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Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by shoboy9: 10:06pm On Oct 18, 2016
Interesting.
@OP are you obeying God in a manner that suits you or do you honestly feel that that is the interpretation of that scripture? Is that you want to give what was meant for God to someone else? It is your RIGHT to do that as surely as it is your right to sin.
You may decide to do certain things because you feel God is worthy of your trust, respect and honour. Notice I said God and not man or any pastor. When someone sends a messanger to you, be wary how you relate to the messanger so it is misconstrued as a reply to the one who sent the messanger.
My advice is to keep your eyes focused on God. When you do, a lot becomes clearer. Whether you want to support the church of God for instance. If it is the church of God for another. And how you should support it. For example, the new testament says little about tithing because when you read the book of acts, you will find the apostles gave their ALL to support both the WORK and the BRETHREN! They gave everything and we know what happened to the stone hearted who kept a part of their wealth to themselves while pretending to love the church and the Lord.
May the lord guide you and His spirit be with you always.

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Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Samuel912(m): 10:06pm On Oct 18, 2016
You pay tithe to God through His ministers.... Don't bother about how or where the pastor spent it to and in some cases we have some agencies in the church like Elders monitoring how tithes comes in.... If you believe that its pastor spending your tithe then you'll no reward from God.... Tithe, offering, alms and first fruits are commandments from God
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by faston1(m): 10:07pm On Oct 18, 2016
Rebellion spirit is the same as witchcraft spirit bible says that and the same bible says suffer No witch to live.. That is judgement of God on witchcraft spirit and anyone rebel against the word of God..Satan knew this and Please in Jesus name be careful and be wise enough Not to against Word of God.,.God does not understand JOKE...
God does not need My Money Likewise God need Not your money .But we all needed God's blessing and blessing of God is not for free likewise is not for sell...
You pay tithes is Almighty over all including Satan.You don't pay tithes He is Almighty ....So what is your problem??.. WHATEVER IS TOO BIG FOR YOU TO GIVE GOD AND HIS KINGDOM WILL BE ALSO TOO BIG FOR GOD TO GIVE YOU..BUT TO ME I PAY MY TITHES AND MY OFFERING TO MY CHURCH
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Nobody: 10:07pm On Oct 18, 2016
All this tithe story is a lie. I've not been to any American church where they ask for tithe. Not one. Yet the citizens are living in a surplus economy. While Nigerians with all the tithe paying are dirt poor and going through the worst recession in years. You cant even ask an American to pay 10 percent of his income when he already has bills,school loans, car notes, mortgage etc waiting for him at month end. Imagine telling an American to give you "first fruit". His whole months salary oooooo. He will think you have gone mad.How come all Nigerian pastors are quiet about the economy situation?How come all of our seers some that go as far as predicting football matches,none of them saw this economic situation coming? Anyway me I carry my brain to church. Na una first fruiters sabi. Make one pastor use my sweat dey fly private jet. if I hear

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Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by seguno2: 10:10pm On Oct 18, 2016
Edwinmason:
well from my own understanding...God said give me my ten percent he didnt say give to the poor.....paying ur tithe and helping the poor are 2 different things entirely

Where is God located to receive your 10%?
God lives at which address to collect your 10%?
Abi your pastor is equal to God ni?

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Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by kennydotkom(m): 10:10pm On Oct 18, 2016
annunaki2:


It's actually greedy pastors that preach tithhing. There is absolutely no scripture in the bible that directs Christians to tithe of their income. Tithes as it is preached today is derived from twisting old testament scriptures to suit the greed of those preaching it.



But u can still claim some blessing in the old testament. ? Greedy un display here.

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Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Pidggin(f): 10:11pm On Oct 18, 2016
Sacluxpaint:


I concur with you, the early apostles from the books of acts to revelations never asked the brethren nor the church for 10%, why modern pastors in fancy suits demanding for it? Prove me if I am wrong. How can you emphasize on tithes than salvation? The billonaires in this world helping humanity are not paying tithes, why you? Who tithe epp?

It seems you are not reading your Bible, how can you make the above statement? The apostles were going round asking for money to help the Church in Jerusalem. Jesus Christ emphasized giving to men of God.

Read these scriptures: 1 Cor. 9:14, Gal. 6:6-10, Matt 10:41-42, 1 Cor 9:11, 2 Cor 8:7
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by seguno2: 10:13pm On Oct 18, 2016
12inches1:
All this tithe story is a lie. I've not been to any American church where they ask for tithe. Not one. Yet the citizens are living in a surplus economy. While Nigerians with all the tithe paying are dirt poor and going through the worst recession in years. You cant even ask an American to pay 10 percent of his income when he already has bills,school loans, car notes, mortgage etc waiting for him at month end. Imagine telling an American to give you "first fruit". His whole months salary oooooo. He will think you have gone mad.How come all Nigerian pastors are quiet about the economy situation?How come all of our seers some that go as far as predicting football matches,none of them saw this economic situation coming? Anyway me I carry my brain to church. Na una first fruiters sabi. Make one pastor use my sweat dey fly private jet. if I hear

Thanks.
I also don't know if the Chinese pay tithes yet they are growing in prosperity through hard work instead of waiting for manifold blessings from someone else who is hard working.
Na who be fool?

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Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by ojnnaco(m): 10:13pm On Oct 18, 2016
Edwinmason:
well from my own understanding...God said give me my ten percent he didnt say give to the poor.....paying ur tithe and helping the poor are 2 different things entirely
Where will you see God to give him the 10% ?
is it not through human being or is there place where its specified that u must pay it to ur pastor?

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Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by bxcode(m): 10:13pm On Oct 18, 2016
Tithing is biblical, but I get amused at some Christians that quotes Malachi 3 vs this and that without reading the whole chapter. God will not curse you becus you didn't pay your tithe, it's religion that has twisted that old testament law and made it whip of beating ignorant Christians into offering tithe out if fear of curse. All our curse has been placed on Jesus on the cross of Calvary. God is more intrested in the heart condition of the giver than the gift itself. If you are giving your tithe so as to pay God off as a Godfather, then you may as well keep your money becus it profits you nothing.
Give cheerfully whether as tithe or charity, anyone you choose to do, do it gratefully and out of reverence.

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Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Pidggin(f): 10:13pm On Oct 18, 2016
seguno2:


Where is God located to receive your 10%?
God lives at which address to collect your 10%?
Abi your pastor is equal to God ni?

If you are a Christian you can not ask such naive questions
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by kennydotkom(m): 10:14pm On Oct 18, 2016
Wilgrea7:


the new testament scripture u posted talks about people working in the church eating from things of the church... i have no problem with the offerings.. my problem is the tithe they are preaching as lies... tithe was for d Israelites and it was only in Canaan... so show me proof that i am an Israelite and we are in Canaan and the pastors are levites and money was tithed... then I'll believe



Bros it is when we dont hv money to pay that we. Start to question tithe and pastor. Pray for God to bless u. U wont giv excuse again
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Maximus85(m): 10:14pm On Oct 18, 2016
Theres no curse on you oooo. Not from God. It's only your pastor that will curse you. But no need to worry, he can't do you nothing. Ask him who he pays his own tithe to.

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Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Greenbullet(m): 10:14pm On Oct 18, 2016
drfk001:
Am a Christian, and am proud to pay my tithe to my church. whatever the church uses it to do is not my business, I paid my tithe to God and I look up to God for the blessings that follow and he has never failed. I rep St. Peter's Anglican Church, Ojo-Alaba
The answer is that tithing is not the New Testament
standard for giving. Perhaps more than any other
factor, giving reflects the condition of our hearts:
“Where your treasure is, there will your heart be
also” ( Matt. 6:21 ). You can fake some things, but
you can’t fake giving your money! You may get mad
at me, but I’m going to give it to you straight: If you
give ten percent or less of your income to the
Lord’s work, in most cases it reflects a lukewarm
heart toward God. I used to give ten percent and
thought I was doing fine. Then I made the mistake
of preaching on giving! I discovered that God’s
Word teaches that ...
We should not tithe because God wants us to give
generously, and tithing is the bare minimum.
Our God is a generous, giving God who so loved
the world that He gave that most precious gift, His
only begotten Son. “For you know the grace of our
Lord Jesus Christ, that though He was rich, yet for
your sake He became poor, that you through His
poverty might become rich” (2 Cor. 8:9 ). As God’s
people who are to be like Jesus, we are to be
generous givers.
The Bible teaches that God, who richly has supplied
us with all good things, wants us “to be generous
and ready to share” (1 Tim. 6:18 ).
now my question for you is ,did you do it as an obligation or out of the generosity of your heart.

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Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by DCTrendy(m): 10:16pm On Oct 18, 2016
CollinsWeGlobe:
Good Morning my fellow Nairalanders.

I believe my calling on earth is to assist anyone around me, in every little way I can. I do support beggars, support my friends, support my family members.

My question today is this "what if I use my Tithes and Offerings to help those in need"

Will God be angry with me? Will the cursed for not paying titles follow me?

Advise please, forgive me for the poor write up.



PHCN brought a bill of N10k to your house for the month of October.

U got to the ATM, withdrew the cash and headed to their office

then u notice an electric pole has falling on the way and pose a great danger for passer-by

As a good citizen, u call some guys and paid them 5k to get the pole outta the way.

When you arrived the PHCN office, you told them their money is 10k but u have helped them sort out a pole with 5k



Will they accept your story and your 5k for the full payment of the 10k?


My brother, pay your tithe, dont let us compound life for ourselves. Trust me, that tithe thing is so real.

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Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by askakim(m): 10:16pm On Oct 18, 2016
@op, i know this topic will cause argument.
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Nobody: 10:17pm On Oct 18, 2016
OP, we are the same oh!
Truth is, I am not thinking of paying anytime soon.

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Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by abahjohn1: 10:19pm On Oct 18, 2016
Guy if u have nt been paying ur tithe b4 try it for two months nd see if dea is different in ur income.some earn N10000,N20000 and still pay dea tithe most complains pple have iz dat how can i be earn such amount nd still pay tithe from it,such pple like dat if u count 4rm jan-dec d pple dat will bless dem with money or other material tinz will nt b much bcoz dey hav'nt given God his own.hw can God nw open d flood gate of heaven on them?any true believer will his or her tithe seriously no matter ur income.plz dont be deceive
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by seguno2: 10:20pm On Oct 18, 2016
Pidggin:
If you are a Christian you can not ask such naive questions

If you are a true, believing Christian, then you will ask questions about everything like the children whom Jesus said will inherit the kingdom.
Now, can you answer my questions from the scriptures?
Thanks.

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Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Greenbullet(m): 10:21pm On Oct 18, 2016
DCTrendy:




PHCN brought a bill of N10k to your house for the month of October.

U got to the ATM, withdrew the cash and headed to their office

then u notice an electric pole has falling on the way and pose a great danger for passer-by

As a good citizen, u call some guys and paid them 5k to get the pole outta the way.

When you arrived the PHCN office, you told them their money is 10k but u have helped them sort out a pole with 5k



Will they accept your story and accept your 5k for the full payment of the 10k?


My brother, pay your tithe, dont let us compound life for ourselves. Trsut me, that tithe thing is so real.
you are rather complicating issues . please do not use earthy circumstances to judge matters concerning Gods divinity.
My brother Gods word have been twisted ,those pastors have edited it to enable them squeeze their members of their hard earned money.only if you read the bible.

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Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Nobody: 10:22pm On Oct 18, 2016
I would advice u pay ur tithe to ur church and also gonna encourage u to give ur offering. Helping the poor and needy is a totally different thing.
Now lemme ask u these questions...
How do they pay the cleaners, drummers,
The instrumentalists and also power their gen? Forget about the flashy cars and other material things u see, all u need do is follow what's scriptural.
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Elmgnifico(m): 10:23pm On Oct 18, 2016
I think you are on the right track bro!! undecided esp nowadays where most churches has turn to real scam center for making money, at least you help people and feel good instead of getting cynical about the tithe issues

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Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Joe171(m): 10:23pm On Oct 18, 2016
at the end of all the advice and suggestions you get here follow your heart. watch the outcome of your thereafter action.
I cannot forget what I went through for the months I didn't pay my tithe.
I even tried starting a business but it failed, the phone bought got spoilt after a few weeks and that happened like three times. don't mind these folks saying pastors eat tithes. follow scriptural instructions. your tithe is from your income and it is a specific amount from your income unlike alms or helps that you render to people.
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by drfk001(m): 10:24pm On Oct 18, 2016
Greenbullet:

The answer is that tithing is not the New Testament
standard for giving. Perhaps more than any other
factor, giving reflects the condition of our hearts:
“Where your treasure is, there will your heart be
also” ( Matt. 6:21 ). You can fake some things, but
you can’t fake giving your money! You may get mad
at me, but I’m going to give it to you straight: If you
give ten percent or less of your income to the
Lord’s work, in most cases it reflects a lukewarm
heart toward God. I used to give ten percent and
thought I was doing fine. Then I made the mistake
of preaching on giving! I discovered that God’s
Word teaches that ...
We should not tithe because God wants us to give
generously, and tithing is the bare minimum.
Our God is a generous, giving God who so loved
the world that He gave that most precious gift, His
only begotten Son. “For you know the grace of our
Lord Jesus Christ, that though He was rich, yet for
your sake He became poor, that you through His
poverty might become rich” (2 Cor. 8:9 ). As God’s
people who are to be like Jesus, we are to be
generous givers.
The Bible teaches that God, who richly has supplied
us with all good things, wants us “to be generous
and ready to share” (1 Tim. 6:18 ).
now my question for you is ,did you do it as an obligation or out of the generosity of your heart.
My friend there is no reason for me to be mad at you, it's a civil discussion provided no one is throwing insults.
To the point you raised, I actually feel challenged by your statement concerning tithe being the minimum, Guess I have to upgrade but according to the measure of grace given to me, I personally still believe in the special offering called "Tithe". However, am grateful for the challenge to do more in giving both in church and to people while still maintaining my tithe. God bless
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Krismart(m): 10:24pm On Oct 18, 2016
MrPRevailer:


But it makes you an enemy of God. God is serious about it. It's mostly greedy people that give excuses like "my pastor is eating my tithe".
U must either be a pastor or his son.

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Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by seguno2: 10:25pm On Oct 18, 2016
kennydotkom:

Bros it is when we dont hv money to pay that we. Start to question tithe and pastor. Pray for God to bless u. U wont giv excuse again

Is Dangote not blessed?
Abeg na which pastor dey collect im 10%?
Thanks

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Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Dantee005(m): 10:26pm On Oct 18, 2016
Lol...edakun pls epp me....
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by greatjoey: 10:27pm On Oct 18, 2016
[quote author=CollinsWeGlobe post=50244797]Good Morning my fellow Nairalanders.

I believe my calling on earth is to assist anyone around me, in every little way I can. I do support beggars, support my friends, support my family members.

My question today is this "what if I use my Tithes and Offerings to help those in need"

[b]Will God be angry with me? Will the cursed
Advise please, forgive me for the poor write up.[/quote

This remains a murky topic in our today's Christianity. Searching through the Bible, there is no singular verse that urges us to pay tithe to a church. Also, no verse in the bible where any individual paid a tithe to the church. Abraham gave his to Melchizedek the prince. In Malachi, the early Christians were urged to bring one tenth of their farm harvests to the store house. The question here is that, is a store house same as a church. Invariably, the answer is NO. Again, Jesus once admonished the Pharisees and said: 'you hypocrites, you are mindful of doing the lesser thing by tithing, but the major thing.........You don't do'. From this, it is evident that tithing is seen as insignifant. Tithes in the past were meant to be distributed to the destitudes. But today, it is for the general overseers's use..Through tithing, expensive schools are built and more than 98% of the tithers cannot sponsor their wards in such institutions but only politicians and the affluent in the society. Is that the heart of God when He gave that as a law in the old? In the past, it was restricted to farm produce. Conclusively, ask God for His leading. Tithing was part of the law of the old many which are no more observed as a result of the coming of Jesus Christ. Many churches across the world do not observe tithe. Would you say they are hell bound? Thank you. Offerings and arms giving to the needy are necessary and sacrosant.Thank you.

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Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by stambouli: 10:28pm On Oct 18, 2016
Can you kindly explain what you mean by first fruit
Samuel912:
You pay tithe to God through His ministers.... Don't bother about how or where the pastor spent it to and in some cases we have some agencies in the church like Elders monitoring how tithes comes in.... If you believe that its pastor spending your tithe then you'll no reward from God.... Tithe, offering, alms and first fruits are commandments from God
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Greenbullet(m): 10:29pm On Oct 18, 2016
drfk001:

My friend there is no reason for me to be mad at you, it's a civil discussion provided no one is throwing insults.
To the point you raised, I actually feel challenged by your statement concerning tithe being the minimum, Guess I have to upgrade but according to the measure of grace given to me, I personally still believe in the special offering called "Tithe". However, am grateful for the challenge to do more in giving both in church and to people while still maintaining my tithe. God bless
there is no problem if you wish to continue but the truth must be said.
Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by Twist4u: 10:29pm On Oct 18, 2016
Op fear not. U are trading on d right part. Matt 25 Vs 35-45 (New testament: new ways) says it as it is from Jesus directly. Also checkout Mathew 23 VS 23; Wow on to u scribes n pharisees, hypocrites! For u pay TiTHE in mint n anise n Cummin and have ommitted the weightier matters of the law, judgement, mercy n faith: these u ought to have done and not to leave the others undone. Many pastors turn blind eyes to this facts n Overtly concentrate on malachi;3 vs 10.(old testament: old ways).peace

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Re: I Don't Pay Tithes And Offerings But I Give To Anyone In Need. Am I Wrong? by yinkslinks(m): 10:32pm On Oct 18, 2016
Where u there when God said it? Helping the needy is better than giving it to a pastor who will use to enrich himself. Does the church swallow 10%? Bro no make me vex with u now oo
Edwinmason:
well from my own understanding...God said give me my ten percent he didnt say give to the poor.....paying ur tithe and helping the poor are 2 different things entirely

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