See the problem of religion? @op, instead pray that you should have knowledge to doubt, and knowledge to further question things. Then, find god if it really exists. If you find god, you'll be convinced beyond any reasonable doubt and able to stand against any questioning. If you don't, you'll realise that your 'god' is a figment of your imagination.

ever811:
organism put it self together.. lol..so u don't even know a thing about your believe?..I wish I can find you and give you a dirty slap..how do we get here Mr organism son of mazi fossil?

slap who?is he the cause of the poor education you have received in your life

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hopefulLandlord:


this is a fallacy called "false dichotomy"

"you either belongs to this side or that side"

lol

such false dichotomy fallacy led to the flying Spaghetti Monster and the Invisible Pink Unicorn

do atheist die? If your answer is yes why. If u feel u re ur own god Y can't u even create life of an insect and u feel confident to say there ain't someone superior than you? U re just a shadow of a fool. U know that? There's God believe it or not.

Edenoscar:

hehehe nah your person oo

I know say you be my padi but why you choose atheism?

The Atheists want a physical prove to believe unfortunately, God is not physical and thus not bound by physical rules.

The only prove against God is if you can itemize events before the big bang. Big bang started with something (matter) what created/ made that matter out of no matter?

hopefulLandlord:
.n

Toooo Much Fallacy in that empty rhetoric you spill from that book of yours


"The fool has said in his heart, 'There is no God.' They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that does good." (Psalms 14:1)

ad hominem fallacy : An argument is discounted based on attacking the character of the person making the argument. ("He is wrong when he says there is no God, because he is a fool."

strawman fallacy : Arguing against a position by creating a different, weaker, or irrelevant position and refuting that position instead of the original. ("There is no God" misrepresents "There isn't sufficient evidence that God exists."

circular reasoning : The truth of the conclusion is assumed in order to justify the premises. ("The fool says there is no God, because anyone who says there is no God is a fool."

begging the question : The argument creates a secondary proposition that is related to the primary proposition, which requires a similar argument that is missing. (The existence of God is assumed, while addressing propositions of whether God exists.)

fallacy of inconsistency : The argument is inconsistent with other arguments within the same context.
In the Christian context, Jesus commands against the invective in Psalms 14:1, warning that
"whoever says 'You fool!' shall be liable to the hell of fire" in Matthew 5:22.

special pleading : The inappropriate attribution of emotive functions to objects that do not have that capability. (Hearts are not capable of "knowing" or of feeling emotions.)

redundancy : Psalm 53 is identical to Psalm 14.

questionable premise : It is obviously not the case that all atheists do nothing but bad deeds. This premise is invalidated by a single example of an atheist doing a single charitable act.

those are the different fallacies committed by just one verse

lmao!

shut your rotten mouth already...
You are an atheist, fine..
But stop trying to convince others and stop being a jackass in all threads...looking at almost all your post, its always attacking and attacking...u no dey tire?
I can see that you are just trying to comfort yourself as an atheist..
Imagine yourself digging up all threads about atheist and repasting the links in an innocent thread as this..#so childish#
for how long are u gona keep fighting, is this the life you signed up for when you became an atheist?
I know sum atheist 2, we are cool, they don't even say a word about it nor try convicing you, they even help you pray in distress jux to ease the pain...GROW UP PLEASE, I REPEAT,....GROW UP

exmuslim1:
It's "belief" not "believe". Attend that 20naira-per-day lesson wey dey your street. Pull your head out of your ass. And I never told you I'm an Atheist.

hehehe..so what are you? or you don't know?

henrimoto:



The Great One that we don't see but we are witnesses to his awesome creations.

It is not knowledge that makes people deny God but foolishness. Reason why the scripture says 'A fool says in his heart, there is no God'. Real knowledge leads us to God not away from him because it is God himself that gives knowledge.

Edenoscar:

slap who?His he the cause of the poor education you have received in your life

who be this mumu?...before you mention my poor education...I beg read what you type carefully this time nd you be disappointed with your self....."His he"..lol...

Anyone that said GOD exists not is a mortal fool--logical or not. those who didnt believe probably not believe in mystery --Who can be the First and at the same time be the Last, Beginning and at the same time the Ending, Dead and yet ALIVE, except LORD GOD ALMIGHTY?

shadeyinka:


Thank you! Very well taken.

How about you? A god!

..and you know how Man evolved, you also know how animals came to be...You are god!

Kai! Today I met either the most humble god or one who is confused about his identity.

Lolz...i never said I was God. Read my post well. And answer my question?

philfearon:

Exactly how did God heal you?

Are you expecting me to tell you that god performed a brain surgery like doctors toy with your body system? If you expect me to tell you how god pulled out a few medulla obloganta, then you are the one who needs serious education. You tell me how many doctors you know that have healed patients of this illness.
The problem with atheist is that you expect God's ways to be like man's way, forgetting that his ways are not like ours.
I pray you have genuine encounter with him then you will realised you haven't been living but merely existing.

osjoshua:


shut your rotten mouth already...
You are an atheist, fine..
But stop trying to convince others and stop being a jackass in all threads...looking at almost all your post, its always attacking and attacking...u no dey tire?
I can see that you are just trying to comfort yourself as an atheist..
Imagine yourself digging up all threads about atheist and repasting the links in an innocent thread as this..#so childish#
for how long are u gona keep fighting, is this the life you signed up for when you became an atheist?
I know sum atheist 2, we are cool, they don't even say a word about it nor try convicing you, they even help you pray in distress jux to ease the pain...GROW UP PLEASE, I REPEAT,....GROW UP

so much pain and venom in one post

cuteralph101:
Lolz...i never said I was God. Read my post well. And answer my question?

I am so so sorry. I guess I mixed someone's post with yours. He claims he is independent of God..enlightened!

I like this post of yours: pls keep it up

cuteralph101:
Does evil exist?

The university professor challenged his students with this question. Did God create everything that exists? A student bravely replied, "Yes, he did!"

"God created everything? The professor asked.

"Yes sir", the student replied.

The professor answered, "If God created everything, then God created evil since evil exists, and according to the principal that our works define who we are then God is evil". The student became quiet before such an answer. The professor was quite pleased with himself and boasted to the students that he had proven once more that the Christian faith was a myth.

Another student raised his hand and said, "Can I ask you a question professor?"

"Of course", replied the professor.

The student stood up and asked, "Professor, does cold exist?"

"What kind of question is this? Of course it exists. Have you never been cold?" The students snickered at the young man's question.

The young man replied, "In fact sir, cold does not exist. According to the laws of physics, what we consider cold is in reality the absence of heat. Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (-460 degrees F) is the total absence of heat; all matter becomes inert and incapable of reaction at that temperature. Cold does not exist. We have created this word to describe how we feel if we have no heat."

The student continued, "Professor, does darkness exist?"

The professor responded, "Of course it does."

The student replied, "Once again you are wrong sir, darkness does not exist either. Darkness is in reality the absence of light. Light we can study, but not darkness. In fact we can use Newton's prism to break white light into many colors and study the various wavelengths of each color. You cannot measure darkness. A simple ray of light can break into a world of darkness and illuminate it. How can you know how dark a certain space is? You measure the amount of light present. Isn't this correct? Darkness is a term used by man to describe what happens when there is no light present."

Finally the young man asked the professor, "Sir, does evil exist?"

Now uncertain, the professor responded, "Of course as I have already said. We see it every day. It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil."

To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is not like faith, or love that exist just as does light and heat. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light."

The professor sat down

cuteralph101:
do atheist die? If your answer is yes why. If u feel u re ur own god Y can't u even create life of an insect and u feel confident to say there ain't someone superior than you? U re just a shadow of a fool. U know that? There's God believe it or not.

lmao

do you even read what you type?

when as an atheist ever called himself god?

no kill me with laughter abeg

hopefulLandlord:


so much pain and venom in one post

this is not living bro..
Seriously, get a peaceful life..
You're better than this..good evening, hope u had a nice day

charliboy654:
What I know is that Christian will go to Muslim hell fire and Muslim will go to Christian hell fire.

Case closed! Lol.

And this is just for the two dominant religions in Nigeria, now think about the over 4,200 religions in the world.

osjoshua:

this is not living bro..
Seriously, get a peaceful life..
You're better than this..good evening, hope u had a nice day

less venom, now we can talk well

I had and I'm having a nice day

I have my reasons for being here and being active, I want freedom from religion and it starts on a faceless forum

as soon as atheism becomes much more acceptable in Nigeria, I promise I would barely be in the religion section



freedom of religion and freedom FROM religion is the goal

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hopefulLandlord:

less venom, now we can talk well

I had and I'm having a nice day

I have my reasons for being here and being active, I want freedom from religion and it starts on a faceless forum

as soon as atheism becomes much more acceptable in Nigeria, I promise I would barely be in the religion section



freedom of religion and freedom FROM religion is the goal

most christians have their reasons..i don't think trying to free people is the way out..
Be peaceful with others, accept what they believe in and stop fighting and fighting.
You think i'm senseless and i thinking same to you won't solve anything but only hatred..
Even Jesus moved with athiest, ate with them(dnt ask me the verse, cos thats what you are probably thinking,i dnt wana fight)


Personally, i have my reasons as a christians and i dnt have to explain to u..
i love my life, i love science , i live peacefully and i hope it continues this way

dexterinc2003:
Cant everyone just believe in whatever they choose to believe in in and let peace reign?
Christians cannot prove the presence of God
Atheists cannot prove the absence of God.
If Christianity never got to Africa, most Christians carrying it on their head would be worshiping their 'idols' jejely or viciously.
All i know is that everyone's story is different, and there is a reason why we have different beliefs and religions.
Let us try to respect everyone's belief. The white men dont carry religion on their head and they are way ahead of Africans.
Love should be the only religion on earth.

The Whitemen even bought our idols and exported them to their countries. Africans are the most gullible people I have ever seen. Can you imagine the fierce contest over whose religion is superior?

And it really shows stupidity for one religion to claim that it's the ONLY WAY and goes ahead to proclaim so. If you carefully study the reasons behind religious crises in Nigeria, you will observe that it is largely caused by one religion trying to impose it's doctrines, tenets and superiority over the other.

How can you open your mouth and declare curses on someone because they don't believe what you believe. Imagine shouting on the streets and telling adherents of another religion that "if they don't repent and follow your religion, they will die".

It is alright for a Christian to quote from the bible or Muslim from the Qur'an in supporting their argument, but it is wrong to contend that yours is the general standard because there are over 4,200 religions with their books also.

Believe whatever you choose to believe and do so without annoyingly berating others. Can't we just have religious tolerance?

There is nobody here whose great grandfather was a Christian or Muslim but they lived in a better society than we have now.

Can anybody here tell me the difference between God, Allah, Brahma, Olorun, Chukwu, Dei etc?

Edenoscar:

lol am eternal i exist outside space and time

Where outside space and time? After naming the place, who or what created it

wristbangle:


Where outside space and time? After naming the place, who or what created it

lol.. Dont question just take it by faith

I KNOW THERE'S A GOD IN HEAVEN, THE MOST POWERFUL! Only a fool will say in his heart there's no God.

stephenmorris:
I have prayed like this before but today I am an atheist .see my friend God does not exist
, if knowing right from wrong without being a Christian or moslem and someone tells me am wrong and lost , I just look at how such person has been so enslaved by foreign religions,
note:I hold no grudge against any Christian or moslem because im not here to make you an atheist, its your choice to make, study your religions and its history and weigh the evidence, if you choose to still remain a Christian good if you choose atheism good as long as you are a good citizen of the country you dwell in.
I don't have problems with Christian friends either.
cc:hahn, Loj, philferon

. Continue allowing the big bang theory to deceive you when I remember romans 1 vs 18 to 32. I continue to ask are u stronger than God, it is a very painful thing to fall into the wrath of God. Even when there are evidences of God,s power and Godhead are clearly seen in our daily lives some people still want to joke with fire, as for me nobody can sweettalk me into believe that God dosent exist.

histemple:


Case closed! Lol.

And this is just for the two dominant religions in Nigeria, now think about the over 4,200 religions in the world.

Wow, 4200, and all of them claim to be right.

osjoshua:

most christians have their reasons..i don't think trying to free people is the way out..
Be peaceful with others, accept what they believe in and stop fighting and fighting.
You think i'm senseless and i thinking same to you won't solve anything but only hatred..
Even Jesus moved with athiest, ate with them(dnt ask me the verse, cos thats what you are probably thinking,i dnt wana fight)


Personally, i have my reasons as a christians and i dnt have to explain to u..
i love my life, i love science , i live peacefully and i hope it continues this way

I can't help but ask the verse

but I don't think theists are senseless, in fact I usually restrict my attacks to the idea and not the personality, just go through my posts and see for yourself, I hardly criticise people themselves; I in fact avoid that like a horrible plague, I simply poke holes and sow seed of doubts in their god idea

example is the fallacy post you quoted first, just look through it and you'll see I attacked the verse and not the poster, I hate insults and ad hominem

but if he did eat with atheists (I doubt that) why are those "Christlike" people hating atheists physically?

why are we being seriously discriminated against?

its obvious something is wrong somewhere

and I won't be here if we were free from religion

have you ever wondered why you meet so many atheists on Nairaland but barely know anyone in real life?

american gays also used medium like this to vent their frustration and its worked for them

we want to be given a voice and not keep pretending everywhere and to everyone

I want us to be able to tell people with a straight face that we're atheists when asked what religion I belong to without fear and trembling


I'm not here to "free theists" NO

I'm here to free atheists and these go a long way to make atheism more acceptable

years ago, most Nigerians never even knew what atheism means, now they're all knowing what it means and soon we'll be able to come out of the closet

I usually don't talk like this to people but you strike me like someone worth it

Okeyson4wisdom:
. Continue allowing the big bang theory to deceive you when I remember romans 1 vs 18 to 32. I continue to ask are u stronger than God, it is a very painful thing to fall into the wrath of God. Even when there are evidences of God,s power and Godhead are clearly seen in our daily lives some people still want to joke with fire, as for me nobody can sweettalk me into believe that God dosent exist.

no one is sweettalking you into believing in god or disbelieving in god all i am saying is if you can believe and be proud to make known your beliefs why can't i,is it fair?,and i don't believe in the big bang theory ,for your info even the big bang theory was brought and proposed by a religious catholic priest man by named georges lemoitre from belgium

hopefulLandlord:


how is he "lost"?

he's so Lost cos he feels there's no God due to his xperience in life

He feels he created himself because some white men introduced education to him... I pray he finds d truth

hopefulLandlord:


how is he "lost"?

he's so Lost cos he feels there's no God due to his xperience in life

He feels he created himself because some white men introduced education to him... I pray he finds d truth... notin can exist by itself

hopefulLandlord:


this is a fallacy called "false dichotomy"

"you either belongs to this side or that side"

lol

such false dichotomy fallacy led to the flying Spaghetti Monster and the Invisible Pink Unicorn

well, mayb u need to encounter cos I'm sure it's not white men that Thort u all that... i will advice u to allow ur conscience speak 2 u

stephenmorris:
no one is sweettalking you into believing in god or disbelieving in god all i am saying is if you can believe and be proud to make known your beliefs why can't i,is it fair?,and i don't believe in the big bang theory ,for your info even the big bang theory was brought and proposed by a religious catholic priest man by named georges lemoitre from belgium

how about denying that father and mother never gave birth to you and u want the whole world to clap for you I wanna ask you, you have a conscience isn't it that tell you your wrong whenever u do something wrong it tells you, and hear the voice but u can't see it and u believe the things it tells you and then you doubt the Almighty that though we don't see him but one of the evidences that he is alive is that conscience inside you, please I urge you to seek God early so as to escape the wrath upon those that doubt his existence