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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Nobody: 5:01pm On Jul 05, 2016
honourhim:
@OP, I didnt see any thing in your write up that is strong enough to convince me to lose my faith in God. Nothing at all.

Talking about Cain and Abel, people in their generation lived up to nine hundred years and above so you cant look at their case with the eyes of our generation where people hardly live up to 80 years and above. Again you cant talk about incest in their own case when God had not made the law. Just like in tho old testament where divorce was permitted anyhow and people married as many wives as possible but when Jesus came he made adjustments to it.

What i'm saying is that nine hundred years is not ninety years so you cant draw conclusions on issues concerning that generation as if they are same with our generation.
in simple English the op simply evolved do you understand now ?
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Nobody: 5:41pm On Jul 05, 2016
joseph1013:


The New Thought Movement is scam. That was the movement that popularized Law of Attraction and The Secret. Contrary to what they teach, positive thinking alone does not heal you. It is a combination of many things that make the body healthy, including good diet and exercise. You are better off putting off smoking and cutting down on your intake of alcohol as well.

You should have a positive mental attitude to life, but that's not unique to the New Thought Movement. That advice dates back thousands of year before the movement came up.

Christian sects like Embassy scam people by claiming they can heal diseases like Cancers and AIDS. No proof. Or do you have proof?
Robert Collier mentally healed himself from a very chronic terminal disease & based on that, he wrote the popular 'the secret of the ages'.

Morris Goodman, 'The miracle man' also mentally brought himself out of a certified vegetable state.

What say you to those?
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 6:08pm On Jul 05, 2016
holamiday:
Robert Collier mentally healed himself from a very chronic terminal disease & based on that, he wrote the popular 'the secret of the ages'.

Morris Goodman, 'The miracle man' also mentally brought himself out of a certified vegetable state.

What say you to those?
[b]Dude, I may cease responding to you if you continue with unverified and outrightly baseless claims.

Robert Collier has no independent corroboration of his healing claims. I welcome you to produce them.

Morris Goodson indeed got his treatments in multiple hospitals.

"After initial treatment at a local hospital in bearby Nassawadox, Virginia Goodman was moved to Norfolk General in Norfolk, Virginia, where surgery was performed."

On April 6, 1981, Goodman was transferred to the University of Virginia Medical Center in Charlottesville, Virginia. After weeks of intense practice, voluntarily using other abdominal muscles, Goodman was able to take his first breath without the use of a machine. Doctors slowly reduced the settings on Goodman's ventilator until he was finally able to breathe on his own. Soon Goodman began working with speech therapists until he was able to utter a single word - 'Mama.' "

"On June 1, 1981 Goodman was moved to "The Towers" - a former rehabilitation center at UVA Medical Center where he began to eat, and began working on learning to walk again."

"On July 6, 1981, Goodman was admitted to the Woodrow Wilson Rehabilitation Center in Fishersville, Virginia. With physical therapy and occupational therapy, Goodman continued to work to improve his leg muscle strength and stamina until he could stand on his own. After several weeks, Goodman was able to walk unassisted, and was released on November 13, 1981."

Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_E._Goodman

Dude, please stop insulting my intelligence!
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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Nobody: 6:50pm On Jul 05, 2016
Look i'm here to ask questions, reason & learn, not to argue or compete. Therefore, cease responding whenever you please.

Now, don't you think Morris' entire state of mind played a major role in helping the entire therapy work? According to him, throughout his bedridden state, he strongly believed he was going to walk again.
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 2:28am On Jul 06, 2016
[b]HELD HOSTAGED BY ARCHAIC PRACTICES

Yesterday, the Federal government announced that the public holiday for the end of the Ramadan fasting has been extended to Thursday because Islamic clerics have said they cannot sight the moon, which is meant to signal the end of the month of Ramadan. It's 2016, people, yet our nation is held hostage by the sighting of the moon.

We could use a telescope but that's probably haram. We must depend on naked vision, never mind its questionable reliability in starved and dehydrated people.

We have several Christian and Muslim religious holidays but not a single one to recognise our traditional religions.

Our Christian brethren go to Jerusalem to pray to a wall whilst our Muslim brethren travel to Mecca to stone the devil - these pilgrimages having been heavily subsidised by our governments. But we refer to the religions of our forefathers as paganism, idolatry, satanism, or savagery.

This is the story of Nigerians (and Africans in general) in 2016!
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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 9:17pm On Jul 06, 2016
THE ONE THING NIGERIANS HATE

The one thing Nigerians hate most:
Gays

Their hatred for the above is unequaled and unites them all.

Northerners and Southerners.

Christians and Muslims.

They can put aside their political, ethnic and religious differences in their shared hatred for gays.

"It's unafrican!" They would scream. Never mind that majority of them are slaves to foreign religions that are equally "unafrican".

Corruption, poverty and ignorance that are rife in the land do not bother them as much as homosexuality. They can rally round and defend corrupt politicians who embezzled their Commonwealth, but would readily form a lynch mob to stone gays to death.

"Unity in Hatred For Gays" should be the national slogan.

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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by petra1(m): 10:42am On Jul 07, 2016
joseph1013:
[b]SOUTH AFRICA TAKES AN IMPORTANT STEP

South Africa’s Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) has banned the Christ Embassy church from airing its claims of faith healing following a complaint from the Treatment Action Campaign (TAC).

The Treatment Action Campaign (TAC) advocates for increased access to treatment, care and support services for people living with HIV and campaigns to reduce new HIV infections.

TAC spokesperson Nathan Geffen said on Thursday that the claims were aired during the church’s regular early morning slot on e.tv on Sundays.

He said the church claimed to use faith healing to treat several diseases, including heart disease, and had run adverts on its website claiming to treat HIV/Aids.

“Quackery of this nature is not merely misleading. It is life-destroying,” he said.

He said TAC knew of a woman infected with extreme drug resistant TB who stopped taking her medication because she believed the church had cured her, and died, after infecting her own children with the disease.

Geffen also criticised e.tv for continuing to run Christ Embassy programming even after it was alerted to TAC’s concerns.
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It's all lies and propaganda especially by envious Nigerian ministers . We read manner of such lies such as SOUTH AFRICA HAS BANNED PASTOR CHRIS OR ORDER HIS ARREST FOR THIS AND THAT . They are all propaganda .. It sold for a moment but got overtaken with truth. Members of the first family got healed . The president wrote personal letter to pastor chris .and one of the things he said was .THANK YOU FOR HEALING OUR NATION .

Firstly the First Lady is now a leader in CEC . She has been to Nigeria many times to attend partner conference . I'm sure she will be here again this year . The president of South Africa attends pastor chris programmes . He was in the last crusade . What more proof do we need .
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by petra1(m): 10:48am On Jul 07, 2016
kevoh:

@Joseph1013 seems this happened back in 2011 or so but still has more than enough juice to expose the dangers these so called faith healers pose.

CC petra1 a.k.a Joagbaje. What sayest thou?

It's all lies . As I said above . The First Lady is now an active member of CEC . The president also attends some of our programmes
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 12:27pm On Jul 07, 2016
petra1:



It's all lies and propaganda especially by envious Nigerian ministers . We read manner of such lies such as SOUTH AFRICA HAS BANNED PASTOR CHRIS OR ORDER HIS ARREST FOR THIS AND THAT . They are all propaganda .. It sold for a moment but got overtaken with truth. Members of the first family got healed . The president wrote personal letter to pastor chris .and one of the things he said was .THANK YOU FOR HEALING OUR NATION .

Firstly the First Lady is now a leader in CEC . She has been to Nigeria many times to attend partner conference . I'm sure she will be here again this year . The president of South Africa attends pastor chris programmes . He was in the last crusade . What more proof do we need .
[b]You seem blinded by your preconceived notions so much that you didn't take the time to read the post.

Unlike what you wrote, this post did not say that South Africa’s Advertising Standards Authority banned Chris Oyakhilome. It did not say that the Agency ordered the arrest of the Jerry-curl wearing entertainer. It is you who has added what I did not type.

This post is not about the personal lives of Zuma and his family. But while we are at it, please give proof about the personal letter Jacob Zuma wrote where he said THANK YOU FOR HEALING OUR NATION.

But back to the discussion, what South Africa’s Advertising Standards Authority banned is Christ Embassy church's airing of its claims of faith healing.

This is the News24, South Africa’s largest digital publisher, confirming the news: http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/ASA-bans-churchs-healing-claims-20110203

If you think the news is false, please provide proof. I know religionists can die defending their Pastorpreneurs but it's good to welcome you to this page by telling that your opinions mean NADA if you can't back them up.

I patiently await your rebuttal.
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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by petra1(m): 6:33pm On Jul 07, 2016
joseph1013:
. It did say that the Agency ordered the arrest of the Jerry-curl wearing entertainer. .


Are you a child ? So why has he not been arrested since the 2010 or 2011 ? He has been going in and out of South Africa .
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 7:13pm On Jul 07, 2016
petra1:
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Are you a child ? So why has he not been arrested since the 2010 or 2011 ? He has been going in and out of South Africa .
I can see that you are a very mischievous person who would even go to the length of editing my post to score cheap points. That's unfortunate.

Knock yourself out!
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 8:45pm On Jul 08, 2016
[b]THEIR MYTHS ARE NOT BETTER THAN OURS

In the bible tales, A SNAKE TALKED To A WOMAN; that is Jewish myth for you.

In the Quran tales, A DONKEY TALKED TO A MAN; that is ARAB MYTH for you.

In the African moonlight tales, A TORTOISE TALKED TO HUMANS; that is AFRICAN MYTH for you.

In reality, animals do not talk. They are all myths created for various reasons in tandem with tribal traditions. There is always some moral lessons to learn from a folklore even though the stories are not real. However, African Christians and Muslims have been brainwashed to accept that all the myths in the bible and Quran were real life events.

Africans should understand that the Jews, Romans, Arabs have amassed serious wealth and fortune through promoting and selling of their myths to the world. It is an act of slavery and cowardice to be celebrating and promoting alien myths and legends on daily basis when we have thousands of myths to celebrate and promote here in Africa.

It is pathetically unfortunate that some Africans can even kill their fellow Africans in an attempt to defend alien myths.

You want Africa to progress but you do not understand or know Africa. You hate everything African and you expect the world not to laugh at you?

We don't have serious and enlightened leaders yet, if not why do we still have Christian religious myths and Islamic religious myths in our curriculum?
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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by kevoh(m): 9:09pm On Jul 08, 2016
joseph1013:
I can see that you are a very mischievous person who would even go to the length of editing my post to score cheap points. That's unfortunate.

Knock yourself out!

Lol... I was not in the least surprised tongue . If someone can edit videos of fake miracle healings to suit his agenda then editing your comment on Nairaland is a piece of cake. Na their way!
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 3:53pm On Jul 09, 2016
If God doesn't believe that there is a higher power than Him, does that make Him an Atheist?

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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 3:42pm On Jul 11, 2016
[b]DON'T MIND THE BIBLE

If you are a male; just take your shirt off and you'd see two little nip.ples somewhere bilaterally to the sternum.

Look at your nip.ples carefully; you might want to touch just to be sure they are there. So if you are a normal healthy male; you should have a nip.ple, two actually.

Now unzip your trousers and take a close look at your pe.nis; good; you might find a big one or you might need a little squinting to see yours if you aren't so fortunate.

So why am I asking you to do all this?

Those nip.ples are actually remnants of female bre.asts; we were all females at sometime in the early stages of our life.

The pe.nis?

Don't scream yet please!

It's just a cli.toris that has grown 3 inches for the unfortunate men and 12 inches for those in the 2% exclusive porn hub.

Next time you want to beat your chest or grab your crotch to show the ladies how manly and more important your gender is because the Bible says God created you first and women are subservient to you; just remember you are stroking a big cl.itoris and beating on some flattened bre.asts.

Go see your biology teacher if he didn't tell you this already. [/b]

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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by kevoh(m): 9:48am On Jul 12, 2016
joseph1013:

Next time you want to beat your chest or grab your crotch to show the ladies how manly and more important your gender is because the Bible says God created you first and women are subservient to you; just remember you are stroking a big cl.itoris and beating on some flattened bre.asts.


grin grin grin
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 10:06am On Jul 12, 2016
[b]THE IRONY OF CONFORMITY
by Mitterand Okorie

We are society that raise children to conform. Conform, so that your uncle will take you to Lagos. Behave so that the pastor can sponsor your education. Go and shave your afro so that you ‘look responsible’. Go to 10AM church service so that Chief Agunaechemba will see that you’re God-fearing and maybe employ you. In the end, we end up with a bunch of adult-infants who can barely exercise their imagination because they’ve been robotized by a society of conformism. Everything is put on appearance, and we are easily deceived. Exactly why we fall for trifling fraudsters, wicked politicians, fraudulent pastors, and all manner of rapacious friends.

People tell you; you can’t wear this, your beard can’t look like this, that hair-cut doesn’t suit someone of your standing, you’re wearing ear rings—are you gay, your pants are too tight, your jerry-curls are too done. Your shoes are too expensive, who will employ you? You look too fine for the interview—the man may sleep with you o. The list of banal, trifling and pathetically atrocious unsolicited advises are easily extendable.

In Bromley, London 2011 August I met two bankers in HSBC. Both black. One had neatly packed dreadlocks, with ear rings on, and a bespoke suit. He was there at the customer service section. I’d say Jamaican from the accent. This is the face you see when you get into the bank. The second one, an assistant manager had braids. He was mixed, with this well woven-braids, it’ll make you want one for yourself. I quickly thought about Naija, how none of these guys would’ve ever been allowed anywhere near the bank, even as security men. They’d tell them: “how would you feel if you come to deposit money to someone dressed the way you are?” The banks, these same criminal banks that deduct bits of our money without informing us, they are afraid their religious men and big men who mostly come to the bank to borrow don’t find you repulsive.

They want you with no style, bland, clean shaven like a cop, fawning, grinning in that slavish-dovish-crooked way. But guess what, no one has ever looked for their money in HSBC bank. It is our own Nigerian banks, full of clean-shaven, righteous, suit-wearing, no-earring wearing, molo-barbing men and women that money always goes missing. It is in our banks filled with religious and upright managers that CBN or AMCON always comes to offer bail out to prevent them from collapsing under the greed of pretentious men. Africa stay deceiving itself.

Imagine if Mark Zuckerberg was Nigerian and wears those identical pair of clothes every day; they’ll say it’s because if he wears anything else, his money will stop flowing. They’ll say that’s the condition the babalawo gave him. No one will attempt to imagine the fact that creative people can sometimes be so way into their own heads, they have no time to bother about fashion. And that sometimes, people also want to be stylish and look different, because even dressing is art, and can be act of self-expression.

One time I came to the office with an Ankara short, and a colleague said I didn’t look too lecturer-like. I said thank God, we don’t have to wear tags to prove who we are. It was a beautiful short designed by Genesis, my Aba designer. I wish I had told him that I didn’t get all the exposure in my life to come here and be caught up in this bullshit conformist system. Now go, go ahead and live your life for people who wouldn't jump into the grave with you.[/b]

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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 4:44pm On Jul 13, 2016
[b]ARE YOU INFECTED?

A few people, despite growing up surrounded by infected individuals, never get infected. Some, like me, catch it for a short while but overcome it in their early twenties.

Many more get a heavy infection and struggle with it for several decades before defeating it. An alarming number contract it and never beat it until the day they die. Some of these people become so profoundly infected that they actually try to infect their children.

The most deeply and chronically infected people eventually believe they are normal and everyone else needs help.

If you are still infected by the religion virus, you can recover. This is my advice:

1) Recognise that you have a problem. Believing in reality is normal--believing in a fantasy world is not.

2) Avoid surrounding yourself with infected people. Spend as much time as you can talking to people who have recovered.

3) Change your vocabulary; replace "faith" with "hope" and "supernatural" with "unproven" and see if your narratives still make sense.

4) Since you cannot prove that your preferred god exists, ask yourself how you can be so certain that your beliefs are true and that billions of other people are wrong. Ask yourself if it's possible that people of all faiths suffer from different strains of the same virus.

5) Accept that you CAN become normal again and you WILL become normal again.

I can't wait to welcome you to reality.[/b]

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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 3:28pm On Jul 15, 2016
[b]ALL GODS ARE EQUAL

If one god was real and all the rest fake, we would know. Consider three benefits of believing in a god:

- Believers in fake gods would be constantly complaining their prayers are never answered whilst believers in a real god would be jubilant over their amazing success rate.

- Believers in a fake god would bemoan the fact that they never feel the presence of their god whilst believers in a real god would talk to their god daily and be certain of it.

- Believers in a fake god would ask their god for advice yet still make many bad decisions whilst believers in a real god would find their god deftly guiding them through life's obstacles.

So it would be obvious which god was real and responsive and obvious that the others were not. But, here is the interesting thing, it is NOT obvious. Religious people all report these benefits whichever god they worship.

So we are forced to conclude that imaginary gods apparently work as well as real ones. This leads us to a second conclusion, since we know some gods MUST be imaginary, all known gods must work as well as imaginary gods. It turns out all gods are equal.

Is it not therefore fair to conclude, that all known gods are equally imaginary?

Is there any other reasonable conclusion?[/b]

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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Nobody: 4:26pm On Jul 15, 2016
Joseph1013 some gods like the Christian god are more powerful than the native gods of our land that's why politicians don't swear with charm when thy want to take an oath rather they use the bible or Quran lol as for me I believe in no god
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 7:56pm On Jul 15, 2016
[b]ANOTHER GETS HEALED

"I've been a deep believer my whole life. 18 years as a Southern Baptist. More than 40 years as a mainline Protestant. I'm an ordained pastor. But it's just stopped making sense to me. You see people doing terrible things in the name of religion, and you think: 'Those people believe just as strongly as I do. They're just as convinced as I am.' And it just doesn't make sense anymore. It doesn't make sense to believe in a God that dabbles in people's lives. If a plane crashes, and one person survives, everyone thanks God. They say: 'God had a purpose for that person. God saved her for a reason!' Do we not realize how cruel that is? Do we not realize how cruel it is to say that if God had a purpose for that person, he also had a purpose in killing everyone else on that plane? And a purpose in starving millions of children? A purpose in slavery and genocide? For every time you say that there's a purpose behind one person's success, you invalidate billions of people. You say there is a purpose to their suffering. And that's just cruel."

~ Humans of New York Page
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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 1:08pm On Jul 16, 2016
THEY WANT THE FREEDOM TO INSULT

When Charlie Hebdo attack happened in France, many Christians argued that it was wrong to offend Muslims by drawing cartoons. They thought the cartoonists were reckless. The murders seemed justified.

A Christian woman was beheaded in Kano and the same people who excused violence in France couldn't stomach it.

I hear they are planning to hold a proselytising session at the spot where a preacher was murdered, near a mosque in the outskirts of Abuja.

It appears finally we have a religious bloc fiercely in favour of the freedom to insult. I hope they don't come out, guns blazing, when their own beliefs are ridiculed.

Glory to Zeus.

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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by Nobody: 3:51pm On Jul 17, 2016
Hello! I present to you an excerpt from a thread i stumbled upon today by winner01. Pay attention to the bolded. I implore you to visit the thread https://www.nairaland.com/3228922/32-reasons-why-continue-believe


'This point is a little funny. Atheists cant really give a concise or unified explanation of why they are obsessed with a particular God. I would be surprised if I didn’t know some ex-muslims turned atheists. The reason is not far-fetched. Someone asked this question of why atheists constantly wage war against Christianity, christians and their God on one of my favourite t.v shows. The 700 club. The old man gave the best possible answer. He smiled and said “Christianity is where the power is”.

I want people to note that atheists never discuss how atheism would improve, strengthen, or otherwise change theirs or others’ lives for the better.

So why can’t atheists be content in talking about their own worldview, in their own circles; rather than constantly bitching and complaining about what they are not/what they used to be? Do they have problems letting go of their past?

A famous proverb says, “if the shoe fits, wear it.” Is it not true that those who are obsessed with running others down, may very well have some disturbance going on in terms of their own self-esteem / self-realization / being “comfortable in their own skin,” etc.?

Words of a Fether declared: “An obsession is when something or someone dominates a person’s mind. So what else can it be called when so many atheists spend large amounts of time and effort in Christian venues such as message boards and blogs, arguing and mocking incessantly? Who else spends more time on what they don’t believe than what they do believe?"

Atheists continue to say that all unprovable beliefs are the same, but why don’t atheists put forth the same effort to combat belief in islam, giant noodles, pink unicorns and other ideologies?
What exactly is it with the christian God? Worse is even the muslim turned atheists that i know, also speak relentlessly about the Christian God.
When they deceptively ask: “which of the 5000+ gods” as if they dont know the exact one they spend their lives talking about, i just begin to smile within myself.

We can take nairaland religion section for example. One can try to check the number of threads created by atheists against the Christian God and Christianity in the past 2 weeks and then correlate it to about 200 human lives lost over the past 2 weeks to the combined attacks of Isis, al-shabbab and islam as a whole. Not one thread has been created to try to condemn the killings or to free muslims who could potentially be radicalized by the teachings of islam. This is enough proof that they are not so concerned with the lives of people nor are they concerned with the negative effect of religion on people. Their primary concern is to wage war against the one true God.
Even on other foreign atheist forums, it amazes me that the main focus of their lives is the christian God.

Well, I wouldnt concern myself much with a lie either. We can safely deduce that they do not care much about human lives, but about suppressing their belief in the Christian God and getting as many people to join them in their campaign against the christian God.

Heywood Broun was absolutely correct when he said: "Nobody talks so constantly about God as those who insist there is no God." And not just any god or gods as they deceptively claim, but a particular God. The God of creation.

They talk about this particular God everyday of their lives and that makes me know for sure that “there is something really special about this God”

A-theism literally means not theist. Very well, then: we know what it is not. But what is it? Perhaps it’s like an onion: you peel and peel it, and discover that there is no core. Its basis is nothing at all. It’s similar to what we Christians think about evil: that it is not actually a thing; it’s only the negation of a real thing: good, or the God in Whom good is grounded.'
Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 4:45pm On Jul 17, 2016
[b]winner01 has a persecution complex.

I have said this here before: The reason most posts are directed at Christianity is because most of us are ex-christians or are the kind of people with whom Christianity is more familiar than Islam.

There are several people who constantly talk against Islam in other online places. They are ex-muslims. There is Mubarak Bala, the atheist whose parents locked up in a psychiatry home for questioning Islam in Kano and whom BBC broadcast his story. There is Ali Rizvi an ex-muslim from Pakistan.

Therefore, if winners01 thinks people talk mostly about Christianity, he should venture beyond Nairaland and visit ex-islamists forums.

Atheism does not improve lives because it is not an ideology. But humanism does. Most atheists are humanists.

humanism /ˈhjuːmənɪz(ə)m/
noun
a rationalist outlook or system of thought
attaching prime importance to human rather
than divine or supernatural matters.

So unless you're trying to be mischievous, you will agree with me that I discuss it alot on this thread.

I conclude by saying that winner01 is a pseudo-intellectual whose arguments do not stand up to rigorous scrutiny. His thoughts about religion are infantile. [/b]

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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 3:05pm On Jul 18, 2016
When Christians tell you to ignore the old testament saying that God has given us the grace based on the new testament, does it not sound to you like, I know this guy was a serial rapist and killer, but that's the past, we can allow him to babysit our kids.

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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 4:40pm On Jul 19, 2016
THE UNEXPECTED GOD
by darkmatter2525


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jduMIUt9M3M

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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 5:00pm On Jul 19, 2016
Darkmatter's videos should be engraved into the history hard drives of our species, so that when aliens dig out our remains, they will know higher orders of sentience existed among the pitiful masses.

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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 7:48am On Jul 20, 2016
I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT

I can understand it when people march for climate change.

I can understand it when people rally for nuclear nonproliferation.

I can understand it when people protest against raised taxes.

I can understand it when people agitate, even violently, against oppressive governments.

But I cannot understand folks who disrupt the public peace because their sacred scriptures were maligned.

Let gods fight their own battles.

If they made the universe and everything in it, they do not need men to march on their behalf to prove their mettle.

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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 1:02pm On Jul 20, 2016
THE REPUBLIC OF ZOMBIES

Asides the hell-forsaken stories of Dino Melaye and Remi Tinubu, a meme insinuating that King David and Jonathan had a romantic relationship has remained the most trendy topic for many a Nigerian youth this past few days. This in the same week that the economy is said to have entered recession, and the military alleged to have committed genocide against a religious minority.

This meme insinuating that King David and Jonathan had a romantic relationship was shared widely on Twitter, Nairaland, Facebook and featured on blogs, with 105 percent of Nigerian youths proffering expert views on the subject, and half that number threatening to bring down the heavens in protest.

Unfortunately, this is the state of the nation: a republic of zombies. No wonder the politicians and oligarchs have failed to accept the urgency of the moment.

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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 9:25pm On Jul 21, 2016
[b]DOES GOD SANCTION SLAVERY?

Slavery is rather an embarrassment for Christians. After all, it's hard to claim your god is the author of absolute morality and simultaneously know that he sanctioned slavery. Some try to get around this obvious contradiction by claiming that the sort of slavery practiced by the Hebrews, and sanctioned by God, was different from the slavery seen in the USA before the civil war.

They say slavery 3,000 years ago was indentured servitude--a safe refuge for people in serious debt so they could pay back what they owed. I have never seen Christians produce any evidence of this--all I have seen is assertions. So let's look at what God did sanction according to the Bible.

The Bible makes it clear that slaves are a person's property. They may be bought and sold and they may be passed on to the master's children when he dies.

If a slave has a baby, that child also becomes the master's property. If a slave couple have children and are later allowed to go free, the children remain the property of the master.

A master was permitted to beat his slaves. Indeed, according to the Bible, he may lawfully beat them to death, provided they live a fews days after the beating. And he may brand them so they can be recognised as his property.

In a clear illustration of the status of slaves, if a slave is gored by a bull, the master must be compensated--not the slave.

In addition to trading in slaves, the Bible also permits slaves to be taken forcibly by the victors after a battle.

All this closely mirrors the type of slavery seen in the USA. But, in fact, Biblical slavery was worse. Hebrews could enslave Hebrews but Americans were not permitted to enslave Americans. God even allowed men to sell their daughters as concubines, which was not permitted in the USA.

Honestly, there is more that could be said but this is enough. If God is the author of absolute morality, we are terribly wrong to have abolished slavery. But, if we are right, God is wrong.

How COULD God be wrong? Simple, the Bible was written by Iron Age men and embodied their primitive moral values. If we are right that slavery is immoral, God is ancient fiction, nothing more.[/b]

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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 7:47am On Jul 22, 2016
WHY THE OBSESSION?

Okay, someone who from this thread has been interfacing with me outside Nairaland told me about this thread https://www.nairaland.com/3232251/what-exactly-atheism-done-humanity and wants to know my opinion about winner01 accusation of atheists' obsession with religion. So I thought to use an analogy to answer the enquiry.

Oncologists are doctors who specialise in tumours and cancers. They're always reading about and studying cancers. Looking for ways to treat it.

In casual conversations with other colleagues, cancer always comes up. They go to conferences about cancer. They write in medical journals about cancer. They seem obsessed about a disease they claim is bad. I mean, there are other diseases too, but they always talk about cancer. What could be the reason?

I think they secretly admire cancer and want to have it. I mean, what else can explain this obsession with cancer?

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Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by joseph1013: 9:00pm On Jul 22, 2016
SILLY THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS

Thoughts and Prayers after Orlando attack.

Thoughts and Prayers after Nice attack.

Thought and Prayers after Germany train axe attack.

Thoughts and Prayers now just after this Munich attack!

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"
- Albert Einstein.

***Y'all Thoughts and Prayers folks are truly insane. SMH.

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