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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by hopefulLandlord: 8:34am On Nov 22, 2016 |
chrmn1: exactly!! but bent over for them in the issue of slavery the same slavery that made him kill all Egyptian firstborn sons?
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Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by raphieMontella: 8:36am On Nov 22, 2016 |
Caseless:its in the hadith...not the quran. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by TDIsaac(m): 8:48am On Nov 22, 2016 |
First I want to say that if anyone believes there is no God, do you also believe there is no devil? With all the evil, wickedness, ritual killings etc will you say there is no satanic influence in this world? Now if you agree there is evil how do you think human race will survive if there is no God to sustain the human race? Secondly it is more logical to believe that the initial belief of past generations that there is a supreme God is okay to accept and that it is now that people are rejecting Him than to think that the past generations have been wrong and it is now people are getting it right. All the things written about God in the bible could not have been from human thoughts but divinely inspired. Finally, with all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the bible, don't you think this world would have been a far better place if everyone lives as a genuine Christian with Christlike life of love, kindness, sacrifice and devoid of wickedness or selfishness. Also if u live your life as a born again christian and after death you find out there is no God, do you think you lose anything? You would have lost absolutely nothing but gained comfort, hope, peace and joyful life. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by chrmn1: 8:52am On Nov 22, 2016 |
I am moved to write and write I will. The greatest challenge God faces with redeeming mankind and making the world perfect is the He has to do it with imperfect man. Believe it or not there are people God has gifted to do miracles, signs and wonders. And I'm not talking about just gift of word of knowledge that the OP seemed to have (I do not belittle this gift), im talking about healings upon healings to hundreds and thousands. If a Smith Wigglesworth or a Kenneth Hagan or an Archbishop Benson Idaho said or a Kathryn Kulhman renounced their faith, I would pause and be shocked but not one who's major gift was word of knowledge which he could have mixed with guesses and clues. People have been crippled but rose again by this Power. People have received their sights. My cousin was missing (was kidnapped) for 15 months but God told me that he was not dead when people in the family began to admit that he might be dead. You say God doesn't speak but He told me that my cousin was in the North and a day later gave me an idea by dropping a strategy in my heart which when we put to use, brought my cousin back after 1 year and 3 months. Sometimes God separates men to do certain things in the world but they go astray because of money, women and sometimes power. I know you think God is wicked but have you ever thought about the fact that even Jesus, in His majesty, does cry? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Bandeco(m): 8:55am On Nov 22, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:Hahahaha.. Hopefulandlord finish this subdued "intellectuals". Mr. God, if he or she or it exist, is the most nasty and vilaineous character ever known to humanity. Mr. Hitler will chuckle at Mr. God's malevolence |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by VcStunner(m): 9:00am On Nov 22, 2016 |
musicwriter:I think I buy your argument more than any other description of a "God". It's actually the misconception itself that has led most people to believe that you don't have to use your "higher self" to help humanity rather you are advised to be very foolish so you can find favor from infinite intelligence (God or whatever you feel better with). This singular attitude is the only explanation as to why nations who take the holy books literally have progressed more than others.. 2 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 9:25am On Nov 22, 2016 |
adextetoo:pls share it so i can follow yours |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by chrmn1: 9:27am On Nov 22, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:and I'll give you the response I gave you earlier. Just like with divorce, it never says God supports or approves of slavery. I'll quote that passage again paraphrased: 'I allowed you to divorce because it was something you wanted to do but it was not my plan but yours.' If I marry a 13 year old girl today, the best God can do for me is give me rules to live with her harmoniously, he'll never by Himself dissolve the marriage even though He doesn't approve of it personally. I wish I could use a better analogy let's do with this one. 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 9:31am On Nov 22, 2016 |
@hardmirror. For over 40pages i have not seen an update of your story. Are you dones or is there a new thread. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 9:32am On Nov 22, 2016 |
HardMirror:noted |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by bencarson007(m): 9:37am On Nov 22, 2016 |
HardMirror: I feel sorry for you Hardmirror abi na Badmirror be ur name...even Seun is better than you...He is reasonable...you are not (no offense...I see ur posts) Your mind is so closed and your eyes so blind that you have refused to see...(Again no offense) I have just one question for you...what is ur belief? Stop castigating others when they try to talk to others reasonably...(Advice) Have you asked yourself how you woke up this morning and others of ur age group breathed their last? Do you think ur alarm clock did it...please put it close to a dead body and see... Have you asked yourself what makes you concious as a human ? Have you asked yourself how you know that you are you... What do you believe...some baseless theories about God not existing and u being a master of ur fate...or what ? Well I have just one sentence for you...'...the fool says in his heart that there is no God...' 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 9:43am On Nov 22, 2016 |
solite3:hmm thats it... |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by chrmn1: 9:47am On Nov 22, 2016 |
No matter how people try to make light work of miracles, signs and wonders, you cannot dispute their credibility. I mean does psychology have what it takes to make a crippled man walk again. Have you been to crusades to see people on wheelchairs give up their wheelchairs and begin to walk. These things are documented so can they all be fake? It's easy for an atheist to sit in his home and discount miraculous happenings but that is not even a scientific thing to do. Why not go out there to the crusade ground and do your investigative journalism there? I would respect an atheist that does this more than the one that just says, 'it's all lies'. Now you say why dont these men of God just go to the streets and cure the mad Men? You forget that it's a gift. It's not like they have a factory where the produce miracles, the gift or the anointing just drops on them and they begin to do the impossible. Some have described it like a cloak coming over them (and I'm not referring to some good feeling/goosebumps we all have when praying and singing nicely). It's the anointing of the Spirit of God. It's a gift and it is given by the giver 'as He deems fit' or 'as He wills' as per King James Translation of the Bible. I want to write and write I will 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Gift101(m): 9:47am On Nov 22, 2016 |
santori: The word ATHIEST... lol Brother, do you know that whoever is not of God is of the Devil ? In this life it's either you're in light or you're in darkness If you say you're not of God and you're not of the Devil, you're a liar because whoever is not of God is of the Devil. Athiest you all are of the devil. Anyone dat doesn't support God or the fact that he's existing is of the Devil. Seun repent and come back to God. 1 Like 3 Shares |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 9:49am On Nov 22, 2016 |
chrmn1: Have you EVER seen any of those same pastors that healed people in crusades and co, go into hospitals to perform same healing? no. Cos they know they can't do that. It's all arranged when it's a crusade. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by engrelvis(m): 9:51am On Nov 22, 2016 |
Y r satanic worshippers r so obsess in convincing people DAT there is no God or God is weak. U know y ?dey r afraid. Satan is always counterfeiting God. 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by OLAFIMIX(f): 9:52am On Nov 22, 2016 |
Am not surprise, this is one of the signs of end time. 'Blasphemy' Revelation 13: 1-10 talks about this. That beast is at work, Christians beware. 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by sirvvy: 9:54am On Nov 22, 2016 |
I have been a guest for awhile on this forum, so i decided to open an account because of this thread.. Well, many people are getting it all wrong, a clear example is the SCAFFOLD and the PILLAR. When a house is built , the scaffold are used as a temporal support to the building so that's how some Christians are , they start off all strong but with time when their faith is tested some succumb. The Pillar on the other side is the permanent Support in the building, this set of Christians are also tested but they overcome. what i wrote might not make sense to some people but a friend told this to me and i actually thought of it and it made sense to me.. The gospel is not forced to everyone but a choice. HEAVEN IS REAL !! #my2cents 3 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by hopefulLandlord: 9:55am On Nov 22, 2016 |
engrelvis: you must think you've made a lot of sense |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by engrelvis(m): 10:00am On Nov 22, 2016 |
Christainity is nt about man.is about yr personal relationships with God.tru d holy spirit he talks to u n direct u.when I was an undergraduate I WS a free thinker.I read spiritual books in quest to acquire knowledge .n came to d conclusion it is when u dabble into d devil domain (occult)DAT is when he will have influence on u. 2 Likes |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by engrelvis(m): 10:05am On Nov 22, 2016 |
Y r satanic worshippers r so obsess in convincing people DAT there is no God or God is weak. U know y ?dey r afraid. Satan is always counterfeiting God. 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Nobody: 10:06am On Nov 22, 2016 |
engrelvis: Some times I wonder.. why does Satan want to win more souls even when Jesus has commanded that many will go to hell , few will Enter heaven.. Are we not few enough to be Christians ?? don't they have many sinners captive already?? 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by uvalued(m): 10:07am On Nov 22, 2016 |
HardMirror: is this not a contradiction HardMirror: 1 Like |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by TomHagen: 10:10am On Nov 22, 2016 |
Again? |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by chrmn1: 10:11am On Nov 22, 2016 |
masonkz:It's you that thinks they don't. That's your assumption. Ever heard the term, 'hospital visitation' before? The only thing I cannot guarantee is who will get healed and who will not because it's a gift and they are only mediums of channeling that gift. I witnessed one while in school (was an outreach member). It was a kidney problem. Not an instant miracle but a miracle nonetheless. Kenneth Hagin has written a lot about healings performed in hospitals. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by HardMirror(m): 10:11am On Nov 22, 2016 |
uvalued:No it is not. I use the speaking in tongues for the therapeutic effect it has on my mind and thinking. Not as a prayer. |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by gabe: 10:12am On Nov 22, 2016 |
Christians..using witches, demons,devil and he'll to whip adherents in line since forever... |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Caseless: 10:39am On Nov 22, 2016 |
raphieMontella:an authentic hadith ? |
Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will Never Be A Christian Again by Caseless: 10:40am On Nov 22, 2016 |
Sugarhugs:sugar rush ! |
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