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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 5:09pm On Nov 05, 2016 |
solite3:On this thread, 12:41pm On Nov 03 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 11:33pm On Nov 05, 2016 |
dolphinheart: duh, we know Jehovah is a name for God, that in itself shows Jehovah means God. The subject is the meaning of the name Jehovah, but of course true to form you reject the truth that's been posted: Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. If possible read again with eyes that see: johnw74: johnw74: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 11:52pm On Nov 05, 2016 |
Facts you should know about those who call themselves Jehovah's Witnesses, but who are not and do lie, and are the church of satan Is the Jehovah's Witness religion Christian? by Matt Slick 12/05/08 The answer to the question is, "No. It is not Christian." Like all non-Christian cults, the Jehovah's Witness' organization distorts the essential doctrines of Christianity. It denies the deity of Christ, His physical resurrection, and salvation by grace. These make it non-Christian. In addition, to support its erring doctrines, the Watchtower organization (which is the author and teacher of all official Jehovah's Witness' theology) has altered the Bible to make it agree with its changing and non-Christian teachings. Typical with cults that use the Bible to support its position is a host of interpretive errors: Taking verses out of their immediate context. Refusing to read verses in the entire biblical context. Inserting their theological presuppositions into the text. Altering the Biblical text to suit their needs. Latching onto one verse to interpret a host of others. Changing the meanings of words. Proclaiming some passages to be figurative when they contradict their doctrines. Adding to the Word of God. Additionally, the Jehovah's Witness' organization requires of its members regular weekly attendance at their "Bible Study" meetings where they are repeatedly indoctrinated with anti-Christian teachings. This is done by reading the Watchtower magazine, following along with what it says, reading the questions it asks, and reciting the answers it gives. In other words, the Watchtower Organization carefully trains its members to let the Organization do their thinking for them. For confirmation of this, please read Does the Watchtower organization control the JW's thinking? From: carm org 2 Likes |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 11:54pm On Nov 05, 2016 |
The Witnesses are told they will be persecuted when they go door-to-door teaching their doctrines. They are further told that this is simply the enemy fighting against God's organization because they are in "the truth." So, when someone disagrees with them, they are conditioned to reflect on what the Watchtower has told them. They then feel confirmed in being in God's true organization on earth (like all cults claim). They are strongly encouraged to have friends and acquaintances that are only JW's, thereby keeping outside examination to a minimum. They are told to shun those who leave their group, for in this way there is no way to see why someone has left and no way to find out that they are in error from those who have found the truth in Christ. They are conditioned to shy away from any real biblically knowledgeable person. An example of this is frequently found on the Internet. I was once banned from a Jehovah's Witness' chat room after I not only answered their objections to the Trinity and deity of Christ but also challenged them in return. Subsequently, my name was passed around to all other Jehovah's Witness' rooms where I was banned from them as well. This is a frequent occurrence on the Internet where the Jehovah's Witnesses are alive and well. It is obvious that critical examination of their doctrines is not encouraged by the Watchtower Organization. The Jehovah's Witnesses consider themselves to be Christians because they believe they are serving the true and living God. Like many cults, they think they are the only true church on earth. Yet, they deny the Trinity, the deity of Christ, the personhood of the Holy Spirit, Jesus' physical resurrection, and salvation by grace through faith. The Jehovah's Witnesses are discouraged from looking into Jehovah's Witness' history or old Watchtower literature which is replete with contradictions, altered doctrines, and false prophecies. Instead, they are indoctrinated repeatedly against basic Christian doctrines (Trinity, deity of Christ, etc.,) and into the notion that they alone are the true servants of God and that all others are either in "Christendom" or simply unbelievers. Primarily, the Jehovah's Witness' organization is a mind-control organization that uses its people to pass out literature and send in "donations" to the headquarters in Brooklyn, New York. "Thus the Bible is an organizational book and belongs to the Christian congregation as an organization and not to individuals, regardless of how sincerely they may believe that they can interpret the Bible."(The Watchtower, Oct. 1, 1967, p. 587.) Conclusion The Watchtower organization of the Jehovah's Witnesses is a non-Christian organization that uses its people to promulgate false doctrines, collects "contributions" for distribution of a multitudinous amount of literature, and expands its grip into the lives of its members and their families. It is a non-Christian cult. From: carm org 2 Likes |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 1:03am On Nov 06, 2016 |
YEH RIGHT? dolphinheart: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 1:11am On Nov 06, 2016 |
The name Jehovah God was change by the JW's when the JW's were printing the King James out on there own pressers. Even after the New Word Translation was made. The switch was made in those times. Not even the Jewish People used the Jehovah's name as their God.. johnw74: 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 1:22am On Nov 06, 2016 |
So was the Lord talking to Jehovah or was it Jehovah talking to the Lord? dolphinheart: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:16am On Nov 06, 2016 |
Dolphinheart In {Acts 2:24} Peter say's that God raised {Jesus} from the dead" {See also Roman 8:11, 2 Corinthians 4:14, Romans 1:4} Say's that the Spirit raised Jesus from the dead? {Romans 8:11} clearly says that God will resurrect believers "through His Spirit" And In {John 2:19} Jesus predicts He will raise Himself from the dead. See also {John 10:18} So who exactly resurrected Jesus from the dead? Was it the Father the Son or the Holy Spirit? The basic answer Dolphinheart to that-God raised Him {Jesus to life} {Acts 2:32} The Father is God and the Father raised His Son to life on the third day after His crucifixion {Romans 6:4, 2 Corinthians 13:4} The Spirit is also God, and the Spirit also had part in raising Jesus up from the dead. The Son is also God, and the Son, too, was responsible for His own resurrection. Dolphinheart how can a dead man resurrect Himself? Answer Jesus was more then a man who died, He was the eternal Son of God, "INCARNATED" Wicked men could kill His body, but they could not change His eternal nature or diminish His divine power Read {John 10:17-18} Jesus say's something that no mortal could ever say, I lay down My life, only to take it up again. No-one takes it from Me, but I lay it down on My own accord. I have the Authority to lay it down and the Authority to take it up again. "No-one else in the history of the world has ever had the Authority both to lay down His life and raise it up again. Dolphinheart furthermore, Jesus said I Am the resurrection and the life: {John 11:25} He did not say My Father is the resurrection. He claimed to be the resurrection Himself "LIFE RESIDES WITH JESUS" And He has absolute Authority over life and death. {Revelation 1:18} Dolphinheart Jesus is God, He would say, He could raise up His body on the third day, because He is part of the one being of God. Who resurrected Jesus from the dead? God did, by that we mean all 3 persons were involved, or three persons participated in creation {1 Corinthians 8:6, Genesis 1:1-2} All three are involved in Salvation {John 3:6,16} And all three are responsible for the resurrection of Jesus Christ.. dolphinheart: 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:28am On Nov 06, 2016 |
You are a dreamer-JW's don't get handed down anything from the Lord-you don't accept Christ, you maybe the head of your wife-but Jesus isn't the head of you, you and your organisation doesn't even recognise Him. So how can you claim He is the head of Man. When you claim that Jehovah God is the only God that exist.. achorladey: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 2:43am On Nov 06, 2016 |
satan means the accuser, and if the accuser is the devil, then satan means the devil Jehovah means the self existent, and if the self existent is God, then Jehovan means God satan means the devil and Jehovah means God but to false jw Jehovah doesn't mean God, Ha ha, well it is true that their jehovah is not God, that's where there confusion lies. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 3:05am On Nov 06, 2016 |
brocab: I only use the name Jehovah when adressing false jw so as they don't get even more confused. The true name of god might be Yahovah, it might be Yahweh or something else I'm not talking about Jehovah being the true name of God, but about YHWH however it's pronounced meaning God, and of course YHWH means self existing, and only God is self existing, meaning that YHWH means the self existing God. I only glance through false jw threads, how do you pronounce YHWH bro? |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 10:08am On Nov 06, 2016 |
johnw74:stop being dubious , they did not say " name for God" , they said "NAME OF GOD" Jehovah (/dʒᵻˈhoʊvə/ jə-hoh-və) is a Latinization of the Hebrew יְהֹוָה, one vocalizationof the Tetragrammaton יהוה (YHWH), the proper name of the God of Israel in theHebrew Bible. wikepedia a name of God in the Old Testament, a rendering of the ineffable name, JHVH, in the Hebrew Scriptures. dictionary dot com —used as the name of Godin the Old Testament of the Bible merriam-webster dictionary EVEN IF YOU DNT BELIEVE THE ABOVE, BELIEVE WHAT THE SCRIPTURES TELL YOU King James Version Ps 83:18That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth. American Standard Version exodus 6:3 and I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, as God Almighty; but by my name Jehovah I was not known to them. Isa 42:8 I am Jehovah. That is my name; I give my glory to no one else, Nor my praise to graven images. Ex 3:15Then God said once more to Moses: “This is what you are to say to the Israelites, ‘Jehovah the God of your forefathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.’ This is my name forever, and this is how I am to be remembered from generation to generation. Ex 15:3Jehovah is a powerful warrior. Jehovah is his name.. PLS DO NOT DENY THAT JEHOVAH IS NOT THE NAME OF GOD, FOR YOU WILL BE WHAT THE PSALMIST PRAYED AGAINST! Pr 30:9So that I do not become satisfied and deny you and say, “Who is Jehovah?” Nor let me become poor and steal and dishonor the name of my God. The subject is the meaning of the name Jehovah,Jehovah is the name of the God of the Jews, that God in the only self existant God. Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.[b]Joh 20:17Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” I know who my father is! If possible read again with eyes that see: EVEN THE KJV dictionary says : KJV Dictionary / J / jehovah KJV Dictionary Definition: jehovahjehovah JEHO'VAH, n. The Scripture name of the Supreme Being. If, as is supposed, this name is from the Hebrew substantive verb, the word denotes the Permanent Being, as the primary sense of the substantive verb in all languages, is to be fixed, to stand, to remain or abide. This is a name peculiarly appropriate to the eternal Spirit, the unchangeable God, who describes himself thus, I am that I am. Ex.3. Jehovah does not mean God, God is a different Hebrew word from Jehovah. Hebrew: אלהים Transliteration: 'ĕlôhîym Pronunciation: el-o-heem' Definition: Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural {thus} especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative: - {angels} X {exceeding} God (gods) ({-dess} {-ly}) X (very) {great} {judges} X mighty. KJV Usage: God (2,346x), god (244x), judge (5x), GOD (1x), goddess (2x), great (2x), mighty (2x), angels (1x), exceeding (1x), God-ward (with H4136) (1x), godly (1x). Occurs: 2606 In verses: 2249 NEITHER DID ANY TRANSLATOR TRANSLATE THE HEBREW WORD FOR JEHOVAH AS GOD! 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 10:17am On Nov 06, 2016 |
brocab: oh my!, SEE LIES!!! 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 10:27am On Nov 06, 2016 |
brocab:You don't know who was talking to who ? Here it is again : Ps 110:1 Jehovah declared to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.” the verse above tells you who was talking to who and what the person said. The scriptures has shown to you how what that person said was fulfilled, Jehovah(God, the most high, almighty, supreme one) sits jesus(his son, servant, messiah, appointed one, his apostle) at his right hand. The prophecies said this, the scriptures recorded this , Stephen even saw a vision of jesus at the right hand of God! 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 11:15am On Nov 06, 2016 |
@BroCab the JWs don't accept christ yet they use John 3:16 in many of there books, brochures and magazines that discuss Jesus or the Ransom( Jehovah’s Greatest gift). Learn to apply scriptures Bro. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 1:46pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
But the problem is, David said-The Lord said to My lord-he didn't say Jehovah said to My Lord. Matter of fact when the JW's were publishing the King James Bible-Back around the early 1900's the JW's would use the King James until around 1950's even after they published the New World Translation. A slight problem the JW's made they had removed and twisted most translations that was written in their own bible, which of course many thousands had left the JW organisation, with the false prophesies Farmers and stock men wouldn't grow Crops, breed shocks because of the false religion the JW's decided to follow after the lie, rather than the truth. Which of course caused an up-roar within the Watchtower organisation, confusion struct, and people from around the globe-leaving the JW's later finding Christ, and as time went by-the X JW's had managed to stay with the King James bible finding the truth in their hearts about Christ and many are saved. Through time we see the evidence had changed-so I understand how lost you are-this is why you disagree with the King James bible, only because the Watchtower looses thousands daily, because the NWT Bible doesn't hold the manuscripts as it should. The King James Bible holds the greatest title in bible history, a selling bible that sold billions, while your bible doesn't even get a mention.. The truth will set you free-just ask an X JW.. dolphinheart: 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 2:16pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
@BroCab The JWs do not accept christ yet they use John 3 :16 in many of there books, brochures and magazines that discuss Jesus or the Ransom sacrifice(Jehovah’s Greatest gift). They do not accept christ yet they produce the book 'the greatest man who ever lived'. Learn to apply scriptures properly. It will do you good. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:20pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
Well then if the JW's don't accept Christ Yet-then how do you call yourselves Christian? achorladey: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 2:23pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
brocab brocab: there are other translations out there which says Jehovah said to My Lord "Jehovah saith unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool." ASV "{Psalm of David.} Jehovah said unto my Lord, Sit at my right hand, until I put thine enemies [as] footstool of thy feet." Darby Do you have any issue with these ?
how many Ex Jw have you met , you will be surprised that many Ex JW left only to pursue worldly pleasures , majority lose interest in the God and Bible and some turned atheist . some who seem to hold on to the bible becomes sit at home Christians forsaking Hebrew 10:24,25 and isolating themselves, something the scripture advised against . why? they have known the truth, and their conscience won't allow them join most religion that preach lies. and since they have left their source of truth , they just stray from believing in God altogether . hehehehehehehe who lose . 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:26pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
So you are saying the JW's didn't print the King James Bibles on the press? Well well haven't you got something to learn about-this is properly the switch they made given God a new name Jehovah.. dolphinheart: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:31pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
I wonder where the name Jehovah came from, it sounds silly in the bible-Jehovah means God-and if the JW's call Jehovah God-then really they are saying God God? If the Jews knew about it, it would be spelt Yehovah. And I have met heaps of X JW's they are everywhere. Barristter07: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:38pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
But see that's the problem if the JW's really knew Christ in the first place-people couldn't turn away to become Atheist. Barristter07: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 2:38pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
@brocab... You dont seem to understand what I wrote. Can the JWs say they are not christians and still make good use of John 3v16? The JWs produced the book' The greatest man who ever lived' and yet in your own heart you believe they are not christians or do not accept christ. The JWs sees the Ransom as Jehovah's greatest gift. Yet you still believe they do not accept christ. Hope you have a clear view of my point earlier. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:45pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
People can read any book-and not become part of it-but without living it-and knowing Christ-the book is just a book.. And in your case-Christ is just a book. Quoting scriptures proves nothing to anybody. achorladey: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 2:50pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
Brocab brocab: Visit any primary or private school , even corporate organisations like Banks . in the morning before the days work, they do something called morning devotion . in most of the songs used in this devotion , many of these songs which are at times church hymns use the name " Jehovah" just to show you how baseless your arguments are . the name has been established , there is nothing haters like you can do furthermore, since the name Jehovah is silly according to you . see below psalm 83:18 " That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth." KJV [size=27] is KJV silly for using the name ? [/size] Aramaic Bible in Plain English And they shall know that your Name is Lord Jehovah; you alone are exalted in all the Earth! American King James Version That men may know that you, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, are the most high over all the earth. American Standard Version That they may know that thou alone, whose name is Jehovah, Art the Most High over all the earth. Darby Bible Translation That they may know that thou alone, whose name is Jehovah, art the Most High over all the earth. English Revised Version That they may know that thou alone, whose name is JEHOVAH, art the Most High over all the earth. Webster's Bible Translation That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH [size=27] are this translations silly ? [/size] 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 3:00pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
brocab: Wetin dem ask am, wetin he dey talk dolphinheart and archorladey .. you dey try sha! 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 3:23pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
Brocab said and I quote 'And in your(achorladey) case-Christ is just a book'. Brocab speak for yourself don't speak for me. Please don't corrupt the mind of those following the thread. Jesus Christ, I(achorladey) insist remains Jehovah’s Greatest gift for mankind and I. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 3:45pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
John 3 :16 explain the best possible way for the JWs and mankind can use the greatest gift. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 6:03pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
dolphinheart:stop being dubious , they did not say " name for God" , they said "NAME OF GOD" Oh boy, what long posts of confusion, since God has many names, my saying Jehovah is "a name for God" is correct. such a long post saying it isn't Jehovah is [size=14pt]a[/size] name for God, Jehovah is [size=14pt]the[/size] name of God, makes no difference at all to Jehovah meaning God just more twisting from false jw johnw74: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 6:13pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
dolphinheart: You say Jehovah means the name of God but Jehovah doesn't mean God, ha ha Jehovah means the self existent - Jehovah means God unless someone else other than Jehovah is the self existent. H3068 יְהֹוָה yehôvâh yeh-ho-vaw' From H1961; (the) self Existent or eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God: - Jehovah, the Lord. Compare H3050, H3069. Total KJV occurrences: 6521 1Co 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. However as we are seeing there is a lot of confusion outside of the Churches of the saints. supossed Jehovah witness doesn't know that Jehovah means God. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 6:24pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
[ quote author=dolphinheart post=50731902][/quote] i didnt do it on purpose Yes , a mighty god, but he is not the same god as the father, the father is the almighty God, the supreme being, the most high God, the one jesus and the disciples told us to worship.does that imply that there are two gods? the scripture above identifies God Judging in the middle of other gods, their are other God's apart from the Almighty God. [/b]you can only be most high if their are others you are higher than. If their are no other, then you are not higher than anyone.@ bold wow dolphinheart There are other gods besides Jehovah! Isaiah 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: [b]before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. This clearly exposes you as a false witness. Funny enough this is the verse you claim Jehovah witness came from. Hmmmmmmm The disciples of jesus know these truth , that is why they stated below:like I said before,you barely know what u are quoting. Lol, i know you must be confused by now. do you know whh 'only' is used? If there is only one true God does that not mean all others are false gods? The disciples know that their God is not three persons in one, that the father and jesus are not same person, neither are they same God, their words have rejected the trinity, man made doctrines that was believed by pagans and later crept into Christianity long after they died!.the disciples knew Jesus was God. Was it not a disciple who called Jesus his God and Lord? Was it not a disciple who vividly wrote that Jesus is God? Joh 1:1 Dont make me laugh plssss! Ur denial cannot alter what is written! Its either you believe or you dont. solite3, I asked you :do you have more than one god, the father like the apostles have or you have more than than the father as your God?i answered you that i have only one God the father. Jesus is not no2 God but is the very God. 1. its Good to see you understood the issue of who recieves the Glory, as you have seen who receives the glory of bowing to jesus. The verses did not even say God (so that you might twist it), it Identified who God is, he is the father!you dont even know that the father 's glory is also the son's glory. Lol Well thats not the point i was making. My point is, If God commanded that we should not bow down to anyother god why the sudden change in the new testament. Does God change? 2. Our discussion have been on who jehovah is, as you claim Jehovah is jesus christ because all are commanded to bow to him. [s]These assertion has been proven to be false when we looked at the context of that verse when the command was given:[[/s]/quote] @ bold almost exactly my point is if Jehovah said we should not bow down to anyother god how come he tells us to bow down to another god.i didnt bring in the topic of who receives it or not.this your tacts of evading qjestions ehhh That verse you quoted said every knee bows to Jesus but isaiah said every knees will bow to Jehovah. Isaiah 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear. Jehovah even sworn by himself that every knee will bow to him and now he said every knee should bow to Jesus. is this not God breaking his own oat? Do you think made a mistake when he said every knee would bow to Jesus as a Jew who know the law? 3. As explained to you in the scriptures, [b]you are bending in the name of Jesus because God gave the command to do so, an[/b]d our bending in that name is to the Glory of God, you are not worshiping jesus, but worshiping and obeying God's command.how can God give a command for us to bow to another god? Something does not fit in? This does not mean God is Jesus, but the bending is still to God though you are doing it in jesus name!if Jesus is not Jehovah, that leaves a big dent on God's character because that means God lied when he said unto him every knee will bow and every tongue confess Jehovah has granted the faithful resurrected Jesus Christ a superior position and a name that is above every other name, “so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground.” All who gain life must bend their knees in worship to Jehovah in the name of Jesus Christ and acknowledge him as Lord to God’s glory.dont try to manipulate that verse, it says every knee would bow and ever tongue would confess that Jesus is the Lord. So it is clear that evey knee will bow to and the tongue would confess to the same God. Jehovah said to him every knee would bow and every tongue will confess, he didnt say every knee would bow to him while their tongue will confess to another god. Be guided. Do not think the scriptures contradict (even though you refuse to explain it), Follow God's arrangement of using the son to achieve his will, which includes the issue of who you bow to!@ bold No sir! The problem is you have a wrong understanding and you lack the holy spirit. @coloured i didnt refuse to explain. Infact i will be glad to preach Jesus to you but arguement has blinded you. I min no offence. [b]Eph 1:9by making known to us the sacred secret of his will. It is according to his good pleasure that he himself purposedfalse witness opinion will not make Jesus loss his Godhood infact your opinion does not matter.it is the word of God that matters. @ bold questioning God or watch tower teaching? You asked me: was there anybody in history who the israelities recognises as their saviour?@ bold u have answered my question no human bears that title Saviour but Jehovah hence Jehovah is the sole saviour of the Jews although he might have raised people who acts as delivers at some point but Jehovah bears the name Saviour. Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour. Jesus fully bears the same title Saviour Philippians 3:20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: BTW Saviour of Israel is not a human title. Jehovah identifies himself as the Saviour of Israel. Isaiah 45:15 Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Saviour. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 6:50pm On Nov 06, 2016 |
Cc John, brocab Dolphinheart just admit that there are other gods besides Jehovah God. |
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