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RabbaRabbi:
truelly, the guy must be an APC MEMBER, because of his lies

i wonder which church him dey attend, wey dey teacham all dis trash...

he can only fool babes not grown up like me... Tufiaaa* spits on thread *

ItsQuinn:
90% of guys on romanceland have a very low IQ

Diddyydiva:
I hope this isn't true


Good morning BTW

Laveda:
No, it doesn't make sense.

Just see how you twisting the bible and making it go in line with your selfish thoughts, so a man is allowed to commit adultery and nothing will happen and when the woman does same? Hell will let loose..

This is total bullcrap!

I'm all for equity.

Toks2008:
[b]The Islamic injunction clearly states that if a woman has evidence against her husband on adultery, she has the right to ask for divorce. If he accepts and divorces her, then praise be to Allaah, otherwise she may pay him compensation in return for Khul.(Please refer to Fataawa 89039 and 85031).

In the Christendom i have seen countless cases where a wife quickly divorces her husband because he commits adultery even when he has apologized profusely and the lady will be quick to point to the bible as a viable source for her action.

This write up does not encourage adultery in any form but it is about pointing out the erroneous belief as regards the issue.Every man must love and try to be faithful to his wife but nevertheless the fact that your husband commits adultery is never a ground in the bible for you to divorce him and any lady who divorces her husband as a result of adultery and marries another man has committed a sin but if a man abandons you outrightly and walks out of the union without any intention to reconcile then you are very very free to remarry and that we will clearly see from the Bible.[/b]

The bible is generally believed not to be gender specific and when "he" is used it automatically refers to both genders and I quite agree with this postulation. But when it comes to passages that refer to marriage there are specific messages to the husband and to the wife and when Jesus addressed the issue, he was very gender specific and this does not address the woman...

Now let's have a comprehensively look at the passage in the Bible that addressed this issue.

Matthew 19:3-9

Some Pharisees approached Him to test Him. They asked, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife on any grounds?" "Haven't you read," He replied, "that He who created them in the beginning made them male and female,He also said: For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two will become one flesh? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, man must not separate." Why then," they asked Him, "did Moses command us to give divorce papers and to send her away?"He told them, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because of the hardness of your hearts. But it was not like that from the beginning.And I tell you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery."

These Bible passages clearly makes us understand that divorcing a spouse based on adultery is an instruction for the husband and not for the wife.

So the question is on what ground does GOD permit a woman to divorce her husband?
The answer to this is found in the book of 1 Corinthians chp 7:15:
Yet if the unbelieving one leaves, let him leave; the brother or the sister is not under bondage in such cases, but God has called [e]us [f]to peace.

This passage clearly maintains that the only viable reason where a woman is allowed to divorce her husband is desertion meaning if the man decides to outrightly abandon the marriage and leaves,the woman is not bound but free to remarry...but as the passage concludes,GOD has called us to peace meaning GOD does not want divorce of any kind and should be avoided at all cost.


Hope this makes sense.

KingCheezyPuff:
[color=#00cccc]Wow. Yer delusioned. Or in denial.
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KingCheezyPuff:
[color=#ff99ff]you trolled me. My written English has absolutely nothing 2 do with my supposed feminist views.
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You trolled and poorly at that.
Yer own English was flawed as you did it.[/color]

genieluv:
Hmm, this guy, what do u really want from women? Times are changing and many wrong things that were tolerated in the past by women can no longer hold. Equality is now coming in to bridge the gap and this is something u African men must come to accept.

Gradually going and very soon to be gone are the days when women were legally enslaved in the name of marriage.

Are you saying that if a woman's husband is very promiscuous and cheats regularly, the woman should still stay in the marriage and allow the man bring home STDs and come and infect her?

Toks2008:
I really laughed out loud after reading your comment.

I have no grudge against any woman and contrary to what I allow people to believe on nairaland...I am not divorced and I won't say I'm really married but I so much enjoy the mystery about my status on nairaland....

Nevertheless I have seen and mediated in many marital scuffle and there is a wide spread anomaly which is now so deep rooted and that is what I intend to correct. .

The bible admonishes General overseers to be a husband of one wife but does not specifically state that polygamy is a sin...I guess the bible somewhat gives room for polygamy as it is evident that the best friends of God in the Bible were clearly polygamous men.

I believe that this is why it was never instructed in the bible for a woman to divorce her husband as a result of adultery rather it is the man who was asked to do that

The fact that many ladies are quick to run out of their marriage because their husbands cheated on them and even holding on to the bible as excuse is sickening and this is why I'm addressing this issue.

Adultery is a sin no doubt but God never instructed the wife to divorce her husband over it so let's call a spade what it is.

When I created a thread that ladies should not marry except they are ready for the possibility of sharing their man with another lady they asked for my head but this is the reality of life many unmarried ladies can never understand until they are faced with the fact after marriage.

I'm not supporting adultery but it is also wrong for people to twist the bible.

It is however painful that nairaland is filled with many noise makers,blabber and trolls who lack the intelligence to counter issues with facts except very few intelligent ones but instead will start picking on my persona.

Most Nigerian readers have this awkward mindset of juxtaposing a write up expecially on romance to the life of the writer and this to me is sickening.

ItsQuinn:
You call people unintelligent because they don't agree to your beliefs or your ideas? After all God created people to have their own path and beliefs, to think for themselves and not let people think for them, and also to be creative. Until you learn to be open minded, accept or respect other people's beliefs, people will not take you seriously.

For your information, I don't care whether you believe this or not, you have every right to disagree: The world is constantly changing and evolving. In this life there always a beginning and an ending, until you learn to accept that fact you can never move forward in life. The world is moving forward from past beliefs and people who stick with beliefs of the past will never grow, rather they will remain stagnant or fall. 90% of Nigerians have this mentality that's why Nigeria refuse to grow and remain backward, soon Nigeria will fall if we continue to stick to past beliefs. It's either we learn to evolve with the world or perish! That's life for you, deal with it! Change is forvever constant!

Toks2008:
Can't you just understand that there is a line between trolling and making intellectual contributions?

You keep picking on me and this is the lack of intelligence and intellectual stuntedness I'm talking about.

Why on earth will I call someone who opposes me unintelligent? I'm too intellectually sound for that but when you just troll and pick on me as you keep doing over and over it will only give an impression that you have nothing reasonable to contribute.

Please I beg you for Petes sake to make sense and make targeted comments as regards the topic and freaking leave my personal life out of this.

Rather than discuss the subject she keeps ranting about me being stagnant and not moving forward on top wettin? have we met before or do you know my state of life? Please make sense or keep mum.

ItsQuinn:
how am I picking on you? We are having a normal discussion.

ItsQuinn:
until you learn to accept that fact you can never move forward in life

ItsQuinn:
He thinks he knows everything but he knows nothing

ItsQuinn:
btw you aren't meant to support divorce because you're already divorced. This thread you created right here shows your big hypocrisy. I definitely won't be taking you seriously then

Toks2008:
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If you call those normal conversation then i fear what you will tag heated or abnormal.

It seems you are so lost in your baseless rhetorics and unfounded personal attacks that you now see yourself as having normal conversation. I will be forced to ignore you so well on my threads if you can not comport yourself to communicate soundly. Blaming me for writing my personal story goes to show how immature you can be because first and foremost these stories are various versions of the busy bodies nairaland toddlers who have no scruples and lack intelligence to discuss issues but resorted to creating funny stories about me which i gladly played along with.

I think its time i ignored you until you learn how to communicate maturely.

ItsQuinn:
Sorry I'm meant to say you aren't meant to judge someone because they choose to divorce since you're already divorced. I call it big hypocrisy!

Toks2008:
This write up will shake the marital world.

ItsQuinn:
CAPITAL YES! Read Romans 7:1-6

jaybillionaire:
Don't tell us to go n read it cos we won't, u just quote it to back up ur claims, at least u can see dt Toks is explicit enuf, dn't be lazy to type Wt is in thr

ItsQuinn:
how am I picking on you? We are having a normal discussion. And I didn't mention anything about your personal life in my last post. Is it my fault you decided to talk about your personal life on an open forum, it's your mistake not mine. Im only stating my opinion and contributing to the thread because I have free will to do so. Only a coward will claim victim because I challenge his/her opinion. If you don't like when people disagree with you or challenge your opinion you can simply ignore or deactivate. ..... This post and your previous post lacks logic and reasoning. Most of your arguments lack logic and reasoning as well. That's why people will never take you serious

jaybillionaire:
Lol, u r still not bn logical dear, u r more of bn emotional, why not tackle Toks with points n make us believe he is wrong

Toks2008:
Lalasticlala don't say i have come again.

There are just some anomalous teachings that should be ironed out.

jaybillionaire:
Lol, u r still not bn logical dear, u r more of bn emotional, why not tackle Toks with points n make us believe he is wrong

Toks2008:
[b]I have heard and seen many cases where a lady quickly divorces her husband because he cheated on her regardless of how apologetic the man becomes and the woman will be so quick to point to the scriptures as a viable reference to buttress her actions but then i kept wondering if this is really the case. Did GOD permit the wife to divorce the husband on the ground of adultery?

This write up does not encourage adultery in any form but it is about pointing out the erroneous belief as regards the issue in relation to the scriptures.Every man must love and be faithful to his wife.I expect insightful contributions to counter my opinion on this matter without any form of sarcasm,attacks on my persona or use of vulgar words.

In Islam there are laid down guidelines to follow if a wife has good evidence that her husbands committed adultery(Please refer to Fataawa 89039 and 85031).

Nevertheless in the Bible,the fact that your husband commits adultery is never a ground for you to divorce him[/b]

The bible is generally believed not to be gender specific and when "he" is used it automatically refers to both genders and I quite agree with this postulation. But when it comes to passages that refer to marriage there are specific messages to the husband and to the wife and when Jesus addressed the issue, he was very gender specific and this does not address the woman...

Now let's have a comprehensively look at the passage in the Bible that addressed this issue.

Matthew 19:5-9

" Why then," they asked Him, "did Moses command us to give divorce papers and to send her away?"He told them, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because of the hardness of your hearts. But it was not like that from the beginning.And I tell you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery."

This Bible passages clearly makes us understand that divorcing a spouse based on adultery is an instruction for the husband and not for the wife.Nevertheless the only reason a wife can divorce her husband is when the husband outrightly abandons the marriage and leaves the wife without any scriptural reason as stated in the book of 1 Corinthians chp 7:15


I Hope this makes sense.

doveda:
You have no right to tell her that she is not logical because the last time I checked the Agbaya based his BS on a religious text. And religion and logic do not go together, if at all it is merely subject to different interpretations

jaybillionaire:
But the religious text is still a fact and the platform at which marriage form it's basis. So that is logical of him enough. U both need to drop facts to gainsay his claims else u both give up on him

doveda:
Nah, marriage has nothing to do with religion.

I have given up on the Agbaya

lezznjr:
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Another mediocre, ill-thought out submission.

You often dabble into deep waters you aren't skilled enough to navigate.

The Bible isn't gender specific on divorce. Jesus' disciples were males and they asked if a "Man" could divorce his wife and Jesus gave a streamlined answer.


The Bible permits divorce on the grounds of adultery for both sexes ( see the works of St. Paul). What is prohibited is Remarriage which has become opened to denominational interpretations anyway.

Vikky014:
Toks2008 what you are trying to tell us is that JESUS WAS GENDER SPECIFIC in his teachings why did he ask the adulterous woman to go and sin no morefor your information the bible didnt command us to die in an abusive relationship please...cheating in marriage is an emotional abuse..i cant stand a cheating partner.....Jesus said we shld cut away anything that can deprive us of his kingdom