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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 3:01pm On Nov 08, 2016 |
1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. The opposite of 'confusion' is 'order'. @brocab, Johnw74( I know you guys are in order). Arrange these words in increasing and decreasing order: Woman, christ, man, God. I am asking you this question because the same person that wrote 1 Corinthians 14:33 wrote 1 Corinthians 11:3. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 10:49pm On Nov 08, 2016 |
Am I hearing this right? Dolphinheart doesn't know who his god is? johnw74: 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 11:01pm On Nov 08, 2016 |
So before we answer your questions tell us-who you are, {If you are from the Watchtower organisation-how long have you served, and who do you serve-Name the elders by names?} Knowing who you are. would make life a little easier for us, to explain the truth about the word of God to you. {1 Corinthians 14:33} For God is not the author of confusion. the Lord is talking about His Saints-With your honesty-we will see if this scripture has anything to do with you.. achorladey: 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 11:16pm On Nov 08, 2016 |
achorladey: duh, you false jw supporter, don't seriously think you are my teacher do you? let me give you an assignment, what word best suits those who call themselves Jehovah's witnesses but are not and do lie, and are the church of satan: antichrists, false prophets, changers of God's word, sect, church of satan etc. etc. answer below they all suit. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 12:27am On Nov 09, 2016 |
Interesting.. Innocent77: 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 12:30am On Nov 09, 2016 |
Are you not Catholic? And yet you stand up against your own beliefs-for some other organisation that don't accept religion-the way you do. Satan's final deception. achorladey: 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 11:26am On Nov 09, 2016 |
@Johnw74. I am not your teacher, you are correct on that. Concerning your assignment. I would love to pick Antichrist, but the JWs still do not meet the requirements of being an Antichrist as defined in 1 John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. Except you(Johnw74) show me other proof. From the scriptures above they are not Antichrist since the line of this discussion so far is purely based on the fact that the JWs don't recognise Jesus as the Almighty God. Now answer my questions. Have answered yours. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 12:07pm On Nov 09, 2016 |
@Brocab you expect me to disclose my details to you. Please, when has my details become the key to unlocking the sacred secret of God and the key to identify Jesus as the Almighty God? @brocab you don't need it. 2 Corinthians 10:4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ. This is what you need @BroCab. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 12:36pm On Nov 09, 2016 |
solite3:Ithe is not an excuse, so many times did I have to take time to filter your posts, to remove my own words from your post, so many times did I have to quote you , only to find a blank page when I click on quote, I do not want to go through that stress again , after advising you so many times to solve and correct the way you post. I never said the scripture contradicts itself stop lying!read, read statements properly and understand it, I don't see where I accused you about scripture contradiction in that post, I asked you a simple question, I wonder when questions turned to lies again. It is you that said there are other gods besides Jehovah, when he said there is no one like him.It is not me that identified other gods, it's the scriptures, do you want me to show you again? Yes there is no God like Jehovah! Did i refuse to explain? Here is the real explanation.1. provide the source of these your explanation , because it does not correspond with the general meaning of god! 2. I do not like personaly formulated definitions, only people who want to protect their lies do so 3. its good that you understand that others apart from Jehovah are called gods. now the issue is : are they gods or they are not gods! , the scripture say they are god's 1 Corinthians 8:5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)gods that exist in this world in heaven? do you understand your statement at all? good that you call them gods, just like the scripture did! Paul in the next verse said but to us there is one God even the Father.Good that you know that the one god is the father, he is the one Jesus describes as our God, as his God, the head of Jesus! That god(God of Jesus) is Jehovah the almighty who exalted Jesus, called Jesus his heir, gave him a name and sat him at his right hand! Galatians 4:8 Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.Good that you know that some are by nature gods while some are not gods by nature Jehovah said he is the only God there is no god besides him although other people may have other gods but israel had only one God, christians has only one God who is the true God.1. who is the god of this world : King James Version 2Co 4:4In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. 2. who are the gods that God has taken his place in the mist of? English Standard Version God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment: 3. why is Jehovah the most high god if there are no other gods he is higher than? the bible also said that the gods of the heathen are idols meaning vanity.yes we know that, and Jehovah does not sit in their midst! Psalms 96:5 For all the gods of the nations are idols: but the LORD made the heavens.Is the God of this world an idol? If Jesus has the nature of the true God does that not make Jesus the true God?No! you have same nature with your father, it does not make you your father or equal to your father! YOU ARE TWO DIFFERENT BEING, JESUS SITS AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD, HE IS NOT THE GOD HE IS SITTING AT THE RIGHT HAND OF. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 12:36pm On Nov 09, 2016 |
@Brocab, @Johnw74 You belong to churches of the saints and yet you still need clue to ascertain who am I. When topical issues are discussed always stay in line. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 12:38pm On Nov 09, 2016 |
brocab: YOU COULD NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION, ALWAYS TRYING TO USE MUNDANE ISSUES TO COVER IT UP! [b]YOU ARE A LIAR, IS THE TETRAMAGRAM THAT IS ACCEPTED AS GODS NAME, THAT IS TRANSLATED AS JEHOVAH PRESENT IN THAT VERSE OR NOT? If you wanto to lie, lie better lie, don't fomulate falsehood that can be easily debunked . I asked you a question about the kjv, you could not respond. popularity does not mean truth. narrow is the way and few are the ones finding it! 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 12:49pm On Nov 09, 2016 |
johnw74:what subject have I changed , have I deviated from showing you with proof that jehovah is the name of God ? have I deviated from showing you with proof that Jehovah does not mean God. I did not have to alter or add to the proof, I did not have to redefine their explanations to arrive at an alternate explanation. They told you the truth, Jehovah is the name of God, you saw the truth in the scriptures, Jehovah said " that is my name!. You checked your own dictionary, it tells you that Jehovah is the name of the Jews! yet you do not belief, you prefer to alter it without proof that they said " Jehovah is the the name for God" cus you do not know the difference between "of" and "for". 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 12:50pm On Nov 09, 2016 |
Yes I do expect you to disclose your details-isn't that what you are expecting me to do, by asking all the questions about how much I know about God? Your details do become a key the to any knowledge concerning the Word of God, I would like to know who I am dealing with. Any person can copy down the scriptures-and claim they are Christians, and of course past them on to others-but the truth is, "do you" honestly believe in them? Already you have made a judgment against me, claiming this is what I need, well you are so Wrong-I don't just need {1 Corinthians 10:4-5} I need them all, and without the help from you, the Lord had given me all. I can read the scriptures when I want-and I will be taught by my teacher the Lord had given me. My teacher is the Holy Spirit, who is yours that you fill you can past judgment on another. achorladey: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 12:54pm On Nov 09, 2016 |
brocab: OH MY! So the word "jehovah is present in the bible that you use, you say it's a wrong word, yet you use that bible! habA! why use a bible that inserted a silly word ? A beg plus tell me, what is the Hebrew word that they translitered to jehovah? how many times does that word occur in your bible? see how your lies is unravelling!, so the word jehovah is present in your bible! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 1:28pm On Nov 09, 2016 |
johnw74:Look at your own words : You say Jehovah means the name of God but Jehovah doesn't mean God, ha ha Did I ever say the above? NOOOOO! SO I BEG YOU, STOP LYING AGAINST ME! the adjective "self existent" describes Jehovah,Yes Jehovah is God , a self existent God, but Jehovah does not mean God, Jehovah is the name of God, self existent does not mean God! Jehovah means the self existentGive me one example of where God said my name is so so and so! duh, we know Jehovah means Jewish national name of GodGood, you are getting it small small, notice that your source nor any other source taught you that Jehovah means God. neither have you seen it anywhere that God means Jehovah. One who formulates his own laws and teachings will have a had time learning! Ha ha, the blind as a bat one accuses of confusion I know you will start abusive speech, after showing you what the kjv said about Jehovah! look again , my God is different from yours , look at my God below : King James Version Joh 20:17Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. I have one God, the father , and not " one God, the spirit son and father!" Col 1:3 We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you, King James Version 1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 1:36pm On Nov 09, 2016 |
johnw74:that was a typo error and it has been modified, you have again started this your dubious method of erasing parts of a post you are responding to! only dubious people do such 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:24pm On Nov 09, 2016 |
Didn't you hear me correctly-the creator's name appears In Modern KJV as Jehovah, 7 Times-some say 4 times in the 1611 "Iehovah". I know you can't seem to get it through your head but God has many different names-in different languages-and you believe Jehovah is the only name that's given to God. Well you are wrong once again. Let's look up Wikipedia and let it tell us where and how the name Jehovah came into place-but first-what you are not understanding is Jehovah's name didn't carry on through the hole bible.? {7 times only} And it really doesn't make sense-why only 7 times-why not the hole bible? And another thing Dolphinheart if Jehovah is God's name then why is Jehovah the LORD's name too? Iehovah El, Elohim, I Am, Savour, Shepherd, Lord, and it keeps on going-He said to Moses "I Am "That I Am" in this case God can be anyone-who He pleases to be-and I still believe Jehovah sounds silly-because Jehovah was only written no-more then 7 times in the hole KJV. And yet the Names LORD Lord and God is written throughout. The Wikipedia say's The proper name in Hebrew for God is YHWH--The consensus among scholars is that the historical vocalization of the telegrammaton at the time of the redaction of the Torah {6th century BCE} is most likely Yahweh. The historical vocalization was lost because in {Second Temple Judaism} During the 3rd and 2 Centuries BCE. the pronunciation of the telegrammaton came to be avoided being substituted with {Adonai} "My Lord" The Hebrew Vowel points of {Adonai} were added to the telegrammaton by the Masoretes and the resulting form was transliterated around the 12 century as Yahweh. The derive forms Iehovah-Jehovah first appeared in the 16th century. Jehovah was popularised in the English speaking world by William Tyndale, and other pioneer English protestants translations such as Geneva bible and the King James version, it is still used in some translations, such as the New World Translation and Young's literal translation. But it does not appear in most mainstream English translations, as the term Lord or LORD used instead generally indicating that the corresponding is Yahweh or YHWH. So by this it was Man, not God who pronounce God's Name Jehovah. Read up on your history Dolphinheart. and Haba back to you.. dolphinheart: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 2:39pm On Nov 09, 2016 |
@Brocab If you feel my last post is judgemental, it's your point of view not mine. I only want you to understand the fact, that, when issues are discussed please don't attack the personality. It's easy to say am judgemental but there is nothing bad for you aligning with those who call the JWs false JWs according to Johnw74. Concentrate your efforts in addressing the issues and proper application of the scriptures. Finally, Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. I insist I don't need to disclose who I am. Every inch of the Bible I quoted so far I have not just strong but excellent believe in them. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 3:08pm On Nov 09, 2016 |
The fact is, I can see you haven't studied the Word of God throughout-that you can't even see the differences between both bibles-the people a good people-but it is their own teachings that doesn't line up with the Word Of God-and besides the New World Translation bible had either removed most of the scriptures, or they have twisted the scriptures. And if you are well into the Word Of God as you believe you are-than why haven't you seen the missing links from the NWT Bible. {Hebrews 4:12} if you truly believe the word of God is a two edged sword-then why aren't you questioning your beliefs against the Antichrist bible that hides the truth away from its own people. Johnw74 isn't actually calling the people false, he is more preferring to their teachings. And if you done any study about any other organisation, that calls themselves believers, and not believe in any truth we write what the bible says-you would know to stay away from them. The Spirit of God gives us discernment, and with this discernment we tend to stay away from anyone who believes Jesus came down as Michael the Archangel, and you would understand the scriptures-which of the angels did God ever say, you are My Son, and again you sit here at my right side-Answer to that is None of the angels.. And again if you had studied with them-you would Know that the Word is Jesus He is God from the beginning.{John 1:1} achorladey: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 3:22pm On Nov 09, 2016 |
And we have studied with the Catholic's too-and most likely you don't ever study your bibles enough to understand what we face on daily bases. achorladey: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 3:29pm On Nov 09, 2016 |
And if we belong to Churches of the Saints-then where do you belong? achorladey: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 3:34pm On Nov 09, 2016 |
So you still call your God-God god dolphinheart: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 5:25pm On Nov 09, 2016 |
@brocab I(achorladey) have never asked you to tell me where you belong. But since you now say you belong to church of the saint, that is very fantastic to hear. One sure thing I (achorladey) knows about the church of the saint is they dont serve a confusionist God but a God that is in order. Now answer the question in 1 Corinthians 11:3 I asked earlier on this thread. Please discern it like a spiritual man not like a physical man(which of the angel did he ever say you are my son).........brocab 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 7:02pm On Nov 09, 2016 |
[ quote author=dolphinheart post=50894393]here you go again! I will skip this read, read statements properly and understand it, I don't see where I accused you about scripture contradiction in that post, I asked you a simple question, I wonder when questions turned to lies again.did you see any contradiction in my post? It is not me that identified other gods, it's the scriptures, do you want me to show you again?other gods that are false gods? John17:3 has already render other gods apart from God as false. if there are other gods and yet only one is the true God even a 3yrs old will tell you they are false? 1. provide the source of these your explanation , because it does not correspond with the general meaning of god!to you pagans they are gods but to we christians they are no gods for there is only one God. All others false gods! gods that exist in this world in heaven? do you understand your statement at all?depends on which heaven, @ bold yea they are gods but they are false gods John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. It is a shame you dont believe Jesus words neither Jehovah's word. Good that you know that the one god is the father, he is the one Jesus describes as our God, as his God, the head of Jesus! And Jesus told you he and his father are one. [s]Good that youwhat a shame! This is how you have degenerated to. In order words Jehovah is not the only true God. Hummmmm. Which god has the same nature as Jehovah? [left]1. who is the god of this world :very stupid of you. Who is the god of this world? you need a brain check. After Jesus has declared only Jehovah as the true God? 2. who are the gods that God has taken his place in the mist of?and Jehovah said there are no other god? you cant differentiate between a metaphor and a literal word? 3. why is Jehovah the most high god if there are no other gods he is higher than?Jehovah is the most high of deities that are worship by men. Does this make those deities truly are gods? Mtscheeew! [s]yes we know that, and Jehovah does not sit in their midst!the god of this world have blinded your eyes thats why you thin the devil is God. False witness, you said Jesus is a god, while the devil is God. Why dont you go and worship your idol god satan who masqurades as Jehovah. Satan witnesses like father like son. I m not surprise though. No! you have same nature with your father, it does not make you your father or equal to your father! YOU ARE TWO DIFFERENT BEING, JESUS SITS AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD, HE IS NOT THE GOD HE IS SITTING AT THE RIGHT HAND OF.my father is a human and i m the son of my father therefore i m not a lesser human than my father Jesus has God's nature therefore Jesus is not a lesser God than his father. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 11:16pm On Nov 09, 2016 |
I Said "If" we belonged to the Church of the Saints-it doesn't say we are from the Church of the Saints. {1 Corinthians 11:31 if we judge ourselves we shall not be Judged. Luke 6:37, Matthew 7:1-2} We judge ourselves everyday with the Lord-when we pray we ask Him to direct us with his Word, not our own words. So when it comes to judge, we have the rights-to test the Spirits {1 John 4:1 believe "Not" every Spirit, but try the spirits weather they are of God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. And when one hear's of an organisation preaching another gospel that is "Not" of Christ-then we have the rights to judge. Like the Catholic's they believe by praying to Mary she will be their mediator between them and God. And this isn't from the word of God neither. {Matthew 7:15-20 the Lord said we will know them by their fruit} This scripture is a warning about false prophets and false teachers, Jesus tells us what to watch out for in identifying them, Because are extremely deceptive and dangerous ravenous spiritual and mortal wolves in sheep clothing-the Lord would hardly left us without means of determining who they are. Jesus assures us we will know them by their fruits. A fruit tree maybe beautiful decorative and offer pleasant shade in the summer, but its primary purpose is to bare fruit {Meaning the Word Of God} and therefore is judged by what it produces, and not by how it looks. {Matthew 24:24 for false Christ and false prophets will arise and show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead if possible even the elect} {Hebrews 5:14, but solid food for the mature, who because of practice have their senses trained to discern good and evil} Now I would like you to answer these scriptures above, and explain why did the Lord give us warning.. achorladey: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 11:37pm On Nov 09, 2016 |
It shows Satan's final deception is with the JW's solite3: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 11:58pm On Nov 09, 2016 |
achorladey: Truly johnw74: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:06am On Nov 10, 2016 |
some dum dum thinks that antichrist only refers to those who don't believe Jesus christ is come in the flesh, duh, antichrists are those who oppose Jesus Christ false jw's change what the Bible say's about Christ, and oppose Jesus Christ in teaching contrary to the Bible that Jesus Christ is God, they say He is "a god" false jw teach contrary to the Bible that Jesus Christ was not resurrected bodily, Jesus said destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up. false jw's are antichrists 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 12:13am On Nov 10, 2016 |
Johnw74 is a true man of God, the words he speaks are not His own Words, but God's alone. You are very demanding" you, nor do the Jw's recognise Jesus as the Almighty God, nor do they, nor you, recognise the scriptures-where Jesus and God are called the Mighty and the Almighty {Revelation 1:8, Isaiah 9:6} For to us a Child is born, unto us a son is given, and the government shall be upon His shoulder, and His name shall be called wonderful Councillor, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, the prince of peace. Nor you, or they, recognise Him as a man-they believe He is the Archangel Michael in person. {Not even the Catholic's believe that?} But it shows us how much you believe in their doctrines-maybe you could shed a little light on the subject, and explain where in the bible it say's Jesus is an Angel, or was one? I even bet" your the kind of person that allows every religion to walk all over you, you don't even read the scriptures for the Love of God-you read them to throw darts at people, this is how you get your victory-out of nothing. Jehovah Witnesses only believe in the name Jehovah-but God has other Names that the JW's won't accept, neither do the Catholic's, they believe Mary is their mediator-not Jesus. And on top of all that, the Catholic's pray to dead saints, praying they will talk to God on their behalf-like they do with Mary. Catholic's don't read the bible well enough to know {Matthew 6:6-13, God said we must pray to Him directly}"It shows you have a lot to learn-even atheist believe in God, the atheist could say that God raised Jesus from the dead, but this doesn't prove one is saved-everyone can read the scriptures-and still not understand them, By their fruit we will know them. One must become born again before he can enter into the kingdom of God. So before you decide to make judgement-read the scriptures, and let them tell you, what you must do. achorladey: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:53am On Nov 10, 2016 |
dolphinheart: How you love to lie, again the subject is "Jehovah means God", that's the subject you have changed. dolphinheart: see your lies, again the subject that you are running away from is "Jehovah means God" not "Jehovah is the name of God", that is true also, but not the subject oh lying one. dolphinheart: No lie lie you have not once given proof that Jehovah doesn't mean God, you even said in one of your posts that Jehovah does mean God, and it wasn't a typo, it was confusion like most of the rest that you say, what a lie lie you are. dolphinheart: I certinally do believe that Jehovah is a name for God, I could say it a hundred times and you would still say I don't, showing that you are fully entrenched in lying how you do love to lie and take after your god. Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. dolphinheart: Jehovah is a name for God, have never altered that funny you don't post all these quotes of things you claim I said and done, ha ha you way heap big lie lie dolphinheart |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:29am On Nov 10, 2016 |
dolphinheart: ha ha oh self righteous lie lie dolphinheart look at how you use every means known to lie, just like your god does "You say Jehovah means the name of God but Jehovah doesn't mean God, ha ha", <<< is a sentence of mine and you are making out that you never said that same sentence, no you didn't you have been posting on Jehovah means the name of God and you have been posting on Jehovah doesn't mean God and so my sentence is completely correct: "You say Jehovah means the name of God but Jehovah doesn't mean God, ha ha" you lie lie dolphinheart love to lie, twist, change the subject, play on words and use every means to lie and avoid the truth just like your god does |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:38am On Nov 10, 2016 |
dolphinheart: lie lie dolphinheart ha ha, the dubious one is well known, truly I quote you and then reply to that quote If I haven't quoted you then It's more likely because it's the same old repeated lies that I'm not interested in replying to, and that's why I quote you little |
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