johnydon22:
I do not believe anything is wrong with Black Africans - There only are need for us to evolve into thinking differently

Jack65:


How do we do that, and how long is it going to take us?

johnydon22:
I do not believe anything is wrong with Black Africans - There only are need for us to evolve into thinking differently

plaetton:
Same thing I ponder day in, day out.

In fact, I am obsessed with this question.

johnydon22:


A revolution as KingEtiennsky would suggest - we need an intellectual revolution, there are many factors hindering the intellectual curiosity, honesty and ultimately growth of the african mind.

GrizzlyBear:
Why are we so different in a negative way? This question seems a bit ambiguous and suggestive, so I'll try to make it more elaborate.
Please also bear in mind that I am not referring to aesthetic disparity.

I would have liked to touch on different aspects of this question, but since this is religion section, I'll streamline the question to just a religious context.

During the transatlantic slave trade, many years ago, the whites from britain invaded our lands and colonized us. They took our able bodied men and the prettiest of our women as slaves, and they took them back with them to their lands. But one other thing they did, was that they left us with their jewish religion. Of course since our people found them more attractive, coupled with the fact that they had tools and devices that were beyond our level of imagination, it was easier to adopt the belief in their own religion.

This same whites, who gave us their religion, also used that same religion to justify the slavery and wicked, heinous acts that they passed our brothers and sisters who they took to their lands through. We all know the story, so no need explaining further. If you don't, then read books about it, or just watch 12 years a slave.

Now, although these whites who gave us their religion, of course used it help us become more civilized, they also realized the most important usefulness of it - The control and colonization of the black mind.
This religion proliferated through major parts of our country and soon lots of people adopted it.

Fast forward more than hundred years later. The world has changed. Science has advanced. Discoveries have been made. The world is more organized. Majority of the whites who gave us the religion have realized it's obvious flaws. Historians have dug up facts that contradict the scriptures. Archaeologists and anthropologist have made findings that directly contradict biblical tales. Most of the western world have freed themselves from the mental shackles of this religion

But something unsettling is happening somewhere in sub saharan Africa. Instead of dissolving, this flawed religion is evolving into something even worse than the whites predicted. These people not only completely believe in this religion, they have made it an integral part of their lives.
These people, even believe that this white jewish God, loves them more than any other people, because they are adhering more strictly to his precepts than people of other races. They believe they are the true christians and every other one, even the jews themselves, and the whites who brought it to them, are going to hell.

But despite all this, these same black sub saharan africans, haven't noticed any profound progress over these years that they have been adherents of this religion, and it's sister religion, Islam. In fact, there economy has depreciated and is still depreciating. Their educational system is rubbish, practically, all essential structures of the countries that make up this sub saharan region are nothing to write home about.

Religion has so beclouded the minds of these people, that they would rather spend time praying than look for answers and practical solutions to their problems. They enslave the minds of their children from an early age through religious indoctrination, which prevents them from seeking and finding answers from themselves. They raise sheep who don't have the inner resources to think for themselves, and explore factual answers to questions, but would rather go to an ancient book to seek for those answers.

These same people spend more than half of their time praying and engaging in religious activities, rather than use that time to engage in more useful and resourceful activities that would enrich their lives and society.

Religion has destroyed the creativity and imagination of these people. They don't ponder, they don't think and they don't reflect. They don't read books, except of. course their bibles, qurans and religious books. Most of them have become exactly what the whites predicted that they would become. Mindless, delusional folks, who wallow joyfully, day in day out, in the pool of ignorance

Now Nairalanders, is there something inherently wrong with black Africans? Why are we more religious than other races? Why are we more superstitious than other races. It's an obvious fact that the superstitious mind is impermeable to mental and intellectual development. Why are we this way?

Why don't majority of black people love to explore other aspects of their world, apart from the one they exist in? Why are we so intellectually gullible? Why don't we like asking questions? Why don't we have interest in philosophy?
Of course you'd agree with me that it's someone who ponders and asks questions about conventional standards and notions, that would be more likely to deviate from those standards and notions, or form an entirely different standard, which explains why we are so knee deep in our religious believes, despite how fallible they are.

There are a lot of other questions I would have loved to ask, but it might be a bit of a stretch so I'll just stop here.

Is there anything inherently wrong with black Africans?

GrizzlyBear:
Why are we so different in a negative way? This question seems a bit ambiguous and suggestive, so I'll try to make it more elaborate.
Please also bear in mind that I am not referring to aesthetic disparity.

I would have liked to touch on different aspects of this question, but since this is religion section, I'll streamline the question to just a religious context.

During the transatlantic slave trade, many years ago, the whites from britain invaded our lands and colonized us. They took our able bodied men and the prettiest of our women as slaves, and they took them back with them to their lands. But one other thing they did, was that they left us with their jewish religion. Of course since our people found them more attractive, coupled with the fact that they had tools and devices that were beyond our level of imagination, it was easier to adopt the belief in their own religion.

This same whites, who gave us their religion, also used that same religion to justify the slavery and wicked, heinous acts that they passed our brothers and sisters who they took to their lands through. We all know the story, so no need explaining further. If you don't, then read books about it, or just watch 12 years a slave.

Now, although these whites who gave us their religion, of course used it help us become more civilized, they also realized the most important usefulness of it - The control and colonization of the black mind.
This religion proliferated through major parts of our country and soon lots of people adopted it.

Fast forward more than hundred years later. The world has changed. Science has advanced. Discoveries have been made. The world is more organized. Majority of the whites who gave us the religion have realized it's obvious flaws. Historians have dug up facts that contradict the scriptures. Archaeologists and anthropologist have made findings that directly contradict biblical tales. Most of the western world have freed themselves from the mental shackles of this religion

But something unsettling is happening somewhere in sub saharan Africa. Instead of dissolving, this flawed religion is evolving into something even worse than the whites predicted. These people not only completely believe in this religion, they have made it an integral part of their lives.
These people, even believe that this white jewish God, loves them more than any other people, because they are adhering more strictly to his precepts than people of other races. They believe they are the true christians and every other one, even the jews themselves, and the whites who brought it to them, are going to hell.

But despite all this, these same black sub saharan africans, haven't noticed any profound progress over these years that they have been adherents of this religion, and it's sister religion, Islam. In fact, there economy has depreciated and is still depreciating. Their educational system is rubbish, practically, all essential structures of the countries that make up this sub saharan region are nothing to write home about.

Religion has so beclouded the minds of these people, that they would rather spend time praying than look for answers and practical solutions to their problems. They enslave the minds of their children from an early age through religious indoctrination, which prevents them from seeking and finding answers from themselves. They raise sheep who don't have the inner resources to think for themselves, and explore factual answers to questions, but would rather go to an ancient book to seek for those answers.

These same people spend more than half of their time praying and engaging in religious activities, rather than use that time to engage in more useful and resourceful activities that would enrich their lives and society.

Religion has destroyed the creativity and imagination of these people. They don't ponder, they don't think and they don't reflect. They don't read books, except of. course their bibles, qurans and religious books. Most of them have become exactly what the whites predicted that they would become. Mindless, delusional folks, who wallow joyfully, day in day out, in the pool of ignorance

Now Nairalanders, is there something inherently wrong with black Africans? Why are we more religious than other races? Why are we more superstitious than other races. It's an obvious fact that the superstitious mind is impermeable to mental and intellectual development. Why are we this way?

Why don't majority of black people love to explore other aspects of their world, apart from the one they exist in? Why are we so intellectually gullible? Why don't we like asking questions? Why don't we have interest in philosophy?
Of course you'd agree with me that it's someone who ponders and asks questions about conventional standards and notions, that would be more likely to deviate from those standards and notions, or form an entirely different standard, which explains why we are so knee deep in our religious believes, despite how fallible they are.

There are a lot of other questions I would have loved to ask, but it might be a bit of a stretch so I'll just stop here.

Is there anything inherently wrong with black Africans?

KingEbukasBlog:

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The Op said religion stops you from reading other books and only wants you to read holy books . Have you heard anything more stupid today than that ?

felixomor:


Hmmmmmm
Na wa.

TrajansKong:


Me too.

In fact, I'm coming to a realisation that our people are afflicted with an extraordinary case of mental and moral COWARDICE.

Rather than look directly at reality and engage with it, we will take refuge in the warm gloom of the magic book the white man gave us. That has all the answers we could ever need. Plus all the love we will never give each other, or ourselves...

We cherish our terror of everything from the dark to dogs to water to mountains to woods to owls to our grandmothers to cats to strangers to free enquiry and every aspect of the natural world.

Curiosity beyond gossip is dead and we have turned our face away from the world forever, I fear.

plaetton:

Elegantly put.
But a very sad reminder.

Why don't Africans ever wonder why the Jews , the do called people of the people, never feed their kids with the type of poison we feed our children's minds ?

plaetton:

Elegantly put.
But a very sad reminder.

Why don't Africans ever wonder why the Jews , the do called people of the people, never feed their kids with the type of poison we feed our children's minds ?

sonofluc1fer:

It's funny. I met 2 Israelites some months back. They don't even take the Abraham and Samson stories as serious as we do back home. A man stuck in Owerri and darkness is praying to a God in Jerusalem that has no time for him.

If those fools Oyedepo and Adeboye die today, the world won't miss them. They offer nothing tangible apart from faith. And faith is indeed precious in hopeless and dark places like Nigeria.

Greatzeus:

Op you tried on your post,but you are wrong on the part where you said the slave masters gave us Jewish religion.
First the slave masters and the christian missionaries are two different people that can to Nigeria in two different times.
The slave masters or colonial masters came to Africa for its people and its wealth.
The christian missionaries came for the soul of Africa.They didnt come for our money or slave trade,rather they left their family and comfort to Africa to spread their faith,which they did by first introducing western education,building schools and teaching women certain home mgt skills.
Thirdly, slave masters were all white folks, but missionaries were both whites and freed blacks,who have gotten certain level of education overseas and decide to bring education to the people,guided by religious principles.
Slave masters become rich through their business,while missionaries died of sicknesses and diseases especially malaria.
The missionaries drew the people together to themselves by showing love and care, but slave masters never had rapport with locals except the high ranking chief who help them with their illicit trade,just for a pair of mirror.
After slave trade was abolished,the slave masters left,but the missionaries were coming to Africa to bring the light of the gospel to the people.
What I'm getting at is, the slave masters are not the christian missionaries.This is what I did in part in school(history of education in Nig/West Africa).
Yes the missionaries are white folks too, but you should know some people stood and fought against slave trade in America,white people not blacks,before it was abolished by the father of democracy himself, Abraham Lincoln.
Slave traders are cruel and ruthless, missionaries were good caring loving people who gave their lives to spread the knowledge of God.

KingEbukasBlog:


Seriously ? You sir said this ? Native Israel is totally religious .

KingEbukasBlog:


Seriously ? You sir said this ? Native Israel is totally religious .

plaetton:


I beg to completely disagree.
In fact, I have say, with all due respect to you, that is absolutely rubbish to separate the slave traders, the missionaries and the colonialists.

The onslaught against the continent was simply a three-pronged attack.
To weaken, enclave, exploit, and mentally yoke forever were the objectives and results,..all perpetuated by the same people, serving the same economic purposes for the empires of Europe.

Pls desist from insulting our already damaged psyches with that kind crap.

sonofluc1fer:

It's funny. I met 2 Israelites some months back. They don't even take the Abraham and Samson stories as serious as we do back home. A man stuck in Owerri and darkness is praying to a God in Jerusalem that has no time for him.

If those fools Oyedepo and Adeboye die today, the world won't miss them. They offer nothing tangible apart from faith. And faith is indeed precious in hopeless and dark places like Nigeria.

hahn:


In 2010 a report released by the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics showed that 8% of Israel's Jewish population defines itself as ultra-Orthodox, 12% as Orthodox, 13% as traditional-religious, 25% as traditional, and 42% as secular, on a descending scale of religiosity.

Religion in Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Israel

sonofluc1fer:

Indeed. Until the African mind is restored, we will continue to live in darkness and misery.

I was going through the comments on the SpaceX thread yesterday, and my heart was broken. A satellite for free internet for Africans cos we are unable to build one ourselves. How hopeless can things get. Tomorrow, these same retards will castigate the very science that has created that same technology.

Let's keep building churches and temples of worship. Our children will be very grateful.