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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 5:09pm On Dec 02, 2016
Henry240:


Sure, it can.

"because i say so"

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 5:11pm On Dec 02, 2016
Henry240:


The trailer solves the problem of carriage, but it looks bulky and in my opinion, impediment to operationally efficiency.

Yes, because you of course know more than the people who designed it.

Their decades of experience of designing vehicles for the bush war pales in comparison to yours.

Stop with silly arguments.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 5:33pm On Dec 02, 2016
Henry240:

Your 'lab rat' has sold over 10,000 units till date.

Come up with a better argument.
Lab rat.
Awful performance.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:34pm On Dec 02, 2016
patches689:


"because i say so"

patches689:


Yes, because you of course know more than the people who designed it.

Their decades of experience of designing vehicles for the bush war pales in comparison to yours.

Stop with silly arguments.

Your little irrelevant opinions have been duly noted.


Come back when you have a factual argument which tackles the issue i have raised.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:37pm On Dec 02, 2016
MikeCZA:
Lab rat.

Awful performance.

I agree it has had an awful performance in combat, however you need to take into account the scale of munitions that has been used against it.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 5:51pm On Dec 02, 2016
Henry240:


I agree it has had an awful performance in combat, however you need to take into account the scale of munitions that has been used against it.
It's peers have performed better under the same circumstances at times worse.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:04pm On Dec 02, 2016
MikeCZA:
It's peers have performed better under the same circumstances at times worse.

You clearly are totally ignorant of the core values of vehicles like the M-ATV, and the arguments i've been making with them.


High performance, High protection, Flexible for the
mission.

The M-ATV Vehicle fits into an array of
mission requirements, force structures and threats.
Whether a fleet has narrowly defined missions or
expansive tactical demands.


It is what vehicles like the M-ATV offer, not a comparison between vehicles in it's class. First understand the argument.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:15pm On Dec 02, 2016
Henry240:


The trailer solves the problem of carriage, but it looks bulky and in my opinion, impediment to operationally efficiency.
Impeed what exactly? It has a powerful 2.8 l diesel engine and a chassis that weighs nothing....trust me the trailer doesn't impeed the operational efficiency.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Fidha254(m): 6:55pm On Dec 02, 2016
Them days when the future was anything we wanted..
Kenyas version of 'the beast'

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 7:00pm On Dec 02, 2016
Henry240:




Your little irrelevant opinions have been duly noted.


Come back when you have a factual argument which tackles the issue i have raised.

The factual argument is: Can the Leopard be lifted by a medium-helicopter?

The sub argument is: You are in no position to question those who developed the doctrine for and design of the Hornet.

You have raised a non-issue, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Move. On.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 7:05pm On Dec 02, 2016
Henry240:


You clearly are totally ignorant of the core values of vehicles like the M-ATV, and the arguments i've been making with them.


High performance, High protection, Flexible for the
mission.

The M-ATV Vehicle fits into an array of
mission requirements, force structures and threats.
Whether a fleet has narrowly defined missions or
expansive tactical demands.


It is what vehicles like the M-ATV offer, not a comparison between vehicles in it's class. First understand the argument.

1. M-ATV comes in at 14 tonnes, too heavy for medium helicopters
2. Its massive (8ft high)
3. Its an MRAP

Its hard to follow the argument when you keep re-defining it.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 7:31pm On Dec 02, 2016
Henry240:


You clearly are totally ignorant of the core values of vehicles like the M-ATV, and the arguments i've been making with them.


High performance, High protection, Flexible for the
mission.

The M-ATV Vehicle fits into an array of
mission requirements, force structures and threats.
Whether a fleet has narrowly defined missions or
expansive tactical demands.


It is what vehicles like the M-ATV offer, not a comparison between vehicles in it's class. First understand the argument.
Widow maker!


What "high protection"?

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:42pm On Dec 02, 2016
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:44pm On Dec 02, 2016
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:54pm On Dec 02, 2016
is there any sub sahara country that can rival angola air lift capability !?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 8:18pm On Dec 02, 2016
africaken254:
is there any sub sahara country that can rival angola air lift capability !?
undecided u dare ask these
what have you been seeing chkil posting...cartoon characters?

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by GreenandGold: 8:26pm On Dec 02, 2016
africaken254:
is there any sub sahara country that can rival angola air lift capability !?

Mmmh.... Why does it have to be a comparison?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:26pm On Dec 02, 2016
Odunayaw:
undecided u dare ask these
what have you been seeing chkil posting...cartoon characters?
i didn't include north africa (define sub sahara africa )countries
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:28pm On Dec 02, 2016

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 8:30pm On Dec 02, 2016
africaken254:
i didn't include north africa (define sub sahara africa )countries
Ok
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:40pm On Dec 02, 2016
Iranians face terrorism charges after filming Israeli embassy in Kenya

Two Iranians and their Kenyan driver, who worked for the Iranian embassy in Nairobi, were charged on Thursday with collecting information for a terrorist act after filming the Israeli embassy, lawyers said.

Sayed Nasrollah Ebrahimi, Abdolhosein Ghola Safafe and driver Moses Keyah Mmboga "were found taking video clips of the Israeli embassy ... for the use in the commission of a terrorist act", according to a charge sheet produced in court.

The three men were in a car belonging to the Iranian embassy when they were arrested on Tuesday, the court papers said. The diplomatic status of the two Iranians was unclear.

The Iranian embassy did not respond to requests for comment.

"My clients pleaded not guilty and have been detained by the ATPU (Kenya's Anti Terrorism Police Unit) for further interrogation," defense lawyer Cohen Amanya told Reuters after the men's court appearance.

Prosecutor Duncan Ondimu said the two Iranians were visiting Kenya but gave no further details.

Kenya has suffered repeated militant attacks in recent years but those were mainly carried out by ethnically Somali militants who would be hostile to Iran because of sectarian differences.

In 2002, 15 people died when an Israeli-owned hotel was bombed in the coastal town of Mombasa at the same time two missiles were fired at an Israeli jet, narrowly missing it In 2013, a Kenyan court jailed two Iranians for life on terrorism-related charges, including possessing explosives. The sentence was reduced to 15 years on appeal..
linkhttp://www.reuters.com/article/us-kenya-security-iran-idUSKBN13Q506
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:45pm On Dec 02, 2016
patches689:


The factual argument is: Can the Leopard be lifted by a medium-helicopter?

The sub argument is: You are in no position to question those who developed the doctrine for and design of the Hornet.

You have raised a non-issue, you have no idea what you are talking about.

Move. On.

It can be carried by a medium utility helicopter. It's amour is made from Dynemma, a light weight armour. It's also based on the land cruiser chassis.

Like I previously said to you, come back with a factual argument. Your rants do not in anyway even begin to tackle the arguments I've raised.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jlnAgain: 9:13pm On Dec 02, 2016
Henry240:


It can be carried by a medium utility helicopter. It's amour is made from Dynemma, a light weight armour. It's also based on the land cruiser chassis.

Like I previously said to you, come back with a factual argument. Your rants do not in anyway even begin to tackle the arguments I've raised.
The Leopard weighs at least 4 tons....and that's without troops, equipment, fuel ect ect which would be at least another 500-1000kg

Given the fact that most medium transport helicopters can only carry between 3-3,5 tons on a sling means it can't be transported by 95% of medium helicopters.......Hell even the Oryx with a sling capacity of 4,5 tons(Which is the most of any medium heli) would struggle!

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:44pm On Dec 02, 2016
MINUSMA Mali


Niger Troops

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:46pm On Dec 02, 2016
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:04pm On Dec 02, 2016
Senegal training

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:04pm On Dec 02, 2016
IbnSultaan:
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Photoshop

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by bidexiii: 10:13pm On Dec 02, 2016
IbnSultaan:
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These jf17 bird of a thing will cause serious...whalaaaa.. grin grin grin
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by abelian: 10:21pm On Dec 02, 2016
IbnSultaan:
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Photoshop

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