly killed me. Analice I tried ooo, seeking for answers and the imaginary heavenly cosmos.
Until further research made me realised I was living a life of facade.

Like I said earlier, I wished "GOD DEY".

Satan Does satan exist.choiii


On the contrary, I liked how humble and diplomatic you related with me this time.Thanks

Am addressing this question to people who keep saying "it's better you serve god now than realize there is a god when you die".
- If one wants to serve a god, which god is the true god? Because there over a million religions out there, and all claim their god is the true god.
- Why is it imperative that one needs to worship a god? Why is it so important??
- I believe the christian god is built on the morals of the Israelis, Jews amongst others, they exported their religion en mass, why do Africans abandon your own religion for some shipped over one, I have read about some African gods, it's quite cool, you don't feel yours is good enough?
I need answers because am outright perplexed.

I recall posting on this topic earlier that my ma is Christian, spoke with her just few hours ago over the phone and she is converted to Wiccan already *sigh*

WHY IS RELIGION SO IMPORTANT?‎

virginboy1:


Hate God? I don't hate God, I just hate how people use the God factor to deceive and manipulate the gullibles and vulnerables. After so many minor and major research I found out that the aforementioned God was an Ideology.

All the points you buttressed on,have being practicalised by ME.I tried so hard,believed,fasted,prayed ceaselessly, abstained from women and SEX till konji nearly killed me. Analice I tried ooo, seeking for answers and the imaginary heavenly cosmos.
Until further research made me realised I was living a life of facade.

Like I said earlier, I wished "GOD DEY".

Satan Does satan exist.choiii


On the contrary, I liked how humble and diplomatic you related with me this time.Thanks

Thanks for the kind words dear.
But why didn't you find God or rather, why didn't find you? He said those who seek him finds Him. My dear, you sure you did right? You know, there's always a Why and a How to a thing.

gbadexy:

I'm a muslim but was curious about this thread.
Our perception of the creator differs. I'm of the opinion that if a logical person scrutinises the religious books we have, they can't withstand scrutiny.
There are some things in islam and Quran that I don't agree with and I can't get satisfactory answers to them. I know even the bible has more of such that is very obvious and I seriously wonder at the intelligence of those swallowing everything dogmatically. But that is the power of religion.
Now to the issue of God/creator existing, I'm sure no sane person believes all these things came to being from nothing . You just may disagree with the concept of God presented to you by the organised religion.
As someone a bit knowledgeable about general science, I belief the universe was set to be self sustaining.
It's no fluke in design that the planets are circular to rotate. And it's no coincidence that the space is in vacuum. That's the only reason such unimaginable weight can be suspended. And the celestial bodies have magnetic fluxes helping to turn each other like unseen hands.
The vacuum is such that if a body is pushed in space, na so the body go dey move go till eternity. Nothing to stop it. No air resistance. Except it enters into the magnetic field of a celestial body and it would continue its movement till eternity with that orbit.
So obviously, the planets and stars and their satellites were all perfectly aligned in vacuum /space and each set to motion perpetually with all conditions to make it possible put in place.
Any discerning mind should understand that I'm going somewhere with all these epistle.
My point is that, God doesn't seem to like interfering in the affairs of men.
He obviously cares too much about all creature and in both Christianity and islam , the only thing he requires from us is worship and no idolatry to compete with Him. All the rest laws is about not hurting one another and that forms the bulk of our sins. From hurting His creatures.
It's even so apparent of His love that removing harmful things that could hurt fellow humans from the road is considered a good deed, so as planting tress to shade animals and travellers from the sun and even leaving water on your windows for birds to drink.
He has set rules for us that should ideally make the world a better place if we could follow them.
What's the essence of interference if all would account for his own actions or inaction to make the world better. How many of such homeless or hapless people have you personally rehabilitated.
To buttress my point, even life as we know it can only reside in a body once the minimum required physical conditions are met. That's what doctors try to maintain . And life would enter a body through conception or artificial means if a minimum basic natural conditions are met. That's why you may clone or cross breed.
These processes are programed to proceed and life go on.
The idea of the Creator presented by organised religion could confuse or discourage the Intelligent mind but there is no doubt that the universe didn't happen from nothing. Could matter be made from nothing?
You still need a platform to relate with your creator.
Islam appeals to me to worship my creator. I have it at the back of my mind that I am strictly worshipping my creator while praying, irrespective of the language used or the name given to Him by the religion.
I think you all need to discover yours.

nice write up but....

I also think these religious book are flawed and can't be instructions from the creator of this universe. I like the way you described how you think everything was perfectly put in place even in space.

But why do you think this creator needs to be worshiped? I think the desriee for worship or the act of worship is a human thing. How did you come to know that this creator needs wirhip just like humans? Did the creator tell you this? What do you think he needs the worship for? His ego? Pride?

If the creator perfectly put things in place in space as u described, why didn't he make man as organized. Why is he watching man kill each other and destroy the earth?

Again... Why do you think this creator needs worship?

swaggzo:




THE CHRISTIAN CODEWORD FOR "I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY " ?

Not your type.

analice107:


Thanks for the kind words dear.
But why didn't you find God or rather, why didn't find you? He said those who seek him finds Him. My dear, you sure you did right? You know, there's always a Why and a How to a thing.

Jesus Christ He came for us sinners and the lost sheep.

well, we are waiting for him.

moreover, have you interacted with God? What was d outcome?

#as copied

One day a local evangelist bragged during a crusade that his God was more able than all the other gods in the town and the powers of the universe that the villagers worshiped put together. Just then, rainstorm sounds started sounding overhead, threatening the progress of the crusade. The evangelist lifted up his voice and declared with confidence that if the rains fell, then he wasn't a man of God; he would stop preaching!
Before he could finish his bluff, the rains began to hit the crusade grounds so vehemently, apparently in disregard to his declarations. The whole town left the crusade grounds to their houses, shaking their heads in disappointment and dismay.
The evangelist, so distraught and angry, packed his belongings and left the town the next day. On his way through the next town, he checked into a local drinking spot and drank himself to stupor. As he laid on the ground cursing God, an old seedy looking man tapped him gently on the shoulder.

"Man of God", the old man began. But the evangelist quickly cut in, "don't mention the name of God to me. He is fake. He is unreliable. I am no longer a believer in this God. A God who chooses to disgrace his servants. Leave me alone!"
But the old man would not let him be. He continued,"I am the fetish priest in the village you just preached at. During your one week stay in that village, you destroyed all the charms i had made on the people for 45 years. Your prayers and your words always came with some fearful fire and power. I tried so many times to eliminate you but i couldn't. My last chance came yesterday. I had loaded my gun with gun powder lying wait on the mountaintop where i had a very clear view of you. My plan was to shoot you from a distance since i couldn't get close enough to you due to the fire around you. But just when i lifted the gun, the rains came from nowhere, wetting my gunpowder and covering you in a cloud so that i couldn't even see you. All i saw was a bright man holding a sword in front of you. I was so terrified. I concluded that your God was indeed all powerful and Almighty. That is why i've been looking for you since then. I want to follow this your God!"
The ex-evangelist bowed his head in shame!

Dear friends, sometimes, it is just wise for us to believe that our Father knows the way He is taking us. We should just trust His leading. Let our boast be in the Lord, not in ourselves. If we decree a thing and it doesn't happen, let us not see it as disappointment or dishonor from the Father. Let us just believe that the Father wants his perfect will to be done in all things.

Blackfire:



what if i like the mango tree? Besides u can only stone me once, after which i unleash my own stone throwing.

If you like the mango tree then be ready to be stoned.

frank317:


nice write up but....

I also think these religious book are flawed and can't be instructions from the creator of this universe. I like the way you described how you think everything was perfectly put in place even in space.

But why do you think this creator needs to be worshiped? I think the desriee for worship or the act of worship is a human thing. How did you come to know that this creator needs wirhip just like humans? Did the creator tell you this? What do you think he needs the worship for? His ego? Pride?

If the creator perfectly put things in place in space as u described, why didn't he make man as organized. Why is he watching man kill each other and destroy the earth?

Again... Why do you think this creator needs worship?

The creator gave us conscience to discern good from bad. There are set rules in all religion of the world about orderliness and good conduct. It doesn't stop man from being selfish.
Man was created with flaws in my opinion though. We are selfish and competitive in nature.
If we are to strictly follow any religious beliefs, then nobody would be saved.
What do you think the purpose of creating man with intelligence Is? The creator made us for His pleasure. For us to glorify and worship Him. It's the fact. It sounds egoist but that's the unclad truth and there is nothing anyone can do about it.
We weren't created to live eat, merry and just die off into oblivion. What sense is in that? Why would a creator bother with creating humans just for them to come do as they pleases and die.
We won't be different from lower animals who aren't given much intelligence and with nothing expected from them. It's the reason they are at the same level they were billions of years ago while we were created at the same period and why they are under us.
You are given intelligence to ponder, and yes, be awed and appreciate nature.
We are created for His pleasure. Live with it. HE does as he wishes and is not accountable to us.
Same way he create some in a wealthy homes or better countries and others in not so desirable place.
When things was tough for me and I felt disappointed with the creator, I made some condemning comments in rebellion and before that day was over, I experienced far worse than I bargained for but was fortunately saved.
You think you know what misery is or disappointment, if the creator really intends purposely to make life miserable for you, dem no go teach you to be looking for God everywhere.
In all, the creator deeply cares about humanity even though I wonder why he cares for our opinion of Him and seem to give man special recognition.
If you have slight idea how inconsequential we are in the scheme of things or how microscopically minute we are in relation to the universe, then you will appreciate better.

earthrealm:

#as copied

One day a local evangelist bragged during a crusade that his God was more able than all the other gods in the town and the powers of the universe that the villagers worshiped put together. Just then, rainstorm sounds started sounding overhead, threatening the progress of the crusade. The evangelist lifted up his voice and declared with confidence that if the rains fell, then he wasn't a man of God; he would stop preaching!
Before he could finish his bluff, the rains began to hit the crusade grounds so vehemently, apparently in disregard to his declarations. The whole town left the crusade grounds to their houses, shaking their heads in disappointment and dismay.
The evangelist, so distraught and angry, packed his belongings and left the town the next day. On his way through the next town, he checked into a local drinking spot and drank himself to stupor. As he laid on the ground cursing God, an old seedy looking man tapped him gently on the shoulder.

"Man of God", the old man began. But the evangelist quickly cut in, "don't mention the name of God to me. He is fake. He is unreliable. I am no longer a believer in this God. A God who chooses to disgrace his servants. Leave me alone!"
But the old man would not let him be. He continued,"I am the fetish priest in the village you just preached at. During your one week stay in that village, you destroyed all the charms i had made on the people for 45 years. Your prayers and your words always came with some fearful fire and power. I tried so many times to eliminate you but i couldn't. My last chance came yesterday. I had loaded my gun with gun powder lying wait on the mountaintop where i had a very clear view of you. My plan was to shoot you from a distance since i couldn't get close enough to you due to the fire around you. But just when i lifted the gun, the rains came from nowhere, wetting my gunpowder and covering you in a cloud so that i couldn't even see you. All i saw was a bright man holding a sword in front of you. I was so terrified. I concluded that your God was indeed all powerful and Almighty. That is why i've been looking for you since then. I want to follow this your God!"
The ex-evangelist bowed his head in shame!

Dear friends, sometimes, it is just wise for us to believe that our Father knows the way He is taking us. We should just trust His leading. Let our boast be in the Lord, not in ourselves. If we decree a thing and it doesn't happen, let us not see it as disappointment or dishonor from the Father. Let us just believe that the Father wants his perfect will to be done in all things.

An appealing story man.

But I can make up ten more like that if you want to use it on gullible people.

earthrealm:

#as copied

One day a local evangelist bragged during a crusade that his God was more able than all the other gods in the town and the powers of the universe that the villagers worshiped put together. Just then, rainstorm sounds started sounding overhead, threatening the progress of the crusade. The evangelist lifted up his voice and declared with confidence that if the rains fell, then he wasn't a man of God; he would stop preaching!
Before he could finish his bluff, the rains began to hit the crusade grounds so vehemently, apparently in disregard to his declarations. The whole town left the crusade grounds to their houses, shaking their heads in disappointment and dismay.
The evangelist, so distraught and angry, packed his belongings and left the town the next day. On his way through the next town, he checked into a local drinking spot and drank himself to stupor. As he laid on the ground cursing God, an old seedy looking man tapped him gently on the shoulder.

"Man of God", the old man began. But the evangelist quickly cut in, "don't mention the name of God to me. He is fake. He is unreliable. I am no longer a believer in this God. A God who chooses to disgrace his servants. Leave me alone!"
But the old man would not let him be. He continued,"I am the fetish priest in the village you just preached at. During your one week stay in that village, you destroyed all the charms i had made on the people for 45 years. Your prayers and your words always came with some fearful fire and power. I tried so many times to eliminate you but i couldn't. My last chance came yesterday. I had loaded my gun with gun powder lying wait on the mountaintop where i had a very clear view of you. My plan was to shoot you from a distance since i couldn't get close enough to you due to the fire around you. But just when i lifted the gun, the rains came from nowhere, wetting my gunpowder and covering you in a cloud so that i couldn't even see you. All i saw was a bright man holding a sword in front of you. I was so terrified. I concluded that your God was indeed all powerful and Almighty. That is why i've been looking for you since then. I want to follow this your God!"
The ex-evangelist bowed his head in shame!

Dear friends, sometimes, it is just wise for us to believe that our Father knows the way He is taking us. We should just trust His leading. Let our boast be in the Lord, not in ourselves. If we decree a thing and it doesn't happen, let us not see it as disappointment or dishonor from the Father. Let us just believe that the Father wants his perfect will to be done in all things.

These are stories that excite illiterates. You have no idea the amount of lies keeping christianity afloat. And don't forget EVERY religion has enough of such stories to support the supremacy of their religion. Even olumba olumba that is an ordinary man but claims to be god has lots of such stories to keep his gullible followers. Grow up, grow wise.

analice107:
If you like the mango tree then be ready to be stoned.

hmmm... *in deep thought*. What if this mango i.. *in deep thought again*

Blackfire:


hmmm... *in deep thought*. What if this mango i.. *in deep thought again*

Think really deep.

gbadexy:

The creator gave us conscience to discern good from bad. There are set rules in all religion of the world about orderliness and good conduct. It doesn't stop man from being selfish.
Man was created with flaws in my opinion though. We are selfish and competitive in nature.
If we are to strictly follow any religious beliefs, then nobody would be saved.
What do you think the purpose of creating man with intelligence Is? The creator made us for His pleasure. For us to glorify and worship Him. It's the fact. It sounds egoist but that's the unclad truth and there is nothing anyone can do about it.
We weren't created to live eat, merry and just die off into oblivion. What sense is in that? Why would a creator bother with creating humans just for them to come do as they pleases and die.
We won't be different from lower animals who aren't given much intelligence and with nothing expected from them. It's the reason they are at the same level they were billions of years ago while we were created at the same period and why they are under us.
You are given intelligence to ponder, and yes, be awed and appreciate nature.
We are created for His pleasure. Live with it. HE does as he wishes and is not accountable to us.
Same way he create some in a wealthy homes or better countries and others in not so desirable place.
When things was tough for me and I felt disappointed with the creator, I made some condemning comments in rebellion and before that day was over, I experienced far worse than I bargained for but was fortunately saved.
You think you know what misery is or disappointment, if the creator really intends purposely to make life miserable for you, dem no go teach you to be looking for God everywhere.
In all, the creator deeply cares about humanity even though I wonder why he cares for our opinion of Him and seem to give man special recognition.
If you have slight idea how inconsequential we are in the scheme of things or how microscopically minute we are in relation to the universe, then you will appreciate better.

That last point is exactly why an unproven and apparently confused creator could not have made and taken special attention in a species of apes. Its pretentious on our part as a species to assume so.

And why would anyone worship a god who wants to be praised all the time? Isn't that a petty god?

analice107:
Think really deep.

i sent u a PM

Blackfire:


i sent u a PM

Ok

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urahara:

Mutilation or maiming is an act of physical injury that degrades the appearance or function of any living body.

Courtesy. Wikipedia


Or also amputating.


I am the one who needs a good dictionary

OK you. Won . According to English dictionary. But I gave you the scripture that speak for the Bible use here . Jesus refered to it as to cut off.. but whatever other meanings the word has .still reefers to the body as being mutilated . The question still remains . Can mutilated body part ,cut off or wounded body part be restored through fake manipulation .can manipulation make body part grow or mend physically? To the glare of others .

Updates on the new thread.
www.nairaland.com/3085047/part-2-pastor-atheist-why#45297254

Joagbaje:

OK you. Won . According to English dictionary. But I gave you the scripture that speak for the Bible use here . Jesus refered to it as to cut off.. but whatever other meanings the word has .still reefers to the body as being mutilated . The question still remains . Can mutilated body part ,cut off or wounded body part be restored through fake manipulation .can manipulation make body part grow or mend physically? To the glare of others .

If u think ur pastors can make amputated limbs grow then u most be a joker. Church ushers sef go drive am comot.

HardMirror:

Malaria, headache, pains of different categories etc. And at a time I believed a dumb kid regained ability to speak after I and a brother prayed for him.
But I know better now.
Yes my case is not new. Who talked about it being new? Everyday people are gradually realizing that god takes glory for things he did not do while actually he has never done anything. Seen many cases of people who are still christian but now know only their effort matters and they should not expect anything from god.

Would you care to elaborate on the bolded?

Ranchhoddas:
No.It's good.You are very smart.Is your surname Einstein?

Unreasonable fellow

JustStardust:


That last point is exactly why an unproven and apparently confused creator could not have made and taken special attention in a species of apes. Its pretentious on our part as a species to assume so.

And why would anyone worship a god who wants to be praised all the time? Isn't that a petty god?

The Caucasians are more organised.
In any case, I can't hold brief for God. You will have to ask Him why He does what he does if you happen to meet him.

francis247:
Would you care to elaborate on the bolded?

Read updates here for the story of the dumb boy I prayed for and spoke.
www.nairaland.com/3085047/part-2-pastor-atheist-why#45300895