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brocab:
You are upset with John 74 when you say he used the one verse to prove you said the two headed god, and now you throw the same act with me, you use one verse without explaining the rest of the subject, which was about the divine nature, that you refuse to believe, of course dolphinheart you have proven to us you are a bigger hypocrite.

a beg , which verse are you talking about?
haha, it's easy for me to post the full text for all to see, I'll do so here and let's see if you can explain the flesh going to he'll part with divine nature!
EVERYONE, THIS IS THE FULL TEXT OF HIS POST , PLS NOTICE THE GREEN COLORED AND UNDERLINED PART ABOUT FLESH AND HELL!

brocab:
What dolphinheart failed to answer this one correctly. Does he ever answer any of them correctly?
Dolphinheart we know these websites are off limits for you, and the JW's don't approve you to read other sites that may lead you into the truth about Christ-but listen, no-one will know? But you need to understand One must be born again before he/she has anything to do with the divine nature. HE/SHE CAN NOT ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD WITHOUT BEING BORN AGAIN WHICH IS PART OF THE DIVINE NATURE.
If you chose not to listen to me, then at least give some thought and look into these web sites.
http://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/gills-exposition-of-the-bible/2-peter-1-4.html
Look up this website below, and find out why your organisation won't educate you concerning the Word of God. http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/higher-education-university.php
Quote>Dolphinheart said>therefore brocab, divine nature cannot be in the flesh. Peter was still a mortal till he died, therefore he did not have divine nature till he died. Dolphinheart don't believe Paul as a man in the flesh was also filled with the Holy Spirit being a partaker of the divine nature before He died?
If Paul didn't have the Spirit of God, the divine, then how did he have it after he had died?
His flesh would end up in hell, where your flesh is heading.
Having God's divine nature Paul was transformed into heaven {Philippians 3:20-21}
Dolphinhearts second quote>therefore brocab you can have the holy spirit. Dolphinheart refuses to have the Spirit of God?
Isn't the Holy Spirit part of the Godhead the divine, and you refuse to have Him. No-wonder nothing you write makes any sense and your spirit is dead while trying to understand the scriptures.

For the benefit of doubt, brocab, PLS tell me
1. what did you mean with the statement : "His flesh would end up in hell, where your flesh is heading."
2. solite3, says he believes that soul and body go to hell, do you agree with him?

Readers, PLS note, that unlike theirs accusations, I did not alter, modify , delete parts of, or add to their sentence!. Secondly as you can see, I've given him an opportunity to explain his sentence and not try at all times to explain his words to him!

Us Christians have been warned about snakes like you, can I ask your mother to punch you right on your nose, and when you ask why she did that to you, she will say because I have a son like you.

PLS don't mention my mother okay!.

brocab:
Don't you just love me?

yes I love you, just don't love your character, your trying to use character defamation, lies , forgery to achieve your aim!

READERS PLS NOTE.
This verses where quoted by John74
johnw74 :
Rev 1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
Rev 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
Rev 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
Rev 1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
Rev 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

johnw74 now said:
"John described the Spirit body of the Angel of the Lord:
white head and hair, eyes as a flame of fire, feet like fine brass,
his tongue also would have been spirit, perhaps you think it would have been flesh and blood
@jessicha, dolphinheart, jozzy4:
Jud 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts."

I ASKED THE QUESTION AND I SPECIFIED WHO THE QUESTION IS BEING DIRECTED TO
@ solite3, look at the bolded, do you believe spirits have bodies?
@ solite3, do you believe humans have this kind of body after they die?
@ Johnw74, this body that you say the angel has, is it the same as the one the rich man has in hell?
@johnw74, (concerning second bolded above )look at brocabs own words posted about the flesh and hell.
11:27pm, June 17, page 96 of these thread, brocab said thus :
" His flesh would end up in hell, where you flesh is heading"
so do you believe brocab, do you believe flesh goes to hell?

PLS CAN YOU NOTICE THEY ARE GIVING EXCUSES, REFUSING TO ANSWER THE QUESTION!

Jessicha:
@ bold , are you okay at all , I don't think so. someone played a trick with me and you called that an humor ! do u think this kind of thing is a joking matter


Proverb 26 describe you as a °Madman°

"

18 Like a madman who shoots fiery missiles, arrows, and death 19 Is the man who plays a trick on his neighbor and says, “I was only joking!”

Pro 26:17 He who passes by enraging himself over strife not his own is like one who takes a dog by the ears,
Pro 26:18 or like a madman who throws firebrands, arrows, and death.
Pro 26:19 so is the man who deceives his neighbor and says, Am I not joking?

you should have posted the before verse but that would have been honest
and you wouldn't have been able to accuse of being mad
bro was not about strife but was having fun, and I was not enraged at his having fun
however you sound enraged and mad
and satan like you has no sense of humour also

me think you being hysterical

dolphinheart:
wait till forgery is committed in your name, and you are told it's only homour.

you have no discernment to tell the difference

dolphinheart:
lawyer John,

I didn't think you thought that highly off me

dolphinheart:
your excuse is like catching a thief stealing your property and he says he is only playing with you!

duh, a joke and someone stealing from you are quite different

dolphinheart:
how can you be interested!
when truth is shown to you, you become not interested

lie lie dolphinheart

it's impossible for you not to lie and falsely accuse

dolphinheart:
you commented on the issue, but when questions that will expose you is being brought out, your interest dissapears!

my one post in a debate of many posts fits into my statement of: "not to interested"
but you love to lie

dolphinheart:
there was nothing to reply to
1. you could not post the full text of my post
2. you could not comment on "your god is two persons in one"
3. you could not show where you responded to my explanation on the scriptures you posted
4. on John 1:1, you could not respond to my post constructively when I talked about that verse, so why should I repeat myself!.

ha ha repeating your lies is what you do most, and there is more of them

you lie lie dolphinheart called god "a two headed god"

dolphinheart:
it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!.


lie lie dolphinheart


The Opening Post was about John 1:1 and the Word being God

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

You lie lie dolphinheart said concerning my God and the God of all Christians,
that is, concerning John 1:1 and the Word being God:

"your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

dolphinheart:
"it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."



dolphinheart, you heap way big lie lie

dolphinheart:
READERS PLS NOTE.
This verses where quoted by John74
johnw74 :
Rev 1:12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
Rev 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
Rev 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
Rev 1:15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
Rev 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

johnw74 now said:
"John described the Spirit body of the Angel of the Lord:
white head and hair, eyes as a flame of fire, feet like fine brass,
his tongue also would have been spirit, perhaps you think it would have been flesh and blood
@jessicha, dolphinheart, jozzy4:
Jud 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts."

I ASKED THE QUESTION AND I SPECIFIED WHO THE QUESTION IS BEING DIRECTED TO
@ solite3, look at the bolded, do you believe spirits have bodies?
@ solite3, do you believe humans have this kind of body after they die?
@ Johnw74, this body that you say the angel has, is it the same as the one the rich man has in hell?
@johnw74, (concerning second bolded above )look at brocabs own words posted about the flesh and hell.
11:27pm, June 17, page 96 of these thread, brocab said thus :
" His flesh would end up in hell, where you flesh is heading"
so do you believe brocab, do you believe flesh goes to hell?

PLS CAN YOU NOTICE THEY ARE GIVING EXCUSES, REFUSING TO ANSWER THE QUESTION!

@bold just above, you lie lie dolphinheart cannot see or believe the truth as there is no truth in you
truly again, I'm not to interested in your debate as I said, and as you cannot possibly believe truth

of course Jesus was right about pharisee jw:
Joh_8:44 Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

johnw74:
I'm not to interisted in your hell- spirit body-flesh body debate
else I would be in it with many scriptures

but you are just getting away from answering my post on your blaspheming

it's here: https://www.nairaland.com/2720878/jehovahs-witnesses-17-facts-people/110#48043376

Jozzy4:
hahahaha am seriously enjoying this display of confusion.

so which kind of body do you think Jesus is talking about ? does the context not tell you Jesus is reffering to this earthly body ?

I am not surprised at your disbelief even dolphinsheart has denied the bodily resurrection of Christ already your organization which was planted by a Freemason is yielding her fruit already but I urge you to think twice before its too late . have you once thought if you are following the bible or your reasoning.

YOU HAVE REFUSE TO BELIEVE IN THE TRINITY
BECAUSE IT DOES NOT FOLLOW YOUR REASONING

YOU REFUSE TO BELIEVE JESUS RESURRECTED BECAUSE IT DOES NOT SUITE YOUR REASONING

YOU REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS HELL ONLY BECAUSE IT DOES NOT RHYME WITH YOU PHILOSOPHY

YOU REFUSE TO BELIEVE THE SCRIPTURE EXCEPT IT HAS BEEN DILUTED BY YOUR
SOCIETY

IF YOU DIE LIKE THIS YOU ARE IN FOR A SHOCK.

YES THOSE WHO ARE IN HELL POSSES A BODY THAT WILL MAKE THEM SUFFER!
EXAMPLE , THE RICH MAN TOLD ABRAHAM TO TELL LAZARUS TO DIP[b] HIS FIGERS[/b] IN water
Luke 16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

Mind you this is not a parable!
How? Because names of real people are mentioned.
Lazarus and Abraham
Jesus never make parables with real names.

One verse of the bible popularly misquoted by jhws is

Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

However that's not all
See
Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
9:6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.

This is interesting @ bold tells us the point the writer is making
He is not saying the dead no longer exist but rather they can no longer participate to anything done on earth not only that, they also have no knowledge of things done under the sun.

Another misquoted verse is

Psalms 88:10 Wilt thou shew wonders to the dead? shall the dead arise and praise thee? Selah.

Who are the dead who cannot praise God?
Psalms 88:5 Free among the dead, like the slain that lie in the grave, whom thou rememberest no more: and they are cut off from thy hand.

Wonderful@ they are the ones who are cut off from God.
David in that chapter was expressing his fear of dying as a sinner
But look at what Jesus says about the righteous

Matthew 22:32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.


2 Thessalonians 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

HELL IS FOR ETERNITY NO GOING BACK IN HELL!

SHALLOM

So how can you say you love me, without loving my character-you are married right? And when you married your wife/husband, he/she had a different character, and still you spend more time with either "with love?
And because you believe you to are the son of God, as a brother in Christ I like you too, and because I am trying to correct your mistakes about the word of God, you seem to feel I don't like you well enough, and of course you then start to ramp and rave, claiming I am against you with passion.
{John 21:17} Jesus said to Simon-Peter do you love Me? So dolphinheart I ask do you love me?

dolphinheart:
yes I love you, just don't love your character, your trying to use character defamation, lies , forgery to achieve your aim!

Those who call themselves Jehovah's Witnesses, but are not and do lie
and are the church of satan, preach that Jesus-the Word is not God

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Joh_4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.



God and the Word is God John 1:1
God is a Spirit John 4:24
= God and the word is the Spirit of God

Joh_14:23 Jesus answered and said to him, If a man loves Me, he will keep My Word. And My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him.

solite3:
[s] I am not surprised at your disbelief even dolphinsheart has denied the bodily resurrection of Christ already your organization which was planted by a Freemason is yielding her fruit already but I urge you to think twice before its too late . have you once thought if you are following the bible or your reasoning.

YOU HAVE REFUSE TO BELIEVE IN THE TRINITY
BECAUSE IT DOES NOT FOLLOW YOUR REASONING

YOU REFUSE TO BELIEVE JESUS RESURRECTED BECAUSE IT DOES NOT SUITE YOUR REASONING

YOU REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS HELL ONLY BECAUSE IT DOES NOT RHYME WITH YOU PHILOSOPHY

YOU REFUSE TO BELIEVE THE SCRIPTURE EXCEPT IT HAS BEEN DILUTED BY YOUR
SOCIETY

IF YOU DIE LIKE THIS YOU ARE IN FOR A SHOCK.

YES THOSE WHO ARE IN HELL POSSES A BODY THAT WILL MAKE THEM SUFFER!
EXAMPLE , THE RICH MAN TOLD ABRAHAM TO TELL LAZARUS TO DIP[b] HIS FIGERS[/b] IN water
Luke 16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

Mind you this is not a parable!
How? Because names of real people are mentioned.
Lazarus and Abraham
Jesus never make parables with real names.
[/s]

@ underlined, just tell us those in hell will have this earthly Body Or u are not sure of what u are saying.

One thing is to read, another is to understand .. Does the context of Matt 10:28 not tell you Jesus is reffering to this earthly body ?

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johnw74:
Pro 26:17 He who passes by enraging himself over strife not his own is like one who takes a dog by the ears,

Are u not proving that scripture right that u indeed can be compared with a °Madman°

The bold doesn't affect me at all, cos the issue actually involve me . so am not enrage at something not mine. Actually INVOLVE ME

Pro 26:18 or like a madman who throws firebrands, arrows, and death.
Pro 26:19 so is the man who deceives his neighbor and says, Am I not joking?

Yes , someone who call forgery and deceit humour actually is not different from a °Madman°

you should have posted the before verse but that would have been honest
and you wouldn't have been able to accuse of being mad
bro was not about strife but was having fun, and I was not enraged at his having fun
however you sound enraged and mad
and satan like you has no sense of humour also

me think you being hysterical

Who quote enrage for you . I quote that verse to let you know who u resemble when u call a fraud , deceit . humour meaning joke.

°Madman°

johnw74:
lie lie dolphinheart

it's impossible for you not to lie and falsely accuse



my one post in a debate of many posts fits into my statement of: "not to interested"
but you love to lie



ha ha repeating your lies is what you do most, and there is more of them

you lie lie dolphinheart called god "a two headed god"

dolphinheart:
it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!.


lie lie dolphinheart


The Opening Post was about John 1:1 and the Word being God

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

You lie lie dolphinheart said concerning my God and the God of all Christians,
that is, concerning John 1:1 and the Word being God:

"your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

dolphinheart:
"it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."



dolphinheart, you heap way big lie lie

there was nothing to reply to
1. you could not post the full text of my post
2. you could not comment on "your god is two persons in one"
3. you could not show where you responded to my explanation on the scriptures you posted
4. on John 1:1, you could not respond to my post constructively when I talked about that verse, so why should I repeat myself!.
5. you could not do without modifying my words and giving it your own false explanations.

solite3:
I am not surprised at your disbelief even dolphinsheart has denied the bodily resurrection of Christ already your organization which was planted by a Freemason is yielding her fruit already but I urge you to think twice before its too late . have you once thought if you are following the bible or your reasoning.

I have not seen where dolphinsheart posted one single letter on this thread.
We were talking about that resurrection before, you made a post where you added large parts of my words to make it look as if you where the one who said it, I've asked you to modify it so I can respond, but you refused to! no problem, na your way!

YOU HAVE REFUSE TO BELIEVE IN THE TRINITY
BECAUSE IT DOES NOT FOLLOW YOUR REASONING

you yourself can't even explain what trinity is , different idealogies, different teachings about trinity, which one do you believe?
This could be discussed soon, but for now, I'm still trying to get all of you to tell us what goes to he'll. is it the spirit, body or soul, or is it 2 of these three , or is it the three.
solite3 has said body and soul, brocab said only spirit. WHO ARE WE TO BELIEVE!

YOU REFUSE TO BELIEVE JESUS RESURRECTED BECAUSE IT DOES NOT SUITE YOUR REASONING

stop lying!

YOU REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS HELL ONLY BECAUSE IT DOES NOT RHYME WITH YOU PHILOSOPHY

pls what is hell?, I asked this customer you might have a different understanding of the word from mine!

YOU REFUSE TO BELIEVE THE SCRIPTURE EXCEPT IT HAS BEEN DILUTED BY YOUR
SOCIETY

pls point to one verse that has been diluted by my society, though I hope you can do this after telling us about what goes to hell, don't use it to change the present topic!

IF YOU DIE LIKE THIS YOU ARE IN FOR A SHOCK.

YES THOSE WHO ARE IN HELL POSSES A BODY THAT WILL MAKE THEM SUFFER!
EXAMPLE , THE RICH MAN TOLD ABRAHAM TO TELL LAZARUS TO DIP[b] HIS FIGERS[/b] IN water
Luke 16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

Mind you this is not a parable!
How? Because names of real people are mentioned.
Lazarus and Abraham
Jesus never make parables with real names.

what kind of body do they possess?

solite3:
One verse of the bible popularly misquoted by jhws is

Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

However that's not all
See
Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
9:6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.

This is interesting @ bold tells us the point the writer is making
He is not saying the dead no longer exist but rather they can no longer participate to anything done on earth not only that, they also have no knowledge of things done under the sun.

1. It seems you do not understand the conjunction"neither"
2. let's look at the verses again :
King James Version
Ec 9:5For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neitherhave they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

solite3, look at the blue coloured part again and tell if it's true or not that the living know that they will die. If you believe this to be true, why don't you believe the part after the comma that says "but the dead know not anything"!
other translators translated that part as "but the dead do not know anything" or " the dead know nothing"
the verse did not say the dead do not know nothing about someplace or somewhere or something, it simply tells you that the dead know nothing!, so wherever you might conjure the dead to be, it simply knows nothing.
to show you how your false teachings contradict themselves, you said " they also have no knowledge of things done under the sun".this is contrary to your claims about the rich man and his awareness of his brothers who are still alive. also is Abraham not dead, has he been resurrected when you claim lazarus went to meet him!, how come a dead person knows about the rich man brothers. you yourself can see how anytime you try to explain the scriptures under your false teachings, it keeps on contradicting itself.
now let's go to the green part, the word neither:
neither /ˈnʌɪðə,ˈniː-/
determiner pronoun
not the one nor the other of two people or things; not either.
adverb
1. used before the first of two (or occasionally more) alternatives (the others being introduced by ‘nor’) to indicate that they are each untrue or each does not happen.
2. used to introduce a further negative statement.
can you see the definitions of neither there, can you see the underlined words?
The verse is talking about two things , two negative things, two alternatives, don't use the second one to determine what the first is saying!

King James Version
Ec 9:6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.

this part exposes your false teachings further, first let me ask you, this love , hate and envy, is it talking about those of the living or those of the dead?
We all know that love, hatred and envy are parts of human emotion, and the scriptures says that this emotion do not exist any longer. Some translators use "long gone", "vanished" ,"perished", "dissapeared".
In simple terms, the verse is telling us the dead have no emotion!

Another misquoted verse is

Psalms 88:10 Wilt thou shew wonders to the dead? shall the dead arise and praise thee? Selah.

Who are the dead who cannot praise God?
Psalms 88:5 Free among the dead, like the slain that lie in the grave, whom thou rememberest no more: and they are cut off from thy hand.

Wonderful@ they are the ones who are cut off from God.
David in that chapter was expressing his fear of dying as a sinner
But look at what Jesus says about the righteous

Matthew 22:32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

does the verse indicate the psalmist will praise God after death, to show that it's only the sinners that will praise God after death? no
Ps 115:17 The deaddo not praise Jah; Nor do any who go down into the silence of death.

Ps 6:5 For in death there is no mention of you; In the Grave, who will praise you?

Ps 146:4His spirit goes out, he returns to the ground; On that very day his thoughts perish.

Ps 30:9What profit is there in my death, in my going down to the pit? Will the dust praise you? Will it tell of your faithfulness?

Isa 38:18For the Grave cannot glorify you, Death cannot praise you. Those who go down into the pit cannot hope for your faithfulness.

Ec 9:10Whatever your hand finds to do, do with all your might, [color=red]for there is no work nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in the Grave, WHERE YOU ARE GOING.

2 Thessalonians 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

HELL IS FOR ETERNITY NO GOING BACK IN HELL!

SHALLOM

notice the word, Evalasting destruction, no hope of coming back.
enough distraction sir, pls , what goes to hell, the body soul or spirit?
brocab said it's only the spirit, do you agree with him?

Jessicha:
Are u not proving that scripture right that u indeed can be compared with a °Madman°

The bold doesn't affect me at all, cos the issue actually involve me . so am not enrage at something not mine. Actually INVOLVE ME



Yes , someone who call forgery and deceit humour actually is not different from a °Madman°



Who quote enrage for you . I quote that verse to let you know who u resemble when u call a fraud , deceit . humour meaning joke.

°Madman°

typical false jw non comprehension and confusion

yes you are showing that you are mad

dolphinheart:
there was nothing to reply to
1. you could not post the full text of my post
2. you could not comment on "your god is two persons in one"
3. you could not show where you responded to my explanation on the scriptures you posted
4. on John 1:1, you could not respond to my post constructively when I talked about that verse, so why should I repeat myself!.
5. you could not do without modifying my words and giving it your own false explanations.

ha ha you are deluded you have repeated those same lies many times, and now yet again

I did reply to those, more than once
but lying is all you can do

however you won't and cannot answer this:

lie lie dolphinheart


The Opening Post was about John 1:1 and the Word being God

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

You lie lie dolphinheart said concerning my God and the God of all Christians,
that is, concerning John 1:1 and the Word being God:

"your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

dolphinheart:
"it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."



dolphinheart, you heap way big lie lie who avoids this issue and repeats the same many lies over and over again

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Unless you can show me in scripture where the flesh ends up in Hades? It must be hard for you to consider a mans flesh returns back to dust, while his spirit go's somewhere.
Jesus said to the thief today you will be with Me is Paradise-does this mean he will be in paradise alive in his flesh-or did the man die after his legs were broken up on the cross? So if he died, then how can he be in paradise with Jesus, when of course you believe His Spirit doesn't live on.
Jesus said when He calls, the dead shall raise first, and those who are still alive will meet them in the clouds, meaning the Spirit of God is still living in those who are alive, when we meet?
Question why did Jesus say to the man, "today you will be with Me in paradise", if the Man's body just returned to the grave {Dust} and His Spirit returned to God?
Dolphinheart instead of trying to justify this with your own mind-try and explain your actions with bible scriptures this time....

dolphinheart:
1. It seems you do not understand the conjunction"neither"
2. let's look at the verses again :
King James Version
Ec 9:5For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neitherhave they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

solite3, look at the blue coloured part again and tell if it's true or not that the living know that they will die. If you believe this to be true, why don't you believe the part after the comma that says "but the dead know not anything"!
other translators translated that part as "but the dead do not know anything" or " the dead know nothing"
the verse did not say the dead do not know nothing about someplace or somewhere or something, it simply tells you that the dead know nothing!, so wherever you might conjure the dead to be, it simply knows nothing.
to show you how your false teachings contradict themselves, you said " they also have no knowledge of things done under the sun".this is contrary to your claims about the rich man and his awareness of his brothers who are still alive. also is Abraham not dead, has he been resurrected when you claim lazarus went to meet him!, how come a dead person knows about the rich man brothers. you yourself can see how anytime you try to explain the scriptures under your false teachings, it keeps on contradicting itself.
now let's go to the green part, the word neither:
neither /ˈnʌɪðə,ˈniː-/
determiner pronoun
not the one nor the other of two people or things; not either.
adverb
1. used before the first of two (or occasionally more) alternatives (the others being introduced by ‘nor’) to indicate that they are each untrue or each does not happen.
2. used to introduce a further negative statement.
can you see the definitions of neither there, can you see the underlined words?
The verse is talking about two things , two negative things, two alternatives, don't use the second one to determine what the first is saying!

King James Version
Ec 9:6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.

this part exposes your false teachings further, first let me ask you, this love , hate and envy, is it talking about those of the living or those of the dead?
We all know that love, hatred and envy are parts of human emotion, and the scriptures says that this emotion do not exist any longer. Some translators use "long gone", "vanished" ,"perished", "dissapeared".
In simple terms, the verse is telling us the dead have no emotion!


does the verse indicate the psalmist will praise God after death, to show that it's only the sinners that will praise God after death? no
Ps 115:17 The deaddo not praise Jah; Nor do any who go down into the silence of death.

Ps 6:5 For in death there is no mention of you; In the Grave, who will praise you?

Ps 146:4His spirit goes out, he returns to the ground; On that very day his thoughts perish.

Ps 30:9What profit is there in my death, in my going down to the pit? Will the dust praise you? Will it tell of your faithfulness?

Isa 38:18For the Grave cannot glorify you, Death cannot praise you. Those who go down into the pit cannot hope for your faithfulness.

Ec 9:10Whatever your hand finds to do, do with all your might, [color=red]for there is no work nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in the Grave, WHERE YOU ARE GOING.




notice the word, Evalasting destruction, no hope of coming back.
enough distraction sir, pls , what goes to hell, the body soul or spirit?
brocab said it's only the spirit, do you agree with him?

The Jehovah's Witnesses sect is built on lies,
as can clearly be seen in dolphinheart's posts here at these forums, just to mention one jw poster.

Read this atricle, click here

Instead of trying to work out how we explain the word of God to you, without your mocking, why don't you try and read the word of God yourselves?

dolphinheart:
I have not seen where dolphinsheart posted one single letter on this thread.
We were talking about that resurrection before, you made a post where you added large parts of my words to make it look as if you where the one who said it, I've asked you to modify it so I can respond, but you refused to! no problem, na your way!


you yourself can't even explain what trinity is , different idealogies, different teachings about trinity, which one do you believe?
This could be discussed soon, but for now, I'm still trying to get all of you to tell us what goes to he'll. is it the spirit, body or soul, or is it 2 of these three , or is it the three.
solite3 has said body and soul, brocab said only spirit. WHO ARE WE TO BELIEVE!


stop lying!


pls what is hell?, I asked this customer you might have a different understanding of the word from mine!



pls point to one verse that has been diluted by my society, though I hope you can do this after telling us about what goes to hell, don't use it to change the present topic!


what kind of body do they possess?

leofab:
"If everybody are Jehovah witness then the police will be out of work". police head Spain !!!



"When witness host a party in your compound; they compound is neater after the party"" ... Head Health worker in Germany



"If truly Jesus existed; He will be very proud of witnesses just like wizkid Mom""..... leofab

Hello Leofab.

I'm Sola from valley view cong. Care to chat up?

johnw74:
typical false jw non comprehension and confusion

yes you are showing that you are mad

Jessicha don finish this guy.

@ solite3 , I read your post where you claim those in hell have a body , tell us which kind of body they possess ?

This is hard to believe? This really amazes me JW's don't even believe in Hell, and the first thing you criminals do is jump on someone who does, It's hard to believe Solite3 will talk about you JW's having a body in hell.
This troubles me, you JW's don't even believe the truth about Hell, and to start an argument and without understanding what any of us write, you would rather twist his story, trying to make some kind of mockery out of the Word of God.
The laugh falls back on you dumb dumb's. You should be worried none of you will ever see the kingdom of heaven, let alone see the kingdom of God.
Now this is funny the JW's believe Jesus flew down to earth and became a Child in the flesh, and lived amongst men, once a spirit, Michael became a man made of flesh and blood, and returned to God as His Son? And God said which of the angels did I ever say you are My Son, and which of the angels did God ever say you sit here while I make your enemies your footstool. None....
How can anyone believe this story-now this is funny.

CAPTIVATOR:
@ solite3 , I read your post where you claim those in hell have a body , tell us which kind of body they possess ?

johnw74:
ha ha you are deluded you have repeated those same lies many times, and now yet again

I did reply to those, more than once
but lying is all you can do

however you won't and cannot answer this:

lie lie dolphinheart


The Opening Post was about John 1:1 and the Word being God

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

You lie lie dolphinheart said concerning my God and the God of all Christians,
that is, concerning John 1:1 and the Word being God:

"your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

dolphinheart:
"it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."



dolphinheart, you heap way big lie lie who avoids this issue and repeats the same many lies over and over again

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

presently you are on auto response
there was nothing to reply to
1. you could not post the full text of my post
2. you could not comment on "your god is two persons in one"
3. you could not show where you responded to my explanation on the scriptures you posted
4. on John 1:1, you could not respond to my post constructively when I talked about that verse, so why should I repeat myself!.
5. you could not do without modifying my words and giving it your own false explanations.

brocab:
Unless you can show me in scripture where the flesh ends up in Hades? It must be hard for you to consider a mans flesh returns back to dust, while his spirit go's no-where.
Jesus said to the thief today you will be with Me is Paradise-does that mean he will be in paradise alive-or did the man die after his legs were broken up on the cross?
Why did Jesus say to the man today you will be in paradise with Me, if the Man's body just returned to the grave?
Dolphinheart instead of trying to justify this with your own mind-you must explain your bible view on this chapter.

the post was not for you , it was for solite3, but if you felt you are solite3, why could you not respond to the scriptures posted their.
you are a very dubious fellow, always trying to find ways to run away from posts directed to you by commenting on post directed to someone else and at the same time not responding to issues. GO BACK TO MY POST DIRECTED TO YOU AND RESPOND TO THE ISSUES THEIR.
IVE POSTED THEAST FULL TEXT OF YOUR POST, PLS EXPLAIN!

On many occasions, none of the scriptures are for you either, but you don't seemed to mined sticking your nose in where it doesn't belong, and it doesn't stop you, from answering other peoples topic's.
So what's your problem Plus I am doing what you do best, helping my bro out, while Solite3 is busy.
I will let you know on a little secret-it doesn't matter where you are-blood always stick together..
And if you look hard enough you may find I have answered something you have written up above.

dolphinheart:
the post was not for you , it was for solite3, but if you felt you are solite3, why could you not respond to the scriptures posted their.
you are a very dubious fellow, always trying to find ways to run away from posts directed to you by commenting on post directed to someone else and at the same time not responding to issues. GO BACK TO MY POST DIRECTED TO YOU AND RESPOND TO THE ISSUES THEIR.
IVE POSTED THEAST FULL TEXT OF YOUR POST, PLS EXPLAIN!

brocab:
This is hard to believe? This really amazes me JW's don't even believe in Hell, and the first thing you criminals do is jump on someone who does, It's hard to believe Solite3 will talk about you JW's having a body in hell.
This troubles me, you JW's don't even believe the truth about Hell, and to start an argument and without understanding what any of us write, you would rather twist his story, trying to make some kind of mockery out of the Word of God.
The laugh falls back on you dumb dumb's. You should be worried none of you will ever see the kingdom of heaven, let alone see the kingdom of God.
Now this is funny the JW's believe Jesus flew down to earth and became a Child in the flesh, and lived amongst men, once a spirit, Michael became a man made of flesh and blood, and returned to God as His Son? And God said which of the angels did I ever say you are My Son, and which of the angels did God ever say you sit here while I make your enemies your footstool. None....
How can anyone believe this story-now this is funny.

story !


@ solite3 , to confirm you truly understand what you are saying ... since you said those in hell will have a body, tell us , which kind of body they possess ?