Touchnot01:
Without God, everything is permissible. No man or society made of men can decide for me what I can and cannot do.

hopefulLandlord:


Maybe atheists are on the same level as your god since your god also has NO morality too OR what does your god base his morality on? He has "no good no evil"

Start worshipping atheists around you

hopefulLandlord:


Why not try disobeying all societal laws and see where it leads you?

hopefulLandlord:


Why not try disobeying all societal laws and see where it leads you?

Weah96:


It's called fatigue. Long day at work. I couldn't post anything more than 2 words.

KingEbukaNaija:


Only shallow minds think skepticism is a form of attack . We were scrutinizing the morality of atheists and found out that you guys have no morality - no good no evil.

KingEbukaNaija:


You work ? And I thought you have chosen to devote your time launching scurrilous attacks on Christianity

KingEbukaNaija:


Only shallow minds think skepticism is a form of attack . We were scrutinizing the morality of atheists and found out that you guys have no morality - no good no evil.

KingEbukaNaija:


Wow . This is exciting ! ! !

I have loads of questions for you

Do you live in Nigeria ?

KingEbukaNaija:


Daft comment . God based morality on his nature

JackBizzle:



You call what you have been doing skepticism? You have been throwing strawmen and making arguments from ignorance.


What exactly is the difference between the morality of an atheist or a non-abrahamic religious person? If your religion doesnt have a book or moral code to base your morality on, you are left to use 3 things to base your morality on-

1) society (national laws and culture)
2) logic (the reasoning that causing less harm or no harm is better for humanity)
3) upbringing (parents teaching)

However, we find that logic contradicts 1) and 2) most of the time as it is least biased method of grounding morality. Logic is why most atheists have a similar set of moral principles even though they have no codified book or laws. Logic is universal, although not perfect.

However, being the willful dullard you are, the point will go through your head and be wasted. Keep thinking that your christian morality that has incest, slavery and genocide in the bible is superior.

hopefulLandlord:


What if I do?

Weah96:


I actually have employees. But I'm unable to reveal any additional info because there may be folks on here who know me in person.

KingEbukaNaija:


I know you are trying to circumvent ridicule from me but its gona come anyway . My question was a pellucid enough , do you live in Nigeria ?

KingEbukaNaija:


That's cool . This is a "faceless forum" so you can have as much fun as you want . Just don't cry foul as JackBizzle is doing when things get too difficult

Weah96:


LOL. Faceless until someone calls out your father's name.

What happened to J Bizzle?

KingEbukaNaija:


Lmao . Someone has done that to you ?



Dude can't stand being inundated with the obloquy atheism now gets . He shouldn't have messed with us in the first place

Weah96:


Nope. But it's my worst fear. The people capable of uncovering my identity are the same ones who will tell my devoutly Christian parents.

You not only call yourself a troll but a god of trolls. Why would people not appreciate your honesty? It's right there in your signature.

KingEbukaNaija:

Common bro !!! You are grown man who is scared of opening up to your Christian parents ? You scared they are going to cut you out of their will




Trolling is fun bro . It has nothing to do with honesty . Atheism believes there is no good or evil , so why should you people be concerned with the truth .

Weah96:


Nope. But it's my worst fear. The people capable of uncovering my identity are the same ones who will tell my devoutly Christian parents.

You not only call yourself a troll but a god of trolls. Why would people not appreciate your honesty? It's right there in your signature.

Richirich713:
A man is drowning, what wud u do?

naijadeyhia:


Plus why would they be concerned or offended because of trolling. Or does their lack of moral beliefs not cover trolling?

hopefulLandlord:


What!

Richirich713:


What wud u do?

hopefulLandlord:


I'll try to rescue him if I can

Which dumbo made that pic?

And you actually agree with the pic so much that you posted it?

Come on!

hopefulLandlord:


I'll try to rescue him if I can

Which dumbo made that pic?

And you actually agree with the pic so much that you posted it?

Come on!

hopefulLandlord:
Umm... I'd say only atheists can have meaningful moral opinions. "Because god said it is a sin" is not a meaningful opinion. Religion takes the meaning out of morality. When religious people are thoughtfully moral, it is usually in spite of their religious belief, not because of it.
Arguing that something is wrong because it is a "sin," as David Foster Wallace once wrote in a different context, is like arguing that murder is wrong because it is against the law. It's a circular, deeply superficial and content-free argument. You merely substitute one word for another ("sin" for "wrong".
To the extent that the religious go beyond "god said it is a sin" they are actually appealing to fundamentally atheist moral arguments. For example, "because it causes pain to others" is actually an atheist argument, not a religious one. When religious people use it in some form ("god said it is a sin, because it causes pain" they are bolstering the weakness in the divine notion of sin. The god clause in the above example is actually superfluous. "Because it causes pain" has the same content.
The only way religious people can make their arguments deeper without using atheist reasoning is to appeal to the afterlife and some sort of calculus of beyond life reward and punishment. In my opinion this is actually a lousy way to deepen the argument (even ignoring the fact that there is no reason to believe it to be true) because it places notions of wrong and morality into an extrinsic motivation framework. You should not kill or rape because even if you get away, you'll be punished with eternal hellfire? Really? That's the best you can come up with? You should be kind to the unfortunate because you'll get booze and women in heaven? Really? That's "meaningful" morality? It's the reverse. It empties behavior of even its natural moral meaning. Even without reading deep ethics tomes, a small child will be kind to a crying friend. Putting religion in that child's head is equivalent to taking that natural unreasoning empathy out.
How do you actually make the argument deeper (for instance by asking, "why is causing pain wrong?"? You have to go where no truly religious people will go. To subjects like evolution.
For instance, we can understand "pain" through evolutionary notions of empathy, cooperation and reciprocal trust and get to a point in the analysis where we don't even need the word "wrong." Only within a Darwinian framework can we even talk about what the existence of rape among dolphins implies for the corresponding human behavior, because we understand at some level that our model has to cover both cases (since there is no artificial distinction elevating man above animals for atheists).
This allows atheists to analyze and apply the "don't cause pain" in much deeper ways than religious people. For example the religious usually make humans out to be special and don't usually care much for animal pain. In fact, one religious guy I know argued, "but God put the animals on the earth for us to eat!" What do you get as a result? Factory farming. A military-industrial complex of horrendous pain-creation justified by some notion of humans having dominion over animals by divine sanction. Yes, I assign a significant proportion of the blame for things like factory farming to religious notions of morality.
The religious are also less likely to understand and apply practical notions of deterrent pain and more likely to cause more pain than necessary. The religious might believe in some notion of divine symbolism and symmetry (an eye for an eye, or cutting off the hand of a thief, or stoning an adulterer or pretending that killing in war and capital punishment are somehow different from murder) in their pain calculus.

KingEbukaNaija:
Please tell us to continue reading here and don't post this rigmarole again .
https://www.quora.com/Where-do-atheists-get-their-morality
Its a shame that you need another atheist's view to understand where you stand on morality . Logical thinkers indeed

KingEbukaNaija:


All I see is a pained nigga . Its good to see that our threads are making you atheists lose sleep . Don't start something you are not smart enough to finish . You woke the giants in us and apparently you can't stand it . Logical thinkers my ass . Mtcheww .

KingEbukaNaija:


Lmao . Someone has done that to you ?



Dude can't stand being inundated with the obloquy atheism now gets . He shouldn't have messed with us in the first place