solite3:
Jesus is not the same person as the father but they are one God Jehovah!

Peacefullove:


haha who doesnt know you are a liar just like your religion. See your holybook contradicting itself , if Jesus is true God , Jesus lied by calling his Father ONLY true God . keep exposing your religion for what it is .

DoctorAlien:


Baba that is not an evidence.

Please quote where I said that Jesus is not the true GOD.

Also quote where I admitted that I was lying.

DoctorAlien:


Jesus is One with His Father in character, will and in purpose. There is no difference in anyway between them. The fact that He came to earth was a mutual agreement between Him and His Father. He agreed to be separated from His Father, and to be humiliated and brought low.

Peacefullove:


you are asking , are they really gods ? Hahahaha bullshit !

God - ye are Gods

Solite3 - are they really gods ?

Arguing with the bible god. Hahahaha

Peacefullove:


are you telling me that the writers of the bible are stack illiterates ? . how can the Almighty God be subjected and be handing over his Kingdom? How can the Almighty God still call someone " My God " ?

Its either you are the illiterate here, or your bible writers

DoctorAlien:
JWs claim this verse is talking about GOD the Father: Rev. 1:8 "I am the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty."

They also (falsely) claim that this verse is talking about GOD the Father: Rev. 22:13 "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last." (See v.12).

Now, the Almighty is the Alpha and the Omega in Rev. 1:8. That same Alpha and Omega calls Himself the First and the Last in Rev. 22:13. It is now clear that the Almighty is the First and the Last.

Now, JWs admit that the "First and the Last" in Rev. 2:8 is Jesus Christ.

Does this not mean Jesus Christ is GOD? Can there be two "Firsts" and two "Lasts"?

If there can be, then that exposes another false JW doctrine: that Jesus was created.

How can GOD be the First and Jesus is the First too? Isn't this equality with GOD?

Note: Jesus doesn't say He is the First to be resurrected to immortal. HE IS THE FIRST!

dolphinheart:

the reason or area in not what we are discussing , if buhari is in the U.S, he will still be called the president!

your logic is false, you say jesus is not the father , so jesus is not the same being as the father, so we have 2 beings, yet both are called mighty God!. false teachings cannot stand scrutiny!

dolphinheart:

false teachings , prophecies shows jehovah, talking about his servant , jesus fulfilled those prophecies. jehovah was not talking about himself
jehovah when talking about himself uses I , me , and other words to signify hims elf as only one person, jehovah is not 2 persons talking as one I person!
The scriptures tells us that jehovah is the most high , jesus is sitting at the right hand of the most high, thus jesus is not the most high!

solite3:

you have been exposed!

Keep pouring out foolishness

A look at 1 John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God. From these scriptures DoctorAlien, Solite3, who do you think the JWs are knowing fully well in the course of this thread they've proved/provided he came in the flesh and he is God's Son?

Please have this in mind as well 1 John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

solite3:
you brought the issue of domain by bringing America and Nigeria into this issue.

If the Father and Jesus are not one God, how come both is called The mighty God?

solite3:
you have been exposed!

Keep pouring out foolishness

achorladey:
I repeat, my hope again that in the quest for unravelling the mystery and comprehension behind the Godhead we do not make Jesus christ a Liar. If he is a liar, then he is a sinner, meaning the ransom is of no use. We should all think deeply about this.

Peacefullove:


where exactly is the Father and Jesus called " one God " ?

solite3:
Christ is not a liar!
Let me show who is the liar,
The person who deny both the son and the Father!
For the bible clearly state that Jesus is the only begotten son of God

Jesus is the only begotten son of himself

Infact the same bible call Isaac the only begotten son of Abraham in Heb 11 vs 17 , how did Abraham beget Isaac. By sexual intercourse with His wife , can you tell me how Jesus was begotten ?

DoctorAlien:
barny95,

If Jesus Christ is the First to be resurrected to immortality, He is the last to do what?

DoctorAlien:
barny95,

If Jesus Christ is the First to be resurrected to immortality, He is the last to do what?

Peacefullove:


foolishness is when a person belive there is an ONLY true God , but still claim another person is also a true God . that is clear contradiction and a lie . and a disgrace to the word " ONLY"

barny95:
the first to be directly resurrected by Jehovah to immortality and the Last to be directly resurrected by Jehovah to immortality. All others will be done through Jesus. Answer my questions

DoctorAlien:
barny95,

Who is the "Alpha and Omega" in Rev. 22:13?

DoctorAlien:
barny95,

Who is the "Alpha and Omega" in Rev. 22:13?

truthislight:


Stop exposing your limited knowledge of the Bible.

The alpha and Omega is Yahweh.


The almighty is not of the "root of david" According to the below verses. Don't read half and start shouting.
The almighty is not the "morning star"


You know that place is talking about two persons, the first person is Yahweh, the father then Jesus christ. And they both sent their Angels:

see:

Revelation 22:6-13

"And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done. Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book. And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things. Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God. And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. " (Revelation 22:6-13).
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That ^ is talking about Yahweh that sends His angel.

Yahweh is the lord God of the Holy prophets.

Hence, after Yahweh sends his Angel, then Jesus sends his angel in subsequent vers 16 below in Revelation 22:16-17:


"I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely." (Revelation 22:16-17).
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The almighty is not of the root of David.

Yahweh is not a morning star.

Mornings Stars are sons of Yahweh.

Peace

solite3:


A man who only follows his instincts is like the beast of the field.
1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Your earthly and sensual!

Seek God accept Christ now stop blaspheming what you don't know
2 Peter 2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;


Jude 1:10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.

DoctorAlien:


So this is what Rev. 1:18 is talking about?

So Jehovah is the first to do what and the Last to do what?

barny95:
why are not open minded? Well did you read chapter 1:18 it was talking about Jesus death and resurrection to immortal life. "am the First and the Last, 18 and the living one, and I became dead, but look! I am living forever and ever". Why did you Dodge the question I asked? U have no ans to it? Jesus is an apostle of whom? Heb. 3:1 high priest serve as a mediator to God for humans. Jesus is a high priest to whom? Himself? You?
Does that mean Jesus is in rank with his apostles?
Let me tell you, Dan.7:13" I kept watching in the visions of the night, and look! with the clouds of the heavens, someone like a son of man was coming; and he gained access to the Ancient of Days, and they brought him up close before that One. 14 And to him there were given rulership, honor, and a kingdom, that the peoples, nations, and language groups should all serve him. His rulership is an everlasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom will not be destroyed."
the ancient of days Jehovah gave rulership to the son of man Jesus,to tell u they are two different people, is that not understandable enough? U claim JWs teach false doctrine, go n research and you will know Trinity is falsehood, from idolatry. U have being swimming in falsehood all your life.

DoctorAlien:


So this is what Rev. 1:18 is talking about?

So Jehovah is the first to do what and the Last to do what?

truthislight:


You have now seen that Yahweh is also coming, that the Rev 1 was talking interchangeably about Jesus and Yahweh. Yahweh is also coming, hence your Delusion should go to rest now.