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| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 7:28am On Nov 22, 2016 |
Gboyee4fun:Does it change anything. Who ordained your own pastor? Who ordained the pastor you will call ordained your own pastor? Quit this balderdash or ordainments. Calling your bs now means am also an atheist. |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by chrmn1: 7:31am On Nov 22, 2016 |
How would a loving God cast his creatures to hell? This question is similar to the one people ask when a loved one dies: why would God allow my sister die? You see friends, people have wrongly made God responsible for death but this notion couldn't be any further from the truth. The bible records that when Moses died, an entity went ahead to claim him. Also it records that Satan held people hostage after their death Jesus dying was simply providing an escape route to the natural destiny of sinful man.the soul of man was already corrupted and so Satan laid claim to everyone who left these shores. Salvation was offered as an escape route from an impossible situation. Rev Kenneth Hagin of blessed memory once detailed how he was transcending these shores to a place of darkness and he was overpowered by dark, strong, hideous beings but miraculously got delivered when a voice sounded that shattered the dark beings. God despises death as much as He does people bound in hades by dark forces but people have erroneously given God the credit for this as they have done all other ills in rhe world |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by hopefulLandlord: 7:31am On Nov 22, 2016 |
nelsonoba:
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| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by felixomor: 7:32am On Nov 22, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:Pls tell that to Pastafarian and MrIronCock, your other fake atheist monikers....... That u use in deluding yourself out of your atheist loneliness. ... Pls shift... I forgot to also mention ColdHardTruth, Wow, notorious. |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by hopefulLandlord: 7:33am On Nov 22, 2016 |
chrmn1:except the death of a human slave who survive more than two days after being mortally beaten by his/her master
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| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by MzMercie: 7:34am On Nov 22, 2016 |
I understand OP's questions about God, I always ask those questions too without getting answers, I mean answers not just some fables or story. But d answers were revealed to me, not in d dream or while reading d Bible or praying. The problem with most so called Christians is fear. Fear of devil, death, poverty, hell fire, witches etc led many into Christianity. Many people even see faith has fear. But thats not Christianity. I work for an organization that help people. During the course of my work, the Holy Spirit revealed the answers to my questions. See, we humans especially we, Nigerians are lazy when it comes to intelligent thinking. God created us, gave us all we need to survive, but we tend not to open our thinking faculty, to reason how we can make use of all what God has blessed us with. We rely on Him to still come down and do our part for us. That's why poverty is the order of the day. There was a time, I was not happy wit any poor person I met, u tell them to do something that will change their lives for d better, they won't change, dey will give a lame excuse, they prefer to use old methods at this new age. U can't put a new wine, in an old wine skin, the old wine skin will burst, thereby wasting d new wine. Humans are so hard to convince when it comes to changing their mindsets. Tell them its one family curse or devil at work, they are so ready to accept. OP, poor people will still remain on earth, everybody can't be rich or wealthy. For example, u are d boss of ur company, u give give ur staff everything they to work, but dey failed to use those resources, u give lots of warning, instructions etc. But they were still adamant. Will u still keep them at ur work? That is what God is doing in the lives of many people today. Many people, especially Christians must know that God is not a magician. Miracles are real but not everyone will experience it. U asked how will God send those who do not believe to hell, considering their numbers. God's master plan is for us to enjoy this world, but since sin entered the world, He gave us the free will to choose between life and death. God is not a wicked God. That's why Jesus commissioned us to preach the gospel to everyone. For example, u r a boss. U give certain instructions to ur staff, no matter d love u av for them, if they keep on disobeying, a time will come that u will sack them. Those that make u a wicked boss? My brother, no matter how vast u r in d word of God, how fervent u r in ur service to God, if u allow head knowledge in some of ur questions, u wont get the solution. Answers to some questions like the ones u asked may not be answered by God immediately. U need to be patient with him. It took years before I got my answers too, now am satisfied and believes in the existence of God. Go back to Him, am sure He will answer u, but it might not be immediately. If u ask Him now that u doubt His existence, u might not answers. U can't be far from Him and expect Him to answer u. Remember, God has use the foolish things of this world to confound the wise. Also, the foolishness of God is wisdom of men. God bless you sir. |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by hopefulLandlord: 7:34am On Nov 22, 2016 |
felixomor:let the butthurt flow some more |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by felixomor: 7:36am On Nov 22, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:Nah, u r the one who has just been exposed. You are the one who needs butthurt therapy. |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by hopefulLandlord: 7:37am On Nov 22, 2016 |
felixomor:let it flow through you some more |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by felixomor: 7:39am On Nov 22, 2016 |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by nothernstar: 7:40am On Nov 22, 2016 |
Even in bible, there is freedom of choice but all choice and actions must be accounted for. Your choice your life |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by hopefulLandlord: 7:41am On Nov 22, 2016 |
felixomor:yes yes let it flow through you a bit more |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by raphieMontella: 7:42am On Nov 22, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:i can say that for your irrelevant muscular words... You want to take the idea that because no one opened a thread because of it..therefore it didnt change anybody's belief...thats purely fallacious... Heck,guests are prevelant on this forum... Heck not everyone who de-converts creates a thread for it .. Or Are you ominiscient? ideas of your religion are becoming preponderant on your thinking Jainism and Buddhism are religions and their adherents are atheists , they are religious atheists . There are also the Jewish and Christian atheists . Atheism is the rejection of gods not religion . Deists and panentheists who acknowledge the existence of God are not religious.whats that about atheists having 16 percent of the worlds populace again? I see it way above 25 percent..do you really want play this card? You're just rambling do you know that? Heck you didnt bother to check the article.. here is a page on the journal which shows that disbelief in God was a function of the study...you might wanna download the [url=www.go.galegroup.com/ps/anonymous?id=GALE%7CA211061622&sid=googleScholar&v=2.1&it=r&linkaccess=fulltext&issn=10639330&p=AONE&sw=w&authCount=1&isAnonymousEntry=true]FULL DOCUMENT[/url] and check how twas done.. Before you draw your silly hasty conclusions NOTEwhen you click on the second hyperlink..it will say ''error''..sorry to bust your excitement tho [color=green]here is another article which shows that atheists have higher IQ's than your religious friends.. NOTE:This one was done on DISELIEF IN GOD and was drawn from OFFICIAL SOURCES [color=Navyblue]Many studies have proved this..atheism has a positive co-relation with intelligence bro!..dont sweat it...facts are facts[/color] Click on this and do the math : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nonreligious_Nobel_laureateslol..this is silly.. You expect me to take the names one by one and count them? I was expecting a nobel prize journal which adds credence to your statements..or a scientific journal or something...if you dont have one...then drop your ridiculous notion Medieval Catholic mathematicians and philosophers such as John Buridan, Nicole Oresme and Roger Bacon were founders of modern sciencei dont know what you mean by ''founders''...you're a bit vague there...wanna elucidate? Founders can be different from only founders...so be less vague..so i can take your ludicrous assertions down The father of computers , Charles Babbage , was a Christian.the father of modern computers, is an atheist;Konrad zuse..so? Hebetude ?you're making a conclusion by trying to reduce facts to an absurd stance... Adherents of Jainism , Buddhism , Jewish atheism , Christian atheism are atheists1)adressed above.. 2)Also are you ready to choose a stand of a definition of atheism/irreligiousity we're going to work on? I dont like someone jumping from tree to tree.. 3)we dont call buddhists atheists do we? Per general terms? Read and understand : http://www.livescience.com/50370-worlds-religious-population-will-grow.htmloutright dishonesty.. Let me make what i said clear again.. no...your own source says..atheists will increase in NUMBERS... was the world 8billion 32 years ago?...and your link buttresses the bolded... So whats the fuss? Elucidate or ''die'' |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 7:43am On Nov 22, 2016 |
theres no way around it ,a creator exists ,good and evil exists ,life and death exists ..yes we would never understand pre historic events and what realy happend we might come up with differenr theories but we still wont know for sure.so rather than doubt Gods existance i think you should be very afraid instead for a God to destroy those pre historic and acient civilization who were obviosly more advanced than we would ever be ..leaving just very little proof of thier existance for us to see eg tbe pyramids of giza ,those large drawings that can only be seen from planes(forgotten the name) etc...instead of wasting mb and money on confusing and wierd utube vids .make cool cash in bitcoins click my signature and you might just start believing in God again when you smilling to the bank ...... peace |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by IamProfessorval(m): 7:43am On Nov 22, 2016 |
donnffd:Pop corn and pepsi? Haba Bros, which village are you from? |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by felixomor: 7:43am On Nov 22, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:LooooooooooLz ![]() By the way, if u r interested in borrowing some shame, just alert me. At least some millions of people more, just discovered your fraud. Cheers ![]() |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by longerthroat(m): 7:43am On Nov 22, 2016 |
you have not made any point... |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Howmon: 7:44am On Nov 22, 2016 |
Which brother died of fasting reated complication in CACCF in 2010? I finished from FUTA in 2010 I did not get such a report. Which brother? HardMirror: |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by hopefulLandlord: 7:45am On Nov 22, 2016 |
felixomor:don't fight the butthurt let it flow some more |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by segcymoor(m): 7:50am On Nov 22, 2016 |
Hmmmm |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by chrmn1: 7:52am On Nov 22, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:Hi, you can quote all you want but I'll give you a hint of the circumstances in which God gave Moses this law. Matthew 19:8 gives the context in which these laws were crafted. It reads thus: Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. Note the words, 'because of the hardness of your hearts.' There were certain customs the Jews practiced and we're stubborn to a fault. God giving them a regulation to live by was Him doing what we call damage control today. He says 'from the beginning it was not so' meaning they chose to live in certain ways but God wouldn't give up on them but still tried to work out a way of fellowshiping with them despite them set in their evil ways. |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Mpanyi: 8:02am On Nov 22, 2016*. Modified: 8:20am On Nov 22, 2016 |
HardMirror:can say was your understanding of the scripture was shallow. for it was deep, you'd know that grace through the same Christ will make people that don't believe in Christ to be judged by their conscience, even though not many Christians know this. And for condmning one to hellfire because of sin, as 'small as a lie'means you don't understand details about sins, and above God's mercy, punishment, justice, and prerogative of mercy. I'm seeing in you someone that believed in Christ out of fear. Meanwhile no matter what you believe, your conscience will justify or condemn you.. My Lord and Savior made it known God's laws have been written on people's conscience. For me that's basic code of conduct God put in man for an orderly world. So bro, you look like someone who was in prison when you a Christian because you didn't really love God and somehow you found escapism in how God will judge others that don't believe in Christ, without knowing God will judge them based on their conscience. |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by hopefulLandlord: 8:06am On Nov 22, 2016*. Modified: 8:25am On Nov 22, 2016 |
chrmn1:I like when Christian apologists go round and round to defend their imaginary Jewish god damage control? is that not the same god that reportedly flooded the whole world years down the line? |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by chrmn1: 8:11am On Nov 22, 2016 |
I have a proof that the universe came about all by itself. Scientific proof by the way. It happened many many many years ago (in the head of someone). I give you 12 billion years, you cannot find out how the earth came about. Ever heard of infinite recess? If you say it all started from point X, the next question is did point X just come on the scene? That's why I love these debates, some people claim you cannot get some answers by scientific research, some say you can get all the answers through scientific enquiry but struggle over what is supposed to be a simple question. Yes I mean the age long question - how did it all start?? |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by donnffd(m): 8:12am On Nov 22, 2016 |
IamProfessorval:Look well at the cans, you should find it
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| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by freecocoa(f): 8:12am On Nov 22, 2016 |
Sugarhugs:Really? But what can you do about it but whine? Absolutely nothing, hahaha. ![]() |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Gboyee4fun(m): 8:17am On Nov 22, 2016 |
ollah1:lol, stop being ignorance, I answered your question and I asked you a question, who said you are an atheist? I asked a question which you need to answer. it changes a lot, he mentioned like two great man which he need to go and confronts after he encounter the light of atheism, instead of him bragging on Nairaland |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by chrmn1: 8:22am On Nov 22, 2016 |
[quote author=Mpanyi post=51256839][/quote]No! The best God did was allow Jesus die. God is a righteous judge. People must understand that. Just picture a scenario where a judge has got to make decision at the court of law where books are open and there are parties that are ready to point out injustice by the Judge. He says the best God did was to send people preaching but how far from the truth can that be. He paid a legal ransome on our behalf and says, if you don't want your soul to be taken over, here's the way. Simples! Number two God will not perish a soul because he told a small lie. No one but God the judge knows who'll major it and who wouldn't. The bible records the time of giving of rewards that some would be rewarded handsomely but some others will get little reward and some will escape fire by a hairs breadth so to say. |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 8:24am On Nov 22, 2016 |
Gboyee4fun:U didn't ask a question. Is the forum meant for just Christians and Atheists? You r the one who should stop been ignorant |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by chrmn1: 8:29am On Nov 22, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:that was the best thing He could do. The creatures that pervaded the earth were not mere humans but a mix of demonic and man as recorded in scriptures. He didn't have anything to loose as the world was filled with violence and wickedness and those creatures dominated the world, were pervading the earth rather swiftly whilst killing the human race at will |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Gboyee4fun(m): 8:30am On Nov 22, 2016 |
ollah1:lol, see this guy sha, who are you simple? atheist, confuse Christian, Muslim or who? be sure of yourself Mr man, even the owner of nairaland boldly says he's an atheist....what's ur faith bro, i need to know whom I'm talking too |
| Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by hopefulLandlord: 8:32am On Nov 22, 2016 |
ollah1:interesting!! |
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I understand OP's questions about God, I always ask those questions too without getting answers, I mean answers not just some fables or story. 
