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Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by realmindz: 9:27am On Jul 24, 2016
wen reading the bible, the story of how d three hebrew men who refused to bow down to the golden image and then cast into burning furnace, my question had been.; whr was Daniel? did he not also disobey d king by not bowing down?

Muafrika2, Goddys I guess u guys have ur answers now, for again, otem has released the full version of the story

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Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by Nobody: 11:30am On Jul 24, 2016
realmindz:
wen reading the bible, the story of how d three hebrew men who refused to bow down to the golden image and then cast into burning furnace, my question had been.; whr was Daniel? did he not also disobey d king by not bowing down?

Muafrika2, Goddys I guess u guys have ur answers now, for again, otem has released the full version of the story
Otem's version was invented only a few years ago by a few mischievous storytellers claiming inspiration. I stand with the unaltered original book of Daniel. I don't worry about where he was when his brothers were burning all alone in Nebuchadnezer's oven.
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by Nobody: 12:54pm On Jul 24, 2016
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Otem's version was invented only a few years ago by a few mischievous storytellers claiming inspiration. I stand with the unaltered original book of Daniel.I don't worry about where he was when his brothers were burning all alone in Nebuchadnezer's oven.[[b][/b]/quote]

Shaking my head for you shocked
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by Nobody: 1:07pm On Jul 24, 2016
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Should I worry? If Daniel who wrote the story did not see it important why should I?
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by realmindz: 2:19pm On Jul 24, 2016
Muafrika2:

Otem's version was invented only a few years ago by a few mischievous storytellers claiming inspiration. I stand with the unaltered original book of Daniel. I don't worry about where he was when his brothers were burning all alone in Nebuchadnezer's oven.
a typical religious fellow, will never care to seek knowledge and ask questions...


plus, prove it his own version was invented few years ago, tell us the date it was invented
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by Nobody: 2:43pm On Jul 24, 2016
realmindz:

a typical religious fellow, will never care to seek knowledge and ask questions...


plus, prove it his own version was invented few years ago, tell us the date it was invented
So you consider this knowledge? How gullible undecided
Am unconvinced you are not a religious fellow.
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by realmindz: 3:12pm On Jul 24, 2016
Muafrika2:
So you consider this knowledge? How gullible undecided Am unconvinced you are not a religious fellow.
do u understand ursef not to talk of understanding my comment?
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by joe4christ(m): 6:38pm On Jul 24, 2016
OkaiCorne:


Co-incidence I give up mehn. For the sake of everyone, I would not derail this thread with our chat Otem. I would like to have a chat with you. Perhaps we are seeing the same TRUTH from different view points. There's no point shouting over who is right or wrong, but I don't think coincidence explains it all. Remember that for every action... there's a reaction.

Once more, my apologies for derailing. I would love us to discuss further outside this thread.

Thanks.


I'm pertubed to ask, how do you think magicians operate, what is the secret behind their tricks (The more you look, the lesser you see)? If you said your perceived miracle are not coincidence, then why is it not consistent? Thats a big question I guess you wouldn't wanna dabble into with details. Even what they call prophecy, they are more like prediction, they work a times and dont often time, the miracle also work and fail often, so much that the pastors get tired and let the sleeping dog continue to lie. So, is it that your God is inconsistent? How sure are u that what you call miracles are not even staged
I for once know of a man, a friends dad who died and was dumped in the mutuary for 3days, he was about being buried while his corpse was being taken to where he would be laid to rest, the old man woke up. Come see confusion, even the family ran off. The man walked back home and ate and lived fine only to die again 2days later and was finally buried. No one prayed for him. Atleast, I'm a witness to this one. So, what are we saying here... Don't be too quick to label and draw conclusion about mysterious phenomenons you are ignorant about. For that was how religion came about - Human desire to explain phenomenon that eludes their meagre understanding

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Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by OkaiCorne(m): 7:10pm On Jul 24, 2016
joe4christ:



I'm pertubed to ask, how do you think magicians operate, what is the secret behind their tricks (The more you look, the lesser you see)? If you said your perceived miracle are not coincidence, then why is it not consistent? Thats a big question I guess you wouldn't wanna dabble into with details. Even what they call prophecy, they are more like prediction, they work a times and dont often time, the miracle also work and fail often, so much that the pastors get tired and let the sleeping dog continue to lie. So, is it that your God is inconsistent? How sure are u that what you call miracles are not even staged
I for once know of a man, a friends dad who died and was dumped in the mutuary for 3days, he was about being buried while his corpse was being taken to where he would be laid to rest, the old man woke up. Come see confusion, even the family ran off. The man walked back home and ate and lived fine only to die again 2days later and was finally buried. No one prayed for him. Atleast, I'm a witness to this one. So, what are we saying here... Don't be too quick to label and draw conclusion about mysterious phenomenons you are ignorant about. For that was how religion came about - Human desire to explain phenomenon that eludes their meagre understanding


I humbly want to ask a simple question , that falsehood exists means there is no TRUTH in existence too?

Genuine miracles abound and happen consistently. Forget what those clown in suits stage manage on TV sets.

If you doubt me, you can ask for a medical doctor's point of view on the matter (miracles after prayers made in Jesus' name). That should give you a much more accurate position.

As for prophecy, if you're referring to what we hear what our "Men of God" prophesy about here... believe you me, it's what any simpleton can do, for example I can wake up and say "tomorrow the sun shall surely shine, but Nigerians should pray rain shouldn't fall"... all these are simple psychology to deceive people. If it rains, it simply means Nigerians didn't pray enough, but if the sun shines, I take all the glory and people will see me as a "powerful prophet"

That notwithstanding, I have come across people with a gift of prophecy. Very genuine.

What is important here is having a spirit of discernment to sift the fake from the genuine.

The TRUTH is better experienced than being told...

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Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by joe4christ(m): 9:07am On Jul 25, 2016
OkaiCorne:



I humbly want to ask a simple question , that falsehood exists means there is no TRUTH in existence too?

Genuine miracles abound and happen consistently. Forget what those clown in suits stage manage on TV sets.

If you doubt me, you can ask for a medical doctor's point of view on the matter (miracles after prayers made in Jesus' name). That should give you a much more accurate position.

As for prophecy, if you're referring to what we hear what our "Men of God" prophesy about here... believe you me, it's what any simpleton can do, for example I can wake up and say "tomorrow the sun shall surely shine, but Nigerians should pray rain shouldn't fall"... all these are simple psychology to deceive people. If it rains, it simply means Nigerians didn't pray enough, but if the sun shines, I take all the glory and people will see me as a "powerful prophet"

That notwithstanding, I have come across people with a gift of prophecy. Very genuine.

What is important here is having a spirit of discernment to sift the fake from the genuine.

The TRUTH is better experienced than being told...


You know my problem with you? You tend to make it look as if genuine miracle and supernatural occurrence is only exclusive to the Christian faith.
Now, let me put it to you in your very own coin:
If there exist fake herbalist, that simply prove that somewhere also exist a real herbalist for there can never be a fake without a corresponding or opposite Genuine. Same is applicable to native doctors, witches, wizards Muslims, paganism and virtually everything that ever exist on the surface of the earth. Now, that's the unbiased truth of this matter...
I've seen miracles performed by native doctors where pastors failed. I've seen Christians, I mean lots of them running to these herbalists/native doctors secretly to seek for solutions to their pending issues, that's after the church and various men of God couldn't solve their problems, they seek help from these native doctors, get solution to their problems and still come back to the church to testify, giving glory to yahwey. And the traditional dieties don't get jealous and destroy the good thing they have done, they dont. You know why? That because they don't seek worship in exchange for rendering their services. Irrespective of your faith, you can go to them, seek for help and after getting it, you can go back and give the glory to your God, it doesn't make them jealous in any way. But not with the Christian God filled with ego, pride and jealousy which he even tend to be proud of and that's why he flaunt it in his book.

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Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by OkaiCorne(m): 9:10am On Jul 25, 2016
joe4christ:



You know my problem with you? You tend to make it look as if genuine miracle and supernatural occurrence is only exclusive to the Christian faith.
Now, let me put it to you in your very own coin:
If there exist fake herbalist, that simply prove that somewhere also exist a real herbalist for there can never be a fake without a corresponding or opposite Genuine. Same is applicable to native doctors, witches, wizards Muslims, paganism and virtually everything that ever exist on the surface of the earth. Now, that's the unbiased truth of this matter...
I've seen miracles performed by native doctors where pastors failed. I've seen Christians, I mean lots of them running to these herbalists/native doctors secretly to seek for solutions to their pending issues, that's after the church and various men of God couldn't solve their problems, they seek help from these native doctors, get solution to their problems and still come back to the church to testify, giving glory to yahwey. And the traditional dieties don't get jealous and destroy the good thing they have done, they dont. You know why? That because they don't seek worship in exchange for rendering their services. Irrespective of your faith, you can go to them, seek for help and after getting it, you can go back and give the glory to your God, it doesn't make them jealous in any way. But not with the Christian God filled with ego, pride and jealousy which he even tend to be proud of and that's why he flaunt it in his book.

Kindly point out where I stated miracles are the exclusive preserve of Christians alone...

My point of view is that I have seen genuine miracles occur online real-time to the amazement of medical doctors as prayers are made in the name of Jesus. I guess that is coincidence to you.

If I may ask you a question, per chance you see a well prepared meal and you devour it, does it make sense to clean your mouth and conclude the meal was prepared by coincidence?

I hope you get where I'm coming from...

Another point you made on "Christians" visiting native doctors and eventually giving "testimony" in church should be a pointer to the fact that everyone who goes to church are not true Christians. You've got to discern the fake from the genuine and know where you stand.

I repeat, the TRUTH is better experienced than being told. If I talk all day, I can't convince you. A personal experience will surely put this to rest.

I honestly feel the pain of man to explain certain things beyond our realm of existence, trying to decipher the ways of the master of the universe is like trying to use the mental capacity of an ant to decipher the ways of a human being...
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by Nobody: 2:41pm On Jul 25, 2016
realmindz:

do u understand ursef not to talk of understanding my comment?
Stop getting emotional
realmindz:

a typical religious fellow, will never care to seek knowledge and ask questions...
plus, prove it his own version was invented few years ago, tell us the date it was invented

All UFO religions and their "revelations" do not date beyond 1947. Since then, "chosen" people like Otem have been dreaming and taking the cult to new gullible souls like you...

The term “flying saucers” and the popular notion of the UFO originated in 1947. The 1950s saw the creation of UFO religions, with the advent of the purported contactees.

Read more about UFOS Religion here
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_religion
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by Nobody: 5:23pm On Jul 25, 2016
Muafrika2:

Read more about UFOS Religion here
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_religion
A UFO religion is any religion in which the existence of extraterrestrial (ET) entities operating unidentified flying objects (UFOs) are an element of belief. Typically, adherents of such religions believe the ETs to be interested in the welfare of humanity which either already is, or eventually will become, part of a pre-existing ET civilization. Others may incorporate ETs into a more supernatural worldview in which the UFO occupants are more akin to angels than physical aliens; this distinction may be a little blurred within the overall subculture. These religions have their roots in the tropes of early science fiction (especially space opera) and weird fiction writings, in ufology, and in the subculture of UFO sightings and alien abduction stories. Scientology is the largest UFO religion in the world, followed by Raëlism.

Olodo What Has This Got To Do With What Otemanuduno Has Been Preaching Since??

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Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by Nobody: 5:35pm On Jul 25, 2016
Lilbrown007:

A UFO religion is any religion in which the existence of extraterrestrial (ET) entities operating unidentified flying objects (UFOs) are an element of belief. Typically, adherents of such religions believe the ETs to be interested in the welfare of humanity which either already is, or eventually will become, part of a pre-existing ET civilization. Others may incorporate ETs into a more supernatural worldview in which the UFO occupants are more akin to angels than physical aliens; this distinction may be a little blurred within the overall subculture. These religions have their roots in the tropes of early science fiction (especially space opera) and weird fiction writings, in ufology, and in the subculture of UFO sightings and alien abduction stories. Scientology is the largest UFO religion in the world, followed by Raëlism.

Olodo What Has This Got To Do With What Otemanuduno Has Been Preaching Since??
What is this one asking?
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by joe4christ(m): 5:58pm On Jul 25, 2016
OkaiCorne:


Kindly point out where I stated miracles are the exclusive preserve of Christians alone...

My point of view is that I have seen genuine miracles occur online real-time to the amazement of medical doctors as prayers are made in the name of Jesus. I guess that is coincidence to you.

If I may ask you a question, per chance you see a well prepared meal and you devour it, does it make sense to clean your mouth and conclude the meal was prepared by coincidence?

I hope you get where I'm coming from...

Another point you made on "Christians" visiting native doctors and eventually giving "testimony" in church should be a pointer to the fact that everyone who goes to church are not true Christians. You've got to discern the fake from the genuine and know where you stand.

I repeat, the TRUTH is better experienced than being told. If I talk all day, I can't convince you. A personal experience will surely put this to rest.

I honestly feel the pain of man to explain certain things beyond our realm of existence, trying to decipher the ways of the master of the universe is like trying to use the mental capacity of an ant to decipher the ways of a human being...




So, if miracle is not exclusive to only the Christian faith, then it either means there are other gods who are keened at meeting their followers needs and your God is not the only true God as there are other gods which you also must respect. So, if the Christians do perform miracle and other faith do too in their own way, what does that imply to you? Doesn't that simply prove that nature takes care of it's inhabitants irrespective of religious ties? Isn't that the point otem has been trying to let buttress to you?
Nature does it's Wonders and yet doesn't take glory for it, you just have to understand that mother nature meats our need (though not all times) and that's why it's called coincidence, and when these needs are met miraculously via religious channel u tag them miracle from your God, though nature does not have any problem with that, but for someone like me, I've evolved enough to understand the mysteries behind what you call miracle, and so when I see the Christians jubilating over it, I just laugh. People who designed religion are master deceptionists, and spiritualists too, they know some spiritual principles and took advantage of it to promote their objectives, same way most cult of do... Religion is just a scam, you will only realise this when you begin to without sentiments, rationally probe and question every doctrine and teachings you were taught.

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Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by Goddys(m): 6:04pm On Jul 25, 2016
where is Otemanuduno. He seems to be inactive for sometime now. Otem hope you are fine?
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by realmindz: 6:24pm On Jul 25, 2016
Muafrika2:

Stop getting emotional


All UFO religions and their "revelations" do not date beyond 1947. Since then, "chosen" people like Otem have been dreaming and taking the cult to new gullible souls like you...

The term “flying saucers” and the popular notion of the UFO originated in 1947. The 1950s saw the creation of UFO religions, with the advent of the purported contactees.

Read more about UFOS Religion here
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_religion
I'm sorry my friend, ur comprehension ability is in doubt
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by realmindz: 6:25pm On Jul 25, 2016
Goddys:
where is Otemanuduno. He seems to be inactive for sometime now. Otem hope you are fine?
no he's not fine, he's some whr begging for bread and has been struck by jehovah
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by Nobody: 6:45pm On Jul 25, 2016
realmindz:

I'm sorry my friend, ur comprehension ability is in doubt
Feeling better?

Now run along. Stop spamming Otem's bible.
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by otemanuduno: 7:45pm On Jul 25, 2016
realmindz:

no he's not fine, he's some whr begging for bread and has been struck by jehovah

grin grin grin

Lol. So Goddys is still believing that his god's going to do something
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by Goddys(m): 8:33pm On Jul 25, 2016
otemanuduno:


grin grin grin

Lol. So Goddys is still believing that his god's going to do something
Dear friend,I don't wish you ill please.When has asking after your welfare turned to wishing you ill.
Inasmuch as we are on the opposite sides of belief, I enjoy your presence and sarcasm a times. Far be it from me I wish you ill.
i only do remember you in my prayers for my God to show you the real TRUTH

Is it because I asked after your welfare that you are prompted to start your Q&A session for the month to show you are not begging? Take it easy brother and dont go stressing yourself just to keep up with your....
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by OkaiCorne(m): 9:34pm On Jul 25, 2016
joe4christ:



So, if miracle is not exclusive to only the Christian faith, then it either means there are other gods who are keened at meeting their followers needs and your God is not the only true God as there are other gods which you also must respect. So, if the Christians do perform miracle and other faith do too in their own way, what does that imply to you? Doesn't that simply prove that nature takes care of it's inhabitants irrespective of religious ties? Isn't that the point otem has been trying to let buttress to you?
Nature does it's Wonders and yet doesn't take glory for it, you just have to understand that mother nature meats our need (though not all times) and that's why it's called coincidence, and when these needs are met miraculously via religious channel u tag them miracle from your God, though nature does not have any problem with that, but for someone like me, I've evolved enough to understand the mysteries behind what you call miracle, and so when I see the Christians jubilating over it, I just laugh. People who designed religion are master deceptionists, and spiritualists too, they know some spiritual principles and took advantage of it to promote their objectives, same way most cult of do... Religion is just a scam, you will only realise this when you begin to without sentiments, rationally probe and question every doctrine and teachings you were taught.

One question for you, was nature created or did it come by "coincidence"?

Another thing is, it's common knowledge religion is a scam, and it seems you don't get what I've been saying all this while. Once the TRUTH is experienced personally, the veil of religion is lifted from your eyes.

You and Otem are on a journey which I pretty much encourage. You've both separated from the herd to know what the TRUTH really is. Of course religious people will shout blasphemy and all that stuff (Jesus went through the same thing!)...but at the end of the journey (which I completely trust the master of the universe will not mislead you), you become much better of.

I only know of the one True GOD, He is called many names I really don't care about... I preferably call him the Master of the Universe and Father of All...

I entrust your very souls to Him as He has your user manual.

All the best...
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by OkaiCorne(m): 11:33am On Jul 26, 2016
How far, no updates again?
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by otemanuduno: 11:36am On Jul 26, 2016
OkaiCorne:
How far, no updates again?
Busy having fun with my broda. There are updates and it would be for the next two years.
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by otemanuduno: 11:43am On Jul 26, 2016
DANYAL
CHAPTER TEN
1. King Nebuchadnezzar sent a scroll to me, saying, I Nebuchadnezzar, the king of Babylon did see marvellous thing.
2. And I have decreed, saying, the God whom Dany-al serve shall be my God also.
3. For when I cast Meshak, Shadrak and Abdengr into the fire, I saw another with them, with the resemblance of the son of God which I have seen in my meditations before.
4. And he shielded the three men from the fire which I have made hot with sulphur. Now O Dany-al, I have demanded that the king of Persia should send you back to me, for both Ishtar and Mardukai my gods are not as profitable to me as you are.
5. For Ishtar has lifted up her heart in pride, doing those things which she does not do before. For when she saw that many worshipped her, she became a judge over them.
6. And the kingdom is divided, for many even called Ishtar their queen and Mardukai did they call their king. And I fear, saying, the kingdom shall someday fall into the hand of Ishtar and Mardukai, for they have the hearts of many with them already.
7. Now O Dany-al, return, for I have asked the king Ahasuerus to send you back to me. And I shall send Ishtar and Mardukai back to Persia.
8. Now Dany-al, I have decreed that your God should be served and worshipped, but we do not know how to do worship to him. So I have requested that you return to my land and be a priest of your God, teaching them to worship your God.
9. For your God alone is worthy of worship.
10. Now the king Ahasuerus has promised to send you back to Babylon, O Dany-al, and this shall be done not many days from now. Now get ready also to return to Babylon. For Mardukai and Ishtar shall also return to Persia, for I have made the arrangement to bring them to Persia again.
11. Now when I have read the letter, I was moved with emotion. And I lifted my face to the sky to bless the God of Nature.
12. Now my heart was fixed to return to Babylon, for I shall need to see the faces of my friends again.
13. I made myself ready to go to Babylon at the order of king Ahasuerus whom I perceived have received much gift from the hands of king Nebuchadnezzar, for the king loved to make merchandise of every situation.
14. Now on the set day did Darius rebel against king Ahasuerus and overcame him and bounded him up in prison. And Darius restored Asherah, the wife of Yahweh to Yeshua his son.
15. So was my journey to Babylon put to a halt, for Darius the new king of Medes and Persia did not consider me as Ahasuerus had done.
16. And I remained in Persia, in the land of Shushan.
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by OkaiCorne(m): 11:45am On Jul 26, 2016
otemanuduno:

Busy having fun with my broda. There are updates and it would be for the next two years.



Wait a minute, just saw it...
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by otemanuduno: 11:48am On Jul 26, 2016
DANYAL
CHAPTER ELEVEN

1. Before Darius took over from king Ahasuerus, the kingdom of Medes and Persia had become divided, for Memukan, who was one of the princes of Persia, had gone to establish his reign in Medes. And the homos of Medes had acknowledged him as their king, such that they went with him to war with king Ahasuerus.
2. Now Ahasuerus was in fierce battle to take back Medes from the hands of Memukan, but the armies of Memukan were strong. Now around that time did Yeshua stir up Darius, the captain of the armies of Ahasuerus, saying, you can be the ruler of both Medes and Persia if you wish to do so.
3. Are you not the captain of the armies of Ahasuerus? Now this is the manner which you shall do it; fight against Memukan and against Medes until you have subdued it. Then return to Ahasuerus the king and capture him also, if only you have won the hearts of all the armies to yourself.
4. Now when Darius heard this, he said, Yeshua, what do you have to gain from this? Shall this thing even be possible at all?
5. Then Yeshua said, Darius, this is very easy a thing to do. For it shall even be to your own benefit, because the kingdom of Ahasuerus is already divided against itself. And you know before as the proverbs say; no kingdom divided against itself can stand. Consider it and do it, for I know that it is your ambition to be the ruler of a kingdom as great as Medes and Persia.
6. Now do it for your own gain. But only one thing shall I desire from your hands. And that is, restore Sarah my wife to me. For since the time Ahasuerus had captured her, she had been sick.
7. Now Darius said, I shall do what you have said. Then Darius fought against Memukan and captured him. And he gained back the land of Medes.
8. Now after Darius had conquered Medes, he said to the armies who were of high rank, listen to me all of you; this battle did we fight, putting our life at risk. And king Ahasuerus who should have led the war stood back with all his princes at the banquets as usual with them, eating and drinking.
9. Now I will say this and if it pleases you, it shall be so. Let us go now to Shushan and capture both Ahasuerus and all his princes. And then shall we set ourselves as the rulers of the kingdom of Medes and Persia.
10. Now the suggestion of Darius pleased them all. And they went to Shushan. And Ahasuerus was glad that they had conquered the kingdom of Medes back for him. Then did Darius say, O king Ahasuerus, I shall pay your last respect to you, for you shall no more be king over this kingdom.
11. For I Darius have established my reign and no one can move it. Then Darius bowed his head to the king and said, now give me the crown of your head and crown me with it.
12. When Ahasuerus heard it, he was grieved. And he said, I shall not use my own hands to crown my subject. Now do what you wish for me, but I shall not crown you, O Darius.
13. When Ahasuerus did not obey Darius, he commanded that one of his armies should rip him off the royal garments and the crown. Then was Ahasuerus thrown into the prison.
14. Now the same day, Darius stood upon a high place and spoke to the people, saying, Ahasuerus is no more the king, but I, Darius is now the king of Persia and Medes. And I say, the kingdom of Persia and Medes shall be amalgamated. And the name which it shall be called is PERES.
15. Now Darius said, tell me where comes the name PERES which I have named my kingdom? Who knows from where this name is derived? Then many came to say all manner of things, but no one knew it. Even all the wise ones of the land did not know where it came from.
16. And I stood among the people of the land and said, I shall make my guess known. Then Darius the king commanded that I should be brought up to the high place as others were also.
17. And I said, O king, live long upon the throne. I have reasoned with my head and I have come up with the answer to your question. The name PERES did you get from the word Persia and Medes themselves. For the first three letters of the word PERsia and the last two letters of the word medES did you join together to come up with this name PERES.
18. Now when Darius heard this, he was amazed. For that is the meaning of it. And he said, what is your name? Then I said, Daniyal. Then the king said, your wisdom is great O Danyal.
19. Now tell me, how do you know this secret? Then I said, I see codes and words and numbers in my meditations. This has made many words easier for me to understand. I have learnt many languages of the world such that my head has been made excellent in matters of wisdom.
20. For in knowing many languages shall the intelligence of someone be made broad.
21. Now Darius began to observe me since that moment. But many homos of the kingdom of Peres began to regard me as a god since then; for they said that my intelligence is too great for a homo to possess, therefore I am a god.

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Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by otemanuduno: 12:04pm On Jul 26, 2016
DANYAL
CHAPTER TWELVE
1. Darius the king of Peres worshipped the god called Ahura Mazda, who had left the earth also. And he had set his image in a place to be worshipped. But Darius allowed everyone in his kingdom to worship whichever god they had chosen for themselves.
2. Now in the kingdom of Peres, there were they who worshipped Ishtar and Mardukai also, for the goodness of Isthar and Mardukai were great while they were in Peres.
3. Now when some heard that I was brought to replace Isthar and Mardukai their gods, they began to come after me to worship, but I said to them, I am a homo as you are. Now more homos worshipped me when they knew that I was the one who gave an answer to the question of Darius. But I told them, saying, Do no worship to me, for I demand no worship from you.
4. If you worship me, then you shall not do greater things than myself; but go and use your individual heads in meditation.
5. Now when Darius knew that many gathered at my chamber, he sent for me, saying, are you a god yourself, O Dany-al?
6. Then did I say, I am a nephilim of the descendants of the gods. But I am also an homo erectus, because my mother is an homo-erectus. But I worship no god and I do not also proclaim myself as a god, because I know there is one God above all; the God of the universe.
7. That God do I worship through meditation and the appreciation of nature.
8. Then Darius said to me, will you worship Ahura Mazda with me? I perceive that he is the God of all gods. And he is the king of all kings also.
9. Then I said to Darius, tell me what is the extent of the fame of Ahura Mazda. Then the king said, I know that he is well known in Philargas; in old Persia and Medes, in Mesoposh and even to Babylon.
10. Then I said, the books which Zoroash had written, which you have read, tell me how large is the extent of the earth which was written in it.
11. Then Darius said, of a truth, the earth was said to be made of one race, supposing that no other race was in it. But other scribes who came after Zoroash wrote in them of other races; for Zoroash was limited in knowledge when he wrote about Mazda, until other scribes began to see the races from Egypt, Hindi and from the land of Ethiopia.
12. Then I Dany-al said, if Zoroash the first prophet of Mazda your god does not know that the world was more than ten thousand times wider than the place he had first assumed as the entire world, then this should be known to you that Mazda is not a god who ruled over all the earth, let alone all the universe.
13. For many knew Mazda only as the god of Persia and its environs and not the god of the universe. Now this is the same for all other gods too. Consider the scrolls in Babylon which began with Enki and then hundreds of other gods also. And consider also they of Yacob, who worshipped Yahweh before and later, they cast Yahweh aside to worship Yeshua who proclaimed himself as the son of their god.
14. Then when the worship of Yeshua was made pronounced, he married his wife off to Yahweh his father who was not even present. And many began to worship even Asherah as a goddess. And now I hear that Solmani is the god of that place.
15. Now know this, O king, all these gods are not the universal god, for if they are, their dominion over the world shall be an everlasting one.
16. Now O king, the light of God has shone to both I and Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon that a time would come when many shall know that none of these gods is the universal God, but a creature of his. And then shall many connect to their heads to get knowledge directly from God.
17. And the homo of those times shall be very great in intelligence. And they shall do their worship directly to their God by the critical use of their brain.
18. Now when Darius heard this, he said, Dany-al, all these things you say, does it not amount to blasphemy? For who can speak against Ahura Mazda and escape it?
19. Then Dany-al said, O king, even Ahura Mazda which you speak about does not know at this moment that I speak against him. For he has left the world and only through meditation can he also see the world from the realm where he is. For the universe is both inside and outside the heads of everyone in the world. And to see the places in the universe which cannot be seen physically, a soul shall need go inside his spiritual self. But that is not an easy thing to do.
20. Now Darius said, I shall prove to you that Mazda can see all things. For I invoke the presence of my god now to humiliate you before all. And you shall know that Mazda, the Holy One is the only God. Did Zoroash not invoke the power of Mazda upon the ten worshippers of the daevas, when they spoke against his god? And Mazda came down upon them and burnt them with fire.
21. Then I said, that happened when Mazda was having his abode in the mountain Igit, which is at the east of Shushan. And because the eyesight of Mazda is as broad as to see a whole city at once, he saw from the mountain that Zoroash was invoking his presence. And he spat out great fire upon them when he had put fire in his mouth, mixing it with oil.
22. When Darius heard me, he laughed and said, you cannot be wiser than God. He shall surely show you his superiority O Dany-al. For your blasphemy is too much for you.
23. Now Darius said to me, go to your place and expect the humiliation of my God.
24. Now two days after, some came to my chamber and robbed it; for they had also robbed many places around, stealing ancient scrolls and the ones which were newly written. And they also stole all the scrolls which I have written.
25. Then did I weep greatly, for the scrolls which I have written were much. And I said, O Nature and the God of it, this is a great misfortune which has befallen me. For all the scrolls which I have written of all the dreams and all the visions which I have seen did the thieves take away.
26. Now how shall I remember all the signs and symbols which I have written in them? How shall I see them again, O Light of God?
27. Now when Darius heard that I was in a grave mood, he sent for me and I knew why he had sent for me; for it is to make mockery of me.
28. Now when I got to the palace of Darius, he said, Dany-al, I heard that you are grieved. Now tell me what has happened to you.
29. Then I said, do not mock me O king. For all these things must surely happen as I was told, but I shall remain strong.
30. Then Darius laughed and said, Mazda, the God over all things has proved himself to be God. For you blasphemed his name two days back and he has visited you to take away all the things which you cherish.
31. Now I said, how is this the work of Mazda, O king? For I am not the only one robbed by these thieves. Was Ugamim the priest of Mazda not also robbed of many scrolls? Are the people of the town of Zush not also robbed of their tablets? So I see no hand of your god in this occurrence.
32. When Darius heard it, he said, Danyal, your heart is darkened to your own destruction. Do you not know that all they who were robbed could have also spoken against Mazda in their hearts? And so he sought to punish them with great consequences. For who knows if Ugamim the priest of Mazda has also blasphemed him in his heart.
33. Now O Dany-al, return to your house and weep out your eyes in tears, for this which has happened to you is the beginning of the visitation of Mazda upon you. And if you do not cease to annoy him with your blasphemy, he shall destroy you and condemn your soul in the afterlife.
34. Now while Darius was still speaking, one of the knights came in and said, O king, let your crown be forever on your head. A great misfortune has visited the palace, O king. For some broke into the palace, and went into the strong house where all the ancient scrolls and images are kept.
35. And they have taken both the gold and the silver in the strong house. Did they not also take the ancient tablets of Zoroash with them? And they fled through the lattice and the tunnel leading to your vineyard.
36. Now when we chased after them, they set the places around ablaze and went right through the tunnel. Now O king, as I speak, the places where the bows and arrows and all the great engines are kept are all burnt up.
37. And all the holy books which they did not take away has caught fire also.
38. Now when Darius heard this, he was very angry. Then he said, how did they get into the palace? How did they have access? What have you done, you knights? Who gave them the master plan of Shushan and of the palace?
39. And the knight said, we do not know how they got it, but we have caught one of them. And he is with us now. Then Darius said, bring him to me. Then they brought the criminal to Darius. Now in anger did Darius slap him on the face, saying, who sent you to this place to commit this great evil?
40. Then he said, O king, is it not Yeshua of the land of Yacob? For he gave us hundred shekels of silver each, saying, go and take all the ancient things in the land of Persia.
41. Now when Darius heard it, he cast his crown away and tore his robe. Then he swore, saying, O Yeshua, may you be cursed for this evil you have done to our land.
42. For you made friend with me and motivated me to take the kingdom from Ahasuerus. Then I showed you round the kingdom and gave your wife Asherah to you, according to my vow.
43. Have I done any bad thing by fulfilling my own part of the vow? How then did you rise suddenly against me and do these things which you have done?
44. Now O Yeshua, be cursed upon the earth. Let that which you did to me be also done to you and your kingdom.
45. Now as Darius continued in his cursing, some of the knights came in with the body of Yistas, the queen who was greatly loved by Darius. And they said, O king, this is Yistas your wife. For she was ran upon by the intruders when they were escaping the palace.
46. And she is now stone dead.
47. When Darius heard this, he took his sword and cut off the head of the criminal standing before him. Then did he cast himself down and wept greatly. For he loved Yistas with all his soul. And for days he ate no food and drank no wine. And he behaved strangely, telling everyone to leave his presence except me.

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Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by otemanuduno: 12:21pm On Jul 26, 2016
CHAPTER THIRTEEN

1. Now the king was very sick, for the death of Yistas his first wife had made him weak. Then I wrote some songs to console him. And I read it into his ears, perhaps he would be consoled.
2. Now I said, Darius the king of the greatest kingdom; the powerful one. One whose strength is worth more than the strength of the unicorn.
3. The polite king, whose policy is made to favour both the poor and the rich. You are loving and caring when love has become a stranger.
4. You are of great humility, bringing me into your presence even when I share not the same belief with you.
5. Your wings are spread out like that of the eagles. And you carry in them strength and beauty. Who among the kings of philargas is as strong as Darius?
6. The sole of your feet, O king, is a blessing to the ground which you tread. Let the halo set upon your head and let the rainbow be your helmet.
7. Let the muscles of your hands be strengthened and let great comfort come to your soul.
8. O Darius, the strength of Perez, arise and gather yourself up again. For the kingdom of Perez shall be strengthened if you are strengthened. And the joy of Perez shall know no bound if you stand on your feet again.
9. Consider not the demise of Yistas as a thing of sorrow, O king, for she is in a happier state now. And she sees that you are in a sorrowful state. And she desires that you should arise and sit on your throne again.
10. For if you remain in this state, Perez shall be broken apart to Persia and Medes again, which are the two kingdoms you fused together to form it.
11. Take your staff again and hold on to power. Stand in the gap for Peres and let the strength of your chest hold up the kingdom.
12. Do not be cast down O king, for it is befitting that you arise again.
13. Let your power be mighty O king. Let your strength overwhelm the kingdom of Peres. Take the kingdom forward until it is stronger than diamond. For I see Peres to be well established.
14. O Darius, the king over many kings, what shall be said of you if you remain weak? Shall they not come upon you and conquer you? Now shake off the sorrow of your heart and do exploit again. For you are meant to put together some things which shall be the foundation to the development of inventions of the future people.
15. Therefore set the sole of your feet to the ground again and lead the world into the future. For what you are brought to the world to do is not complete yet.
16. For you have a long way to go.
17. King Darius rose up by the strength of the words which he had heard. And he said, Dany’al the righteous, be greatly blessed by the God whom you serve. I have accepted my fate and I shall take my mind off them and go for only the present and the future things.
18. So five days after the misfortune, Darius rose again and sat upon his throne.
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by otemanuduno: 9:07pm On Jul 26, 2016
CHAPTER FOURTEEN
1. Shadrak, one of the captives, my friend in Babylon took it upon himself to write to me the happenings in Babylon. And he wrote to me many times in a month to let me know of those things which happened in Babylon. And I also write to him, and to Meshak and Shadrak.
2. So I knew the things which happened to Babylon since the time of my departure.
3. In the third year of the reign of Darius in Peres, Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon fled the kingdom when Belshazzar his son came fiercely against him; for both Ishtar and Mardukai had connived with Belshazzar to revolt against his father.
4. Now Ishtar had become great in Babylon, and her heart was made proud, saying, it is good to do bad and it is bad to do good. For when I did good in the land of Deutsche, evil came my way. And I was poisoned. Now if I do bad, I shall have good things.
5. Now Ishtar did much evil to the homos of the land. And she was greatly feared by other gods of the land, for she had many followers. Now Ishtar began to take the husbands of many nephilias. And her strength became very great, such that many kings submitted to her leading. Even Gilgamesh the king of Uruk and the king of the old Sumeria where Solmani lived in before. But Gilgamesh rebelled against her after, and she sent wild bulls after him. But the king of Uruk destroyed the bulls in their multitude. Then he made a very strong fence around his kingdom to prevent the bulls of Ishtar from intruding into it.
6. Now Belshazzar the son of Nebuchadnezzar reigned over Babylon and did much evil to the people, according to the instruction of Ishtar. For Ishtar did good to only those who served her with all their minds. And she sent bulls after those who did not serve her all day.
7. Now when Babylon was turned into a place of great chaos, a priest of Enki, the son of God who found Babylon, went into a very deep meditation, seeking to hear from Enki. Now it happened as he wished, after fasting for about twelve days.
8. Now the name of the priest was Agaram. Now Agaram saw Enki in his vision and said, O god of Babylon, the city which you have found is in great chaos, for Nebuchadnezzar the king has fled when his son took over. For Now Ishtar the goddess of the land has made herself so strong. And it was by her hands that Belshazzar took over from him and sent him to flight.
9. Now O god, come again to our land and restore peace to it, for the reign of Ishtar and of Belshazzar is cruel upon us.
10. Now Enki said, do not worry, O Agaram. For I have seen the future of Babylon when I went to the heavenlies. For things to happen cannot be hindered. For Belshazzar shall be suddenly destroyed because he rose against his father, except if he shall leave the throne of his father and flee from Babylon shall he save his life.
11. Now king Nebuchadnezzar shall return to the throne and shall take it back. For the evil which Belshazzar did is too great, seeking to destroy his father and take up his throne.
12. Now as for Ishtar, let her be, for she shall know by experience that doing good instead of evil is more profitable. For whatever one does shall be put in the books; whether they are good or whether they are bad.
13. And generations to come shall read the things which an evildoer has done, and they shall hate such one.
14. Now I say, Agaram, go your own way, for Belshazzar shall be judged according to the things which he has done. Likewise shall Nebuchadnezzar be judged for taking the worship away from me to direct it to both Ishtar and Mardukai who were only nephilims. But I, the founder of the world did they not worship anymore.
15. Now when Agaram heard this, he was very happy.
16. Now a time came when Belshazzar ascended into his higher self. And he saw a glimpse of Enki the son of God in his vision. And Enki gave him a tablet which he had written upon with codes. And the code which he wrote was MENE TEKEL PERES.
17. Now when Belshazzar woke up, he was greatly troubled, because the face of Enki which he saw in his dream was not a cheerful face but one which was angry.
18. Then did Belshazzar call together all the wise men in his kingdom. And they put together all the codes which they had gotten from their meditations in the times past, but none of the codes fitted those which Belshazzar saw, but only PERES which Shadrak had heard from Dany’al before concerning the united kingdoms of Medes and Persia.
19. Now Belshazzar said, tell me, is there no other soul in my kingdom or beyond who is a great seer of codes?
20. Then did Shadrak mention me to Belshazzar, saying, Dany’al of Hittite is very well vast in codes. For he has learnt much wisdom from meditations. And he shall give to you the thing which you request.
21. Now Belshazzar sent for me. And I received order from Darius the king to go to Babylon and to return three days after.
22. Now when I have reached Babylon, I was led to Belshazzar. And Belshazzar said, O Dany’al of the greatest God, come to my banquet and explain this thing which was written by the finger of our God Enki. For I saw him in my vision and he gave me a tablet on which I saw this.
23. Now when I woke up, I wrote the word upon this cuneiform, but none of my wise men knows the meaning of it.
24. Now when I saw the codes, I was familiar with it. And I explained the meaning of it to Belshazzar one after the other. And I said, MENE is a code for weighing something and TEKEL is another which means imperfection. And PERES is the kingdom of Persia and Medes.
25. Now Belshazzar the king, This is the interpretation of your vision. Enki the god of your land has seen all the things which you and all kings before you have done in Babylon and he is angry at you all.
26. And he has weighed your good deeds against your bad deeds and has found you all guilty. Now Enki has promised to bring the kingdom of Persia and Medes upon Babylon to conquer it and take it up.
27. Now O Belshazzar, the king of Peres shall come upon Babylon suddenly and shall destroy the royal blood. For he shall not spare anyone who is upon the throne.
28. Now when Belshazzar heard this, he said, blessed be Dany’al of the most high, who has saved my life from destruction. Then Belshazzar named me Belteshazzar which is interpreted THE SAVER OF THE LIFE OF BELSHAZZAR.
29. Now the king left the throne after hearing what shall befall anyone who is upon it. And no one knew where he went. And Babylon had no king for about six years, because no one would take up the position of the kingship because they feared my revelation.
30. And Ishtar herself had left the world, thinking to make her abode around the vicinity of the valley of the shadow of death. For she wished to continue to torment those whom she had killed even after their death.
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by joe4christ(m): 10:29am On Jul 27, 2016
OkaiCorne:


One question for you, was nature created or did it come by "coincidence"?

Another thing is, it's common knowledge religion is a scam, and it seems you don't get what I've been saying all this while. Once the TRUTH is experienced personally, the veil of religion is lifted from your eyes.

You and Otem are on a journey which I pretty much encourage. You've both separated from the herd to know what the TRUTH really is. Of course religious people will shout blasphemy and all that stuff (Jesus went through the same thing!)...but at the end of the journey (which I completely trust the master of the universe will not mislead you), you become much better of.

I only know of the one True GOD, He is called many names I really don't care about... I preferably call him the Master of the Universe and Father of All...

I entrust your very souls to Him as He has your user manual.

All the best...

Now, you've earned my respect. You sure have evolved... What u wrote above is the truth and I share same belief with you on this. But u just got to agree that Otem is doing a wonderful job. Cos his write up is so expository. But I'm most certain it's not the absolute truth, as no belief system holds the absolute truth and clue to the mysteries of Godliness and life,I repeat , no religion on planet earth holds it. None!
So, only an evolved soul could really come to this conclusion and know this for certain...
Bless you cool
Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by OkaiCorne(m): 10:47am On Jul 27, 2016
joe4christ:


Now, you've earned my respect. You sure have evolved... What u wrote above is the truth and I share same belief with you on this. But u just got to agree that Otem is doing a wonderful job. Cos his write up is so expository. But I'm most certain it's not the absolute truth, as no belief system holds the absolute truth and clue to the mysteries of Godliness and life,I repeat , no religion on planet earth holds it. None!
So, only an evolved soul could really come to this conclusion and know this for certain...
Bless you cool

Bless you too brother, may the Master of the Universe continually help us on our journey in this realm of existence. cool

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