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JMAN05:
There seem to be many questions on this board regarding the bible, God, lifestyle, science etc, answers have also been offered. However, you might get a reasonable answer to your questions if you try and see how Jehovah's Witnesses proffer solution to those questions.

Of course, reading from our websites, can assist you with an authoritative answer from the field of JWs. (ie, www.jw.org; tv.jw.org; wol.jw.org). Jehovah's witnesses also have an application which can help someone read different versions of the bible like KJV, Bryington, ASV etc. You can also download our journals in ur own language inside this app and watch some videos. Go to play store and search for JWLibrary app.

The witnesses in ur vicinity can also assist in answering your questions. You can also send me an email for a quiet discussion devoid of distractions common in Nairaland.

But you can post ur questions here too, let's see how we can handle it, but please be civil and open minded. I won't respond to apostates or apostate sites or those I view to be unserious. I might end it if one is insincere.

I do not have answers to every question. Others like Biblespeaks, dolphinheart, truthislight can contribute also.

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Dear bro,
I won't stand here to begin to ask question but to advice and warn you to STOP quoting the WORD of GOD upside down.
Isaiah, Jeremiah and our saviour- Jesus clearly WARN humankind against the terror and torments of hell so they won't end up in there - But you said NO...its a LIE, you know more than Christ...Why deceiving innocent people with your heresies, fabulous and wrong teachings? Why do you NOT believe in the HOLY SPIRIT...the 3rd person of the TRINITY? Can any human live a victorious Christain life without the Help of Holy Spirit? .....PLEASE NOTE:...The blood of every soul you have misleaded and deceived about the TRUTH of Hell will be upon you...because it may have been too late for them, when they eventually find out that they have been deceived - Heb 9 v 27.

Whoever is asking JW questions concerning their faith is wasting his/her time. You will still get the same answers you have been anticipating.

Is it true they believe hell in on earth? Throw more light

oneolajire:
What a pity! The modern day JWs can't even read through archives and discover the faulty foundations laid by their leaders. They just swallow all errors passed to them line hook and sinker.



READ 16 TERRIBLE LIES OF JWS


JW is the only true religion/christian: JW claim to be the only true religion/christian, so other Christians are false Christians. However, JW is a lifeless organisation that teaches falsehood and cannot withstand cohorts of principalities and powers of the devil. The reason why they are preaching to you because they believe all what you hear in church are false and they have the monopoly of God's truth.


2. Those who go to church follow false doctrines: JW'S claim that churches are shrines as they are not recognised by God and that God only recognises only one organisation called JW organisation. That is why the six letter word CHURCH (Matt 16:18) is not written in the so fake bible (new world translation of the holy scriptures) of the JW'S but replaced with 'organisation'. Church is got from a Greek word 'ecclesia' which means, gathering of God's people, called out out ones, people of Christ (Act 8:3, 1 Cor 1:2, 1 Pet 2:9).

3. They are following the command of Christ to announce God's kingdom: JW will never preach to juju people, ritualist, ogbonis, babalawos because JWs doctrines is powerless. Ask them of the number of worship centres they have in Iran, Iraq, 
Afghanistan and other difficult places. Does it mean these neglected people don't need God's kingdom? The truth is that they only preach where christianity has been established. They confuse those who are on the way to heaven because they have little knowledge of God's word by promising them a kingdom on earth.

4. Man is not a Spirit Being. They claim that man is a composition of two things, clay and breath from God. 1 Thessalonian 5:23 makes us to know that man is made of Spirit, soul and body. Act 7:52, shows us that Stephen's spirit was to go to Jesus. Paul said 'I go to be with Jesus when I die', he didn't say he's going to the grave. We fellowship in the spirit realm (John 4:24), means (human) spirits communicates with God(spirit) or other spiritual beings. Heb 4:12, Rom 12:2, soul/mind in the intellectual (reasoning) part of a man. So man is a Spirit being who has a soul, the intellectual realm while we only live in the body.

When people die, they go somewhere, Philippian 1:21-24, Act 7:59, Luke 16:20-31, just because they are spirit beings who live in the body

5. Jesus is not worthy of worship: JWs always denigrate the person of Jesus, they will never sing our church songs nor pray with us because we worship Jesus. Heb 1:6 Jehovah says Jesus should be worshipped. Rev 5:8-14, Matt 2:11 also supported the worship of Jesus. JWs are only fighting a lost battle for being angry to worship Jesus. The JWs fake bible replaced 'worship' with 'pay obeisance' wherever people worship Jesus.


6. There is no hell/lake of fire. JW teaches that God cannot send people to hell as he has made the earth for mankind. They claim those who don't believe in Jesus Christ would not resurrect or would have an abrupt end.  Anyway, the Bible teaches eternity in heaven (for those who follow the teachings of Jesus and eternity in hell (Rev 21:15, 22: for those who do otherwise. If there were no lake of fire, the rich man wouldn't have tried to prevent his relatives from witnessing same torment (Luke 16:20-31)



7. Jesus is an angel, precisely Angel Michael. JWs claim the statements 'sons of God' (Gen 6:2) refers to angels. So Jesus is God's firstborn son and Michael is the Arch angel, therefore Jesus is angel Michael( 1 Thes 5:16). JWs are wrong. Angels are spirits, servants of those who inherit salvation (Heb 1:14). Heb chapter 1 & 2 were written to the Hebrews (and to us) to purposely educate them (us) that Jesus is not an angel.


8. Nobody is in heaven: John 3: 13, Jesus told Nicodemus that 'nobody has ascended to heaven'. 
This place is quoted out of context. Jesus was telling Nicodemus that He is the only one who has being in heaven and come down to earth, and nobody has gone up there and returned to earth to tell us heavenly things. JW's don't want to know where Elijah went. Ascention means lifting up of a bodyly being but believers go to heaven in spirit form (Act 7:52).

9. Other Christians worship three Gods (polyetheism)  as they worship only one God (monotheism). Bible truth goes thus:  EMMANUEL means JEHOVAH WITH US (Matt 1:23). Jesus is God in human flesh John 1:1&14, 1Tim 3:16. In Rev 1:6-8 Jesus is all that Jehovah is, the ALMIGHTY. In Isaiah 9:6, Jesus is the everlasting father. Philippians 2:6 tells us Jesus is a form of God-in human flesh.
God is a Spirit in John 4:24, in Rom 8: 9, Spirit of God and Spirit of Christ were interchanged, which also is the Holy Spirit.
You can see that we worship only one God (1 Cor 8:4) who relates with man in three forms. This is uniqueness of Christianity.

JWs made a terrible mistake in their NWT (fake bible) in Matt 3:3, Mark 1:3, Luke3:4, John 1;23. John prepared the way of "Jehovah" and Jesus was the "Jehovah" whom John prepared his way.


10. Man will live forever in this earth. Matthew 5:5 is their favourite verse. JW's claim that the garden of Eden lost by Adam would be restored on earth (eternal life).

JWs can be so ridiculous, they want to inherit Dangote's cement factories as well as his refinery under construction.
They want to enjoy the wealth of Bill Gate and Mark Zuckerberg.
The creator of heaven and earth says they will pass away, JWs are saying no to God's word. Matthew 24:35, Mark 13:31. They will be burnt by fire 2Pet 3:7and 12. They will give way for a new heaven and earth, not a panelbeated, renovated or recycled heaven and earth.

JWs claim they want to inherit the earth Matt5:5. People could be moralist, idol worshipper, agnoist, atheist and still be meek despite rejecting the gospel. If meekness is what it takes, Jesus didn't need to die, he would only have concentrated his teachings on meekness. Meanwhile, there is nothing to inherit in this earth

Matthew 5:5 is only saying that those who are meek will enjoy their stay on earth during their lifetime (befo


11. Participating in competitions e.g. sports, debate, etc are sinful 2 Cor 10:12. They misinterpreted the bible. Though their members have so much passion for competive sports, yet they are hypocrites when it comes sticking to this doctrines of theirs. 1,Cor 9:25. Even Paul told us that those who run run to win prizes as he would have condemned competition in this verse while he would have categorised competitive sports as sin in several places of the scriptures. When we excel in competitions, it brings glory to God as his children.


12. Accepting blood transfusion is sinful: Act 15:20 also misinterpreted. JW's can't prove with the bible any account of blood transfusion in the bible, so how does 'abstain from blood' means 'reject blood transfusion'? However, if we should follow the word 'abstain', then we should run away from blood of fish, goats and other animals as well as injured people and women giving birth. Unfortunately, they do not have any bible record of blood transfusion prior to the time of the first Apostles to justify that their claim.


13. Marking or celebrating days is unbiblical. JW's don't celebrate easter, christmas and new year. They refused to see what the bible says that those who keeps a day should keep it for the Lord Romans 14:6. Philippian 4:4. Unfortunately, the celebrate wedding anniversary, what an hypocricy?


14. Participating in secular governance and politics should be avoided. They hold on to 1 Cor 4:4 where bible says that the devil is the 'god of this world'. So they claim being part of the world government means being ruled by the devil. They claim to await God's kingdom on earth to be ruled by Jesus (theocracy). They neither say the national anthems, pledges nor salute flags because of these reason (they also refer to them as worship). Bible teaches that God appointed rulers over us Rom 13: 1-7, Titus 3:1 God would have told is if he doesn't want us not to be part the leaders. The truth is that the devil had been in operation before the nation of Israel, so David, Hezekiah, Daniel and other faithfuls wouldn't have been permitted by God if truely God doesn't want us to part of government.


15. Being in military is wrong. JW's claim they are not for fight but for peace, because God's kingdom is for peace. In Act 10, we see how a senior army officer (and his household) got born again and got baptised in the Holy Spirit. Peter would have compelled Cornilius to resign from the Italian regiment if being in the army was sinful. Moreover, Jesus healed the servant of another senior military officer (Matt 8:5-11) without Jesus saying anything negative about his participation in the army.


16. Jesus is a created being Col 1:15. JW held tight to this verse and misinterpreted it. Jesus was the creator who entered creation to save mankind. Anyone who will enter this world must take the form of creation before he can be born Col 1:16, Philippian 2:5-8.


WHO ARE THE JWs?

1. They are people who use human wisdom to interpret God's word. They lack spiritual understanding as the natural human wisdom cannot receive God's wisdom (1 Cor 2: 12-14, John 14:26)

2. They are people who lack revelation of GOD AND THE HOLY SPIRIT (Eph 1:17-18)

3 They are spiritually DEAF.  John 10:27, they don't hear God's audible voice speaking to them, so they want you to join them so you'll become spiritually deaf.

4 They are empty in the spiritual realm, so powerless a doctrine. No healing, miracle, vision, prophesy, all because they lack the Holy Spirit and that is why they cannot confront juju power and the likes.

5. They don't preach salvation from sin, repentance, sanctification and righteousness, as a prerequisite for God's kingdom. They only tell people to come and study and start preaching heresy.

6 They lack revelation of heaven: In Isaiah 6, Act 7: 55-56, Rev 4, God's people saw the revelations of heaven and God is still showing Christians what heaven looks like, but none of the JWs has ever seen heaven. Christians can see where we are going, jws cannot see their end.

7. They are followers of a man named Russell Charles Taze. He made lost of false predictions and teachings.

http://thewatchtowerfiles.com/did-charles-taze-https://carm.org/jehovahs-witnesses-and-their-many-false-prophecies-predict-1914-as-christs/

http://www.bible.ca/Jw-Prophecy.htm

Read more of him on various encyclopedia as well

JWs doctrine looks attractive to you if
1. You have a shallow knowledge of God's word
2. You live in sin (lying, worldliness, sexual immoralities e.t.c.)
3. You don't allow the Holy Spirit to teach you more of God.
4. You don't go for evangelism

While Christians evangelize unbelivers turning them to Christ, JW evangelizes Christians to turn them to Watch Tower.

Please support this Faith's claim that there is no Afterlife with not just Biblical references but concrete explanations! We've heard mixed reports from people who have died and returned, most reveal that there is an Afterlife and that dead humans won't just lie dead and unconscious until judgment!

JMAN05:
Wisdom was not created. God has always been wise. However, Prov 8 states that wisdom was created. Since God has always been wise, don't you think that that proverb 8:22 is talking about a spirit person? ("The Lord created and possessed me at the beginning of His way,
Before His works of old [were accomplished]" according to [i]Amplifier Bible[/I])

If you also consider the context of that scripture and the 1corinthians you quoted above, don't you see reason to believe that Jesus is the wisdom personified spoken of there who was created?

It is worthy of note that the word "created" does not appear in the Authorized version.

The Bible also says The person being talked about in Prov. 8:30 was GOD's delight daily.

You JWs say Prov. 8:30 was talking about Jesus Christ. If there had been a single day when Jesus was not in existence, how could He have been GOD's delight daily?

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firestar:
What is your question Anas09?

He asked you a question but u won't answer because, according to you "he was rude", so i apologize in his stead. So, now pls answer his question, it" ll enlighten us.

JMAN05:
Because Gods law forbid the taken of another's blood to sustain life as you already know. Yes, its worth is cos any life lost on account of following bible principle would be rewarded. Matt 16:25

 [b]For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it

http://www.therefinersfire.org/blood_transfusions.htm the above link provides correction to your misconception of the Bible, I hope you will read through.

everyone is not expected to live by biblical standards,despite reading it daily.Jehovahs witnesses try to live by Bible standards each day of their lives.someone told me dat we are very wicked because he saw a witness man driving towards him,and refused him a lift.i said am sorry.d next day he refused to yield to d apology of his best friend,when d latter begged him to lend him his clipper.well wat can I say.despite Studying d Bible ,we still have inborn tendency dat often fluctuate and surface negatively in reacting to pipo inspite of religion.anoda problem I see with people is dat,dey tend to follow popular trend instead of just reading and digesting d Bible.

Anas09:
God didnt create hellfire for man, it was for satan and his angels, here is what Jesus Himself says ...

Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Matthew:25:41

Any human who ends up in hell did that by choice, the choice of rejecting the Life of Christ which brings rebirth into the human spirit.
So, if you lie down at night xonvincing yourself that Hellfire is not real, you have been lied to.

The word of Christ Himself "Everlasting fire".
I dont know what your Bible translates that verse of the Bible, but that's what it is.

Get this Jesus Christ the Son of God, talked about hellfire more than anyone else in the entire Bible. The reason for which he came is to save man from hellfire. But Charles Taze Russell seeks to subvert that message.
Charles calls Jesus a liar and wicked by saying people will go to hell. That is what it means.

I read in some places that hell = grave. interpretations screwed up the real meaning. hell doesn't actually mean "real fire" afterall spirits don't feel pains so casting a spirit into fire does nothing, don't you think?

Logicbwoy:
You answered my questions in a typical Jehovah's witness way.

I wouldn't bother you too much, seeing that you are truly indoctrinated. You can't even see why I say that your church members are wicked. How can you look at someone dying and refuse him blood? Are you people the only christians that read the bible? Do you even know that your Jehovah's witness new translation bible is still a translation of a catholic bible?



90% of your culture is pagan. In fact, everyone in the world has pagan roots. To suggest that christmas is pagan is kind of hypocritical, considering that your Nigerian name, food, dressing comes from pagan origin.

You do realise that pagan relgions existed before Christianity?

Thumbs up bro.

do you guys see vision or go into trance?

okestev:
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Dear bro,
I won't stand here to begin to ask question but to advice and warn you to STOP quoting the WORD of GOD upside down.
Isaiah, Jeremiah and our saviour- Jesus clearly WARN humankind against the terror and torments of hell so they won't end up in there - But you said NO...its a LIE, you know more than Christ...Why deceiving innocent people with your heresies, fabulous and wrong teachings? Why do you NOT believe in the HOLY SPIRIT...the 3rd person of the TRINITY? Can any human live a victorious Christain life without the Help of Holy Spirit? .....PLEASE NOTE:...The blood of every soul you have misleaded and deceived about the TRUTH of Hell will be upon you...because it may have been too late for them, when they eventually find out that they have been deceived - Heb 9 v 27.

While I admire ur zest, it is pertinent to note that I can say the same to you, namely, that you are turning the Bible upside down and deceiving people. Isn't it reasonable to calming discuss the word of God and see what we can find there?

We believe in the holy spirit, and we believe in hell. Jesus was there before. Acts 2:31

crown08:
why don't u guys pray?

You are certainly not referring to the JWs

azimibraun:
Jehova witness I know are cousins to Deeper life people but I am not sure now, are they the same as Sabbath; those guys who worship on Saturday?

No, they are not.

miketayo:
LMAO!!! pls tell me you are kidding.. why even wear shirt, trousers or even native wears because that is also idolatry if National anthems are

I don't understand you. I wrote about a religious song not a wear.

dazzlingd:
did u grow up in a JW home?

Nope!

Guy you done enter oo.... in this present economic declination... were people dey vex.. you now brought your own issue... just one question
why you guys so stubborn....?

dejonathan:
I Love D Way Ure Giving Answers To The Questions..Thumbs Up Bro..Am Also A Jehovah Witness

Best Wishes Dear!

Anas09:
While Christians evangelize unbelivers turning them to Christ, JW evangelizes Christians to turn them to Watch Tower.

Hahahahahahahahaha, I dey laaaaaafffffff laaaaaafffff ooooo .

You call yours evangelism too! Second degree evangelism.



The guy is happy spreading falsehood

JMAN05:
You asked wether Jesus is God(I know you mean Almighty God). He isn't, but he can be called a god (whether capitalised in obedience to grammatical rules doesn't change anything). The word "God" (Elohim/Theo's) is titular and can be applied to either Jesus or faithful persons. Compare Psalm 8:5; 82:6

As such, Jesus is there called mighty God, not Almighty God.

He is an eternal father in that his sacrifice is going to offer humans eternal life in place of what our first parents lost.

the point is Jesus is God but in the context of his question , No.
let me explain..hope you know the devil is also a god? in the context of humans, God Made Jesus God to us (or ruler, King )
however, most people think because God as a title belongs only to the supreme ruler , Jehovah.
psalms 110: 1-5. vs 4: says God has vowed and he wont regret meaning Jehova wont regret or feel bad or changed his mind giving JESUS ruLership over man or humans
luke 22vs 29, 30 and john 15, 9,10 God made covenant with Jesus for a kingdom , so Jesus made covenant with His disciples for a kingdom.
the confusion of the churches is the fact that God (JEHOVAH)handed Jesus the kingdom and most of the titles of GOD JEHOVAH are also used for Jesus . it does not mean that the supreme Father no longer exist OR IS SAME PERSON AS JESUS . read 1 cor 15 :28.
Correctly, we can say JESUS is a GOD or DIVINE . It does not negate the existence of the supreme GOD JEHOVAH.

okestev:
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Dear bro,
I won't stand here to begin to ask question but to advice and warn you to STOP quoting the WORD of GOD upside down.
Isaiah, Jeremiah and our saviour- Jesus clearly WARN humankind against the terror and torments of hell so they won't end up in there - But you said NO...its a LIE, you know more than Christ...Why deceiving innocent people with your heresies, fabulous and wrong teachings? Why do you NOT believe in the HOLY SPIRIT...the 3rd person of the TRINITY? Can any human live a victorious Christain life without the Help of Holy Spirit? .....PLEA NOTE:...The blood of every soul you have misleaded and deceived about the TRUTH of Hell will be upon you...because it may have been too late for them, when they eventually find out that they have been deceived - Heb 9 v 27.

my friend don't tink u know it all ok,sometimes d Bible shouldn't be taken literally in all its quotation.let me ask u,jude verse 7 says dat d pipo of Sodom and Gomorrah suffered everlasting punishment by fire,were is Sodom and Gomorrah now,is it still existing.dont u tink it was talking about d gravity level of d punishment instead of d duration.one of d element being water hailstone or fire have been used by God before in bringing judgement to unrepentant wicked ones,probably one of dem will still b used again.but d question is ," were is d hell fire presently."

azimibraun:
And are against evil which is the enemy of good if I may add...hehehehe am getting along fine right?

I would wish to have a sincere discussion here, not a ridicule. Is that possible with you?

jeroton:
Jesus is not Agel please.Read Hebbrew 1:1-14

Can you tell me what you understand from the link I gave first?

paulGrundy:
https://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/THISGONBGUD.gif


"True, it is expecting great things to claim, as we do, that [size=14pt]within the coming twenty-six years all present governments will be overthrown and dissolved[/size]. In view of this strong Bible evidence concerning the Times of the Gentiles,....... [size=15pt]will be accomplished at the end of A. D. 1914[/size]." Studies In the Scriptures - The Time Is At Hand (1889) pp.99, 101

“A religion that teaches lies cannot be true.” Watchtower 1991 Dec 1 p.7

The Renown JW hater! You still owe us an explanation on what they did to you

Anas09:
Wait... You have a problem with hellfire but not with Jehovah destroying people in Amagedon?

Listen, Jesus talked about hellfire more than he talked about heaven in the gospels. If you choose to see his teachings as metaphors, thats you. If you reject his love and life, you wont have the rebirth which takes place in your spirit man, if your spirit is not alive when u die here, you can't proceed to where Christ is. You'd be left outside and that outside is what is called hellfire. If it sounds threatening to you here, wait until you die..

Na, i have issues with both cos i aint for any. if i didn't know what happened to me pre-existence, i care less what happens to me post-existence.

I have not seen someone answer questions about his religious beliefs in these manner,... so grounded in knowledge, so mature, very polite...thumbs up. I am impressed. you have answered most question to my satisfaction n with Bible verses. thanks so much

JMAN05:
I don't understand you. I wrote about a religious song not a wear.

pls how is the National anthem a religious song?

Anas09:
Wait... You have a problem with hellfire but not with Jehovah destroying people in Amagedon?

Listen, Jesus talked about hellfire more than he talked about heaven in the gospels. If you choose to see his teachings as metaphors, thats you. If you reject his love and life, you wont have the rebirth which takes place in your spirit man, if your spirit is not alive when u die here, you can't proceed to where Christ is. You'd be left outside and that outside is what is called hellfire. If it sounds threatening to you here, wait until you die..

Threatening to me? okay oga, what happened to those who died because Christianity and Jesus came around? what "hell fire" are they going to hell, heaven or where according to?

JMAN05:
Can you tell me what you understand from the link I gave first?

I want you to read this through and give your view http://www.therefinersfire.org/blood_transfusions.htm