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Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by Almaiga: 9:09am On Jun 05, 2016

Good thinking FG, we expect more good news in respect to the recovery of the looted funds by GEJ's yam eaters.

Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by klassicview: 9:10am On Jun 05, 2016

They are all Northerners.

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Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by onatisi(m): 9:12am On Jun 05, 2016

dongeorgio:
Ok! Can invoke my freedom of information right to know who the "thieves of state "are?
Me thinks that after all said and done it still relevant that we figure out a way to discourage future stealing from our "commonwealth".A form name and shame with dire consequences should be entrenched in our polity to discourage anyone with such intention.infact cut off the person forever from profiteering from government patronage as well as in the private realm.something must have to go for it.It just shouldn't be a walk in the park for looters of public treasury anymore.I rest my case

The reasons given by the FG is tenable and sensible. What do u need the names of the people who returned the money for? I believe the FG has set its priority right,instead of going in for vendetta,the FG has decided to rather pursue the money rather than people. Good move

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Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by Carlmax(m): 9:12am On Jun 05, 2016

The people that are currently prosecuted, were they offered the same deal?

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Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by Reference(m): 9:13am On Jun 05, 2016

This is the catch 22 situation, the quaqmire Nigeria is locked in, the shackles of corruption from which we CANNOT break free from. Buhari is President today because of corruption, the corrupt paved the way so he cannot possibly act or react, i.e bite the proverbial fingers that fed him. Without that he cannot clean the stable thoroughly and this imbalance torpedoes the whole system leading the government to 'bargain' instead of imposing the law without fear or favour. Do that and the whole government falls.

The second problem is obvious. When you go hard on officials in Africa, instead of a better outcome you only make matters worse. They hide the misdeeds deeper as is happening now, scheming becomes more sophisticated and undetectable and at the far end of the scale the government becomes intransigent, unwilling to relinquish power and influencing the electoral process to cover its tracks. Let us see what will happen in 2019. What is clear, history is not kind to Nigeria in this respect concerning the entire polity, this type of government and this president, not because of his personality or the circumstances but the society which we have built for ourselves.

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Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by amtaken(f): 9:15am On Jun 05, 2016

Because of OBJ, Abdusalami and IBB kwo?

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Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by Reference(m): 9:15am On Jun 05, 2016

Carlmax:

The people that are currently prosecuted, were they offered the same deal?

Those are hung out to dry because they oppose the government openly.Those that have kept quiet and supported the government are now free and some are even advisers and appointees.

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Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by kinstinct(m): 9:17am On Jun 05, 2016

Carlmax:

The people that are currently prosecuted, were they offered the same deal?

In this case, the offer comes from the thief. So the i would ask is - Did the people being prosecuted made any offers?

Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by ayindejimmy(m): 9:21am On Jun 05, 2016

Nicur:
Let's be honest here, so what proof does FG have that they really recovered the loot? do we believe them like that as we all know the reputation of this Government and with lie sorry Lai Mohammed involved? how do we know they are not making things up knowing that this Government still behaves like it's campaigning? did Buhari not say that he will name the looters? So if I steal and return am a free man and no crime committed?

Please, try and understand the issues here. You're getting it twisted.

Some of those people returning money did embezzle the money directly. I'm sure some of your family members or friends must have been generous to you b4, if it now turns out they made their money from illegal ways and the law asked you to return whatever you've collected from them. Would you want to be put in the same category as the real thief.

It's rather too early to start mentioning names. Let's wait and see first

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Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by Nobody: 9:23am On Jun 05, 2016

With more than 3trn naira "interim forfeiture" reported in this interim report and the over 1trn recovered by the TSA, it's safe to say the country needs to to borrow to fund this year's budget, it also implies the FG now has the financial capability to implement 90% of the budget, & Lai no longer needs to yearn about Nigeria being broke. Figures is useless to the average citizen, we judge based on what would be put on ground in the coming months.

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Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by kadunasouth(m): 9:23am On Jun 05, 2016

Haw could I believe this the comon least money NYSC need to mobilise them for service, Govt can not But every day news of recovery more Money, I am supporter of APC but to yarn fact am begin loosing confidence in them, figure without effect manifestation

Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by olaolaking: 9:26am On Jun 05, 2016

The FG have a good reason. I agree that not everybody that returns money is guilty. However, it can also be assumed that the figures are cook up. The

Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by JW214: 9:35am On Jun 05, 2016

"Secondly, many of those who returned the money are not necessarily guilty. For instance, if my party gave me money to go and campaign in an election, how am I to know that that money was from an illicit source?"

If FFK and the likes have good lawyers, this might be a punchline against FG... Or have I been seeing too much of Nollywood?

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Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by chrisskynet(m): 9:38am On Jun 05, 2016

[quote author=Ayindesegun10 post=46287862]This government is a joke, they did not even understand themselves. Always contradicting their statements. [/quote

Neva seen a confused government dan dis b4..

Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by Nobody: 9:39am On Jun 05, 2016

"What we want is the money, not the names"

If that is true then let's all call a spade a spade and stop pretending that this Government is fighting corruption. They are simply on a fund raising expedition. This ridiculous method does nothing to stem corruption. How do you not prosecute thieves? How can you agree to terms where the thieves return some of the money they stole in secret and then let them quietly walk away unscathed? If you aren't yourself corrupt and culpable. How do we even know that the figures disclosed aren't the residual amounts left to appease the crowd after redistributing the loot?

They talk about shielding "guiltless" people from whom ill-gotten funds were recovered, Isn't this just laughable? If it is established that the funds were ill-gotten then that person is guilty and should not be protected by any well-meaning Government. And in cases where, like he mentions, a newspaper is paid for a service it has rendered with money that is not honestly obtained by the patron, the Newspaper is NOT liable in any way and should not be made to return such money. That amounts to intimidation, harassment and robbery. The thief who stole the money and spent the money should simply be arrested and prosecuted. You can't be chasing down vendors of clothes, luxury items and services a thief buys with stolen cash and ask them to return the money. What is that?

Disregard for the rule of law.

And while they are working hard to shield the "small fish" in order to win their co-operation because the country dearly needs money, the culprits who allegedly have even bigger amounts to "contribute" to our collection box have already been called by name. Given that the money is what is needed so urgently, couldn't the "Privacy+Pardon = A fraction of the loot" formula have been applied to them as well. We are still waiting for GEJ and Madueke to make their donations - here are the ones that have been indicted in the media for over a year now without proof. And they say they want to avoid defamation suits? And Dokpesi too, was such a " guiltless" media man as Lai Mohammed describes who did nothing wrong but render a service which was paid for with stolen money. Did he enjoy the anonymity that is being extended to others?

This selective shielding can not be excused. It can be explained by a number of conspiracy theories but, definitely, not excused. This Government is bleeding its integrity into the gutters.

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Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by WOCKHARDI(m): 9:40am On Jun 05, 2016

So, from all the above ' good ' reasons, what are the criteria for selecting those ' looters ' whose names should be made public ( some are already being accused publicly) , and those that shouldn't. Because it is now obvious that there are many other Olisa Metus who are being shielded from being embarrassed. Metu's family has even agreed to refund all money he was accused of collecting but the presidency has not heard about that plea. How is his own case different?
Why not tell Nigerians categorically that this arrangement is for the members of the ruling party and their supporters.

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Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by jamace(m): 9:52am On Jun 05, 2016

tumbez:
despite oll dis explanation still u didn't understand
..chaiiii nawoooo

You can buy that lie, not me!

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Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by ShowYourCertificate: 9:55am On Jun 05, 2016

989900:

The CBN, EFCC, and office of the presidency are all government institutions; no one owns them, they would not be there forever, so why would anyone want to claim he has recovered monies they have not . . . who does that?

OTOH, this article already explained the last part you raised.

How can we verify the veracity of this news of loots recovered? It would have been easier to determine the veracity if the looters were mentioned.

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Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by viktor01(m): 9:55am On Jun 05, 2016

Hmmmm.
Let's paint a picture here. This is like a case of a child walking with his friends and threw his money forward without his friends knowing and then rush to pick it just to convince his friends that he actually found money on the ground.
FG......
I laugh in Swahili......

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Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by themanderon: 9:57am On Jun 05, 2016

The only reason why they will not release any names is because they know they are going to be guilty of the same thing tomorrow so they have to give a soft landing to the thieves so that the same can be done to them in future. The truth is that we will never be free from the clutches of these cowboys in government. To your tent oh Israel abi na Naija.

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Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by 989900: 10:05am On Jun 05, 2016

ShowYourCertificate:
How can we verify the veracity of this news of loots recovered? It would have been easier to determine the veracity if the looters were mentioned.

There is a record.

Not published publicly, does not mean there is no record.

Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by Nobody: 10:05am On Jun 05, 2016

at least we know some people returned money. eg Raymond dokpesi, thisday newspaper

Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by kan12(m): 10:15am On Jun 05, 2016

false govt.based on falsehood.

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Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by feldeno: 10:20am On Jun 05, 2016

Nicur:
Let's be honest here, so what proof does FG have that they really recovered the loot? do we believe them like that as we all know the reputation of this Government and with lie sorry Lai Mohammed involved? how do we know they are not making things up knowing that this Government still behaves like it's campaigning? did Buhari not say that he will name the looters? So if I steal and return am a free man and no crime committed?

its amnesty for looters.

Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by ShowYourCertificate: 10:22am On Jun 05, 2016

989900:

There is a record.

Not published publicly, does not mean there is no record.

How did you know?

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Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by 36STATES: 10:30am On Jun 05, 2016

This is exactly the same as his asset declaration people with too much holes that a train can pass through it.
Whenever the pressure becomes too much the dullard
comes up with something that leaves people even more confused.

You must be a fool to believe that trash from Liar Mohammed.

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Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by Olaone1: 10:31am On Jun 05, 2016

989900:

Exactly my thoughts the other time when I said not releasing the names might not actually be a bad thing.

Obasanjo, GEJ and some other people from both APC, and PDP returned monies . . . some had terms for returning the monies.

In the states and some other countries for example, we have plea bargain/restitution even when you go to court. If you can achieve that without legal fees and time wasting -- the better.

We've been st00pid enough from the past to allow every D!ck, Tom, and Harry have unrestricted/unaccountable access to gov't accounts, in flagrant contradiction to the constitution.

I hope the TSA,BVN,IPPIS, and other templates degrade such gross level of malfeasance and perfidy.

smh,
You are a very funny man. Be a man of conscience and stop justifying shiiit

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Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by Olaone1: 10:32am On Jun 05, 2016

989900:

Exactly my thoughts the other time when I said not releasing the names might not actually be a bad thing.

Obasanjo, GEJ and some other people from both APC, and PDP returned monies . . . some had terms for returning the monies.

In the states and some other countries for example, we have plea bargain/restitution even when you go to court. If you can achieve that without legal fees and time wasting -- the better.

We've been st00pid enough from the past to allow every D!ck, Tom, and Harry have unrestricted/unaccountable access to gov't accounts, in flagrant contradiction to the constitution.

I hope the TSA,BVN,IPPIS, and other templates degrade such gross level of malfeasance and perfidy.

Just read your own comment again. But, slowly, this time undecided

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Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by djkirkoo2(m): 10:33am On Jun 05, 2016

989900:

Exactly my thoughts the other time when I said not releasing the names might not actually be a bad thing.

Obasanjo, GEJ and some other people from both APC, and PDP returned monies . . . some had terms for returning the monies.

In the states and some other countries for example, we have plea bargain/restitution even when you go to court. If you can achieve that without legal fees and time wasting -- the better.

We've been st00pid enough from the past to allow every D!ck, Tom, and Harry have unrestricted/unaccountable access to gov't accounts, in flagrant contradiction to the constitution.

I hope the TSA,BVN,IPPIS, and other templates degrade such gross level of malfeasance and perfidy.

Just clap for yourself and keep deceiving yourselves these APC supporters.

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Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by Olaone1: 10:33am On Jun 05, 2016

PassingShot:

Guy, is it remotely possible you accept you have my money with you without me giving you any money?

Please use common sense nah.

Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by banmee(m): 10:35am On Jun 05, 2016

jamace:
If the FG can not name the looters, then it should not tell the world about the loots because the world will see ALL Nigerians as looters!

You'll be surprised how many people don't care about the identities of the criminals. All they care about is "recovering" the funds forgetting that all the government has done is leave room for more corrupt practices. The only people who should benefit from hidden identities are children and minors.

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Re: Recovered Loot: Why FG Did Not Name Looters —presidency by Olaone1: 10:35am On Jun 05, 2016

APC and lies. They recovered money truly but not up to one-fourth of what they claimed they recovered. That's why they can't release names.

Liars undecided

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