chuxyfranklin:





I understand your point when you said you will personally react and I'm sure your reaction would not have lead to death of anyone in general. But what I don't get is why an issue as trivial as "Dog naming" should flare up "Ethnic violence" in the first place.
You guys are trying to portray some of the Hausa's as insane people.
why should people in general become violent and start killing other people just because someone from another tribe gave his dog someone's father's name?? A dog??" it just doesn't make sense to me. I would understand if the issue was addressed because it would lead to personal rift between the two persons in question, but ethnic violence? ??Haba!!

The Igbo's in the east are being butchered in their own community by the fulani herdsmen, likewise other tribes, yet no reprisal attack or instigation of ethnic violence yet. it's like we are trying to pacify the northerners for being volatile and violent at any slightest provocation, which only shows that there is a serious orientation default from there , and we should be talking about addressing and tackling the situation and not pacifying them.

Thanks.

But your points here are unnecessary. How does it even concern butcher in Igbo land? I think you are deviating from the issue on ground sir. How does a Nigerien who felt insulted and reported to the police instead of taking laws into his hands relate to killings in the east?

I also think that you also need to know that there is a difference between Hausa and Fulani- A very huge difference.

And finally if you get my point as you earlier stated, then you should know that since people differ, dog naming could cause chaos in some places.

TCF1980:
Only if you can expunge Buruatai vs Shiite from ur post. Sir, have been to Zaria before now? What else do you know about the Shiite movement? Do you think that the obstruction caused by Shiite on that fateful day was an accident/coincidence and not a planned movement with intention to prove a point?

Goodluck Jonathan was president of Nigeria when his convoy was stoned by miscreants in the north, they were not arrested.
Imagine Buhari's vehicle being stoned in Bayelsa, their would be civil war if it happened. Your people are too violent my friend.

A goat was tagged Jonathan, a cow was labeled Jonathan, The then seating president convoy was stoned by protesters, there was nation wide strike during Jonathan administration in attempt to remove fuel subsidy all of these happen without any reprisal but today strike become "NO WORK NO PAY" right to liberty becomes "JAIL" freedom of speech becomes "FELONY" Please some body should tell us if this is what Democracy is all about.[color=#990000][/color]

Thank you Mr. Now you said something about Logic and reasoning. I really do not want to go into that else I would have love to coach you and also learn from you.

Please what is Blasphemy??
Also what is the case in hand??
At first they do not relate although they are leading towards the same end an attempt to incite violence.

Now there is something called an individual.. For example you, You only know yourself, you do not know about your siblings and can't bet your life on it in a dangerous or criminal circumstance with that being said.

You talk of blasphemy, when talking about blasphemy you would involve religion. Now as an individual our thinking and manner of approach differs. Blasphemy can come in any form.. Word of mouth,images and other various means.
I believe you know what blasphemy does to people in the north. The northerners don't even go to report at the police station they take laws into their hands and after that happens and the lifes are lost, they investigate and arrest are made. Take for example if we were together and I said something and you said I committed blasphemy I can deny. It's normal sense but the northerners won't give you a chance to deny.. So please when trying to give am example please do not make use of blasphemy as an example... Because it's not a good one to use. One more thing, if you had followed the story of the dog owner, you will notice he had a neighbour whose father's name was Buhari.. I am sure they had issues before now... And when you say blasphemy ... Are you God or are you Allah??.. People insult my religion as a Christian in front of me but they ain't talking to me.. They are talking to God not me.. Blasphemy against a religion, because the northerners who are not so so learned jump at someone and kill the person for saying I don't believe in Allah and call it blasphemy.. It's where their thoughts and thinking have gotten to. So please Mr... Don't jump in a thread and talk blasphemy. I stayed with a Muslim for 3-4 years he knows I only believe in my God as a Christian he has never for one day said I committed blasphemy because he is learned. There is a country that has a law that if you take a life, members of your houses life will be taken also.. Maybe all or 3 can't remember vividly. So please blasphemy is between man and his God. If you insult me as a Christian I will allow my God to fight it's cause.. And prove to you otherwise.. That's what I believe.. Not saying come o he has committed blasphemy.. That word only exists in the mouth of fools..

Bless you Mr

joseph1832:
Mr man, it is you who refuse to even think or comprehend what Mr. Obasi said.

If the man who named his dog Buhari, simply painted the name of his dog boldly on the body of the dog, took it around a place populated by Hausa's, and Mr Obasi said the man is guilty of trying to breach peace, then I see no reason why those who go about blasphemy the name of Islam shouldn't also be arrested, because they too are trying to breach peace!.

It's that simple. I wonder why many of the posters here are enemies to reason and logic. Gosh!!!!.

9jii:

And geniuses like you are busy licking your foot.
Useless.

I guess only your decayed mentality can comprehend what you wrote. Smh.

joseph1832:
I'm not a lawyer neither am I vast in knowledge of how our warped and segmented law works, but from what I read above, that means anybody who blaspheme and insult Islam or the Prophet Mohammed are also guilty. It means they've also committed a crime, which is intention of breaching public peace, cos we know how our Muslim brothers act when it has to do with their religion or their prophet.

If you ask me, I'll say Obasi Chinedu is allowing sentiment to cloud his reasoning. A man should be allowed to name his dog whatever name he choose. I see no reason why I should be angry or feel ridiculed if a man name his dog Joseph, rather I'll be flattered and complimented that the man chose to immortalise me by naming his dog after me, because whether he knows it or not, he inadvently just made me the guardian of his life.

u are wrong brother with d following reasons of mine
1. D name buhari is a respected name in the market coz of d influential alhaji buhari.

2. Buhari is also d name of the president

But d name joseph, don't ring a bell.......outside d gateman @ my estate that goes by d name

Anybody who sees nothing wrong in what dat guy has done shud kindly get a pig, inscribe his father's name on it n walk pass his presence n dat of his kinsmen. As u read, if ur head n mind so supports dis, den problem.
Stop bn a pawn for politicians to play with. Every man go answer him hatred questions by himself come judgment day before God oooo. Hatred no pay ooo. M also sometimes involve in dis too. God elp.

I have been hearing he named his dig Buhari and so so things.....but yet to see the picture of dog and Buhari's name boldly written on it.....if you really want to make case, tgey should have taken a picture of it when he was on parade with the dog.....till then lets srop saying rubbish to be noticed....i have seen people naming their dogs peoples name very closer to him.....my uncle a special adviser to a governor named his dog the name of the governor who visits him regularly...

So the only way that shouldnt have been a crime and perhaps cause breach of public peace was if the name Buhari was given to the dog by an hausa man? Since the man in this case in not an hausa man, then it has become a crime? And we are still one Nigeria? Kwontinnuuuuu oooo.

calyto:



But your points here are unnecessary. How does it even concern butcher in Igbo land? I think you are deviating from the issue on ground sir. How does a Nigerien who felt insulted and reported to the police instead of taking laws into his hands relate to killings in the east?

I also think that you also need to know that there is a difference between Hausa and Fulani- A very huge difference.

And finally if you get my point as you earlier stated, then you should know that since people differ, dog naming could cause chaos in some places.

Sir calm down, I was only trying to give instances of other weightier cases that should have lead to ethnic violence but didn't, that was what lead me to the cases of killings by the fulani herdsmen in some other parts of the country.
What I'm trying to depict is that, since other graver cases such as killings in one's own land by that particular tribe didn't trigger ethnic violence , I see no reason why we should be talking about ethnic violence as regards to something as trivial as dog naming. If it were to be a case of personal rancor between the two individuals in question, it would have been better understood.
This only goes to show how incompatible we are in this country, that something as flacid as dog naming can trigger ethnic violence.

Well done OP! This is the first time I'm seeing the full details of the case. The man is indeed guilty and has to deal with whatever sentencing the law allows... not what we think. He was not charged nor sentenced for naming his dog Buhari...as the media lead most to believe.That we've learned here but I guess many have been already programmed and changes cannot be made. In countries that claim to champion freedom of speech.... US...UK...Canada.... go in the movie theatre... a concert... and exercise your freedom of speech by shouting fire..... you would end up in court and face sentencing... just like this guy.... why? This case is pretty much the same.

roymary:


Common sense should also remind you no one got a write up from this same guy when Fulani slaughters his kinsmen on a regular in Enugu?


Considering the current state of the country no tribe should patronize the other until those old heads come together and lay good examples.

The land is in messy state. People are angry.

Does that negate the facts he's raised? Common sense is not exclusive to him. Use yours to write on what you've raised

joseph1832:
I'm not a lawyer neither am I vast in knowledge of how our warped and segmented law works, but from what I read above, that means anybody who blaspheme and insult Islam or the Prophet Mohammed are also guilty. It means they've also committed a crime, which is intention of breaching public peace, cos we know how our Muslim brothers act when it has to do with their religion or their prophet.

If you ask me, I'll say Obasi Chinedu is allowing sentiment to cloud his reasoning. A man should be allowed to name his dog whatever name he choose. I see no reason why I should be angry or feel ridiculed if a man name his dog Joseph, rather I'll be flattered and complimented that the man chose to immortalise me by naming his dog after me, because whether he knows it or not, he inadvently just made me the guardian of his life.

You can choose to name your dog, pet any name you choose! The point being raised here is whether there's need for you to rub it in the face of those who resent such christening actions! Freedom of religion doesn't mean that a Muslim comes into a church and starts shouting Allahu Akbar! or a Christian PURPOSELY going into a mosque to say JESUS Is Lord! There are better ways of pushing our beliefs in such a way that our neighbours will not see themselves as the target of our actions

pippimp:


I guess only your decayed mentality can comprehend what you wrote. Smh.

Keep blaming your failure on others then.

legally, I agree there is nothing wrong with what he did as far as our constitution is concerned. But morally and considering the volatility of the region where this man displayed this his stupid, is very very wrong if you don't view this sentimentally.

In fact, the complainant and the police should be applauded for averting another bloodshed that would have followed his actions if not reported soon enough.

I believe those wailing on his arrest will be the same people That will abuse the police and govt if the action had led to bloodshed and destruction of properties.

Dayanto:
There is not bad in naming a pet after someone...this have been proven by lawyers...shikinah

Truth be told.. There's nothing wrong in naming ur dog after ur father, but the motive behind ur action matters.. Let's not be selfish with our thinking, public opinion and feelings matters as well.

Mumu SUG Man, that means the police or bubu can wake up tomorrow and determine in their own view what constitute a breach of peace.

In another view, I think the religious leaders, govt and traditional rulers of the northern part of the country need to educate their young folks who takes to violence whenever their feelings, opinions, ideology and believe are threatened or abused.
No region must have that monopoly of Violence and the body language of the president is giving this guy the go ahead to perpetrate their act further.
So I urge serious sanctions and prosecution of any northerners who resort to violence on any of the aforementioned belief of the northerners from the other post.

My two cents.

You have given me hope in the Nigerian educational system. It is good to see a student put up a decent argument not that buffoon who calls himself a deputy speaker. The thing is only rascals engage in school politics most of the time.

Alexgeneration:
I'm so ashamed with the kind of students we have in our institutions of learning.Why can't our students make research on a particular issue before coming out to disgrace their institutions and lecturers?I'm a student of Abia State Polytechnic and I want to tell that OP that he just showed the world that his institution lacks good lecturers. The man that named his dog Buhari is not guilty of any offence,be it breach of public peace or whatever you call it.Consider the Supreme court's interpretation of section 249(1)(d) of the criminal code cap 29 vol 11 laws of Ogun state of Nigeria in the case between Nelson Ohanyere & 9 VS IGP(1957)SCNLR 213.Check section 39CFRN. Also check section 36(12) CFRN. Students don't argue like touts,we argue with FACTS. #Peace

9jii:

Keep blaming your failure on others then.

You know how when you are dealing with mentally handicapped people you often feel you are taking advantage of them. That is how i feel whenever i am arguing with most Nigerians. What the hell are you talking about now?

pippimp:


You know how when you are dealing with mentally handicapped people you often feel you are taking advantage of them. That is how i feel whenever i am arguing with most Nigerians. What the hell are you talking about now?

Don't turn all girly on me,and start talking bout your feelings
U are just happy coz I v your time.I'm making you bringing out the rubbish in u.and you are full of it

9jii:

Don't turn all girly on me,and start talking bout your feelings
U are just happy coz I v your time.I'm making you bringing out the rubbish in u.and you are full of it

Here we go again. How exactly is this any substance? The issue is your mentality and how you need to adjust it. How difficult is this to understand?

Alexgeneration:
I'm so ashamed with the kind of students we have in our institutions of learning.Why can't our students make research on a particular issue before coming out to disgrace their institutions and lecturers?I'm a student of Abia State Polytechnic and I want to tell that OP that he just showed the world that his institution lacks good lecturers. The man that named his dog Buhari is not guilty of any offence,be it breach of public peace or whatever you call it.Consider the Supreme court's interpretation of section 249(1)(d) of the criminal code cap 29 vol 11 laws of Ogun state of Nigeria in the case between Nelson Ohanyere & 9 VS IGP(1957)SCNLR 213.Check section 39CFRN. Also check section 36(12) CFRN. Students don't argue like touts,we argue with FACTS. #Peace

And written boldly on the dog is not capable of causing violent nawa for you oooo

Did this guy inscribe the name "president Buhari" on the dog? or did he named the dog "PMB" clearly? Did he name this dog of recent?
however, we need to know if Mr. President is the only one with that nomenclature? I know of a dog with the name jerry maybe Jerry Gana should sue the owner. what of dogs named Lucky that means Lucky Igbenedion should head to the court

Emmaoga:
*When I first heard the word PSYCHOLOGY in primary
school, I spelt it "Sychology". I didn't know there was a silent'
letter "P" before it as in (Psychology).*
*When Buhari promised Nigerians ₦45 per litre of fuel
during his campaign, I didn't also know there was a silent "1"
before it as in (₦145).*
We learn every day, don't we?

now dogs are been named buhari.....still learning.

When APC was chanting chain, they made it sound like change in order to deceive us. I think the problem here is intentional deceit by not being clear with words. So always ask questions while you are learning. It is important for better understanding.

eminikansoso:

And written boldly on the dog is not capable of causing violent nawa for you oooo

My first dog's name was John. Going by your logic, is Buhari the only person bearing that name? Let's even leave that for now. I can name my property whatever i like and it's no one's business.

pippimp:


My first dog's name was John. Going by your logic, is Buhari the only person bearing that name? Let's even leave that for now. I can name my property whatever i like and it's no one's business.

i mean written on his body?

Bro stop embarassing yourself with this unwarranted display of grammar! The above post is self-explanatory enough!

Alexgeneration:
I'm so ashamed with the kind of students we have in our institutions of learning.Why can't our students make research on a particular issue before coming out to disgrace their institutions and lecturers?I'm a student of Abia State Polytechnic and I want to tell that OP that he just showed the world that his institution lacks good lecturers. The man that named his dog Buhari is not guilty of any offence,be it breach of public peace or whatever you call it.Consider the Supreme court's interpretation of section 249(1)(d) of the criminal code cap 29 vol 11 laws of Ogun state of Nigeria in the case between Nelson Ohanyere & 9 VS IGP(1957)SCNLR 213.Check section 39CFRN. Also check section 36(12) CFRN. Students don't argue like touts,we argue with FACTS. #Peace

eminikansoso:

i mean written on his body?

The point still is you are saying someone can tell you what to do with your property.

Are we living with two type of law in this country. Unfortunately, you could not point out which part of our laws that he violated. The man who put a big write-up on their goat and called it Goodluck Jonathan, was he a super human? We should stop these nonsense if we don't have something tks write

joseph1832:
I'm not a lawyer neither am I vast in knowledge of how our warped and segmented law works, but from what I read above, that means anybody who blaspheme and insult Islam or the Prophet Mohammed are also guilty. It means they've also committed a crime, which is intention of breaching public peace, cos we know how our Muslim brothers act when it has to do with their religion or their prophet.

If you ask me, I'll say Obasi Chinedu is allowing sentiment to cloud his reasoning. A man should be allowed to name his dog whatever name he choose. I see no reason why I should be angry or feel ridiculed if a man name his dog Joseph, rather I'll be flattered and complimented that the man chose to immortalise me by naming his dog after me, because whether he knows it or not, he inadvently just made me the guardian of his life.

No problem. You can replicate what he did in a hausa comunity. This time we will ensure no police will intervene.
Good luck.
But should incase you decide not to take up the challenge then forever keep quiet.