Caseless:
this physical and spiritual journey was it done on a horse?

uvalued:


hardmirror has shown that miracles are real...speaking in tongues are real..... the christian supernatural is real.... this are all christian truths that he has verified but felt that just becos a similar can be replicated by magicians, therefore it is false...moses and the magician on stick turning to snakes.... comes to.mind.

hopefulLandlord:




I tire for them o!

they're being held in the shackles of religion by FEAR

the one thing keeping theists in line

damogul:



Thank God the thread was pushed to the FP a second time at least everyone can also see the lies as they have been seeing already.

Naijadeyhia, this thread has NEVER hit front-page before!!

see why I said you calling people a chronic liar is possibly a game of psychological projection?

It appears you're a chronic liar yourself but call other people liars in order to feel a bit more comfortable about your lying

your words should not be taken seriously

if you tell me its raining, I have to go out and check if its true

its funny how you thanked your imaginary friend in this post of yours, you thanked him for a LIE

4 different people "shared" your post which makes even much more people see this post of yours, you have not only told a lie but inadvertently spread the lie to ignorant folks

its okay to lie anyways, so long you're doing it for Jesus

what amazes me is how easy it is for you to lie, if you're not a conman already, I advice you give it a try, that seems to be your calling

HardMirror:

It has never been on front page. You see how you folks lie?

Bandeco:

Utter piffle. This is the reason religion ought to be banned. Just crazy

Naijacitizen:


No. What I am saying is Johndon22 may be mistaken saying it is in horse instead.

Most non-Muslim are not getting their knowledge about Islam from Quran and Hadith. Rather relying on anti-Muslim website or a site that claimed to be owned Muslim. This is why they never get the true picture of Islam.

raphieMontella:

yes..

Bhaelarkush:
this is my say on this

my father died during last year's pilgrimage.He risked his health,his job,his family..he sacrificed his time..he spent money for a trip of no return..Just to serve a God

Caseless:
that's my point. They don't know anything about Islam.



The one below is already saying yes when I asked if it's an authentic hadith.

Seun:
Yep. This thread got so many views that I surprised and impressed when I discovered that it had never made the home page.

Ganjafama:
Mr man what do you know about satan? The writers of the Bible were trying to discredit satan
. But have you had the opportunity of hearing Satan's side of the story?can you pin point one evil satan committed in the Bible? I can pin point over a million evils your god yahweh committed in the Bible. The so-called Bible you guys are carrying up and down is just a book that was written by men like you. Those men are not more intelligent or pious than you and I.

Bhaelarkush:
this is my say on this

my father died during last year's pilgrimage.He risked his health,his job,his family..he sacrificed his time..he spent money for a trip of no return..Just to serve a God

Now tell me..is this God just? I mean are there not criminals and politicians wasting lives and yet he chose to pick my dad and other hundreds of people that travelled just to worship him


I believe there is a Supreme being..but the deities prportrayed by our religions ain't just it.

first step i took after his death was to look thoroughly in d religion i was practicing which was islam..that was when i realised i was ignorant. I believed everything i was thought hook,line and sinker without challenging my curiousity. By tge time i was thru digging up about islam,i realized that it was just an horror show built from the base of mass murders,lies,falsehood,delusion and not to mention d blood-seeking Muhammad.

then, i heard christianity was d way of life. I wasn't buying the trinity stuff cos it seemed and stil seems very absurd and unreal to me. My mom was a Christian b4 she married my dad so she didn't totally abandon it. She took me to some churches and i realized there was still worse to be seen. If u see pastors running churches like business centres.

one particular one i attended,coincidentally it was d first Sunday of d month, so i witnessed d collection of tithes. Ds pastor collected tithes,two rounds of offerings,sold prayer waters for 200 naira each saying dat if u dont get one,u won't receive testimonies in ur life. He was also stating that. members should come on Tuesday with 5100 naira for sowing seed. I was just amazed at the delusion and stupidity of such people. Imagine the pastor also saying those that have jobs should tell their employers they got a program (7-9 am)..in my mind i was like for ds buhari change?!!..time that will be used effectively for productivity and one pastor is telling his gullible followers to bring a 5100 naira to him..something they themselves can hardly spare

I was just thinking that day. Seriously people need to wake up..no God or Allah will give u money or wife. or job or anything..u av to work on yourself..thats it,rather than wasting ur hard-earned money on pastors that can't even give u a loan to start up ur business

HardMirror:
CONTINUATION...
CURIORITY and DARING TO QUESTION GOD

The christian God is regarded as a FATHER NOT a SLAVE MASTER.
I took God as my father. I discuss anything and everything with him. He was a friend I loved so much. We had a one on one relationship.
This meant I could ask God any question
I am a practical person, I don't just hear the word, I do the word.
People in the bible had chats with God and He is my father and friend so why should I not ask God questions and why should he not answer?
So ask God sincere questions

1. My Number one problem: We are to preach to all nations and make sure people don't perish
I and many christians I know were trying our absolute best to depopulate hell as fast as possible. To make sure people don't just hear the word BUT they actually get saved.
Someone asked why I pray for at least 12hours. It was because of the burden I carried. The burden of soul winning. It was terrifying that many were going to end up in hell and burn forever! if you are a christian and you believe people will end up in hell and you don't preach and try to win souls everyday YOU ARE WORSE THAN BOKO HARAM. FACT!
How can you have peace of mind and sleep at night knowing you hold the secret to eternal life in your hands and you are comfortable? How dear you buy luxuries when you can put that money into soul winning? How can you be asking God for more money, when you should pick up your bag and preach. How can you be asking God to pick up your call so you too can drive Range Rover?
It started becoming apparent that even God was a wicked God. Why?

-so he is all loving, loves humanity more than any man could ever love another man. More than an earthly father would love his son. YET God would let people perish in hell for even telling a lie no matter why you tell the lie or how small it is?


- so the best a God can do is to send humans to preach His word?

Oh wait! Seems you don't understand Jesus died in Jerusalem for the sins of the WHOLE world and If anyone dies without christ he was going to end in Hell. Wait! Do you know how many People would have died in Africa, South America, Australia, China, India, europe, before the Gospel reached them? Do you know how many people die per day?

So all these people will go to hell? The clever answer will be NO, the won't go to hell because they did not know. Oh! So if they won't go to hell because they were ignorant, why preach the gospel to them and make them informed and now if they die with the tiniest of sin without christ they end in hell. Why not leave them ignorant so their souls can be saved based on their ignorance.

How long did it take for the gospel of christ to reach the whole world? Is god truely the God of the whole world or of Jews?

It did not just add up.
This whole gospel thing started to crumble the more I thought of it.

That is just a tip of the questions I began to ask God. Of course he had no answer. The same God that reveals other peoples issues to me could not answer this.

continued here: https://www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian/17#45231153

Bhaelarkush:
this is my say on this

my father died during last year's pilgrimage.He risked his health,his job,his family..he sacrificed his time..he spent money for a trip of no return..Just to serve a God

Now tell me..is this God just? I mean are there not criminals and politicians wasting lives and yet he chose to pick my dad and other hundreds of people that travelled just to worship him


I believe there is a Supreme being..but the deities prportrayed by our religions ain't just it.

first step i took after his death was to look thoroughly in d religion i was practicing which was islam..that was when i realised i was ignorant. I believed everything i was thought hook,line and sinker without challenging my curiousity. By tge time i was thru digging up about islam,i realized that it was just an horror show built from the base of mass murders,lies,falsehood,delusion and not to mention d blood-seeking Muhammad.

then, i heard christianity was d way of life. I wasn't buying the trinity stuff cos it seemed and stil seems very absurd and unreal to me. My mom was a Christian b4 she married my dad so she didn't totally abandon it. She took me to some churches and i realized there was still worse to be seen. If u see pastors running churches like business centres.

one particular one i attended,coincidentally it was d first Sunday of d month, so i witnessed d collection of tithes. Ds pastor collected tithes,two rounds of offerings,sold prayer waters for 200 naira each saying dat if u dont get one,u won't receive testimonies in ur life. He was also stating that. members should come on Tuesday with 5100 naira for sowing seed. I was just amazed at the delusion and stupidity of such people. Imagine the pastor also saying those that have jobs should tell their employers they got a program (7-9 am)..in my mind i was like for ds buhari change?!!..time that will be used effectively for productivity and one pastor is telling his gullible followers to bring a 5100 naira to him..something they themselves can hardly spare

I was just thinking that day. Seriously people need to wake up..no God or Allah will give u money or wife. or job or anything..u av to work on yourself..thats it,rather than wasting ur hard-earned money on pastors that can't even give u a loan to start up ur business

koolangel1:
Hi guys ,I have this to say
if Africa had colonized the other continents
Which religion would have been the most popular in the world? Food for thought

Also for Muslims and Christians, the God of the two religions is EL in Hebrew and pronounced as Al-allah in Arab,its just the difference in language, EL is Elshadai ,ELohim,Yahweh ,JEHOVAH, read about that folks
@hard mirror, I don't do religion but am a free thinker that believe in God and believe in Christ and neither do I go to church.thanks

HardMirror:

I never faked speaking in tongues.
I fact it came after I learnt how important it was for a christian.
the man of God that thought us was a very honest man, he did not force anyone. He only pleaded that we earnestly seek the gift of the spirit and prayed with us. That same day many started speaking when he prayed, but I could not. I just couldn't it was all strange to me. When ever I opened my mouth I felt like I was about to say rubbish to God.
About a month after this, I was praying at home. I always loved prayer walks because it helps me pray longer. So I was pacing about the back of our house (no one can see me there or distract me, there was a farm there). And asking God to help me so I can pray in spirit. I remember the words of that man of God saying we need to have faith and just speak as the spirit leads. So I opened my mouth and spoke. It was really really strange, but I started to flow.

I can still speak in tongues till date. In fact when ever I am stressed and I need solution, I pace about the house and speak in tongues. It helps me think better.

https://www.nairaland.com/3078223/pastor-atheist-why-never-christian/5#45203754

sirfee:
I'm confused,can you please explain more on the speaking in tongues?why I'm asking this question is because I hear many people(pastors,theologists etc)repeating the same thing everytime.FYI I'm a free thinker(also a theist)

EmmaFantastic:

Hello sir. I just ran into this your comment and decided to say something to you. You see, I've never taken part in any of all these arguments about christianity, atheists, various religions, etc. But I decided to just say this today. When I read your comment up there, I just smiled, nodded my head and told myself, "you see, this is exactly what I've always been saying". What do I mean? I can see that the garbage you saw those churches doing, kind of put you off christianity, isn't it? You see, I don't and have never blamed any atheist. It is not their fault, they are being affected and put off by the very s.t.u.p.i.d., notorious, satanic and garbage activities of churches. I've been saying this, that these churches are "de-evangelizing" christianity with their garbage acts. Many people that talk against christianity do so because of the garbage that churches are doing. But what they don't know is that there is a difference between christianity and church, ***I will make out time to elaborate on this in another instance***, but christianity is basically the worship of God through Jesus Christ, while church is a physical gathering of christians...or "people that claim to be christians", lol, because that word is being seriously abused nowadays. I may not be able to say much here today, but I will say something interesting-I'm a born again christian and will forever be...I'm a friend of God, God is my father, Jesus is my brother-my joint heir and the Holy Spirit is my friend, lol. You may be wondering why I'm saying these. Well, I would have stopped being a born again christian a very long time ago because of these same acts by churches and some people that call themselves christians, but why didn't I? Because I had uncountable life changing ministrations from the Holy Spirit and a lot of divine personal encounters with God. 1 day, I'll tell some of my personal life stories here on nairaland. You won't believe when I tell you that the holy spirit has atimes, given me specific instructions and concepts concerning my companies and businesses that changed my fortunes. Sometimes people ask me how did I come about XYZ, I just laugh and tell them it's "spiritual ministration and divine revelation". Funny, isn't it? Finally, the major thing I tell people now is that, if you are a christian and do believe in God, try to know him and relate with him on your own not through any church, because many of them are useless garbage and bags of poo and are just out for material gains. This is my take.

Seun:

It's a state of mind in which saying nonsense words as they come to your mind feels totally right. The exact opposite of the Lord's Prayer.

Seun:

It's a state of mind in which saying nonsense words as they come to your mind feels totally right. The exact opposite of the Lord's Prayer.

sirfee:
I like your post but let me ask you a question,which is the best way of serving God: (A)By going to church regularly and obeying the church doctrines or (B)By staying at home and obeying God's commandment.Thank you

EmmaFantastic:

Straight answer: (B)! Believe me, you are better off with that! Some people are not even aware that contrary to what some churches try to portray, going to church is not a condition for being born again. The bible simply says in Acts 16, "repent and be baptized for the remission of your sins and though shall be saved". Also, in Romans 10 says that if you believe in the Lord Jesus and confess him, you will be saved, simple! That is what is salvation in the bible. If you like, join a church, if you can't, you are still a christian #fact#!. The bible does not in anyway or anywhere say that not going to church is a sin or will make not to enter heaven. There are many countries in the world (mostly communist countries and moslem countreis) where there are no churches at all, but christians are there, and so the christians don't go to church, but they are still christians and will still enter heaven.

hahn:

You and your family are going to the ISlamic hell.
God will tie a bomb to your body and blow you up every day
There is no hope for you and our family
CYA

hahn:

You and your family are going to the ISlamic hell.
God will tie a bomb to your body and blow you up every day
There is no hope for you and our family
CYA

sirfee:
Hmmmm! what's the difference between this "modern day" speaking in tongues and that of the "pentecost day",Thanks.

Seun:

From the epistles it's clear that the tongues the early Christians spoke were meaningless sounds which nobody could understand, hence the need for "interpretation". I believe the pentecost story was pure fiction; it was written to validate the weird practice of speaking in tongues.

raphieMontella:

you still lack comprehensive abilities...
Mehn christians sef!
May Nature help us!

Seun:

It's a state of mind in which saying nonsense words as they come to your mind feels totally right. The exact opposite of the Lord's Prayer.

Seun:

From the epistles it's clear that the tongues the early Christians spoke were meaningless sounds which nobody could understand, hence the need for "interpretation". I believe the pentecost story was pure fiction; it was written to validate the weird practice of speaking in tongues.