Empiree:
Well, i cut it short bcus the brother was acting fuuny. Thats why i let it slide. What he doesn't understand is, it is impossible that Allah tells us everything of His mystery theoretically. This story i was telling him was just a tip. I think i have full lecture on it in one of my threads. Anyways, the story was narrated by Sheikh Akindele who specializes in quqya.

The more you practice the more you acquire vast experience about many things that are not even directly mentioned in the Quran or hadith. But the brother doesnt get it. It is like a trained medical doctor who just finished masters and got hired. It is not possible for the doctor to know everything in medical school without practicing what he learned. It is only during hands on training (on the practical level) he gains more experiences or discovers more.

Well, Sheikh Akindele said his client who is a Yoruba Muslim man denied existence of jinn. And he was warned by people. But God so good, He showed him the haqiqa.(reality). Now what I was really trying to tell the brother was that, the same Shik Akindele narrated his experience about a lady that got possessed. We all know ruqya is performed on someone who is possessed by jinn and jinn talks through the person. We can see this on YouTube. This is very common throughout history. But this sheik narrated something I have never heard before. That a lady was possessed by fellow human being. The woman (a witch) claimed that the young lady offended her just like these brothers are running their mouth against awliya Allah. So the woman enters the young lady's body and talks through her.

Did Qur'an and hadith mentioned something like this?. Absolutely not. But does Qurana nd hadith gave clue about these things? Yes. Sheikh Akindele said he never experienced anything like this. He said he asked the witch "are you sire you are not a jinn?". She said she's fully human being and even describe who she is and where she lives to the Sheikh.Sheikh was dumbfounded. She said she would not live the lady alone regardless of how many times Sheikh recites Quran until the young lady apologizes to her and obey what she demanded of her. Sheikh Akindele said he pled to her to leave the young lady first and then she would apologize. And she did.

Did prophet or any sahaba mentioned something like this before?. No. So this proves the difference btw theoretical and spiritual/practical approach. Sheikh Akindele is a salafi and I barely see salafi said something like this. I believe his story bcus i grew up with stuff like this. But these brothers think if something in not mentioned in the kitab and Sunnah it doesnt exist. That sounds like atheism to me. It is their opinion.

Thanks for sharing more stories.

... But you didn't finish telling what later happen to the man you said was seeing jins in Canada.

The reason I asked was why didn't he go to shiekhs in Canada for ruqya or are there no shiekhs in Canada? why running back to Nigeria, or is there a special ruqya in Nigeria? His he still seeing jins after he ran back to Nigeria? Except the story is not real like that of Nollywood movies.

I know witches exist (never seen one tho ) and red eye but the funny thing is I have someone here who sees(suspect) all women living around him as witches hunting him, if he has stomach pain na witches, headache na witches, birds na wiches, cats na witches, cocroach na witches everything are witches work.
I see him as someone who's paranoid, I don't blame him he said he grew up where witches are many that's what he said.

Did shiekh Akindele video his exorcism?

tintingz:
Thanks for sharing more stories.

... But you didn't finish telling what later happen to the man you said was seeing jins in Canada.

The reason I asked was why didn't he go to shiekhs in Canada for ruqya or are there no shiekhs in Canada? why running back to Nigeria, or is there a special ruqya in Nigeria? His he still seeing jins after he ran back to Nigeria? Except the story is not real like that of Nollywood movies.

Probably he did not know any place. Someone who doesnt believe in Jinn would care less where ruqya place is. The Sheik did not finish the whole thing. He cut it bcus that was not the main subject. He was talking about someone else before jumping to these ones. Plus I dont think i watch the whole clips yet. It is parts.

I know witches exist (never seen one tho ) and red eye but the funny thing is I have someone here who sees(suspect) all women living around him as witches hunting him, if he has stomach pain na witches, headache na witches, birds na wiches, cats na witches, cocroach na witches everything are witches work.
I see him as someone who's paranoid, I don't blame him he said he grew up where witches are many that's what he said.

This one is paranoid. They probably taught him a lesson (punishment) before.

Did shiekh Akindele video his exorcism?

Yes. Not that he perform exorcism in the video. He narrates his experiences. Hopefully i can find the clips. I think it is titled "Abayo lowo alujonu ati Aje". Something like that.

Empiree:
Probably he did not know any place. Someone who doesnt believe in Jinn would care less where ruqya place is. The Sheik did not finish the whole thing. He cut it bcus that was not the main subject. He was talking about someone else before jumping to these ones. Plus I dont think i watch the whole clips yet. It is parts.

This one is paranoid. They probably taught him a lesson (punishment) before.

Yes. Not that he perform exorcism in the video. He narrates his experiences. Hopefully i can find the clips. I think it is titled "Abayo lowo alujonu ati Aje". Something like that.

Alright sir.

This was posted in wrong thread. I need title of the book

MrOlai:



According to reports, Sheik Ibrahim Niyas in one of his books said he has a special cloth that has 70,000 pockets. In each pocket, there are 70,000 sub-pockets. In each sub-pocket again, there are 70,000 sub-pockets, on and on like that! He said that on the Day of Judgement, he will carry 70,000 persons who believe in him in each of the sub-pockets in 70,000 times and fly them into paradise! .

Do you have reference for this?. What's the name of this particular book?. I will like to have the title for further research. I am yet to see anything on this. Kindly provide it please. Thanks

tintingz:
Thanks for sharing more stories.

... But you didn't finish telling what later happen to the man you said was seeing jins in Canada.

Here you go tintingz. This is the video. You speak and understand Yoruba right?. Watch it from 12:00 to 15:00 about the man who disbelieved in Jinn.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng-a6sNKA90

Empiree:
Here you go tintingz. This is the video. You speak and understand Yoruba right?. Watch it from 12:00 to 15:00 about the man who disbelieved in Jinn.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng-a6sNKA90

Watched the video. Thanks.

Want to ask some questions concerning the story but lemme not bother.

tintingz:
Watched the video. Thanks.

Want to ask some questions concerning the story but lemme not bother.

okay.

@mrolai, I'm still expecting reference book from you about claims you made against Sheik Niyas (ra). Will be glad to see the book for further review. Thanks

Empiree:
okay.

@mrolai, I'm still expecting reference book from you about claims you made against Sheik Niyas (ra). Will be glad to see the book for further review. Thanks

Funny Empiree. Its like you are asking an illiterate to write an essay.

Empiree:
okay.

@mrolai, I'm still expecting reference book from you about claims you made against Sheik Niyas (ra). Will be glad to see the book for further review. Thanks

For further review?

Are you the author?

Empiree:
okay.

@mrolai, I'm still expecting reference book from you about claims you made against Sheik Niyas (ra). Will be glad to see the book for further review. Thanks

Go and check Almuqamatul Hariri first.

If you can't find it there, then, ask one of your Mukadams who claim to have the knowledge of the unseen, maybe they will help us in using that knowledge to search for it!

If they can't still find it, then you can come back and we start searching for it all over again!

MrOlai:


Go and check Almuqamatul Hariri first.

If you can't find it there, then, ask one of your Mukadams who claim to have the knowledge of the unseen, maybe they will help us in using that knowledge to search for it!

If they can't still find it, then you can come back and we start searching for it all over again!

Thank you. He should go and search the Shirk Book. As their follower he is supposing to have it. Except if He is deceived headless follower.

MrOlai:


Go and check Almuqamatul Hariri first.

If you can't find it there, then, ask one of your Mukadams who claim to have the knowledge of the unseen, maybe they will help us in using that knowledge to search for it!

If they can't still find it, then you can come back and we start searching for it all over again!

who is the author of the book please?. If you are straight forward you would have quoted or post snapshot. Anyways, just tell me author of the book.

AlBaqir:


Funny Emp.iree. Its like you are asking an illiterate to write an essay.

he has no idea where I'm driving at.

FriendChoice:


I am not talking of kissing this that bla bla bla.
I said prostration. Wa'annal Masajida lillahi..

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rUjE2vtVyQ[/flash]

This happened in my area when i was still living Sabo.. i used to have the video on my phone back then.

As far as i know - been that i lived with them for over 5years, they don't go about prostrating to their clerics. The man prostrating in the video is actually a politician. One of the rich men in my hood back then. The man though shouldn't have allowed him to prostrate for him, since its obvious the man is an ignorant fellow.

Rilwayne001:


This happened in my area when i was still living Sabo.. i used to have this video on my phone back then

the dude joined charlatans or occult group. I don't blame him actually. I blame his thinking capacity

Rilwayne001:


This happened in my area when i was still living Sabo.. i used to have this video on my phone back then

Rilwan can relate 2 it. Eyewitness. The sheik is from north east, so you know him less. He has good knowledge of Islam, but when it comes to innovation he is expert.

Empiree:
the dude joined charlatans or occult group. I don't blame him actually. I blame his thinking capacity

I've edited my post.

FriendChoice:


Rilwan can relate 2 it. Eyewitness.

Lol i was banned by antispam bot when i tried to comment the other day. Although there are certain things they go about doing that i don't agree with: like the way they go about with the picture of Niyass. They are crazily in love with him that they hang is picture on their neck and outside the mosque. However they don't go about prostrating like the man did in the video.

FriendChoice:


Rilwan can relate 2 it. Eyewitness. The sheik is from north east, so you know him less. He has good knowledge of Islam, but when it comes to innovation he is expert.

No not the sheik. i really don't know much about him but he is revered keenly by my friends back then. I was referring to the man that prostrated. Actually the Sheik ought to have stopped him.

Rilwayne001:


Lol i was banned by antispam bot when i tried to comment the other day. Although there are certain things they go about doing that i don't agree with: like the way they go about with the picture of Niyass. They are crazily in love with him that they hang is picture on their neck and outside the mosque. However they don't go about prostrating like the man did in the video.

Yeah. I do listen to the Sufi sheik you saw in the video He is well educated and he understand Islam but when it comes 2 this category of Shirk..... Hmmm.

In kano 2015 during maulud, a Sufi sheik on stage publicly with microphone insult the prophet (SAW) because of Inyas.

Rilwayne001:


This happened in my area when i was still living Sabo.. i used to have the video on my phone back then.

As far as i know - been that i lived with them for over 5years, they don't go about prostrating to their clerics. The man prostrating in the video is actually a politician. One of the rich men in my hood back then. The man though shouldn't have allowed him to prostrate for him, since its obvious the man is an ignorant fellow.

thanks. See how you gave some details. Again, I have not watched this video to see what really happened. My gig is slow for now until I'm back on my pc. Thanks very much for details. I'm sorry, I don't trust salafi to pass info from other sect. So friendchoice is busted. Now I'm trying to bust the other two brothers. That's why I need the book he'said talking about

Rilwayne001:


Lol i was banned by antispam bot when i tried to comment the other day. Although there are certain things they go about doing that i don't agree with: like the way they go about with the picture of Niyass. They are crazily in love with him that they hang is picture on their neck and outside the mosque. However they don't go about prostrating like the man did in the video.

thanks again for this too. Clearly, it won't be the sheik niyas that taught them to hang his pic around their neck just like students of ibn taymiyah drank from his ritual water used to bath his body. He did not teach them to drink his ritual water. It's not even shirk to hang his picture around their neck. It's just silly. That's all. You making sense than these so called " sunnah talkers". And mumu gave them likes and shares without thinking

FriendChoice:


Yeah. I do listen to the Sufi sheik you saw in the video He is well educated and he understand Islam but when it comes 2 this category of Shirk..... Hmmm.

In kano 2015 during maulud, a Sufi sheik on state publicly with microphone insult the prophet (SAW) because of Inyas.

Well he's on his own, but those ones here don't go about insulting the prophet because of Inyass. However i used to think most of our northern brothers are sufis being the fact that they are much here than the IZALA..

FriendChoice:


Yeah. I do listen to the Sufi sheik you saw in the video He is well educated and he understand Islam but when it comes 2 this category of Shirk..... Hmmm.

In kano 2015 during maulud, a Sufi sheik on state publicly with microphone insult the prophet (SAW) because of Inyas.

since you are gradually being EXPOSED, your claim here is irrelevant and I'm not taking you serious anymore. You should be caned for lying.

Empiree:
thanks. See how you gave some details. Again, I have not watched this video to see what really happened. My gig is slow for now until I'm back on my pc. Thanks very much for details. I'm sorry, I don't trust salafi to pass info from other sect. So friendchoice is busted. Now I'm trying to bust the other two brothers. That's why I need the book he'said talking about

Yeah I was busted the man really prostrate to the sheik while the Sufi sheik comfortably enjoyed it.

I was also busted when Sufi sheik by the name publicly on stage with mic insult Prophet (SAW) during inyas maulud in kano.



Rilwayne001 I beg you to help him expose me more. This is the type of busting I enjoyed.

Empiree:
thanks again for this too. Clearly, it won't be the sheik niyas that taught them to hang his pic around their neck just like students of ibn taymiyah drank from his ritual water used to bath his body. He did not reach them to drink his ritual water. It's not even shirk to hang his picture around their neck. It's just silly. That's all. You making sense than these so called " sunnah talkers". And mumu gave them likes and shares without thinking

Lol! Just stating my own observations though as i don't really follow any sect.

Empiree:
since you are gradually being EXPOSED, your claim here is irrelevant and I'm not taking you serious anymore. You should be caned for lying.

Yeah I want to be exposed and caned more and more for lying.



http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/01/islamic-cleric-sentenced-to-death-for-blaspheming-prophet-mohammed/

FriendChoice:

Yeah I was busted the man really prostrate to the sheik while the Sufi sheik comfortably enjoyed it.
I was also busted when Sufi sheik by the name publicly on stage with mic insult Prophet (SAW) during inyas maulud in kano.
Rilwayne001 I beg you to help him expose me more. This is the type of busting I enjoyed.

Lol erhm'! I think what empiree is trying to say is that we shouldn't judge a whole group by the actions of the few misguided ones among them. Same way we cannot blame Islam for the actions of the misguided fanatics like Isis, bh and co.

You guys are both right though.

Rilwayne001:


Lol erhm'! I think what empiree is trying to say is that we shouldn't judge a whole group by the actions of the few misguided ones among them. Same way we cannot blame Islam for the actions of the misguided fanatics like Isis, bh and co.

You guys are both right though.

Yeah but in their doctrine called Almuqamatul Hariri, all these things are not offense. Because in the book some sufi sheiks are equal to God or even superior. So we are judging based on their book.

FriendChoice:


Yeah but in their doctrine called Almuqamatul Hariri, all these things are not offense. Because in the book some sufi sheiks are equal to God or even superior. So we are judging based on their book.

I think I've heard that word before but i don't really know what it means. Wish i was with my friends would've asked them.

Rilwayne001:


Lol! Just stating my own observations though as i don't really follow any sect.

I understand. My problem with him is, he wants to judge ALL sufis by whatever crazy group he joined. He definitely doesn't know anything about essence of sufism. I only deal with essence. I'm not in any sect. Essence is backed by kitab and Sunnah. If he understands the essence you would not be talking like this.

FriendChoice:


Yeah I want to be exposed and caned more and more for lying.



http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/01/islamic-cleric-sentenced-to-death-for-blaspheming-prophet-mohammed/

You don't make sense. Many ahadith already insulted the prophet. You should start from there. And you want to judge entire sufism by action of a group. Afalataqilun?