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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Peacefullove: 2:37pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
solite3: You are saying Yehsua is Yahweh , this guy needs a knock on the head. Jewish folks hate you guys cos you are distorting their history and traditions Okay read this Yahweh have a son . I will tell of the decree. Yahweh said to me, "You are my son. Today I have become your father. - psalm 2 vs 7 How then can Yahweh be Jesus, [size=26] did Jesus have son ? [/size] 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Nobody: 2:39pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
truthislight:with this you have proved that Jesus is Yahweh. The starting of this prophecy shows that it was Jesus that sent his Angel and the last chapter confirms it. Jesus is Almighty God! |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 2:40pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
truthislight, Phil. 2:9 says GOD gave Jesus Christ a name above every name. Which name is above every name? Does it mean that name is above Jehovah? Cc: barny95 |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Peacefullove: 2:44pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: Now you separate God from Jesus. Smh yet your thinking didnt open. Which God gave Jesus a name ? The true God ? 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Nobody: 2:48pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
False witnesses deny that Jesus resurrected himself from the grave and also claim that Jesus did not rise with his human body! But see this verse that completely destroy their false teaching, John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up John 2:21 But he spake of the temple of his body. Jesus was clearly referring to his body Jesus is Jehovah God. I have every proof. |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 2:52pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
truthislight, Psa. 138:2 says GOD has magnified His word above all His name. Who is the Word of GOD? Cc: barny95 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Peacefullove: 2:58pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: bible sef na word of God, confuse set of people 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 3:00pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
solite3: How JWs twist the Scriptures:
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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 3:04pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
The Bible calls Jesus Christ The First and the Last. JWs say GOD the Father is the First and the Last. They say Jesus is the first to be resurrected to immortality and the last "to be resurrected by GOD to immortality." Fine. Jehovah is the first to do what and the last to do what? 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Peacefullove: 3:06pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
solite3 You are saying Yehsua is Yahweh , this guy needs a knock on the head. Jewish folks hate you guys cos you are distorting their history and traditions Okay read this Yahweh have a son . I will tell of the decree. Yahweh said to me, "You are my son. Today I have become your father. - psalm 2 vs 7 How then can Yahweh be Jesus, [size=27] did Jesus have son ? [/size] 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 3:19pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
barny95: Explain the bolded in the light of Jn. 2:19-21. Also, show us a place where The Bible says Jehovah will resurrect people through Jesus Christ. |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by barny95(m): 4:02pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:why did you remove the word" directly", just to suit ur claims? There many ways Jehovah could be the first and the Last, one of these is that what he first purposes he will at last perform. U haven't explain Heb. 3:1 and Dan. 7:13,oh they prove ur Trinity is falsehood, I can see you u can't explain them. Don't b dumb in ur reasoning 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by dolphinheart(m): 4:06pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:continue to spew falsehood! rev 1:8 New International Version "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." English Standard Version “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” New American Standard Bible "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty." International Standard Version "I am the Alpha and the Omega," declares the Lord God, "the one who is, who was, and who is coming, the Almighty." NET Bible "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God--the one who is, and who was, and who is still to come--the All-Powerful! you can even go and study who the "Lord God " is in your bible. I've told you to read and study verses 1-8 but you refused!, why ? cus you know the answer is there! from genesis to revelation, the scriptures has told you several times who the Almighty is. not once has Jesus been said to be Almighty God! 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by barny95(m): 4:19pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:Did the Bible not say at 1cor.15:27,28." 27 For God “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that this does not include the One who subjected all things to him. 28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone." God subjected everything to him excluding God who subjected all things to him. If God and Jesus is the same person would that verse exclude God who subjected everything at his feet? So when God gave him a name above every name it is with the exclusion of Jehovah God 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by barny95(m): 4:26pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
DoctorAlien:mathew 28:18, 18 Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth." all authority was given him including the authority to call and raise up the dead. John 5:28,29. 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 4:27pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
barny95: Was authority to know the time of the end also given to Him? Since all authority was given Him. |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Nobody: 4:27pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
Peacefullove:you said Jesus is a false god, tell me did a false god create the heaven and the earth? |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Nobody: 4:29pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
Jesus has all authority both in heaven and on earth then he is Almighty. |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 4:30pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
barny95, Show us in the Bible where it says the Name above every name given to Jesus according to Phil. 2:9 is not above the Name of Jehovah. |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 4:33pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
solite3: Don't mind JWs.
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Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Peacefullove: 4:33pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
solite3:^^ there is an ONLY true God, which Yeshua point to at John 17 vs 3 , ONLY TRUE , ONLY ! dont you go to school ? that renders Jesus a False God , agree ? secondly , Yahweh have a son psalm 2 vs 7 . if Jesus is Yahweh , DID JESUS HAVE A SON ? 2 Likes |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 4:34pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
dolphinheart, If all authority has been given to Jesus, is not Almighty? What can He not do? What does "Almighty" mean? |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Peacefullove: 4:36pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: your Almighty god still needed to be GIVEN authority ? 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by dolphinheart(m): 4:39pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
solite3:I brought up two people called " the president", wherever they are, wherever they may go, they are both called president. I did not bring up domain!. you saw my statement , yet you ask a wrong question: your logic is false, you say Jesus is not the father , so Jesus is not the same being as the father, so we have 2 beings, yet both are called mighty God!. false teachings cannot stand scrutiny! titles like the president, Lord, mighty God, can be used for more than one person , you yourself admit that Jesus is not the same person as the father, yet both are called mighty god. or do you want to change your belief to Jesus is same person as the father?. do you want to say that mighty God has multiple personality? made up of two different persons?. If you reason your doctrines well, you will know it cannot stand scrutiny. only one person is said to be Almighty God, has identified himself as Almighty God! only menorah is ever called "most high", and to show you that Jesus is not the most high, the scriptures on several occasions tell you Jesus is sitting at the right hand of the most high. the one who is said to be, who claims to be, who the scriptures identified as the most high told Jesus to sit at his right hand THE MOST HIGH WAS NOT TALKING TO HIMSELF! Let's see if you can answer : Da 7:13“I kept watching in the visions of the night, and look! with the clouds of the heavens, someone like a son of man was coming; and he gained access to the Ancient of Days, and they brought him up close before that One. solite3, pls tell, who is the son of man and who is the ancient of days Ac 7:56and he said: “Look! I see the heavens opened up and the Son of man standing at God’s right hand.” pls tell , who did Stephen see, who did he call God and who did he call the son of man? If Stephen, full of holy spirit , could identify and separate Jesus from God, why don't you want to accept it. Stephen indicated Jesus as being at the right side of God, therefore, Jesus is not the God he is at the right side of, now if you claim Jesus is that same God, did Stephen see a wrong vision? 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 4:39pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
barny95: Do you mean that before Jesus was raised from the dead, He had no authority to resurrect people? |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Peacefullove: 4:40pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
DoctorAlien: the Almighty under no circumstances need no one to GIVE him anything, that alone defeat your argument and throw it in the dustbin. use your brain 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Nobody: 4:45pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
Peacefullove:you refused to answer my question. Jesus and his father are one! Saying the father is the only true God also mean that he is the only true God. Acknowledging Jesus means acknowledging the father and vice versa. 1 John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by DoctorAlien(m): 4:50pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
barny95, Please define the word "Almighty". |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Peacefullove: 4:53pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
solite3: stop speaking like a dullard , two persons are not addressed with ONLY . they are not one person. so stop quoting what you dont understand you can as well tell me when Jesus die , his Father die too na , since they are one , abi ? You are a big Joke he called his Father the Only true God , not himself , that render him a False God , you agree ? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Peacefullove: 4:54pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
solite3: stop speaking like a dullard , two persons are not addressed with ONLY . they are not one person. so stop quoting what you dont understand you can as well tell me when Jesus die , his Father die too na , since they are one , abi ? You are a big joke he called his Father the Only true God , not himself , that render him a False God , you agree ? 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by dolphinheart(m): 4:57pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
solite3: solite3, prophecies shows Jehovah, talking about his servant , Jesus fulfilled those prophecies. jehovah was not talking about himself Jehovah when talking about himself uses I , me , and other words to signify hims elf as only one person, jehovah is not 2 persons talking as one I person! The scriptures tells us that jehovah is the most high , Jesus is sitting at the right hand of the most high, thus Jesus is not the most high! and jesus is not Jehova! when God said "let us", God was not talking to himself ! or was he? unless you want to claim that God is more than one person, which means there are more than one God! Remember the other part of that same verse says "our"!. There are miriads of spirit creatures in heaven when God said this, but for you to understand who God was talking to , read these verses: Pr 8:30 Then I was beside him as a master worker. I was the one he was especially fond of day by day; I rejoiced before him all the time; Heb 1:1Long ago God spoke to our forefathers by means of the prophets on many occasions and in many ways. New World Translation Heb 1:2Now at the end of these days he has spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the systems of things. 1 Like |
Re: Why Not Get The Perspective Of Jehovah's Witnesses? Ask Ur Questions Here. by Tellemall: 5:01pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
JMAN05: I don't know how to quote your individual sentences, but I'm going to answer in as much order as I can. I asked if you aren't just another sect, and what makes you guys feel your sect is better than some, such as Catholicism. Both of you have aspects of Christianity you distort. If your brand of Christianity wasn't what Christ preached then it cannot be Christianity, this should be the standard used to measure up all forms of Christianity. You did not seem to understand my question about why the Jehovah Witness use a different Bible translation that emphasizes only the things that Jehovah Witness want to see. I asked why there is only an emphasis on paradise, in a way that other forms of Christianity do not ardently hold on to. True, there is talk of paradise in the Bible. But why is it the selling point(pardon my analogy)? Surely there are other promises than paradise in the Bible? My next question is the matter of the means of crucifixion of Christ Jesus. I do not say this lightly under the influence of bias, but from experience, that the oldest and most loyal members of Jehovah Witness hold this as a Trump card over the rest of Christianity. They are always gleeful of this point, as if to say that their translation of "tree" from the silver Bible is better than other ones. Why is this so? Why should it matter so much and be wielded as a weapon against other Christians? Most times, people believe your religious organization to be a peculiar sect because when proselytized to, all we hear are gushes of "paradise" and "government" and "new world". So what makes you think you aren't just a human created movement like the Lutheran's etc? Although I would rather a Jehovah Witness preached to me, since they are the only people who remember that last commandment. One last complaint(the real reason for commenting on thread): WHY ARE YOU GUYS NOW STINGY WITH AWAKE? Before I didn't have to ask for it. Now I have to demand for it and when I ask I'm given the Watchtower instead. You guys don't even ask for contributions any more. Why? |
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