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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by inzaghi1(m): 12:32am On Sep 12, 2016
This is not scriptural.
Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by stuffs4me(m): 12:32am On Sep 12, 2016
The Sallah festival exist in the Bible

Genesis 22
22 Some time later God tested Abraham. He said to him, “Abraham!”

“Here I am,” he replied.

2 Then God said, “Take your son, your only son, whom you love—Isaac—and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on a mountain I will show you.”

3 Early the next morning Abraham got up and loaded his donkey. He took with him two of his servants and his son Isaac. When he had cut enough wood for the burnt offering, he set out for the place God had told him about. 4 On the third day Abraham looked up and saw the place in the distance. 5 He said to his servants, “Stay here with the donkey while I and the boy go over there. We will worship and then we will come back to you.”

6 Abraham took the wood for the burnt offering and placed it on his son Isaac, and he himself carried the fire and the knife. As the two of them went on together, 7 Isaac spoke up and said to his father Abraham, “Father?”

“Yes, my son?” Abraham replied.

“The fire and wood are here,” Isaac said, “but where is the lamb for the burnt offering?”

8 Abraham answered, “God himself will provide the lamb for the burnt offering, my son.” And the two of them went on together.

9 When they reached the place God had told him about, Abraham built an altar there and arranged the wood on it. He bound his son Isaac and laid him on the altar, on top of the wood. 10 Then he reached out his hand and took the knife to slay his son. 11 But the angel of the Lord called out to him from heaven, “Abraham! Abraham!”

“Here I am,” he replied.

12 “Do not lay a hand on the boy,” he said. “Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son.”

13 Abraham looked up and there in a thicket he saw a ram[a] caught by its horns. He went over and took the ram and sacrificed it as a burnt offering instead of his son.

Genesis 22:2-13


Christians will not eat Sallah meat but will celebrate Christmas that has no link with their religion.

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by ogele: 12:33am On Sep 12, 2016
I don't believed in all these imported religion. I have reverted to african religion. Am a traditionist. Our motor is " cause no harm to anyone n never be an enemy of progress" as a traditionist, stand by d truth n be good to people and d ground will fight ur battle if anyone dares uuuuu.
Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by lawbabs: 12:35am On Sep 12, 2016
Amakansi4:

please stop saying wat u dont knw or not sure abt before u blaspheme.

It's obvious you only read your Bible once a year...
Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by Gaddafithe2nd(m): 12:47am On Sep 12, 2016
[quote author=jammy1993 post=49281361][/quote] Go use that cane on yourself.
Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by elhafeez(m): 1:07am On Sep 12, 2016
Am so sad to see hateful comments from Nigerians on this issue. where is the love. I remember those days where religious differences wasn't an issue. we celebrated and eat together. my best friends where Christians and I enjoyed my Christmas food from my friends and neighbors. my Christian friends can wait for my sallah meat today. we'lol eat together as we have always done since forever.
Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by ChiefCommander(m): 1:44am On Sep 12, 2016
Godsate:
It is wrong.

The question you must ask youself are the following:

1. Are they killing the Ram as sacrifice to God the father of our Lord Jesus Christ?

2. Did they mention the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy spirit when killing the ram?

3. The prayer during and after the killing of the ram is it in the name of Jesus Christ ?

If all these answers are no then the meat is not for the children of God.

Every true born again children of God with holy spirit in him knows that it's wrong to eat the meat.

Jesus is Lord.
Pls, permit me to ask you a question, in the light of your submission. As a Christian, would you agree to take a ride in a Muslim fellow's car, or live in a house owned by a Muslim? Bearing in mind, that at one point or the other, they would have pledged allegiance, prayed to, or given thanks to or in a manner that contradicts your own belief system?



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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by ChiefCommander(m): 1:48am On Sep 12, 2016
Godsate:
It is wrong.

The question you must ask youself are the following:

1. Are they killing the Ram as sacrifice to God the father of our Lord Jesus Christ?

2. Did they mention the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy spirit when killing the ram?

3. The prayer during and after the killing of the ram is it in the name of Jesus Christ ?

If all these answers are no then the meat is not for the children of God.

Every true born again children of God with holy spirit in him knows that it's wrong to eat the meat.

Jesus is Lord.





Pls, permit me to ask you a question, in the light of your submission. As a Christian, would you agree to take a ride in a Muslim fellow's car, or live in a house owned by a Muslim? Bearing in mind, that at one point or the other, they would have pledged allegiance, prayed to, or given thanks to or in a manner that contradicts your own belief system?

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by najib632(m): 1:49am On Sep 12, 2016
4everGod:


OP as a believer there is nothing wrong with eating it! The bible says that we can eat even those things offered to idols but we should give thanks to almighty God for it. However this is for a grounded believer who lives by faith and not fear.

A young believer with doubts shouldnt do so and also a mature believer should not eat it in the presence of an immature believer who still believes that its not right to eat it.....this is for the sake of his faith.

Every food or animal comes from God so be they from Native doctors, juju worshippers, muslims etc feel free to eat if you are spiritually matured to do so. Afterall how would they accept you or your message when you reject their hospitality?

God bless you.
Subuhanallah Aren't Jews and Christians supposed to join us in celebration this is because of the favour that God bestowed on his Noble friend Abraham A.S. so why all this...
Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by hollypagan: 1:51am On Sep 12, 2016
Don't eat with devil

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by Agbajen: 1:53am On Sep 12, 2016
Don't conclude on another person religion. Ask and make enquiry of what u don't know about rather than saying rubbish.
Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by Ayatullah(m): 1:55am On Sep 12, 2016
spice123:
@Op It is not only wrong but it's a bad luck to eat it. They actually cast their lots (bad luck and past sins) on the ram before killing it and so if you partake in it,........

You are 100% incorrect! Muslims don't cast "bad luck and past sins" on the ram.

Muslims are only following the tradition of Prophet Abraham, the "father of faith". A respected figure in Islam.

When Muslims bring their ram to be slaughtered they laid it down, bring out their knife and in their mind recite silently: "In the name of God. God is the Greatest! God Almighty from thee it comes and to thee it returns".

You need to help yourself by making use of the unlimited educational resources abounding on the Internet instead of spreading wicked and false messages.

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by ChiefCommander(m): 1:57am On Sep 12, 2016
flamingREED:



Keep the blessing to yourselves.

You don't fear God.

Your kind and Joel Osteen will soon be rejected by those who do know their.

And please, don't quote my post again.

Like it or leave it.

I detest heady, hypocritical, gluttonous and unsanctified Christians who mingle with sinners to the detriment of their souls.

Don't tag me again or the curse of God will follow you.
Chief, Sir, it shouldn't be this hard, or harsh! We're of the same faith, why speak like this? Even if a member of the faith is errant, would such harsh words/curses encourage their correction/conversion? We can all learn from each other. No one has attained this full stature o, you get what I mean?
Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by topsonjto(m): 1:59am On Sep 12, 2016
FriendChoice:










@Ranchhoddas your reply shows you don't understand what he says, and you're busy calling it quite right. Its totally wrong. He says we cast our sins before slaughtering it. Which is wrong. We are not idol worshippers rather we call God name, we submit the Animals to him and slaughter it.

Bismillaahi wallaahu ‘Akbar [Allaahumma minka wa laka] Allaahumma taqabbal minnee.

In the Name of Allah, Allah is the Greatest! [Oh Allah, from You and to You.] Oh Allah, accept it from me.

He also alleged that we cast our sins on the ram we share and hide a separate one to eat. Any Ram, in fact any animal you did not kill with Allah's name, you cannot eat it. God doesn't need your meat, HE doesn't need the blood of the Animals. What he need is the faith in your mind that you believe this Ram is God creature and God made me superior to kill it, he subjected the ram to me. If he wishes the Ram will be the one to kill me. Then Allah I submit Your creature (Ram) to you.


Their meat will not reach Allah , nor will their blood, but what reaches Him is piety from you. Thus have We subjected them to you that you may glorify Allah for that [to] which He has guided you; and give good tidings to the doers of good [Quran 22: 37]

My point is there is nothing like separate hidden ram that Allah's name has not been mentioned.

Mode Of Division
It's advisable when you slaughter 1 ram, you divided in to 3. One portion for your neighborhood regardless of who they are etc. The second portion to all the needy, the third portion for yourself. This is only the teaching of the Sunnah not command.

If you eat all the ram without giving it out, your sacrifice is valid

If you give some and keep some, it is still valid

If you dash it all outside, without you eating, it's still valid.


Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith 7.476 Narrated by Salama bin Al Aqua. The Prophet (saws) said: (Of the Sacrifice) eat of it, and feed of it to others, and store of it.




JazakAllah khair

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by topsonjto(m): 2:01am On Sep 12, 2016
FriendChoice:


Allow him. don't reply him. He has seen everything. Nothing like hidden meat or Ram and I explain it clearly. Just leave the companion of fool.



Subhanallah......u started well pls dnt be frustrated to end woefully.....As-Sabr

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by topsonjto(m): 2:05am On Sep 12, 2016
balash:


You are a pathetic liar, what do you people gain in been so stupid atimes? Ram that the least is 50k I will not buy 50k ram share and anoda 50k ram to eat alone, you see say you dey stupid abi?

Na people like you people in your neighbourhood don't even bother giving you share of meat at all whilst your pain. Silly buffon

pls,lets assess d situation well....dnt be moved to started raising unnecessary abuses....As-Sabr
Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by najib632(m): 2:12am On Sep 12, 2016
spice123:
They don't eat it dear. They prepare it for the general public and reserve a separate ram for themselves. I have seen that myself several times.
Fear God for one day you shall return to him.
Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by clemzo101(m): 2:54am On Sep 12, 2016
The bible is very clear on this......it is lawful to eat it, not a sin

Mark 7vs18-23
Romans 14vs1-23
1 Timothy 4vs1-5

Just to me too a few, just eat it with thanksgiving unto the Lord.
Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by talk2bash42: 3:03am On Sep 12, 2016
spice123:
They don't eat it dear. They prepare it for the general public and reserve a separate ram for themselves. I have seen that myself several times.
delusional
Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by tee4naija(m): 3:07am On Sep 12, 2016
spice123:
They don't eat it dear. They prepare it for the general public and reserve a separate ram for themselves. I have seen that myself several times.
With this kind of thinking, Nigeria is surely going nowhere. I can't believe this is coming from a learned person.

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by kaffyfolly: 3:41am On Sep 12, 2016
dis depend on individual perspective,if u say DT we should not eat it all because is not biblical den what happen to d beef u buy at market? v u forgotten DT majority of pple DT kill and sale beef in d market are Muslim,and mind u dey call d same word on the ram and the cow.
Muslim pple also believe DT dey are using the ram killing to erase any death DT may want to occur on their children,pls read ur bible where Abraham took his son along with him in other to kill him and God replace him with ram .so it is not bad for eating
Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by Nobody: 3:44am On Sep 12, 2016
Tpave:
Just asking cos somebody asked me this question this morning and I decided to bring it to the forum.

Great thread....Lovely read. Don't mind the criticism. Bringing this up has enlightened a lot of people including me. I hope you have your answers sha. When I was much younger I felt this dilemma terribly


flamingREED
You have just demonstrated immaturity with your God curse comment. That alone is a strong indication that you are wrong on yoir other opinions.


spice123
You are very correct. With the level of faith avalaible to you, you shouldn't eat it

4everGod
Thank God for your patience in explaining. You gave a biblically matured answer. Agree with you 100% The underlying truth remains... anything not done by faith is sin. As long as you are secure in your faith in eating or nit eating, you are in the right path. In addition, I think if you do not eat the meat because you are afraid of being harmed, (out of fear) when you are spiritually matured enough to know better, then it is a sin to you. Keep up the good work and do comment more often on NL on doctrinal issues as it helps teach growing christians seeing that this site has a google seo rankings so searches pull more of these threads since the site is indexed fast. I personally signed up because of that

The faith of the seller or buyer in any item or business transact has no impact on your eternal status. That's why Jesus gave the give to ceaser what is ceasers, give unto the Lord what is the Lords comment. Many of these doctrinal contentions are not as necessary as we make them seem. The very core of our faith as christians lies in the fact that God is able to keep everything committed to his hands and preserve us blameless.
Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by Rabiumohd: 3:48am On Sep 12, 2016
Who is that animal that spells Muslim that way?
Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by mr11x0(m): 3:57am On Sep 12, 2016
spice123:
They don't eat it dear. They prepare it for the general public and reserve a separate ram for themselves. I have seen that myself several times.

You are such a fool. Say not what you don't know. My people perish cos they lack wisdom. You my friend lack wisdom and understanding
Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by gloryman91: 4:04am On Sep 12, 2016
Not compulsory because Muslims are not supposed to eat thiers to during thiers festivals too.
Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by Nobody: 4:36am On Sep 12, 2016
4everGod:


OP as a believer there is nothing wrong with eating it! The bible says that we can eat even those things offered to idols but we should give thanks to almighty God for it. However this is for a grounded believer who lives by faith and not fear.

A young believer with doubts shouldnt do so and also a mature believer should not eat it in the presence of an immature believer who still believes that its not right to eat it.....this is for the sake of his faith.

Every food or animal comes from God so be they from Native doctors, juju worshippers, muslims etc feel free to eat if you are spiritually matured to do so. Afterall how would they accept you or your message when you reject their hospitality?

God bless you.
Perfect
Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by Royals1st: 4:54am On Sep 12, 2016
4everGod:


OP as a believer there is nothing wrong with eating it! The bible says that we can eat even those things offered to idols but we should give thanks to almighty God for it. However this is for a grounded believer who lives by faith and not fear.

A young believer with doubts shouldnt do so and also a mature believer should not eat it in the presence of an immature believer who still believes that its not right to eat it.....this is for the sake of his faith.

Every food or animal comes from God so be they from Native doctors, juju worshippers, muslims etc feel free to eat if you are spiritually matured to do so. Afterall how would they accept you or your message when you reject their hospitality?

God bless you.

U've said it all GOD bless u my brother
Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by flamingREED(m): 5:13am On Sep 12, 2016
Suprnov3r:





flamingREED
You have just demonstrated immaturity with your God curse comment. That alone is a strong indication that you are wrong on yoir other opinions.


[/b].

A thousand of you can decide to be yoked with the devil,
Saints don't really care.

And the curse is real for every deceitful believer.
And for you also,
If not only you dine with Satan,
But also you publicise your willingness persuading others to join you.

I won't tolerate such self-styled and misleading evangelists.

Revelation 22
19 AND IF ANY MAN SHALL TAKE AWAY FROM THE WORDS OF THE BOOK OF THIS PROPHECY, GOD SHALL TAKE AWAY HIS PART OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE, AND OUT OF THE HOLY CITY, AND FROM THE THINGS WHICH ARE WRITTEN IN THIS BOOK.

2 Peter 3
15 AND ACCOUNT THAT THE LONGSUFFERING OF OUR LORD IS SALVATION; EVEN AS OUR BELOVED BROTHER PAUL ALSO ACCORDING TO THE WISDOM GIVEN UNTO HIM HATH WRITTEN UNTO YOU;
16 AS ALSO IN ALL HIS EPISTLES, SPEAKING IN THEM OF THESE THINGS; IN WHICH ARE SOME THINGS HARD TO BE UNDERSTOOD,
WHICH THEY THAT ARE UNLEARNED AND UNSTABLE WREST, AS THEY DO ALSO THE OTHER SCRIPTURES, UNTO THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION.

Please don't quote me again.
I won't reply a compromiser twice.

Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by EvangAsika(m): 5:18am On Sep 12, 2016
my dear Idiol has no food as d Moslems have no food too.But if such food will bring reproaches to the name of Christ and affect ur faith pls stay
away...don't call that cleaned by God uncleaned
Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by AdeniyiA(m): 5:19am On Sep 12, 2016
[b]1 Corinthians 8:1 Now as touching things offered unto idols, we know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth.
8:2 And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know.
8:3 But if any man love God, the same is known of him.
8:4 As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one.
8:5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
8:7 Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled.
8:8 But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse.
8:9 But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.
8:10 For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols;
8:11 And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died?
8:12 But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ.
8:13 Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.[/b]
Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by ollah2: 5:20am On Sep 12, 2016
ajisebioyo1:
Muslims claim they eat with Christians during Christmas, while Christians also claim it is good to eat with Muslim's during salah. But the fact I want us ( Christians) to understand is that the motive behind the killing of rams during salah is totally different from killing chickens or cows at Christmas. Christmas is just for celebration which is not even biblical, as a Christian, you can kill anything or even buy processed foods for Xmas celebration, also it is not enforced on Christians neither there is attached blessings to dinning with friends during Xmas. But in Islam killing of ram is compulsory. However killing of ram is believed to wipe away sins and to seek for Allah's mercy. Then why eating such meat. For me I can't eat salah's ram but I can eat with them in other festivals

You didn't read your bible well or perhaps you skipped genesis chapter. It's boldly written there regarding what happened between Abraham and his son Issac.


You have been scammed by your pastors

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Re: Is It Right For A Christian To Eat The Moslem Ram During This Celebration? by vicjinny(m): 5:32am On Sep 12, 2016
@ 1cor 8,we missed one good point which I will want us to look at b4 going further, it says if you want to eat and u know it can act as stumbling block to others u shld desist so the question we should ask ourself is dat ,how will others react when they see me eating it as a xtian. . .tanx

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