solite3:
Cc John, brocab
Dolphinheart just admit that there are other gods besides Jehovah God.

johnw74:


false jw's believe that mighty God is Jesus and almighty God is Jehovah

Christians know that where the Bible uses the names of almighty God and mighty God, it is speaking of the same one true God.

Jehover is called mighty God in the Bible, very many more times than He is called almighty God.

brocab:
Bless Dolphinheart's heart-finely he is looking in the opposite direction.
Even if Jehovah means Lord-they recognise and worship Him as the Almighty God. And they don't even know it..

Barristter07:

brocab



they worship Jehovah whom the bible called the " MOST HIGH" . Psalm83:18


Jesus cannot be Jehovah since definitely Jesus is not the most high, any objection ?

solite3:
Cc John, brocab
Dolphinheart just admit that there are other gods besides Jehovah God.

Barristter07:

brocab



they worship Jehovah whom the bible called the " MOST HIGH" . Psalm83:18


Jesus cannot be Jehovah since definitely Jesus is not the most high, any objection ?

GuruMario:
I am not JW and will never be because I love being a catholic. but I love jw's very much. They are very polite. Smart . Intelligent and above all united set of people. I love them and can spend a day not eating as far as I have their magazine with me.
JW's love charity and helping to lessen the poor sick and needy's suffering. I do too, am I've created a forum for us all to come together and comfort the needy. But I wonder if people will love joining such forum. Will you my JW frnds? Here us the url www.fleximeet.mybb.im/register.php. Hope to see u as we wipe tears from faces.

Barristter07:
Brocab



Visit any primary or private school , even corporate organisations like Banks . in the morning before the days work, they do something called morning devotion . in most of the songs used in this devotion , many of these songs which are at times church hymns use the name " Jehovah" just to show you how baseless your arguments are . the name has been established , there is nothing haters like you can do



furthermore, since the name Jehovah is silly according to you . see below
psalm 83:18


" That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth." KJV

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is KJV silly for using the name ?

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Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And they shall know that your Name is Lord Jehovah; you alone are exalted in all the Earth!

American King James Version
That men may know that you, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, are the most high over all the earth.

American Standard Version
That they may know that thou alone, whose name is Jehovah, Art the Most High over all the earth.

Darby Bible Translation
That they may know that thou alone, whose name is Jehovah, art the Most High over all the earth.

English Revised Version
That they may know that thou alone, whose name is JEHOVAH, art the Most High over all the earth.

Webster's Bible Translation
That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH


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are this translations silly ?
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Barristter07:

brocab



they worship Jehovah whom the bible called the " MOST HIGH" . Psalm83:18


Jesus cannot be Jehovah since definitely Jesus is not the most high, any objection ?

johnw74:


false jw's believe that mighty God is Jesus and almighty God is Jehovah

Christians know that where the Bible uses the names of almighty God and mighty God, it is speaking of the same one true God.

Jehover is called mighty God in the Bible, very many more times than He is called almighty God.

brocab:
So if Dolphinheart believes there are other God's then he needs to figure out which God he recognises-which God he worships?
Jehovah means Lord right? But he treats the Lord, like this, the JW's had given Him the above name above all. The Almighty.
So without him ever understanding it, the JW's had recognised the lord as the Almighty, we Christians know God and Jesus carries the same name.
So the question is, "which god do they truly worship in their hearts?
JW's plus the Mormons and the Seven day Adventist walk side by side, they all believe in the same Rubbish-and when we look into it a little further we have nutters everywhere-some believe they were reincarnated and they returned back as Jesus, and there followers will always be followers.
All of these denominations have got to answer to the Lord when Judgement day arrives. It's a large risk to take, Jesus said go out unto all nations preaching His Gospel-not their gospel..
Many like the JW's believe Jesus was the Archangel Michael-so the truth is they worship after angels-and of course it is forbidden to do so.
But do they listen-preachers a business people-they either preach the truth about the gospel, or they steer it away from God's creation.
We just need to see the evidence around us..

brocab:
Why can't Jesus be Jehovah? Jehovah means Lord doesn't it, and God is the Father.

brocab:
I believe you" to an extent-everyone of God's creations are nice people, we all have the same quantification's, built in each of us. "Love".
But when people try and force others to believe in their lies-they don't become nice anymore-they are Wolves in sheep clothing.
I speak to many JW's nicely-they will even try and preach their own gospel to you-but as soon as you reject their gospel, they turn their backs and black list you-from them for eternity. Yes they are nice people, nice enough to walk away.
Charity works doesn't make people Christians-even the Atherist are great on charity work.
So you are Catholic so why don't you become a JW-your hearts already directed that way.
But I have a better solution for you-why don't you become a Born again Christian and get to know Christ personally in your heart.
Making this sort of discussion will change you inside out completely-and you yourself will know between the good and the evil with great discernment..

brocab:
I believe you-but the problem is-the truth about Christ isn't preached at any schools any longer-only the JW's and the Muslims can quote their beliefs on innocent Children these days.
Jesus said all those who believe in Me will be persecuted, and sure enough we are, Jesus told us these times will come.
We don't hate you-I don't, but I don't believe in any of your false religion either. I am always the one to be black listed from you at all times. It is not because I am rude-its because the truth of God is inside me, and not in you.

The word Jehovah is included in the King James seven times Jehovah is in [Genesis, Judges and Psalms Once, while it appears in Isaiah and Exodus twice} But none is found in the New Testament.
You should look up on the 1611 KJ's, Jehovah doesn't exist.

And if Jehovah is the most high as you claim him to be -then why is His name only written seven times in the Old testament?
And we can't forget it was the JW's who were printing the King James in America on their pressers, changing a few names here and there.

brocab:
Dolphinheart In {Acts 2:24} Peter say's that God raised {Jesus} from the dead" {See also Roman 8:11, 2 Corinthians 4:14, Romans 1:4} Say's that the Spirit raised Jesus from the dead?

{Romans 8:11} clearly says that God will resurrect believers "through His Spirit" And In {John 2:19} Jesus predicts He will raise Himself from the dead.
See also {John 10:18} So who exactly resurrected Jesus from the dead?[/b]

Was it the Father the Son or the Holy Spirit?

The basic answer Dolphinheart to that-God raised Him {Jesus to life} {Acts 2:32} The Father is God and the Father raised His Son to life on the third day after His crucifixion {Romans 6:4, 2 Corinthians 13:4} The Spirit is also God, and the Spirit also had part in raising Jesus up from the dead. The Son is also God, and the Son, too, was responsible for His own resurrection.

Dolphinheart how can a dead man resurrect Himself?

Answer Jesus was more then a man who died, He was the eternal Son of God, "INCARNATED" Wicked men could kill His body, but they could not change His eternal nature or diminish His divine power Read {John 10:17-18} Jesus say's something that no mortal could ever say, I lay down My life, only to take it up again. No-one takes it from Me, but I lay it down on My own accord. I have the Authority to lay it down and the Authority to take it up again. "No-one else in the history of the world has ever had the Authority both to lay down His life and raise it up again.

Dolphinheart furthermore, Jesus said I Am the resurrection and the life: {John 11:25} He did not say My Father is the resurrection. He claimed to be the resurrection Himself "LIFE RESIDES WITH JESUS" And He has absolute Authority over life and death. {Revelation 1:18}

Dolphinheart Jesus is God, He would say, He could raise up His body on the third day, because He is part of the one being of God.

Who resurrected Jesus from the dead? God did, by that we mean all 3 persons were involved, or three persons participated in creation
{1 Corinthians 8:6, Genesis 1:1-2} All three are involved in Salvation {John 3:6,16} And all three are responsible for the resurrection of Jesus Christ..

brocab:
But the problem is, David said-The Lord said to My lord-he didn't say Jehovah said to My Lord.
Matter of fact when the JW's were publishing the King James Bible-Back around the early 1900's the JW's would use the King James until around 1950's even after they published the New World Translation.

A slight problem the JW's made they had removed and twisted most translations that was written in their own bible, which of course many thousands had left the JW organisation, with the false prophesies Farmers and stock men wouldn't grow Crops, breed shocks because of the false religion the JW's decided to follow after the lie, rather than the truth.
Which of course caused an up-roar within the Watchtower organisation, confusion struct, and people from around the globe-leaving the JW's later finding Christ, and as time went by-the X JW's had managed to stay with the King James bible finding the truth in their hearts about Christ and many are saved.
Through time we see the evidence had changed-so I understand how lost you are-this is why you disagree with the King James bible, only because the Watchtower looses thousands daily, because the NWT Bible doesn't hold the manuscripts as it should. The King James Bible holds the greatest title in bible history, a selling bible that sold billions, while your bible doesn't even get a mention..
The truth will set you free-just ask an X JW..

brocab:
So you are saying the JW's didn't print the King James Bibles on the press?
Well well haven't you got something to learn about-this is properly the switch they made given God a new name Jehovah..

dolphinheart:

YOU ALWAYS LIKE CHANGING THE TOPIC WHEN EXPOSED

Ac 2:24 But God resurrected him by releasing him from the pangs of death, because it was not possible for him to be held fast by it.

Ro 8:11 If, now, the spirit of him who raised up Jesus from the dead dwells in you, the one who raised up Christ Jesus from the dead will also make your mortal bodies alive through his spirit that resides in you.

2Co 4:14knowing that the One who raised Jesus up will raise us up also with Jesus and will present us together with you.

Ro 1:4but who with power was declared God’s Son according to the spirit of holiness by means of resurrection from the dead—yes, Jesus Christ our Lord.

YOU LIE AGAIN, NONE OF THOSE VERSES SAY "THE SPIRIT RAISED JESUS FROM THE DEAD!



1. Your statement about romans 8: 11, is a lie, no wonder you could not quote the verse.

2.You have read the scriptures that tells you that God resurrected Jesus .
read this also :
Ac 3:26 God, after raising up his Servant, sent him to you first to bless you by turning each one of you away from your wicked deeds.”
Ac 5:30 The God of our forefathers raised up Jesus, whom you killed, hanging him on a stake.

Paul confirms who the God that resurrected Jesus is :
Ga 1:1Paul, an apostle, neither from men nor through a man, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised him up from the dead,

Eph 1:17,20 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the accurate knowledge of him.
:20 which he exercised toward Christ when he raised him up from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly places,

Peter also confirms who that God is:
[b]1Pe 1:3Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, for according to his great mercy he gave us a new birth to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

3. Everyone(except you) agrees that Jesus is not the same person as the father.
now did Jesus predict he will raise himself as you claim, thereby contradicting what the disciples said on several occasions that God, the father of Jesus resurrected Jesus ,his son?
Such a view would conflict with galatians 1:1, which ascribes the resurrection of Jesus to the Father, not to the Son.

Jesus used a similar mode of expression, at Luke 8:48, Jesus is quoted as saying to a woman: “Your faith has made you well.” Did she heal herself? No; it was power from God through Christ that healed her because she had faith. (read acts 10:38 ) Likewise, by his perfect obedience as a human, Jesus provided the moral basis for the Father to raise him from the dead, thus acknowledging Jesus as God’s Son. Because of Jesus’ faithful course of life, it could properly be said that Jesus himself was responsible for his resurrection.If Jesus has not been Faithfull to God, God would not have resurrected him!

4. The scriptures says Jesus died, Jesus was killed, he was raised from the dead.
The scripture also says God cannot die, therefore , the God that resurrected Jesus cannot be Jesus.

5. The difference between the personality that resurrected Jesus and Jesus himself is so glaring, the scriptures says that God did not only resurrect Jesus, he also directed Jesus to where he should go first and also made hIm sit at his right hand. Imagine,a God that is said cannot die, now died, now resurrected himself , now sat at the right hand of himself wow!
The scriptures does not teach such doctrines.


the scriptures have answered you, Jesus father, the one who gave life to Jesus , resurrected Jesus.


Jesus lived by the power of God, God used his power to resurrect Jesus. After resurrection, Jesus sat down at the right hand of God who resurrected him!


A dead man cannot resurrect himself, he knows nothing and is not conscious of anything when he dies!

1. haba, but you kept on saying Jesus is not the son of God!, you mouth dey change anyhow!

2.The scripture say Jesus emptied himself and took the form of man. The prophesies tell us how lowly Jesus will become. everything Jesus did, every miracle was by God's power given to him by God. He did not do anything on his own , but did the things he was told to do by the one who sent him!

3. If you had read that verse very well, you would have known how Jesus came about that authority, but you prefer reading the scriptures halfway!, therefore you do not know why jesus says he has authority to receive his life again!
that is why you could not understand the underlined below:
[b]Ac 2:23, 24This man, who was handed over by the determined will and foreknowledge of God, you fastened to a stake by the hand of lawless men, and you did away with him.
John 19:11Jesus answered him: “You would have no authority over me at all unless it had been granted to you from above. This is why the man who handed me over to you has greater sin.”
Ac 4:27, 28For truly both Herod and Pontius Pilate with men of the nations and with peoples of Israel were gathered together in this city against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed,28 to do what your hand and counsel had determined beforehand to occur.


read the scriptures brocab and understand better, do not read one verse and leave others that give a better or more explanation of what jesus said .
Yes , jesus said he is the resurrection and the life, why? because he knows that it is only through him that Jehovah resurrects and gives life to his loyal ones , look at the verses below and understand better.
Ro 6:23For the wages sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord.
*God gives evaluating life through one person, jesus Christ!

1Jo 2:1, 2My little children, I am writing you these things so that you may not commit a sin. And yet, if anyone does commit a sin, we have a helper with the Father, Jesus Christ, a righteous one.2And he is a propitiatory sacrifice for our sins, yet not for ours only but also for the whole world’s.
* we can't gain life if our sins are not fogIving, we can't come to the father except through the helper Jesus. In our bid to get to the father, we have a helper, Christ Jesus!

1Pe 1:3, 4 Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, for according to his great mercy he gave us a new birth to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4to an incorruptible and undefiled and unfading inheritance. It is reserved in the heavens for you,
* Can you see the true source of evaluating life, if you can't, their is little I can do!, we gain life through Jesus , but life comes from the father, God almighty , the most high God.

Heb 5:9And after he had been made perfect, he BECAME RESPONSIBLE for everlasting salvation to all those obeying him,
Heb 5:10 because he has been designated by God a high priest in the manner of Mel·chizʹe·dek[/color]

no wonder Jesus could say this :
Joh 5:26For just as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted also to the Son to have life in himself.
* do you see the one who granted Jesus to have life?.
The scriptures teaches us that God sent Jesus so that those who exercise faith in Jesus will have life!, yet sou could not understand why Jesus said he is the resurrection and the life!, I tire for you o!.
I told you to read John chapter 17, you refused, see what it is causing you now! GO AND READ IT AND SEE WHO EVERYTHING BELONGS TO!


wrong understanding, Jesus and the father are not the same being!


JESUS DIED SIR!, THE SCRIPTURES SAY'S GOD CANNOT DIE. THE SCRIPTURES SAY'S THE FATHER RESURRECTED JESUS SEVERAL TIMES.
JESUS CANNOT BE THE GOD WHO RESURRECTED HIM AND SAT HIM AT HIS RIGHT HAND. IT'S LIKE SAYING JESUS RESURRECTED HIMSELF, SAT HIMSELF AT HIS OWN RIGHT HAND AND TALKED TO HIMSELF, HABA!

What one should take from Jesus statement is Christ's unshakeable confidence in the Father to resurrect Him to everlasting spirit life. Just moments before His death, Christ cried out: “Father, into Your hands I commit My spirit” ( Luke 23:46 )—showing His total trust in God the Father.

Finally I leave you with this verse, Christ knew who could resurrect him, he knew he was not the one to resurrect himself!, he knew the one who had the power to do so, wHo has promised to do so.
King James Version
Heb 5:7Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death,and was heard in that he feared;

GOD, THE FATHER, HIS FATHER, THE ALMIGHTY, THE MOST HIGH GOD , HEARD JESUS AND RESURRECTED HIM! EXALTED HIM AND PUT HIM AT HIS RIGHT SIDE!

Barristter07:


Wetin dem ask am, wetin he dey talk

dolphinheart and archorladey .. you dey try sha!

Barristter07:
brocab

with reference to the bold, which is the only reasonable question in the above post.

this is why

Psalm 83:18 stated clearly that Jehovah is the MOST HIGH , so for Jesus to be Jehovah he must be the Most HIGH .

Oga brocab ... is Jesus the most High ?

johnw74:


Oh boy, what long posts of confusion,
since God has many names, my saying Jehovah is "a name for God" is correct.
such a long post saying it isn't
Jehovah is [size=14pt]a[/size] name for God, Jehovah is [size=14pt]the[/size] name of God, makes no difference at all to Jehovah meaning God
just more twisting from false jw

dolphinheart:


DID THE JW PRINT THE KING JAMES VERSION YOU ARE USING?
DOES THE KJV VERSION YOU ARE USING HAVE THE WORD JEHOVAH IN IT?
CAN YOU POST ONE OF THOSE VERSES?

you will not answer these questions cus you are a liar!

dolphinheart:


DID THE JW PRINT THE KING JAMES VERSION YOU ARE USING?
DOES THE KJV VERSION YOU ARE USING HAVE THE WORD JEHOVAH IN IT?
CAN YOU POST ONE OF THOSE VERSES?

you will not answer these questions cus you are a liar!

johnw74:


You say Jehovah means the name of God but Jehovah doesn't mean God, ha ha

Jehovah means the self existent - Jehovah means God
unless someone else other than Jehovah is the self existent.

H3068
יְהֹוָה
yehôvâh
yeh-ho-vaw'
From H1961; (the) self Existent or eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God: - Jehovah, the Lord. Compare H3050, H3069.
Total KJV occurrences: 6521

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. 

However as we are seeing there is a lot of confusion outside of the Churches of the saints.
supossed Jehovah witness doesn't know that Jehovah means God.

dolphinheart:

he could think, say and understand things anyhow he wants, i already know he does not stay on topic , it's just the lies he spills and false, unproven accusations that comes out of him that I don't like and comment on.

dolphinheart:

YOU ARE A LIAR, IS THE TETRAMAGRAM THAT IS ACCEPTED AS GODS NAME, THAT IS TRANSLATED AS JEHOVAH PRESENT IN THAT VERSE OR NOT!
If you wanto to lie, lie better lie, don't fomulate falsehood that can be easily debunked .


I asked you a question about the kjv, you could not respond. popularity does not mean truth. narrow is the way and few are the ones finding it!

solite3:
[ i didnt do it on purpose

Yes , a mighty god, but he is not the same god as the father, the father is the almighty God, the supreme being, the most high God, the one jesus and the disciples told us to worship.
Ps 82:1God takes his place in the divine assembly; In the middle of the gods he judges: does that imply that there are two gods?

the scripture above identifies God Judging in the middle of other gods, their are other God's apart from the Almighty God. [/b]you can only be most high if their are others you are higher than. If their are no other, then you are not higher than anyone. @ bold wow dolphinheart
There are other gods besides Jehovah!

Isaiah 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: [b]before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.


This clearly exposes you as a false witness.
Funny enough this is the verse you claim Jehovah witness came from. Hmmmmmmm
The disciples of jesus know these truth , that is why they stated below:
1Co 8:5For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,”

But jesus has taught them who among all those god's is the one they should serve , the only true God!, the almighty!
Joh 17:3This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ
*jesus was talking about the father as the only true God.

Joh 20:17Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”

It is this knowledge that made the disciples say this :
1Co 8:6 there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are and we through him.
like I said before,you barely know what u are quoting.
Lol, i know you must be confused by now.
do you know whh 'only' is used?
If there is only one true God does that not mean all others are false gods?

The disciples know that their God is not three persons in one, that the father and jesus are not same person, neither are they same God, their words have rejected the trinity, man made doctrines that was believed by pagans and later crept into Christianity long after they died!.
They know who theIr God is, he is the father and only the father! NO ADDITIONS!.
the disciples knew Jesus was God.
Was it not a disciple who called Jesus his God and Lord?
Was it not a disciple who vividly wrote that Jesus is God? Joh 1:1
Dont make me laugh plssss!
Ur denial cannot alter what is written! Its either you believe or you dont.


wrong? wrong about what?



solite3, I asked you :do you have more than one god, the father like the apostles have or you have more than than the father as your God?

The disciples only have one God, and they identified that one God as the father!, just as jesus taught them. your answer has proven that you do not have the Same God as the disciples , you do not worship the same god the disciples identified as their God.
1Ti 2:5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus,
i answered you that i have only one God the father. Jesus is not no2 God but is the very God.


1. its Good to see you understood the issue of who recieves the Glory, as you have seen who receives the glory of bowing to jesus. The verses did not even say God (so that you might twist it), it Identified who God is, he is the father!
you dont even know that the father 's glory is also the son's glory. Lol
Well thats not the point i was making.

My point is,
If God commanded that we should not bow down to anyother god why the sudden change in the new testament.
Does God change?


2. Our discussion have been on who jehovah is, as you claim Jehovah is jesus christ because all are commanded to bow to him. [s]These assertion has been proven to be false when we looked at the context of that verse when the command was given:[[/s]/quote] @ bold almost exactly my point is if Jehovah said we should not bow down to anyother god how come he tells us to bow down to another god.i didnt bring in the topic of who receives it or not.

Exodus 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

You see this verse never talk of who recieves the glory or not but was clear and unambigious that we should not bow down before another god.

@cancelled one verse of the bible cannot cancel another Jesus said God's word cannot be broken as you are trying so hard to do.


this your tacts of evading qjestions ehhh
That verse you quoted said every knee bows to Jesus but isaiah said every knees will bow to Jehovah.

Isaiah 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
Jehovah even sworn by himself that every knee will bow to him and now he said every knee should bow to Jesus. is this not God breaking his own oat? Do you think made a mistake when he said every knee would bow to Jesus as a Jew who know the law?


how can God give a command for us to bow to another god? Something does not fit in?
if Jesus is not Jehovah, that leaves a big dent on God's character because that means God lied when he said unto him every knee will bow and every tongue confess


dont try to manipulate that verse, it says every knee would bow and ever tongue would confess that Jesus is the Lord. So it is clear that evey knee will bow to and the tongue would confess to the same God.

Jehovah said to him every knee would bow and every tongue will confess, he didnt say every knee would bow to him while their tongue will confess to another god. Be guided.

@ bold No sir! The problem is you have a wrong understanding and you lack the holy spirit.
@coloured i didnt refuse to explain. Infact i will be glad to preach Jesus to you but arguement has blinded you. I min no offence.



false witness opinion will not make Jesus loss his Godhood infact your opinion does not matter.it is the word of God that matters.
@ bold questioning God or watch tower teaching?

@ bold u have answered my question no human bears that title Saviour but Jehovah hence Jehovah is the sole saviour of the Jews although he might have raised people who acts as delivers at some point but Jehovah bears the name Saviour.
Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.


Jesus fully bears the same title Saviour

Philippians 3:20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:

BTW Saviour of Israel is not a human title. Jehovah identifies himself as the Saviour of Israel.

Isaiah 45:15 Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Saviour.

dolphinheart:

STOP LYING AGAINST ME!


you have issues with grammar.
you read that Jehovah means self existent, does self existent mean God? no , go and read up on the definition of God and see why the Hebrews have different words for God and Jehovah, those words don't mean the same thing!



1. I've helped you underlined the part you cannot see, the parts which is confirmed by the scriptures.


The confusion exists only in your mind, alternating and adding to the meaning of Jehovah given to you. nowhere will you see the statement Jehovah means God", except from the mouth of people like you!.

even the KJV does not say Jehovah means God:
JEHO'VAH, n. The Scripture name of the Supreme Being.If, as is supposed, this name is from the Hebrew substantive verb, the word denotes the Permanent Being, as the primary sense of the substantive verb in all languages, is to be fixed, to stand, to remain or abide. This is a name peculiarly appropriate to the eternal Spirit, the unchangeable God, who describes himself thus, I am that I am. Ex.3.