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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by optional1(f): 10:09am On Nov 13, 2016
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:19am On Nov 13, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


That skill was not uncalled for. I disagree. Iwobi was under pressure and pulled that skill off with great attitude. He moved the ball into an area of space and got to it.

So when will the player have gotten the chance to clear Iwobi's legs. Is it before or after the skill? That was a brilliant choice and he deserves praise for that.

Seems Iwobi has a bag of tricks because, Ozil said he reminds him of Okocha. I hope he unlocks them.
no defender he pulled that stunt on will Mark him with good intentions if he dares crosses his lane another time.

and more over Wenger doesn't like that kind of fancy football
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:20am On Nov 13, 2016
blueto:
I have really respected you because of your great profundity and expertise in football analyses, and to be honest, I even started to ditch my opinion that Iheanacho was better playing behind a top striker because of your erstwhile analyses that depicted contrary. But his performance against the Algerians was glaring, and I have made a resolute verdict that he is better playing behind a top striker. He is a fabulous poacher when he is behind, he positions perfectly for passes to come inside the box and delivers lethal strikes. Those coruscating goals he scored in UAE were scored as an attacking midfielder.

Speaking on team praises and personal accolades, although a player's interest ought to be subordinated to the team's interest. but I will also say that both goes together. The team's goal in that encounter was to win the match, and if it took the brilliant and terrific performance of Iheanacho for them to achieve such goal then what stops them from welcoming it??

Lets say that Moses picked up an injury prior to the match and hence, he was omitted from the squad, then who would have been the marksman against Algeria with Iheanacho's attempts curtailed as the top striker by the Algerians? Iwobi cannot be relied upon now as a consistent goalscorer.

Iheanacho is versatile as an attacking player no doubt, but if you want to get the best of him, then play him behind a top striker.

We had deadly forwards flanking Iheanacho. The misplaced passes and poor control came from the closely marked defenders.

Even passes meant to connect to him came with force because our forwards and midfielders had to find him in tight situations. This is why he had challenges. Not because he is not effective there.

Rohr picked him to play that role after coming up with the most effective strategy to nullify the Algerians.

The beauty of this option, was the room our forward players played in. Mikel, Iwobi and Moses had room to cause havoc to the Algerians defence.

Mikel had chances before the first goal came. Without Moses, Success or S. Moses might have the chance to score the goals.

In a different scenario where Iheanacho is not closely marked, he will rip the post repeatedly.

His mobility is phenomenal. The goal he missed was due to his exceptional mobile movements. The header he did not reach was a result of his speed and intelligence. Even though the cross was far, he was alert and fast.

The problem Iheanacho had was we did not create clean chances for him. This was due to him being closely marked.

It worked our favour.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:23am On Nov 13, 2016
krattoss:
no defender he pulled that stunt on will Mark him with good intentions if he dares crosses his lane another time.

and more over Wenger doesn't like that kind of fancy football


It was the best choice Iwobi made. That is what matters. Most other options would have landed the ball with the opposition.

Okocha played with more guts in the EPL and I never found his legs in the stands. Defenders stand the risk of a red card with reckless tackles.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:24am On Nov 13, 2016
BascoVanVeli:


Are u saying he was provocative?
that was really provocative and uncalled for..

I remember pundits warning neymar of his antics and provocative dribbles.. u saw how one malaga defender elbowed him when he was try ing to nutmeg the dude..

many players can do plenty of skills for showoffs.. but when it comes to business.. u gats respect u'r opponents..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:28am On Nov 13, 2016
krattoss:
that was really provocative and uncalled for..

I remember pundits warning neymar of his antics and provocative dribbles.. u saw how one malaga defender elbowed him when he was try ing to nutmeg the dude..

many players can do plenty of skills for showoffs.. but when it comes to business.. u gats respect u'r opponents..

I repeat, that skill was the best option. Iwobi is not the kind of player that shows off for no reason. It was a tight situation. I did not see another option. So the term uncalled for is not the right phrase. Or, you will prefer Iwobi handing over possession instead of using that skill to get the ball to a safer place.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:28am On Nov 13, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


It was the best choice Iwobi made. That is what matters. Most other option would have landed the ball with the opposition.

Okocha played with more guts in the EPL and I never found his legs in the stands. Defenders stand the risk of a red card with reckless tackles.
ok I reserve my comments for now.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 10:36am On Nov 13, 2016
BascoVanVeli:
Wat happened in south africa was an insult to the progress that has gone on in African football. That ref and his team should be suspended.
saw highlight of the match, the Ghanian ref is a fraud and a disgrace to African football, manufacture penalty from nothing, reminds me of Npfl yrs back.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:44am On Nov 13, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


I disagree with the idea that people hate Onazi. He had a poor second half and that was why people made honest complain. Unfortunately, most did not consider the fact that he played with a knock most of the second half.

After Onazi went down, his mobility reduced. That did not stop the Algerians from fouling him repeatedly.

So they made honest view of his performance but did not consider the factors. I doubt that is hatred.
I believe it is hatred. If Mikel or any other player took one for the team like Onazi did and got injured as a result, everybody would have given him Kudos.
Onazi hardly got a mention for his heroics rather he was thrown under the bus for not marking 3 Algerians on the rampage prior to the goal.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:55am On Nov 13, 2016
blueto:
I have really respected you because of your great profundity and expertise in football analyses, and to be honest, I even started to ditch my opinion that Iheanacho was better playing behind a top striker because of your erstwhile analyses that depicted contrary. But his performance against the Algerians was glaring, and I have made a resolute verdict that he is better playing behind a top striker. He is a fabulous poacher when he is behind, he positions perfectly for passes to come inside the box and delivers lethal strikes. Those coruscating goals he scored in UAE were scored as an attacking midfielder.

Speaking on team praises and personal accolades, although a player's interest ought to be subordinated to the team's interest. but I will also say that both goes together. The team's goal in that encounter was to win the match, and if it took the brilliant and terrific performance of Iheanacho for them to achieve such goal then what stops them from welcoming it??

Lets say that Moses picked up an injury prior to the match and hence, he was omitted from the squad, then who would have been the marksman against Algeria with Iheanacho's attempts curtailed as the top striker by the Algerians? Iwobi cannot be relied upon now as a consistent goalscorer.

Iheanacho is versatile as an attacking player no doubt, but if you want to get the best of him, then play him behind a top striker.
Am quite shocked it took the performance against Algeria for you guys to understand what some of us have been saying for over a year now.
Better late than never anyway.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mikron(m): 11:01am On Nov 13, 2016
optional1:







Mikron dont mind my hubby ooo he jst leave me cos of recession oooo after this hard am sure he wil come begging...

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how did u see our victory ystdy?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:04am On Nov 13, 2016
krattoss:
that was really provocative and uncalled for..

I remember pundits warning neymar of his antics and provocative dribbles.. u saw how one malaga defender elbowed him when he was try ing to nutmeg the dude..

many players can do plenty of skills for showoffs.. but when it comes to business.. u gats respect u'r opponents..

I agree with u but here's a secret some players get away with it and some don't. Messi nutmegs who he wants when he wants and not a word is said, people just don't like Neymar as a personality. Iwobi is ur regular boy next door, u won't even believe he would do such a thing.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mikron(m): 11:12am On Nov 13, 2016
enomakos:
just because we beat them 3-0 in a friendly,you are saying we gonna beat them home and away?
When last did the super eagle beat cameroun at home?
bros if u watch football and have the ability to read games like i do u will know the indomitable lions of cameroun of 2dy is not the feared camerounian team of the era of the etoo's, geremi njitap, rigobert song, etame mayer, patrick mboma, pierre wome, Timotée Atouba, Pius N'Diefi, the late Marc-Vivien Foé, Salomon Olembé just to mention a few, this present camerounian team na wash, they cant attack, they are no more the lions we know them to be. aside vincent Aboubaka and moukandjo, i see no other threat. on the other hand, the super eagles are gradually working their way back to the summit of African football with a lot of deadly and bright tallents opposing teams should be wary of. we go beat them home and away. i rest my case

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 11:28am On Nov 13, 2016
goldfish80:

Am quite shocked it took the performance against Algeria for you guys to understand what some of us have been saying for over a year now.
Better late than never anyway.
I did maintain the idea that he was better as an attacking midfielder, but something I trust coaches decisions to make him lead an attack, I think it is because iheanacho must have impressed them in trainings playing in such position, but general I don't like when a player's incipient position is changed, it doesn't make much sense to me.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mikron(m): 11:28am On Nov 13, 2016
The falconets of Nigeria playing rubbish presently against japan under 20 female national side at this ongoing world cup, what did peter dedevbo tell his girls, why are they playing this bad? no ball control. cant string 2 passes together, always ballooning the balls away instead of holding the ball, make good short passes, and work ur way towards the opponets goal, such a waste, rasheedat Ajibade is not finding it easy either, the whole team is playing bad. 2-0 down in the 1st half, and conceeding another 3 goals in the 2nd half presently, and its just 62 minutes played, 5-0 down. what a calamity, and this girls will later play canada (beaten 5-0 by spain in the opening match) and then meeting spain (5-0 winners over Canada.) we should prepare to come bck home, just like the under 17 female team to the just concluded world cup, we lack bite, no eye for goals, no good passes, lack confidence and the list goes on. bala nkiyu and peter dedevbo are tactically bankkrupt, clueless and bereft of ideas, and appears to be lost most of the time. i dey vex abeg.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Jefersoun: 11:32am On Nov 13, 2016
BascoVanVeli:
I blame supersports for not showing the replay of Akpeyi's freekick save. The score was 2-1 then.
God bless you for that observation, that was a world class save. But we would not see that one, except errors by him.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mikron(m): 11:35am On Nov 13, 2016
terzurum5:

Oga Mikron I trowey plenty gbadu 4 u.

How did you enjoy our game yesterday.

But wait ooooo. On a serious note, these Algerians really studies our script very well. They never allowed Etebo to roll with the ball. They kept bullying him any time he was on the ball.
Na wa
dont mind them, obviously they forgot to study victor moses's script as well, their coach georges leekens foolishly told them to cage iheanacho and iwobi and they will have an easy sail, forgetting we have other potent threats, they didnt understand what hit them ystdy. hahaha. if we play to our strength as a top team that we are in Africa i do not see Algeria or any other team stopping us, my brother, always remember THE LAND IS GREEN

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:39am On Nov 13, 2016
goldfish80:

I gave Onazi top marks for putting his career on the line by taking that bang to deny the Algerians. He got injured as a result of that gash but still soldiered on.
It was clear his level dropped notch after that injury.
It wasn't like he was average prior to that. You may not notice but he was partly the reason why Algeria didn't trouble our defence and goalkeeper in the first half.
Algeria couldn't link the ball to Slimani from the midfield because onazi extinguished and intercepted their moves once they got close to our final third.
Rewatch the match, this time without tension to understand what am saying.

I have rewatched the match and I still don't get your point. The Algerians had 3 clear cut chances arising from Onazi's inabilities. The first one was because he couldn't even keep up with Brahimi who wipped in a cross that was put over. The second one, Mahrez had all the time to shoot inside our box and our 'DMF' wasn't closing him down at all. We were not troubled because of Etebo's engine, Onazi was average or even below that. If you gave Akpeyi a 7 rating for one mistake which was actually caused by Onazi's mistake, then Onazi should get a 6 maximum
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mikron(m): 11:39am On Nov 13, 2016
DEATHMACHINE:
grin grin dstv must pay for making me miss the first 25min of that match .
dont mind them, i was so frustrated, thank God they were able to rectify the problem
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mikron(m): 11:43am On Nov 13, 2016
81'' falconets now trailing by a whooping 6-0. japanese mami ueno getting a hat-trick. devdebo......................... chaiiiiii there is God oooooo
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:43am On Nov 13, 2016
mikron:
bros if u watch football and have the ability to read games like i do u will know the indomitable lions of cameroun of 2dy is not the feared camerounian team of the era of the etoo's, geremi njitap, rigobert song, etame mayer, patrick mboma, pierre wome, Timotée Atouba, Pius N'Diefi, the late Marc-Vivien Foé, Salomon Olembé just to mention a few, this present camerounian team na wash, they cant attack, they are no more the lions we know them to be. aside vincent Aboubaka and moukandjo, i see no other threat. on the other hand, the super eagles are gradually working their way back to the summit of African football with a lot of deadly and bright tallents opposing teams should be wary of. we go beat them home and away. i rest my case

Bros,you need to watch Cameroon matches. Against Zambia, it was a draw because of how good the Zambian keeper, with anyother keeper it would have been 5-1 or more. Cameroon outplayed Algeria too so they are not pushovers

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mikron(m): 11:53am On Nov 13, 2016
Mickael2:


Bros,you need to watch Cameroon matches. Against Zambia, it was a draw because of how good the Zambian keeper, with anyother keeper it would have been 5-1 or more. Cameroon outplayed Algeria too so they are not pushovers
i watched that match for an hour (from 4pm to 5pm) before our match kicked off, i still maintain my stand, Cameroon na wash. aside aboubakar upfront, nobody strikes for them, remember alex song no longer plays for Cameroon. we will defeat them
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:56am On Nov 13, 2016
Mickael2:


I have rewatched the match and I still don't get your point. The Algerians had 3 clear cut chances arising from Onazi's inabilities. The first one was because he couldn't even keep up with Brahimi who wipped in a cross that was put over. The second one, Mahrez had all the time to shoot inside our box and our 'DMF' wasn't closing him down at all. We were not troubled because of Etebo's engine, Onazi was average or even below that. If you gave Akpeyi a 7 rating for one mistake which was actually caused by Onazi's mistake, then Onazi should get a 6 maximum

that was Etebo not Onazi on the goal.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mikron(m): 11:58am On Nov 13, 2016
full time Nigeria 0-6 Japan. these girls just spoil person mind this beautiful Sunday morning, in our sports ministers voice "WHO SENT THEM THERE"
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:59am On Nov 13, 2016
mikron:
i watched that match for an hour (from 4pm to 5pm) before our match kicked off, i still maintain my stand, Cameroon na wash. aside aboubakar upfront, nobody strikes for them, remember alex song no longer plays for Cameroon. we will defeat them

EVEN IF CAMEROON LOSES 100 MATCHES THEY WILL NEVER BE WASH AGAINST NIGERIA.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:03pm On Nov 13, 2016
BascoVanVeli:


that was Etebo not Onazi on the goal.

Etebo?! Etebo is our box to box, you don't expect to see him there all the time. That was entirely on Onazi and there is no argument there at all
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:05pm On Nov 13, 2016
Mickael2:


I have rewatched the match and I still don't get your point. The Algerians had 3 clear cut chances arising from Onazi's inabilities. The first one was because he couldn't even keep up with Brahimi who wipped in a cross that was put over. The second one, Mahrez had all the time to shoot inside our box and our 'DMF' wasn't closing him down at all. We were not troubled because of Etebo's engine, Onazi was average or even below that. If you gave Akpeyi a 7 rating for one mistake which was actually caused by Onazi's mistake, then Onazi should get a 6 maximum

Let's run a bit of tactical analysis on the two actions you pointed out shall we...


The first picture shows Onazi engaging Brahimi while Omeruo who should be closer to action was a few paces behind Onazi and Brahimi. Brahimi time and time again as we have seen over the years will out pace most defenders and DMs in a foot race.


The second picture shows Onazi very close to action again. Elderson should have been the guy charging on Mahrez but he was down, Onazi tried to cover for him, in doing so, Mikel would have marked Benteleb.
Lucky enough Mahrez didn't pass the ball to Brahimi who was in hectares of space offered him with Iwobi's loose marking.

Funny enough, the much heralded Etebo was not in the picture in the two actions analysed.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mikron(m): 12:21pm On Nov 13, 2016
BascoVanVeli:


EVEN IF CAMEROON LOSES 100 MATCHES THEY WILL NEVER BE WASH AGAINST NIGERIA.
basco u go see am na. next year no far
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:23pm On Nov 13, 2016
Mickael2:


Bros,you need to watch Cameroon matches. Against Zambia, it was a draw because of how good the Zambian keeper, with anyother keeper it would have been 5-1 or more. Cameroon outplayed Algeria too so they are not pushovers
In the few minutes I watched the game, I saw, control, skill and confidence in the Cameroonian side. I believe we have a stronger side but the Cameroonians did not look like pushovers to me.

In those closing minutes, the Zambian goalkeeper pulled off two beautiful saves and the Zambians parked the bus throughout I watched the game.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:26pm On Nov 13, 2016
goldfish80:


Let's run a bit of tactical analysis on the two actions you pointed out shall we...


The first picture shows Onazi engaging Brahimi while Omeruo who should be closer to action was a few paces behind Onazi and Brahimi. Brahimi time and time again as we have seen over the years will out pace most defenders and DMs in a foot race.


The second picture shows Onazi very close to action again. Elderson should have been the guy charging on Mahrez but he was down, Onazi tried to cover for him, in doing so, Mikel would have marked Benteleb.
Lucky enough Mahrez didn't pass the ball to Brahimi who was in hectares of space offered him with Iwobi's loose marking.

Funny enough, the much heralded Etebo was not in the picture in the two actions analysed.


what you said here makes absolutely zero sense.

In the first instance, Omeruo was out of position because we were attacking, it was a mistake by Iheanacho don't forget, what is the work of a DMF? They cover for fullbacks when they attack and Onazi failed woefully there, so we should clap for him that he was roundly beaten by Brahimi? He didn't do his job there.
In the second one, I don't even understand what you said. Echejile went to cover for Balogun who went to cover for Ekong and they were able to block the first strike before the ball fell to Mahrez in a central role, whose job is it to cover the space infront of the defenders? Is it not the CB? The ball was inside our box, the AMF in such a position will cover the front of the box not the inside of it. If this happened in a setup like Barca, so you will say that Iniesta should be there? Isn't that Busquet's zone? Can't understand your bias at all

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:30pm On Nov 13, 2016
goldfish80:


Let's run a bit of tactical analysis on the two actions you pointed out shall we...


The first picture shows Onazi engaging Brahimi while Omeruo who should be closer to action was a few paces behind Onazi and Brahimi. Brahimi time and time again as we have seen over the years will out pace most defenders and DMs in a foot race.


The second picture shows Onazi very close to action again. Elderson should have been the guy charging on Mahrez but he was down, Onazi tried to cover for him, in doing so, Mikel would have marked Benteleb.
Lucky enough Mahrez didn't pass the ball to Brahimi who was in hectares of space offered him with Iwobi's loose marking.

Funny enough, the much heralded Etebo was not in the picture in the two actions analysed.


what was Onazi doing in that second goal? Echejile was down because they blocked the first shot, what was Onazi doing at the left side of defence?! You have a LB and a LCB and both were charging the ball, for God's sake maintain your own position closer to the edge of the box
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 12:30pm On Nov 13, 2016
I remember saying on this thread, when the formation came out that Kelechi cannot play as a lone striker.

Well, we've seen that. He's least effective in that role, hopefully, Rohr can play him behind Etebo or with Etebo in the next match. No one has to be dropped from this team

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