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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by RooRuudRonSaha(m): 10:58am On Nov 06, 2016
slimghost:
What kind of annoying fans do we have here please? already calling for the Gaffer's head? common, its just 3 months into his reign and I really think his gameplay/pattern has not been that bad. We have been out of luck and Ibra has been horrible too.
Please let's give Jose time because I am damn sure he will be a success.
did u give david moyes and lvg the same benefit of doubt. Mourinho wont achieve nada with man u.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by RooRuudRonSaha(m): 11:02am On Nov 06, 2016
Oasis007:
[b]HOW SIR ALEX WAS APPOINTED 30 YEARS AGO

Thirty years ago today (Sunday), Manchester United confirmed the name of the club's new manager - Alex Ferguson, the firebrand boss who had won the European Cup Winners' Cup and every major trophy in Scotland with Aberdeen. Here's the story of how Martin Edwards, then the Reds' chairman, engineered arguably the most pivotal appointment in the history of British football...


In the autumn of 1986, Manchester United were languishing in the top flight’s relegation zone - a year after being apparent shoo-ins for the league title. With the club’s demands of excellence scarcely realised since Sir Matt Busby’s abdication, the board of directors recognised the time for change had again arrived.

THE END OF RON'S REIGN


In five years at the helm, manager Ron Atkinson had won two FA Cups and had never finished below fourth in the league, but it was Big Ron’s inability to top second spot which proved his undoing.

"Manchester United is a club with exceptionally high standards," stated then-chairman Martin Edwards, now the Reds’ honourary life president, in an interview in 2011.

"Ron had been with us five seasons and had done reasonably well, but it started to go wrong the season before we decided to make the change. After the game at Southampton I think we were 21st in the league, so we had a meeting on the plane on the way back to Manchester and we all decided it was the right thing to do at the time.

“It was very difficult to tell Ron, because he hadn’t been a failure and he was very enthusiastic, and it’s never an easy job telling a manager that you want him to leave. That bit was difficult, but making the actual decision for the right reasons wasn’t difficult.”

The previous campaign had started with 10 straight league wins, but had sputtered out long before the Reds juddered over the line in fourth place. Understandably, the early months of the 1986/87 season had been soundtracked by incremental discontent on the terraces, while Atkinson was repeatedly subjected to questions about his future in the media.

NAMES IN THE FRAME


The list of potential replacements had been drawn up long before the axe fell. The Guardian’s Frank Keating named the contenders as Brian Clough, Howard Kendall, Don Howe and even Bryan Robson in a player-manager capacity. Others had Terry Venables as the favourite. For the board, however, one figure had long since been elevated above the rest.

“There might have been a few names mentioned – probably just whoever was popular at the time – but none of them was seriously considered,” recalled Edwards. “It was a unanimous decision from the board to go for Alex Ferguson. He was absolutely the preferred choice of all of us.

“We’d first met him when we signed Gordon Strachan from Aberdeen. Gordon had already signed a contract with Cologne and we really wanted to extricate him from that deal, so that’s when Alex came in. He was batting on Manchester United’s side, probably because he wanted him to come to United but also because the move would get Aberdeen more money if he did. So he was very helpful to us and that’s when I first got to know him.

“We knew how well he’d done in overtaking Glasgow Rangers and Celtic and he’d won the Cup Winners’ Cup in 1983 against the mighty Real Madrid, so his pedigree was there. When we actually met him and realised what a firebrand he was and saw the way he conducted himself, that really just confirmed how impressive he was.”

MAKING THE MOVE


With the target agreed, United’s kingmakers nevertheless had to tread carefully. There was no guarantee that Ferguson would either want or be allowed to leave Pittodrie, especially in the midst of such spectacular and sustained feather-ruffling of Glasgow’s Old Firm.

“We didn’t want to end up with egg on our face,” admitted Edwards. “We decided we’d better find out if Alex was willing to join us, so one of our directors, Mike Edelson, rang Aberdeen’s switchboard and put on a Scottish accent, used an assumed name [that of Alan Gordon, Gordon Strachan’s accountant] and asked to be put through to Alex Ferguson. Alex came on the phone, Mike told him I would like a word with him and he put me through.

"We arranged to see Alex that evening – Bonfire Night - up in Scotland and it was the usual cloak and dagger thing: myself, Mike, Bobby [Charlton] and Maurice [Watkins] met him at a petrol station, he drove us round to his sister-in-law’s house and we all met him. It just confirmed that he was the one that we wanted."

DONALD TRIES A TRUMP CARD

Edwards continued: "What we really wanted to know from Alex was if his chairman at Aberdeen, Dick Donald, would allow him to leave. Alex made it quite plain that he wanted to join us, and he also said that he had an agreement with his chairman that he could leave if United came in. Alex had actually said that he wanted something in his contract that he could join a big team, and Dick Donald had said: ‘You’re only leaving if Manchester United come in’. That wasn’t difficult really. So I rang Dick Donald the next day and he agreed to see me."

Donald made a last-ditch bid to keep his man, with the staggering gesture of offering Sir Alex ownership of Aberdeen FC but to no avail. Compensation was quickly agreed and permission was granted for talks to begin. They didn’t take long. As Sir Alex later admitted in his autobiography, Managing My Life: "To a great extent I was a captive candidate, and happy to be so."

REDS IN NEED OF REPAIR


Two days after his appointment as United manager, Sir Alex watched on as his new charges were dealt a chastening 2-0 defeat at Oxford United; a result which laid bare the poor fitness levels of the squad he had been bequeathed. Further unsettled by confirmation that a drinking culture had been established within the club, the Scot assembled his players in the gym at The Cliff.

"I made it plain that I meant to put an end to Manchester United’s reputation of being almost as much of a social club as a football club," he wrote in his book. "I told them that they would have to change their ways because I certainly wasn’t going to change mine."

Further concerns were raised about the physical strength of the existing squad, and a short-sightedness which had gradually decayed the club's youth and scouting systems. By the time Queens Park Rangers arrived at Old Trafford for Sir Alex's home bow, he used his first column in United Review, the official match programme, to spell out the enormity of his task, while also conveying a stony determination to realise it.

MISSION STATEMENT

"Taking over a club of Manchester United's magnitude is an awesome task," was Sir Alex's opening gambit in the programme. The sobering clarity continued: "I am not really interested in what has happened here in the past. I don't mean any disrespect to the great achievements of Manchester United over the years. It's simply that there is now only one way to go, and that is forward. The aim at this club must clearly be to win the championship. That is the only real way to lay the ghosts of the past.

"There always has to be a starting point, and I see the league championship as the basis for Manchester United's future. Success has a snowball effect as I found at Aberdeen… it’s not something that can be built overnight, and it could take a few months before I can create a true relationship with the players. But that is what I shall work towards and I am going to love every minute of it here."
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The Mission Statement so similar to Jose Mourinho's Mission Statement too! We need to trust Jose, have confidence in him, coz he's definitely not a Loser!

We ain't appreciating JM at the moment because we really do not understand the extent of Damages Moyes and LVG had respectively incurred on the Team.

Let's be honest, we ain't playing "boring Games" nor "parking the Bus", rather pure attacking football - just unfortunate with Goals scoring at the moment.

United is a Work in Progress - and with time we gonna bounce back and take over the EPL Throne from the Regent.



which damage did the aforementioned coaches cause. You a mourinho fanboy. United have no time for experiments, same thing you guys were against giggs. United wont make top 4(mark my words).
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 11:05am On Nov 06, 2016
Oasis007:


grin

I think only Rugby Fans can testify to what JM achieved at Porto, Chelsea as well as Inter Milan?!

Eph12 and Jam talks be like................!!!

eph12:

Mata is supposed to have the brightest technique among our attacking players yes? Well he gets subbed first when things are not working. That's even when he gets the chance to play especially against tougher opponents.
What Kloop was able to achieve at Dortmund everyone following football can testify. Dortmund is the only top team in the world that constantly sells its best players every season and still remain relevant. A Guardiola or Mourinho cannot survive that.
I never said Kloop is better than Mourinho, I only said I prefer his style of play to Mourinho. They both have success story but they have gone about it differently.

Pay close attention to the bolded undecided

In terms of achievement Kloop does not even have half of what Mourinho has so why should I say Kloop is better? I am talking about style tactics that could stand the test of time and outlast you.

Even Chelsea fans don't like Mourinho anymore so why should I?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 11:11am On Nov 06, 2016
eph12:




Pay close attention to the bolded undecided

In terms of achievement Kloop does not even have half of what Mourinho has so why should I say Kloop is better? I am talking about style tactics that could stand the test of time and outlast you.

Even Chelsea fans don't like Mourinho anymore so why should I?

Chelsea fans don't like Mourinho anymore because they forget things easily.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 11:12am On Nov 06, 2016
Oasis007:



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The Mission Statement so similar to Jose Mourinho's Mission Statement too! We need to trust Jose, have confidence in him, coz he's definitely not a Loser!

We ain't appreciating JM at the moment because we really do not understand the extent of Damages Moyes and LVG had respectively incurred on the Team.

Let's be honest, we ain't playing "boring Games" nor "parking the Bus", rather pure attacking football - just unfortunate with Goals scoring at the moment.

United is a Work in Progress - and with time we gonna bounce back and take over the EPL Throne from the Regent.

[/b]

If we wanted work in progress we would have asked LVG to stay. You don't spend this much at once and ask for a year. You want work in progress? Buy players 20-30 million and train them for the future. You want work in progress? Look at your reserve and younger players.

This is annoying.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 11:14am On Nov 06, 2016
eph12:




Pay close attention to the bolded undecided

In terms of achievement Kloop does not even have half of what Mourinho has so why should I say Kloop is better? I am talking about style tactics that could stand the test of time and outlast you.

Even Chelsea fans don't like Mourinho anymore so why should I?

grin

Can you tell us JM style of play?!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 11:15am On Nov 06, 2016
eph12:

If we wanted work in progress we would have asked LVG to stay. You don't spend this much at once and ask for a year. You want work in progress? Buy players 20-30 million and train them for the future. You want work in progress? Look at your reserve and younger players.

This is annoying.

grin

Noted!!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 11:18am On Nov 06, 2016
RooRuudRonSaha:
which damage did the aforementioned coaches cause. You a mourinho fanboy. United have no time for experiments, same thing you guys were against giggs. United wont make top 4(mark my words).

grin

The Damages they caused?! LOL! I guess it's not hidden to anyone except you intentionally pay blind attention to it!

As for the bold Part..... Noted!!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 11:22am On Nov 06, 2016
Oasis007:


grin

Can you tell us JM style of play?!

I DO NOT KNOW!
grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by RooRuudRonSaha(m): 11:44am On Nov 06, 2016
Oasis007:


grin

The Damages they caused?! LOL! I guess it's not hidden to anyone except you intentionally pay blind attention to it!

As for the bold Part..... Noted!!!
after the amount he spent, so van gaal is still selecting players for him, giving him his tactics. the same players beat city,liverpool,arsenal,tottenham last season. Jose is a failure in united, no amount of propaganda can save him.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by UniqueGem(m): 11:47am On Nov 06, 2016
RooRuudRonSaha:
after the amount he spent, so van gaal is still selecting players for him, giving him his tactics. the same players beat city,liverpool,arsenal,tottenham last season. Jose is a failure in united, no amount of propaganda can save him.
would be great watching you scoop your own vomit.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 11:56am On Nov 06, 2016
RooRuudRonSaha:
after the amount he spent, so van gaal is still selecting players for him, giving him his tactics. the same players beat city,liverpool,arsenal,tottenham last season. Jose is a failure in united, no amount of propaganda can save him.

grin

I pray you wouldn't de-activate your Moniker very soon!

Don't bother to ask me why?!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 11:57am On Nov 06, 2016
eph12:


I DO NOT KNOW!
grin grin grin

grin

Ephisne...... Ephizzy!!!! You always make me smile - thanks for that!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 12:27pm On Nov 06, 2016
weedtaker:
rashford is out of form too, same as martial and ibra, mhikitaryan is not doing well atm, we're struggling bcus our attack is not doing that good, can't even put in a decent cross. and saying rashford playing the strikers role would solve our scoring problem is quite sily, ibra despite missing clear cut chances still offers more, something rashford won't be able to do for us. not to forget that we're not that bad as some guys here are making us to be, against stoke and Burnley we were unlucky, same thing happened to city against boro and everton. just give the boss time to sort out dis mess, dats all.

Rashford has been played out of position. He is a striker and should be played there mostly. GE puts in a good shift when played on the wings but we would rather have him play as a striker.

He should be playing 25-30 mins after subbing Ibra who needs to be managed because of his age.

It's unfair saying Rasford is out of form when he has been shunted almost everywhere in attack. Mkhi has had injury problems which has affected his fitness and form and Mata has shown what he can do if consistently played as a 10.

I also believe Mourinho will sort things out.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 12:35pm On Nov 06, 2016
I know it's not my business but I saw no caveat hence ama shook my mouth.

That said, Y'all finding excuses upandan for ur Lord MOU are all bloody hypocrites. Mou failed woefully in his last job and currently has the worst start which is yet to come to an end when compared with Moyes and LVG yet u believe he needs more time and should be cut some slack but Moyes in particular didn't need more time despite not spending up to what ur Lord has spent.

U are bloody fanatics shiii is currently playing in our political realm as we speak. Y'all will soon run out of excuses.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by UniqueGem(m): 12:56pm On Nov 06, 2016
kokaneprodigy:
I know it's not my business but I saw no caveat hence ama shook my mouth.

That said, Y'all finding excuses upandan for ur Lord MOU are all bloody hypocrites. Mou failed woefully in his last job and currently has the worst start which is yet to come to an end when compared with Moyes and LVG yet u believe he needs more time and should be cut some slack but Moyes in particular didn't need more time despite not spending up to what ur Lord has spent.

U are bloody fanatics shiii is currently playing in our political realm as we speak. Y'all will soon run out of excuses.
Failed woefully? What's your definition of woefully?
1 Is it picking up a team, shaping them in a year and then winning The league trophy the next.
OR
2 Trying to win the league trophy with a particular team for the past 12years and failing to.

Which of the two is woeful?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 1:05pm On Nov 06, 2016
kokaneprodigy:
[s]I know it's not my business but I saw no caveat hence ama shook my mouth.

That said, Y'all finding excuses upandan for ur Lord MOU are all bloody hypocrites. Mou failed woefully in his last job and currently has the worst start which is yet to come to an end when compared with Moyes and LVG yet u believe he needs more time and should be cut some slack but Moyes in particular didn't need more time despite not spending up to what ur Lord has spent.

U are bloody fanatics shiii is currently playing in our political realm as we speak. Y'all will soon run out of excuses.[/s]
Wenger will soon leave. Goan hire Moyes so you can give him time & stop disturbing people here.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 1:08pm On Nov 06, 2016
UniqueGem:
Failed woefully? What's your definition of woefully?
1 Is it picking up a team, shaping them in a year and then winning The league trophy the next.
OR
2 Trying to win the league trophy with a particular team for the past 12years and failing to.

Which of the two is woeful?
Wetin we dey talk Wetin u dey talk, this is the fanaticism we talking about. Is it until u win a spot in the championship b4 u see the light?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by UniqueGem(m): 1:19pm On Nov 06, 2016
kokaneprodigy:

Wetin we dey talk Wetin u dey talk, this is the fanaticism we talking about. Is it until u win a spot in the championship b4 u see the light?
Baba take back seat. What makes you certain Mou will relegate United have you seen him relegate a team? I've seen Mou pick teams from nothing and shape them into world beaters; hence my believe in him. I've seen Wenger try countless times to win the UCL and failed hence my believe that arsenal will never taste the UCL as long as Wenger remains in charge because he does the same thing expecting diff result. Even Leicester came from the championship to win the league under his nose. Because you beat ludo in UCL group stage, you suddenly think your credentials have become so bogus as to apply for the position of special adviser for Man United.
Guy once again, take back seat.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 1:44pm On Nov 06, 2016
dis derby na fire!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 1:45pm On Nov 06, 2016
dat header though grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 1:47pm On Nov 06, 2016
What a goal! Goal of the season grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 1:52pm On Nov 06, 2016
Daft trolls everywhere who cant understand the context behind a simple sentence.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MrTA(m): 1:54pm On Nov 06, 2016
kokaneprodigy:

Wetin we dey talk Wetin u dey talk, this is the fanaticism we talking about. Is it until u win a spot in the championship b4 u see the light?
Just say you want to troll as usual and we'll accept the garbage you're spewing. Don't come and start trying some high and mighty nonsense you clearly have no clue about.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 2:22pm On Nov 06, 2016
"We need to win, we have to win. It’s always difficult to play at Swansea but we will try our best."


- Juan Mata
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 2:25pm On Nov 06, 2016
kokaneprodigy:

Wetin we dey talk Wetin u dey talk, this is the fanaticism we talking about. Is it until u win a spot in the championship b4 u see the light?

undecided

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 2:27pm On Nov 06, 2016
“My team-mates tell me that it’s difficult to play away against Swansea. Every match is difficult, and obviously it will be harder without the manager [who will be in the stands this afternoon].”


- Zlatan Ibrahimovic
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 3:03pm On Nov 06, 2016
Make them play Jones if Smalling's not available
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by 21Savagw: 3:05pm On Nov 06, 2016
WHEN Mourinho does get fired, I think we need a young manager as it will be near impossible getting an established one.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by olabode89(m): 3:06pm On Nov 06, 2016
SailorXY:
Make them play Jones

Them play am

Starting 11

De gea, Young, Jones, Rojo, Darmian, Carrick, Fellaini, Mata, Pogba, Rooney, Zlatan

Subs: Romero, Blind, Mensah, Lingard, Morgan S., Martial, Rashford.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by 21Savagw: 3:07pm On Nov 06, 2016
De gea in goal and this lineup...*Insert Wizkid Ojuelegba meme*

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AdisaOwala: 3:09pm On Nov 06, 2016
Jones? Fellaini / Carrick combo?

grin grin

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