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KingEbukasBlog:
Craven atheist ... run run run

Don't worry I won't post a rebuttal . I'll open a thread someday to address the Exodus - its veracity is the least of my worries .

abeg cc me when you do..

HCpaul:
I understand you bro....
First, I will like to clarify that the god of the Christian and the entirety of religion didn't equate the existence of an intelligent designer.
God and intelligent designer are just two separate entity. *Meaning that if God truly exist then the existence of an intelligent designer is null and if an intelligent designer truly exist them it vindicates that the existence of God is void*.

That is because the god(s) of any religion ain't meet the standard of an intelligent designer.

Secondly, if anyone should prove to the world the existence of a Creator, it shouldn't be some silly religious folks sitting their black ass in the dark part of the world and confidently telling the world the Creator that Created the Cosmic. It should instead be some sane personalities among us that are more exposed to the outer world.

Thirdly, whether a god exist or not shouldn't be our concern. No one gains any attention in suspense. The anonymity of this god is questionable.
What an anonymous god is telling the world is that it doesn't care and doesn't need our attention. Then why giving it a waste?

Don't forget that we have thousand of god(s) please.

nice comment bro...

benzics:
Lol.. You know that ain't happening, since you religious people have decided to force your religions down our throat, we'll continue to fight back until you all leave us alone...

Anyway, you looking good sweetie and no pun was intended

Okay.. Keep fighting. More grease to your elbow.

Thanks a lot dear.

benzics:
Religion and science, we all know.. Over the years, religion have claimed to know everything about the existence of man, religion even claims to know how life began on earth, but that isn't the sad part, the sad part is that there are actually people out there who believe that a book written over a thousand years ago by some con artist, is all they need to know about life, is their daily guide to a peaceful and "sin-free" coexistence.


Below is an illustration comparing the knowledge held by science and religion.


Religion believes that yes, it has attained all that is to know about the world and therefore there are no room for improvements or additions, that's why it's borders are closed.

Science on the other hand is still learning about the world, and looking at the lines for science, they are infinite (no limit), science knows a better deal about the world, but that isn't it, it still has a lot to learn and there are always room for improvement.


Look at the environment around you, the device that you use, what if man have been praying over the course of the years? Would we have gotten this far? NO! Because well we all know, prayer is equivalent to doing nothing!

Now, religion is a CULT of people who DON'T THINK! Religious people tend to disprove logic when it comes to matters concerning religion, but if it doesn't concern religion, well, "WE NEED PROOF". These people act paradoxically without even thinking for a moment, "what am I doing".

When the topic is religion, they tend to not use their brains, but once it's science, these people then turn Einstein, and start asking useless questions like, "where is the proof"..

Now go to a church and give testimony of how a handsome man in white drew you out of the car when your car was about to crash, but then after you were saved from the accident, you didn't see the man again, then watch how the whole congregation will be like "praise Jehovah, thank you Jesus", without anyone questioning the logic behind this ridiculous story.

Now go tell the same people a story of how aliens came to you with their UFOs, and were communicating with you... Then watch them go "where is the proof, don't you have a camera? Where are the photos and videos? You think we will just believe that Nonsense?".

Lol actually how these people fail to see the irony in their actions baffles me a lot.

Now, religious people believe in an INTELLIGENT DESIGN, because well, the DNA is TOO COMPLEX to have formed on it's own.

It's funny really, how you believe that the DNA, a complex structure, must have a creator, but a more complex structure, "God", doesn't have a creator.. Lol, take a look at this.
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Fil: Science has found god.

Me: really? How?

Fil: it has discovered that the DNA is too complex, so it must have a creator.

Me: lol but the DNA could have easily existed by mistake.

Fil : Now I know atheism is a mental disorder, how can you say that the complex DNA has no creator? Bro can you listen to yourself, bro sorry to say, but you are a fool.

Me: lol so anyone who believes that complex things came by mistake is a fool?

Fil: a fool, no doubt.

Me: between DNA and God, which is more complex?

Fil: Mysteri....

Me: shut up and just answer me.

Fil: God.

Me: so you, your father, your mother, your whole family, your pastor, your bishops, your overseers, they are all fools for believing a complex god had no creator.

FIL...

Me: fil, are you there?
.....

Dan: what if you are wrong and there is God, and you burn in hell for eternity for being an atheist.
Me: what if you are wrong and also burn in hell for being a Christian and not a Muslim?
Dan: Christianity is the true religion.
Me: I've heard that from many people from different religions, so who am I to believe?
Dan: my religion.
Me: so said everyone..
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This is how little religious people think, they don't see the bigger picture, they love to center around their useless books, instead of actually discovering and seeing the world as it really is.

The only way a religious person can think, is to finally break free from the shackles of religion, but is that really possible when they have all clouded their judgments with myopia?? I don't think so....

4evergod, EyeHateGod, jonbellion, kingebukasblog , hopefulLandlord e.t c

So you mean, Rene Descarte, Francis bacon,Johannes Kepler, Galileo, blaise Pascal, Michael faraday, Gregor Mendel, william T kelvin etc. could not contribute to science because they believed in God.


I Will agree with your writeup if you can tell me how much you've contributed to science, through your atheism, and why you think That as an atheist, you are a better scientist than the above.

peacesamuel94:
So you mean, Rene Descarte, Francis bacon,Johannes Kepler, Galileo, blaise Pascal, Michael faraday, Gregor Mendel, william T kelvin etc. could not contribute to science because they believed in God.


I Will agree with your writeup if you can tell me how much you've contributed to science, through your atheism, and why you think That as an atheist, you are a better scientist than the above.

Lol, anyone, even a priest can contribute to science! There are always rooms for new discoveries in science, it doesn't matter if you are religious or not, as far as you have experimented, observed and evaluated something, science welcomes it with a broad mind, unlike religion..

Now when the madness sets in is when you start making useless arguments like the one I illustrated above, that's when we'll totally ignore you!

And what I've contributed in science? A lot of things that have fetched me money

KingEbukasBlog:
Raelians are atheists because they don't hold any belief in deities . Those atheists believe that aliens created life on earth . They reject evolution .



Atheism is still a belief anyway and the belief there is no God is a supposition . The existence of God is factual , Atheism is denial more like rejection of God . As far as you reject gods or deities you are an atheist . That means an atheist can believe in witchcraft , superstition , reincarnation , veneration of ancestral spirits , magic etc .


It depends as what you see as intelligent design. Theistic evolutionists see natural selection as a mechanism for creation . Life is intelligently designed , the contentious issue should be , by what mechanism .



Funny enough that's what the raelians who like I mentioned before are atheists believe . They believe this idea of intelligent design has been passed down from generations for 6,000 years .



Actually that's fallacious reasoning - appeal to ignorance fallacy . You surmise that God does not exist because of the supposed lack of contrary evidence . If that is what you call atheism, then no wonder it is illogical and repulsive to any logical human

Times without number, ATHEISM IS NO BELIEF!

Animals and new born babies are most likely atheists, why? They have no belief to hold unto! Now, most of us were indoctrinated as little kids, but then, we grew up, got wiser, and forsaked those beliefs.. Yes, that's atheism!

For you to believe in superstitions, spirits, life after death.. Now, that's a belief.. Because you most likely got it during your journey as a religious person, but you still held unto that part of the BELIEF, you are no atheist!

Saying atheism is a belief is like saying that switching off the TV is a TV station! You've switched off every Nonsense put in you by indoctrination, that's atheism...

Ignorance and fallacy you say? Lol . Define faith!
Faith is just synonymous to ignorance.. so when next you are looking for someone to call ignorant, look at yourself twice!

How can u even expect an answer when the question itself is illogical.

God is defined as an omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent, self-existent, eternal, perfect being.

Asking who created him doesn't even make sense, it's like asking who created an uncreated being?

rhektor:
Observe the following images and respond please I would like to hear from you

I thought your god was omnipotent? Why did he rest on the seventh day?

I thought your god is omniscient? Why does he still create people if he already knows that they are going to hell?

I thought your god was omnipresent? So you mean your god is actually present when paedophiles rape innocent little children, but your god whom you believe can do things is actually there but doing nothing? Some of these paedophiles go to the extent of butchering their victims, but your god is just watching..

It's either of these two things, god is a helpless psychopath, or god doesn't exist!!

Now the Bible was written by a con artist, that's for sure! I do ask Christians how was the Bible written, most say that god spoke to the early men (so god waited for billions of years before actually getting in contact with the inhabitants of the earth?), so do you know you are actually leaving off a man's hallucinations? You won't think about it, because, "who are you to question god"..

Lol, funny you, god recreates new species.... That really confirms the madness of this god.. . Do you know that there are insects that survive only by feeding on the eyes of little children? Why did God create these kind of creatures that live to harm? Simple, God created nothing! In fact, he doesn't exist!

Keep living off a man's delusions...

Richirich713:
How can u even expect an answer when the question itself is illogical.

God is defined as an omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent, self-existent, eternal, perfect being.

Asking who created him doesn't even make sense, it's like asking who created an uncreated being?

God is perfect? Omnipotent? Omniscient? Read that ^^^^^

benzics:
God is perfect? Omnipotent? Omniscient? Read that ^^^^^

Don't u understand the traditional definition of the theistic God?

Richirich713:
Don't u understand the traditional definition of the theistic God?

Lol, this exactly how Christians behave, twist things to fit their explanations.. in Matthew Jesus said "I came not to bring peace, but with a sword.... ", a Christian will most likely tell you that "that verse is figurative, and you are taking it out of context"...

benzics:
Lol, this exactly how Christians behave, twist things to fit their explanations.. in Matthew Jesus said "I came not to bring peace, but with a sword.... ", a Christian will most likely tell you that "that verse is figurative, and you are taking it out of context"...

epic dodge, shifting the goal post are we?

How does me asking "Don't u understand the traditional definition of the theistic God?" have anything to do with the meme u posted?

benzics:
I thought your god was omnipotent? Why did he rest on the seventh day?

I thought your god is omniscient? Why does he still create people if he already knows that they are going to hell?

I thought your god was omnipresent? So you mean your god is actually present when paedophiles rape innocent little children, but your god whom you believe can do things is actually there but doing nothing? Some of these paedophiles go to the extent of butchering their victims, but your god is just watching..

It's either of these two things, god is a helpless psychopath, or god doesn't exist!!

Now the Bible was written by a con artist, that's for sure! I do ask Christians how was the Bible written, most say that god spoke to the early men (so god waited for billions of years before actually getting in contact with the inhabitants of the earth?), so do you know you are actually leaving off a man's hallucinations? You won't think about it, because, "who are you to question god"..

Lol, funny you, god recreates new species.... That really confirms the madness of this god.. . Do you know that there are insects that survive only by feeding on the eyes of little children? Why did God create these kind of creatures that live to harm? Simple, God created nothing! In fact, he doesn't exist!

Keep living off a man's delusions...

Just researched on that eye-eating worm and it's brutal... If there's a God, he's sure brutal

rhektor:
I don't know what a buybull is maybe you have one it's your problem don't involve me

is this what you want to hide under now that the asininity and blankness of your post is laid bare for all to see?

consider the below sequence of posts

rhektor:
Most scientific breakthroughs and discoveries are achieved by curiously reading the Bible

hopefulLandlord:
is this what you tell yourself to make yourself feel better?

why not name 10, just 10 of such "Most Scientific breakthroughs" achieved by curiously reading the buybull? I'll wait

it appears you KNEW what the hole-ly buybull is going by the reply you gave.....

rhektor:
The Second Law of Thermodynamics Confirms Psalm 102:26
First, let us consider the science of thermodynamics: In Psalm 102:25,26, we read, "Of old hast Thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of Thy hands. They shall perish, but Thou shalt endure: yea, all of them shall wax old like a garment; as a vesture shalt Thou change them, and they shall be changed."

In verse 25, we find, restated, the fact that God is the Creator of all that exists. Verse 26 then tells us something highly significant, not about the initial, created state of the universe, but about the present state of the universe. According to this Scripture, written three thousand years before the dawn of modern science, we learn that the universe is like a suit of clothes that is wearing out. In other words, the universe is running down, deteriorating, constantly becoming less and less orderly.

That is not what most people believed when this Scripture was recorded. According to human observations, the universe was unchangeable. The statement that the universe is constantly becoming more random, less orderly, is a scientifically testable statement. The fact that the universe, in its present state is deteriorating, has been fully verified by modern science. Everywhere we look, from the scale of the galaxies down to the scale of the atom, we find a universal, natural tendency of all systems to go from order to disorder; from complexity to simplicity. Thus, clusters of galaxies are dispersing as the galaxies move away from one another.

The rotation of the earth is slowing; the magnetic field of the earth is decaying. Erosion constantly wears down the features of the earth. Our bodies wear out; we die and decay to a pile of dust. Our houses, our machines wear out and are finally abandoned and replaced. Many atoms decay to simpler products, and it is even being postulated that sub-atomic particles, such as the proton, decay, though ever so slowly, into energy.

You can continue here
http://www.icr.org/article/modern-scientific-discoveries-verify-scriptures/

now that you can't point to any discovery made by carefully reading your book, you now attempt to feign ignorance?

Chai!!!

na wa o

foladara777:
Baba, just read the link... I already read it and it clearly sets out the contradiction of the two accounts... But if u still want to run for cover, then good night

I tire for am o

benzics:
Times without number, ATHEISM IS NO BELIEF!

Animals and new born babies are most likely atheists, why? They have no belief to hold unto! Now, most of us were indoctrinated as little kids, but then, we grew up, got wiser, and forsaked those beliefs.. Yes, that's atheism!

For you to believe in superstitions, spirits, life after death.. Now, that's a belief.. Because you most likely got it during your journey as a religious person, but you still held unto that part of the BELIEF, you are no atheist!

Saying atheism is a belief is like saying that switching off the TV is a TV station! You've switched off every Nonsense put in you by indoctrination, that's atheism...

Ignorance and fallacy you say? Lol . Define faith!
Faith is just synonymous to ignorance.. so when next you are looking for someone to call ignorant, look at yourself twice!

Can someone stop this guy from saying extremely stupid things and embarrassing himself in public . And babies are not atheists . Animals are atheists ? Jesu

KingEbukasBlog:
Craven atheist ... run run run

Don't worry I won't post a rebuttal . I'll open a thread someday to address the Exodus - its veracity is the least of my worries .

Like the way you opened a thread to show good concrete evidence for progressive creationism?

KingEbukasBlog:
Can someone stop this guy from saying extremely stupid things and embarrassing himself in public . And babies are not atheists . Animals are atheists ? Jesu

I'm not sure u can help it, atheism has devastating effects on one's brain.

https://www.nairaland.com/3493419/researches-reveal-atheism-devastating-effects

KingEbukasBlog:
Can someone stop this guy from saying extremely stupid things and embarrassing himself in public . And babies are not atheists . Animals are atheists ? Jesu

Hehehe, am just trying to bring it down to a point where your "controlled brain" would even try to comprehend..

I said animals are most likely atheists, because atheism is not a faith! Are animals not living organisms? A "living organism" is the DEFAULT name given to creatures with life, so is "atheist" the DEFAULT name given to people without beliefs!! !!

Babies are atheists because they have no BELIEF!

Richirich713:
I'm not sure u can help it, atheism has devastating effects on one's brain.

https://www.nairaland.com/3493419/researches-reveal-atheism-devastating-effects

Exactly ! At least we have a logical explanation for the parochialism and absurdity shown by the atheists .

He accuses people who believe in God of close-mindedness and faith while he displays exactly the same thing in the face of facts . Isn't that delusion

Richirich713:
epic dodge, shifting the goal post are we?

How does me asking "Don't u understand the traditional definition of the theistic God?" have anything to do with the meme u posted?

Lol, it's really painful arguing with someone who is controlled your definition of "understand", we all know is what you deem "fit", if I told you i understood, you'd still say I don't understand, because it doesn't tally with your own opinion!

benzics:
Hehehe, am just trying to bring it down to a point where your "controlled brain" would even try to comprehend..

I said animals are most likely atheists, because atheism is not a faith! Are animals not living organisms? A "living organism" is the DEFAULT name given to creatures with life, so is "atheist" the DEFAULT name given to people without beliefs!! !!

Babies are atheists because they have no BELIEF!

Atheism involves the explicit conscious rejection of gods , a belief that God does not exist .

Let me show you how atheism is a belief

1. God is believed to dwell outside space and time , a different dimension , the spiritual realm . If you have not been there to ascertain that He does not exist indeed then its a belief .

Belief

an acceptance that something is true, especially one without proof.

You say God does not exist yet you have not been to every dimension or realm , outside the universe to prove that there is no such thing as the creator of the universe then its a belief God does not exist .

2. The deists/theists say that Nature , Science and Reason are cogent evidence for God . Atheism rejected this . But can't they prove that Nature was not created by God or isn't part of His essence ? No. Were atheists there when the universe was created ? No So what is it ? A belief


Atheism says there is no God . Are babies saying there is no God ?
Babies are born with a tabula rasa or clean slate , they do not have the propensity to hold beliefs or opinions about anything . So they don't need labels - they are not atheists , or deists , or pantheists or anything . They are babies

Animals can't be atheists because they are not conscious enough to explicitly reject the existence of God . Their state of consciousness is undeveloped unlike humans .

Comprende ?

KingEbukasBlog:
Atheism involves the explicit conscious rejection of gods , a belief that God does not exist .

Let me show you how atheism is a belief

1. God is believed to dwell outside space and time , a different dimension , the spiritual realm . If you have not been there to ascertain that He does not exist indeed then its a belief .

Belief

an acceptance that something is true, especially one without proof.

You say God does not exist yet you have not been to every dimension or realm , outside the universe to prove that there is no such thing as the creator of the universe then its a belief God does not exist .

2. The deists/theists say that Nature , Science and Reason are cogent evidence for God . Atheism rejected this . But can't they prove that Nature was not created by God or isn't part of His essence ? No. Were atheists there when the universe was created ? No So what is it ? A belief


Atheism says there is no God . Are babies saying there is no God ?
Babies are born with a tabula rasa or clean slate , they do not have the propensity to hold beliefs or opinions about anything . So they don't need labels - they are not atheists , or deists , or pantheists or anything . They are babies

Animals can't be atheists because they are not conscious enough to explicitly reject the existence of God . Their state of consciousness is undeveloped unlike humans .

Comprende ?

*facepalm *

Do you know before religion, every man was an atheist? Because none of them gave a f.uck about any thing creating them, until one sick ass hole brought the idea of religion, and now you are saying atheism is also a belief!!!

Atheism is the REJECTION OF BELIEFS! And THE LACK OF BELIEF...

The early men all lacked beliefs, so they are by nature, atheists.. I still repeat myself, if you say atheism is a belief, that's just like saying that switching off the TV is a TV station!! Animals can't hold unto any belief, so basically they have no beliefs, and they are by nature atheists :p even though they don't know it!!

You don't earn being called an atheist same way unplugging your TV doesn't make a TV station! You are naturally an atheist when you stop believing in unreasonable things (like a talking donkey, a skydaddy who watches you when you masturbate) that has no proof!

Strawman!!!!!!!!!!

KingEbukasBlog:
Atheism involves the explicit conscious rejection of gods , a belief that God does not exist .

atheism is lack of belief in any deity, simple

atheists "reject" belief in any deity not reject deities

there's a huge difference between both

Let me show you how atheism is a belief

1. God is believed to dwell outside space and time , a different dimension , the spiritual realm . If you have not been there to ascertain that He does not exist indeed then its a belief .

Belief

an acceptance that something is true, especially one without proof.

by this logic, all I have to do is create any god right in my living room, tell you that god is real and tell you your lack of belief in it's existence (pretty sure you'll lack belief in it) is a "belief"

can you see the why you're king of strawman?

You say God does not exist yet you have not been to every dimension or realm , outside the universe to prove that there is no such thing as the creator of the universe then its a belief God does not exist .

another strawman, he doesn't have belief in any god, simple

2. The deists/theists say that Nature , Science and Reason are cogent evidence for God . Atheism rejected this . But can't they prove that Nature was not created by God or isn't part of His essence ? No. Were atheists there when the universe was created ? No So what is it ? A belief

same way you can't prove we weren't created 2 minutes ago with fake memories implanted, I could make such an assertion

straws again

Atheism says there is no God . Are babies saying there is no God ?

atheism says no such thing, atheists lack belief in any god, simple Chai!!

Babies are born with a tabula rasa or clean slate , they do not have the propensity to hold beliefs or opinions about anything .

babies don't have belief in any deity, that makes them atheist

So they don't need labels - they are not atheists , or deists , or pantheists or anything . They are babies

non sequitur

Animals can't be atheists because they are not conscious enough to explicitly reject the existence of God . Their state of consciousness is undeveloped unlike humans .

animals lack belief in any god, they can be called atheists

Comprende ?

do you?

benzics:
*facepalm *

Do you know before religion, every man was an atheist? Because none of them gave a f.uck about any thing creating them, until one sick ass hole brought the idea of religion, and now you are saying atheism is also a belief!!!

Atheism is the REJECTION OF BELIEFS! And THE LACK OF BELIEF...

The early men all lacked beliefs, so they are by nature, atheists.. I still repeat myself, if you say atheism is a belief, that's just like saying that switching off the TV is a TV station!! Animals can't hold unto any belief, so basically they have no beliefs, and they are by nature atheists :p even though they don't know it!!

You don't earn being called an atheist same way unplugging your TV doesn't make a TV station! You are naturally an atheist when you stop believing in unreasonable things (like a talking donkey, a skydaddy who watches you when you masturbate) that has no proof!

that guy is just pulling straws anyhow

he'll define atheism the way he wants and attack that definition

Wow ! I'm done arguing with these two . How can these two atheists be this ignorant . People like them can't have a rational discussion in public about atheism cos they'll be utterly disgraced and mocked .

Folie a deux !

benzics:
*facepalm *

Do you know before religion, every man was an atheist? Because none of them gave a f.uck about any thing creating them, until one sick ass hole brought the idea of religion, and now you are saying atheism is also a belief!!!

Atheism is the REJECTION OF BELIEFS! And THE LACK OF BELIEF...

The early men all lacked beliefs, so they are by nature, atheists.. I still repeat myself, if you say atheism is a belief, that's just like saying that switching off the TV is a TV station!! Animals can't hold unto any belief, so basically they have no beliefs, and they are by nature atheists :p even though they don't know it!!

You don't earn being called an atheist same way unplugging your TV doesn't make a TV station! You are naturally an atheist when you stop believing in unreasonable things (like a talking donkey, a skydaddy who watches you when you masturbate) that has no proof!

*facepalm * , animals are atheists? And they don't know they are atheists?

Richirich713:
*facepalm * , animals are atheists? And they don't know they are atheists?

Let me ask you, do animals know they are "animals"? If you answer that, then you have your answer

lol

what KingEbuka means is that

"These people aren't buying my bullsheeet strawman I'm full of, I'll rather call them ignorant because I'm not used to these kinda waters; that'll at least help me save face"

hopefulLandlord:
that guy is just pulling straws anyhow

he'll define atheism the way he wants and attack that definition

That's what they do best bro, compromise things to fit their own descriptions...

Richirich713:
*facepalm * , animals are atheists? And they don't know they are atheists?

Is true sef . Babies don't even know they are atheists . How can you be an atheist and won't know .

Early men were also atheists because they didn't have religion .

I just read the stupidest things this morning ... sighs


@ benzics Religion without God and God without religion : https://www.nairaland.com/3500235/must-read-god-without-religion

hopefulLandlord:
lol

what KingEbuka means is that

"These people aren't buying my bullsheeet strawman I'm full of, I'll rather call them ignorant because I'm not used to these kinda waters; that'll at least help me save face"

You don't know what atheism is apparently . So you've been on this forum for one complete year with all discussions and all and you still talk like this ?

Atheism does have devastating effects on the brain

Smh