[quote author=dolphinheart post=45834160][b] rev 1:4(ESV) John to the seven churches that are in Asia:
Grace to you and peace from him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven spirits who are before his throne

actually, I'm supposed to quote from verse 4-6, I'll do that next, but I specifically quoted verse 4, just to bring out some interesting things said by brocab and solite3 on these verse.

WHAT DO WE LEARN FROM THESE VERSE?( brocab and solite3 can respond if what I learned are wrong .
1. John was sending his greeting from (1) the one who is, and who was, and who is to come ( the identity of these one will be revealed later ) and (2) the seven spirits
2. The greetings are from two distinct sources , the one who is, who was, and who is to come, is not the same person as the seven spirits who are before His throne.

NOW LETS SEE SOME OF BROCABS AND SOLITE3 POSTS CONNECT ING THESE VERSE
*readers can cross check if I quoted them correctly or wrongly

take note of part of what brocab said on April 22, 11:54pm(this can be found on page 40 of these thread



part of what brocab said oh april 30, 3:41am( this can be found on page 40 of these thread)


part of what brocab said on may 8 , 10:26pm(this can be found on page 41)


Now see what solite3 said on may 6 9:55.(This can be found on page 45)



brocab and solite3, who should we now believe between the two of you
brocab: the one who is, who was and who is to come is jesus
solite3: the one who is, who was and who is to come refers to the father.

This brings about the question(PLS EVERYONE SHOULD OBSERVE IF BROCAB AND SOLITE3 WILL ANSWER THESE)

1. is jesus the same person as the father?

Jesus is not same person as the father but they are one God .

2. If not , how can both now be the one who is, who was and who is coming?

because both are one God

while we wait for these answers, I'll move on to quote and explain my views on rev 1:4-6

do you see yourself dolpins
dolphinsheart I have answered your question you answer mine.

Jozzy4:



there is one GOD, THE FATHER ...... NOT TRINITY . shame on you liars

but trinitarians have proved their point from the bible na

Jozzy4:


let me open ur thinking faculty bro , the FATHER IS A SPIRIT AND HE IS NEVER CALLED AN IT again can THE pronoun it be used for a person ?

but it can be used for babies or animals

Jozzy4:


for by him ..... that statement reveal he is NOT THE SOURCE but medium through which all things are created . only the source reserves the title of a CREATOR . Again JESUS IS NEVER CALLED CREATOR , HE himself acknowledge the FATHER AS CREATOR ( MATT 19:4-6)

Jesus is God Jehovah who created all things. Deal with it

You have tried to answer Revelation who is, but you haven't answered {Acts 1:10-11} and why does it say Jesus is coming back in the clouds, and not the Father?
I find your teachings are out of wack from the actual JW teachings. C.T. Russell had even admitted Jesus is the Almighty, and you still refuse to follow after his teachings, Why is that? How does one refuse to listen to some of Russell's teachings' and not the other?
I only write back to you dolphinheart because I know your blood presser is on the raise, and you know every scripture is given to you is the truth about Christ, and you can't seem to shake it off you quick enough, so you lower yourself to the point of lying in public, and denying Christ in the makings, denying His Word, calling the KJV bible a lie-{John 10:30}-Quote the bold is a lie it never said so.
Believing in your own words and not the word of God shows your heart is seared with a hot iron.
{1 Timothy 14:27-29} Some teaching come through hypocritical lairs Having your conscience seared with a hot iron.

{Hebrews 1:2-5} Hath spoken unto us by His Son, whom He had appointed heir, of all things, by whom also He made the worlds.
Who being the the brightness of His glory, and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had Himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the majesty on high.
Being made so much better then the angels, as He have by inheritance obtained a more excellent name then they.
For unto which of the angels said He at anytime Thou art My Son this day I have begotten the? And again, I will be to Him a Father, and he shall be to Me a Son.
After doing a little research I am not expecting you to agree with me, nor the writer, matter of fact like always I am expecting the worst from you. Firstly I am waiting for you to reject my studies once again on any truths that is written about the word of God.

Chapter "1"{Hebrews 1:1-3}
God spoke to His ancient people at sundry times, through successive generations, and in divers manners, as He though proper, sometimes by personal directions, sometimes by dreams, sometimes by visions, sometimes by divine influences on the minds of the prophets.
The gospel revelation is excellent above the former; in that it is a revelation which God had made by His Son. In beholding the power, wisdom and goodness of the Lord Jesus Christ, behold the power, wisdom and goodness of His Father {John 14:7} the fullness of the Godhead dwells, not typically, or in a figure, but really in Him. When, on the fall of man the world was breaking to pieces, under the wrath and the curse of God, the Son of God undertaking the work of redemption, sustained by His Almighty power and goodness. From the glory of the person and office of Christ, we proceed to the glory of His grace. The glory of His person and nature, gave to His sufferings such merit as was a full satisfaction to the honour of God, who suffered and infinite injury and affront by the sins of men.

I am not expecting you read any further about {Hebrews 1:4-14}
Many Jews had a superstitious or Idolatrous respect for angels, because they had received the law and other tidings of the divine by their ministry. They looked upon them as mediators God and Men, and some went so far as to pay them a kind of religious homage or worship.

Thus it was necessary that the people should insist, not only on Christ's being the creator of all things, and therefore of angels themselves, but as being risen and exalted Messiah in human nature, to whom angels, authorities, and powers are made subject.
To prove this 'several passages are brought from the old Testament, comparing what God says about the angels, with what He say's to Christ, the inferiority of the angels to Christ plainly appears. Hear is the office of the angels; they are God's ministers and servants, to do His pleasure.
But, how much greater things are said about Christ, by the Father. And let us own and honour Him as God, for He had not been God, He had never done the mediators work, and never worn the Mediators grown. It is declared how Christ was qualified of the office of Mediator. He has the name Messiah from being anointed, and as anointed with the Holy Spirit, He is above all prophets, priest and Kings, that ever were employed in the service by God on earth.
{Psalms 25, 27} The Almighty power of the Lord is declared, both in creating the world and changing it. Christ will fold up this world as a garment, not to abused any-longer, not to be used as it has been.
The end.
No wonder you didn't add these two verses {Hebrews 1:4-5} to your collection, these were the hidden gems.
Jesus was made much better then the angels, meaning to say Jesus is not one of the archangels, One of your teachings the JW's had written.

dolphinheart:

EVERYONE CAN SEE YOUR DECEPTIVE TACTICS, YOU LEAVE THE POST DIRECTED TO YOU AND QUOTE THE POST DIRECTED TO OTHERS, SAME TACTICS USED BY THE OTHERS PERSON. AND EVEN WHEN YOU QUOTE THE POST YOU FAIL TO RESPOND TO THE ISSUES, QUESTIONS AND SCRIPTURES FOUND THEIR.
well ,since the post posted to you has exposed your false doctrine, the best next thing is to leave it alone, cus quoting it will only expose you further!


there are no twists, large or small.


I've used the scriptures to Identify to you him who is who was and who is coming, you could not refute what I showed you, neither could you qoute and explain those scriptures I used.


sir, the scriptures say no one has seen God at any time, but people saw Jesus, therefore Jesus is not the God no one has seen at anytime.
If you had taken time to read that verse to the end , you would have noticed that Jesus is not the God who was being mentioned their.
try to quote that verse fully next time, it will help.



hope you have read heb 1:1,2, read it and learn!


the bold is a lie!, the verse never said so!

What evidence, the one based on wrong understanding of what jesus said?
Jesus did not lie, it's you that is lying againSt jesus, calling him what he did not call himself
did Jesus call himself God ? no ! he said

Joh 10:36[u]do you say to me whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world,[/u] ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?[/u]

YOU REFUSED TO FOLLOW WHAT JESUS CALLED HIMSELF, WHO THE ANGEL TOLD MARY THAT JESUS IS, YOU REFUSED TO FOLLOW WHAT JESUS SAID ABOUT THE FATHER, YOU PREFER CALLING JESUS THE FATHER!

[b]Joh 5:20[u]For the Father has affection for the Son and shows him all the things he himself does,[/u] and he will show him works greater than these, so that you may marvel.

Joh 14:28You heard that I said to you, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I am.

Joh 10:25Jesus answered them: “I told you, and yet you do not believe. The works that I am doing in my Father’s name, these bear witness about me.

YOU PREFER TO BELIEVE THE PHARISEES, CUS THEIR BELIEVES RHYMES WITH YOURS, YOU REFUSED TO LISTEN TO WHAT JESUS SAID ABOUT THAT BELIEVE

Joh 5:46In fact, if you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me.

what did Moses write about Jesus, did he say Jesus is God?no , did he say God himself is the one coming? no .

Moses said:

De 18:15Jehovah your God will raise up for you from among your brothers a prophet like me. You must listen to him.

Lu 24:44He then said to them: “These are my words that I spoke to you while I was yet with you, that all the things written about me in the Law of Moses and in the Prophets and Psalms must be fulfilled.”

Joh 1:45Philip found Na·thanʹa·el and said to him: “We have found the one of whom Moses, in the Law, and the Prophets wrote: Jesus, the son of Joseph, from Nazʹa·reth.”


you are a liar brocab, no wonder you could not quote where I made such description.
you refused to quote that verse, probably because quoting it will prevent you from twisting it. The previous verse has clarified who god is
King James Version
Col 1:3We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you,



stop lying againSt me brocab!


you are a liar brocab , the lies has eating deep into you. This is what I said :

the verse (rev 1: is talking about God, the Father, the almighty, the most high! and below is what the verse said :
New International Version
"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty."

English Standard Version
“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

BROCAB, YOU HAVE PERFECTED THE ACT OF NOT QUOTING MY POSTS SO THAT YOU CAN BE ABLE TO LIE, STATING THAT I SAID AND BELIEVED THINGS I DID NOT SAY OR IMPLY.

THE ABOVE IS ONE OF THE REASONS YOU REFUSED TO RESPOND TO THE POSTS IN WHICH MY EXPLAINATIONS ON REV 1: 1,4-8 REV 3: 2:12 AND HEB 1:9 IS GIVING.



the scripture has told you the truth brocab, stop twisting it !

Here is my question to all Jehovah witness


Is Jesus a true God or a false god

Give me a clear and direct answer

Failure to do this will further exposed your satanic organisation. Now you deny your founder because he has been exposed.

You lie against Jesus and Jehovah by denying their word

You deny that Jesus is God but boldly affirm that Satan is a god, has these not exposed your masonic organisation.

You condem Christians but quickly join forces with Moslems, athesists, Satanists,and if possible even the devil himself against Christ and his followers

You say there is no hell fire but let me tell you hell fire is real, if you are perplex yes it should be the bible says the soul that sinneth shall die

Repent before it is too late. It doesn't pay to worship Satan repent, repent, repent before it is too late

Dolphinheart is always looking for an accuse, this is how I know he twist his own words.
He says one things and says another. [quote author=solite3 post=46426844][/quote]

brocab:
Dolphinheart is always looking for an accuse, this is how I know he twist his own words.
He says one things and says another.

yes very true.he himself is no longer persuaded by his own words but only trying to cover up

Jozzy4:



there is one GOD, THE FATHER ...... NOT TRINITY . shame on you liars

Lie Lie jozzy

false jw - false accuser

There is one God the Father.

The liar are those who don't believe the plethora of bible scriptures posted.

johnw74:


False jw jozzy, there is only one God the Father, and you left out the rest of the verse that shows that the Father and Jesus Christ are two persons in the one God, that of whom and by whom are all things:

1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Also:

the Father (theos) means: a diety, especially the supreme Divinity, God

one Lord Jesus Christ (kurios) means: supreme in authority, God

some will also know that there are many lord's,
but Jesus there is called "one" Lord Jesus Christ


Eph_4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

Or it could be said:
One God, one faith, one baptism, Lord and God in these verses both = God

Joh 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

Act 7:59 And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.


There is the father (theos God)

There is one Lord Jesus Christ (kurios God)




Lie Lie jozzy

See what false beliefs have done to you, Jesus is now the father to you. Na woo, even non Christians knows Jesus has a father and he is greater than him in position, continue

solite3:
Jesus is God Jehovah who created all things. Deal with it

Jozzy4:


let me open ur thinking faculty bro , the FATHER IS A SPIRIT AND HE IS NEVER CALLED AN IT again can THE pronoun it be used for a person ?

You are wrong yet again false jw, here is an imaginery occurence to show you that the pronoun "it" can be used for anyone including Father God:

When Jesus was Baptized the voice of Father God was heard from Heaven, saying: "this is my beloved Son"
Thomas said to Jesus: "Jesus, is that your Father? to which Jesus replied: yes "it" is.
However the Father God is not a "it" a thing, but a person, in fact the person of God.

Lie Lie jozzy

You are wrong in every single post to me in this thread, have a look bach through them, you don't believe the Bible scriptures posted, and you call others who post and believe the scriptures, liars.

Are there people more evil than that in the world

goodnews201668:
See what false beliefs have done to you, Jesus is now the father to you. Na woo, even non Christians knows Jesus has a father and he is greater than him in position, continue

solite said Jesus is God Jehovah,

solite did not say Jesus is the Father,

but false jw loves to lie and twist things around.

Jehovah is a name for "God" not a name for "Father"

And Christians know that Jehovah is God and the Word John 1:1

Father and Son are two persons, one God.

Go back and look at all the Bible verses posted showing that Jesus is Jehovah, that Jesus is God,
and then disbelieve all those scriptures like false jw do.

He picks and chooses what verses he likes to write from either the KJV or other bibles-while doing so he refuses to believe in any of the bibles he uses. And when he needs the answers he then uses his own bible, NWT bible to retrieve his so called answers. And because his bible has many twisted and missing scriptures, he confuses himself along with the rest of us, none of us can keep up with the times of dolphinheart's world.
When we look deeper into the mind of dolphinheart, I find there is a missing link, a sign of emptiness, when writing the scriptures down he seems not to finish each chapters, like in Hebrews he picks what sounds, but he doesn't finish each chapter to keep the sentence going.
{Hebrews 1:1-2} is the start of it-he should at least finish it with {V 3-5} which he chooses to leave out only because it go's against his religious beliefs, where God said which of the angels did He say this is My Son.
And the JW's do boast the archangel is Jesus in person..

solite3:
yes very true.he himself is no longer persuaded by his own words but only trying to cover up

goodnews201668:
See what false beliefs have done to you, Jesus is now the father to you. Na woo, even non Christians knows Jesus has a father and he is greater than him in position, continue

very good so believing the bible is a false belief. Have I ever said Jesus is the father? Like I said earlier why will you not prefer non Christian belief? Yes the father is greater in position but Jesus is fully God himself.

brocab:
He picks and chooses what verses he likes to write from either the KJV or other bibles-while doing so he refuses to believe in any of the bibles he uses. And when he needs the answers he then uses his own bible, NWT bible to retrieve his so called answers. And because his bible has many twisted and missing scriptures, he confuses himself along with the rest of us, none of us can keep up with the times of dolphinheart's world.
When we look deeper into the mind of dolphinheart, I find there is a missing link, a sign of emptiness, when writing the scriptures down he seems not to finish each chapters, like in Hebrews he picks what sounds, but he doesn't finish each chapter to keep the sentence going.
{Hebrews 1:1-2} is the start of it-he should at least finish it with {V 3-5} which he chooses to leave out only because it go's against his religious beliefs, where God said which of the angels did He say this is My Son.
And the JW's do boast the archangel is Jesus in person..

true u know it only takes the power of God for people like dphinsheart to be free from satanic heresies, imagine years of constant brain washing and programing. Like you said he keeps picking up some verses that seems to support his delusion while repeating those old questions, that is something I notice about them even in their magazine by so doing he hope to clear his mind of any doubt even without looking at the bible.

Do you know that just like every other cult they pick some few verses and hammer on them while ignoring others that screem out against them instead try to find a logical explanation to it

Your beliefs are false not the bible's teachings.

solite3:
very good so believing the bible is a false belief. Have I ever said Jesus is the father? Like I said earlier why will you not prefer non Christian belief? Yes the father is greater in position but Jesus is fully God himself.

Is Jehovah no longer the father? So Jesus is also Jehovah?
Keep wallowing in confusion

johnw74:



solite said Jesus is God Jehovah,

solite did not say Jesus is the Father,

but false jw loves to lie and twist things around.

Jehovah is a name for "God" not a name for "Father"

And Christians know that Jehovah is God and the Word John 1:1

Father and Son are two persons, one God.

Go back and look at all the Bible verses posted showing that Jesus is Jehovah, that Jesus is God,
and then disbelieve all those scriptures like false jw do.

goodnews201668:
Is Jehovah no longer the father?

I wrote that: "Christians know that Jehovah is God and the Word John 1:1"
and that: "Father and Son are two persons, one God"

but false jw loves to lie, it comes naturally to you.

goodnews201668:
So Jesus is also Jehovah?
Keep wallowing in confusion

Father and Son are two persons, one God.
Jehovah is God
God and the Word is God

talk about your confusion

You disbelieve all the bible verses posted showing that Jesus is Jehovah
if you don't want to go back and look at them, just ask and I will post them again.

and keep wallowing in your unbelief of the Bible.

johnw74:



solite said Jesus is God Jehovah,

solite did not say Jesus is the Father,

but false jw loves to lie and twist things around.

Jehovah is a name for "God" not a name for "Father"

And Christians know that Jehovah is God and the Word John 1:1

Father and Son are two persons, one God.

Go back and look at all the Bible verses posted showing that Jesus is Jehovah, that Jesus is God,
and then disbelieve all those scriptures like false jw do.

You are the one creating that impression, bible doesn't teach that Jesus is Jehovah. That's a lie, Jehovah's the father! Thank God you at least agreed Jesus is not the father, that's why you are confused sorry but its the fact

johnw74:


I wrote that: "Christians know that Jehovah is God and the Word John 1:1"
and that: "Father and Son are two persons, one God"

but false jw loves to lie, it comes naturally to you.




Father and Son are two persons, one God.
Jehovah is God
God and the Word is God

talk about your confusion

You disbelieve all the bible verses posted showing that Jesus is Jehovah
if you don't want to go back and look at them, just ask and I will post them again.

and keep wallowing in your unbelief of the Bible.

solite3:
very good so believing the bible is a false belief. Have I ever said Jesus is the father? Like I said earlier why will you not prefer non Christian belief? Yes the father is greater in position but Jesus is fully God himself.

goodnews201668:
Your beliefs are false not the bible's teachings.

What are you talking about, false jw doesn't believe the Bible.

false jw has a false jesus
false jw has a false bible
false jw doesn't know that "THE" "HOLY" "SPIRIT" is God.
everything about false jw is false

Mat_12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

ummm, better beware of these "it's" and things.

This your style is getting stale.

johnw74:








What are you talking about, false jw doesn't believe the Bible.

false jw has a false jesus
false jw has a false bible
false jw doesn't know that "THE" "HOLY" "SPIRIT" is God.
everything about false jw is false

Mat_12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

ummm, better beware of these "it's" and things.

goodnews201668:
You are the one creating that impression, bible doesn't teach that Jesus is Jehovah. That's a lie, Jehovah's the father! Thank God you at least agreed Jesus is not the father, that's why you are confused sorry but its the fact

false accuser,
like I said, talk about confusion, you are full of it

again:
Jehovah means God, Jehovah doesn't mean Father.

H3068

יְהֹוָה
yehôvâh
yeh-ho-vaw'
From H1961; (the) self Existent or eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God: - Jehovah, the Lord. Compare H3050, H3069.
Total KJV occurrences: 6521


And Jehovah is God and the Word John 1:1, although false jw cannot possibly understand God's truths,
and false jw doesn't believe the Bible.

;DConfused baby, very soon you will say that the holy spirit is now the father

johnw74:


false accuser,
like I said, talk about confusion, you are full of it

again:
Jehovah means God, Jehovah doesn't mean Father.

H3068

יְהֹוָה
yehôvâh
yeh-ho-vaw'
From H1961; (the) self Existent or eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God: - Jehovah, the Lord. Compare H3050, H3069.
Total KJV occurrences: 6521


And Jehovah is God and the Word John 1:1, although false jw cannot possibly understand God's truths,
and false jw doesn't believe the Bible.

johnw74:


false accuser,
like I said, talk about confusion, you are full of it

again:
Jehovah means God, Jehovah doesn't mean Father.

H3068

יְהֹוָה
yehôvâh
yeh-ho-vaw'
From H1961; (the) self Existent or eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God: - Jehovah, the Lord. Compare H3050, H3069.
Total KJV occurrences: 6521


And Jehovah is God and the Word John 1:1, although false jw cannot possibly understand God's truths,
and false jw doesn't believe the Bible.

goodnews201668:
This your style is getting stale.

The truth is stale to false jw, that's why they don't eat of it.

johnw74:








What are you talking about, false jw doesn't believe the Bible.

false jw has a false jesus
false jw has a false bible
false jw doesn't know that "THE" "HOLY" "SPIRIT" is God.
everything about false jw is false

Mat_12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

ummm, better beware of these "it's" and things.

johnw74:

The truth is stale to false jw, that's why they don't eat of it.

johnw74:

The truth is stale to false jw, that's why they don't eat of it.

a baby like you

goodnews201668:
;DConfused baby, very soon you will say that the holy spirit is now the father

Of course the Holy Spirit is God

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

johnw74:


Of course the Holy Spirit is God

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

johnw74:


Of course the Holy Spirit is God

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

first grade!

goodnews201668:
;DConfused baby, very soon you will say that the holy spirit is now the father

Of course the Holy Spirit is God - God and the Word, who else could this verse be referring to:

Mat_12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

So the holy spirit is now the father?
First grade like i said

johnw74:



Of course the Holy Spirit is God - God and the Word, who else could this verse be referring to:

Mat_12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

johnw74:



Of course the Holy Spirit is God - God and the Word, who else could this verse be referring to:

Mat_12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

goodnews201668:
So the holy spirit is now the father?
First grade like i said

Mat 10:19 But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.
Mat 10:20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.


Jesus shows that the Holy Spirit in His Apostles is the Spirit of His Father

goodnews201668:


a baby like you

goodnews201668:


first grade!

^^^
There is the very best of false jw gooknews

false jw don't believe the Bible and attempt to mock those who do, and who present their views with scriptures.

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

goodnews201668:
Your beliefs are false not the bible's teachings.

my belief is the bible. That's why I was able to prove it but you