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Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by stephinnoyewole(m): 9:19pm On Dec 16, 2016
MrEverest:
I doubt you really did research on MMM as you said op, your analysis is wrong. I hope you wont eat your words when they come out again in january.
Pple like him will leave Nigeria
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by Teaser4(m): 9:26pm On Dec 16, 2016
I took my time to read about MMM yesterday instead of joining a pool of ......... people celeberating the Rumor about the crash of MMM
But sadly MMM freezes payment for one month and you're all rejoicing on social media,
yet state Government(s) has owed your mother/father 6 month's salary, promotion arrears and even pension, and you've not mused a single word here.
I may not be a participant but the rate I saw many jubilation on said issue kept me in consternation
Your ignorance can't be described with words, it can only be acted out.
I wonder what some people stand to gain by celebrating the Rumored crash of MMM.
How does it affect your own personal life if not wickedness of hope to see your fellow human cry and in pains.
or how does it affect the GDP of our economy?
The main characteristic of successful people is their ability to take risk. And if you don't have that trait it does not mean that you are a lesser human
I think most Nigerians are the most pathetic set of entities in this side of the planet earth..
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by tammie24: 9:26pm On Dec 16, 2016
danduchi:
I have observed something very typical of Nigerians. There
is a very great level of jealousy and competition among us.
First, when Donald Trump won the U.S election, Nigerians
were celebrating and posting all sort of things across all
social networks, teasing other Nigerians and Africans in U.S.
They were very happy that trump is going to send blacks
back home.
Isnt that really pathetic? Instead of building yourself and try
to achieve success, you are envying those that have made it
and praying and delighting in their down fall.
Donald Trump has not sent anyone home, so they were all
rejoicing in vain.
Secondly; The frozen MMM account story. Within seconds of
hearing that news, the whole social network and media went
viral with an uproar of mockery, joyfulness against other
Nigerians that have money there.
This is a very clear indication that we are filled with jealousy
and hatred. What have people benefitted in making their
fellow ones feel bad. I even heard someone committed
suicide, and i read posts of people laughing and happy. This
is the level jealousy can bring a person as to not to care
about his brother's life.
MMM is still very likely to come back, and those rejoicing
would have been rejoicing in vain.
CONCLUSION:
I applaud all those that had the mind of investing money
into MMM. You did that because you wanted to improve on
your finance, though the process might be wrong, but atleast
you were not stealing or sponsoring terrorism or other
malicious acts.
For those mocking others, do not forget that life can be very
unpredictable and those you are laughing at might be the
one to help you when you are in need tomorrow and if you
are not doing anything currently concerning your life, and
finance. Then an MMM participant even if his/her money is
lost is better than you. He/she made a step or took a risk
and you have done nothing and you would probably do
nothing until you end in poverty.
don't mind them


Particularly nairaland mods especially Seun himself

His comments about mmm and the way they hide pro-mmm comments shows they are trying all their best possible to kill it off.

Donald Trump cannot just deport africans like that when you haven't committed any offence na


These are the kind of people you find in American embassy sleeping and waking up there

Really unfortunate!

These are the kind of people that when you go and ask them for money, even if it's to feed oneself, they will never agree to part with one kobo.

I trip o!
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by MrEverest(m): 9:29pm On Dec 16, 2016
DavidEsq:
The OP made a sound analysis of MMM's modus operandi; if u feel otherwise, shldn't u educate us by giving a better illustration dat impeaches the OP's views?
I have done that already, check the following page 2 for it
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by Onechancearmy(m): 9:31pm On Dec 16, 2016
grin

Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by Stoner(m): 9:35pm On Dec 16, 2016
Who is this myopic minded charlatan that wrote all these rubbish?
Shut up if u dnt have an indept knowledge of something.
Am sure you are looking for cheap popularity here.
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by MrEverest(m): 9:37pm On Dec 16, 2016
MrKang:
As you can see majority are entering Stage Two= ANGER
They start attacking those they perceive as "MMM Haters" ,lmao grin .

I just don't know how they turn off part of their Thinking Faculty just to give themselves false hope,even when Reality states otherwise?
Gosh,I refuse to have descendants of these breeds of Humans.
You lots are nothing but a bunch of sadists, mmm nor its members is not the source of your frustration. Channel the same energy you expend in attacking mmm against the government that have made your life miserable. You are a classic example of a human with crab mentality.
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by uzoexcel(m): 9:39pm On Dec 16, 2016
Ironic that you should mention 'moral bankruptcy'
olaoge:
ON MMM

You got into many relationships that didn't work, and no one is mocking you. You got into a marriage that crashed, yet your friends are not on facebook mocking you, and you haven't killed yourself. Your many attempts at businesses have failed and you lost monies, yet you are still alive. You have taken many risks that never paid off, yet you are still moving on with hope.

Now you advised your friend not to do MMM, but he went for it anyways. MMM is frozen for 30days, atleast so we heard, and you find joy in taking to facebook to mock your friend JUST TO BE PROVED RIGHT. Same way you pray for the failure of the government you didn't vote for JUST TO BE PROVED RIGHT.

I have taken time to read the MMM freezing report, it is a shame that you have decided to take that report out of context, add salt and pepper to cause panic and unnecessary tension. Many people have fainted because they read your false version of MMM story.

Even if they were stupid, must you add to their sorrow?

Don't you have any shame sire? Are you not a hypocrite?

If that young man came to you for help, even to borrow money before MMM, would you have given him? How many of you have helped poor people the way MMM has in the last year(i speak based on the testimonies in the mouth of Nigerians). In October i met a young man in Port Harcourt who moved from someone's house as a squater to a one-bedroom apartment and i still remember the joy with which He glorified God for MMM. How many people have glorified God for your help and support, STINGY YOU!

There is a high level of moral bankruptcy in this nation. People are more willing to celebrate the pains of fellow Nigerians than anything else. It is the same reason they go to accident scenes, and their first impulse is not to help but snap and post gorry pictures on facebook to extract AMEN from people.

If you know you have never done things that failed in your life, then continue mocking your MMM friends.......

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Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by Vaxt(m): 9:40pm On Dec 16, 2016
Nigerians are slaves to wealthy people, when narialand is making sure that u remain poor, n u re happy about it, MMM came to your rescue like jesus n u want to crucifier it, hmmmmm nigerians wake up n be free from poverty.
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by dodoro(m): 9:43pm On Dec 16, 2016
This is nonsense post . Attention seeker.
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by Slim101(m):
All these fools promulgating theories on MMM need to see how many people waiting for Ultimate Cycler to relaunch tonite (despite all the bad press it had). You'll be scared MMM will get more subscribers than Multichoice in January. Wait and see. I only hope the headlines would be as frenzied has now.
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by sweetflame(m): 9:45pm On Dec 16, 2016
#copied

ABOUT YOUR FROZEN MAVROS: MUST READ!!!
I hate to be the bearer of bad news and i HOPE what i'm about to tell you is wrong, but if history is anything to go by then this information is as accurate as far as history and rationale is concerned.
1. MMM will reopen for sure in January like they say but not like most of you are thinking; please before you partake in any form of system or organisation do your research and understand how it works, and where it has worked.
2. MMM will not start paying out all it's frozen mavros immediately come January, This info i have known for a couple of months now (in case it crashes) because MMM has existed in other countries, crashed in those countries, and reopened again, now i'll tell you how they did it there and that's what they'll most likely do here (Nigeria).
First and foremost when you say MMM crashed in other countries, it is actually mavros being frozen, not the site shut down or they run away,etc so those saying it hasn't crashed should also agree that it didn't crash in the other countries where this scenario played out, because this is exactly what happened in those places(i know because i have a profile on about 3 other local mmm platforms; RSA, india and China).
DON'T BE SCARED YOUR MONEY WILL BE REFUNDED.
Will your money be refunded?, emphatically yes!!!, but don't think you will GH in January and say bye, this is why;
RATIONALE: if you just GH and go who will PH for you to receive?, because in January everyone will be GHing, and in these kind of situations there is no solidarity, no one will be a good samaritan/Guinea pig to give you their money to make you happy, so you already know this is not a very feasible option and Mavrodi (a seasoned Mathematician and Psychologist) knows this, and hence in times past had devised a means to see to it that you come back and trust me you will.
So Mavrodi won't let you off that easy, here is how you'll MOST LIKELY be refunded:
HISTORY: Get ready for the real RAT RACE, AND MAZE RUNNER2.0.
If you are thinking come January you are done with MMM once you GH please have a rethink because you are not:
First before you can collect your frozen money you'll have to PH first, i.e to say in January there'll be no GHin only PHing,
After you PH you'll get your usual 30% plus an added 10% of what you PHed as part payment of you frozen mavros, and this will continue until all your frozen mavros have been payed, in other words you need to keep PHing till you get your full money back. This singular act is literally the only way to resuscitate the system, and enable you get your money back. if not, there will be no one daring enough to PH in January after this.
EXAMPLE:
you have 200k of frozen mavros, come january you won't be able to withdraw your 200k directly, you need to pledge, lets say another 100k(it could be any amount actually, but for easy arithmetic) .
when you do this you get you normal, 130k + 10k (10% of 100k), now at this point your frozen mavros will be 190k, so you will need to keep PHing until your full 200k is paid.
I STILL HOPE I'M WRONG AND THAT THEY HAVE ALTERNATIVE ARRANGEMENTS FROM WHAT THEY'VE DONE BEFORE, BUT THIS IS THE MMM SYSTEM. Pls spread the news.




DiS is probably wat the new model wil be.
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by MrEverest(m): 9:46pm On Dec 16, 2016
cheleku:
Keep living in delusion. Have you ever asked how MMM makes the humongous profits it pays you? I wonder how we churn out daft heads from our schools; fools that can't even analyse simple math problems.
It is you that is the big fool. In your little, hypocritical and worthless mind, you have suddenly become wise and analytical right? Have you asked your government and politicians what they are doing with tax payers money and our resources?? Keep wasting your energy in asking stvpid questions. What gave you the impression that you are better than those doing mmm? Retard.ed psychos feeling funky!
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by Opakan2: 9:47pm On Dec 16, 2016
so far farano is fine.. I'm okay
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by rinzylee(m): 9:49pm On Dec 16, 2016
DonCortino:
Its their chance to help crash d system. But they will fail.

And for those saying mmm south africa has crashed, d site is up n running and peeps are PHing and GHing.
m.rsa-mmm(dot)co
Proof please..... Cos the website has disappeared.
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by jackydon(m): 9:51pm On Dec 16, 2016
THE GREEDY GUIDERS KILLED THE SYSTEM BY GETTING HELP WITHOUT PROVIDING HELP.
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by ChrisArs: 9:51pm On Dec 16, 2016
Wake up and face reality
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by Ekeolu(m): 9:53pm On Dec 16, 2016
I don't know why some pple drink panadol for another person's headache. Everything about life is a risk, when you put your money into baba ijebu you don't complain if you loose and the same thing goes for other scheme. If you venture into a business which results in a loss you won't kill yourself. Life goes on my pple and is matter of time all this noise will stop but I still believe in MMM season 2.
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by DonCortino: 10:02pm On Dec 16, 2016
rinzylee:
Proof please..... Cos the website has disappeared.
I posted it nah!
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by justmi1: 10:03pm On Dec 16, 2016
It beats my imagination to know that many MMM fateful are still so optimistic in the scheme despite the glaring and obvious facts. It makes me sick to know that people want to reap without sowing, even we wey dey do legitimate business never see 30% ROI, then some people would sleep at home and wait for 30%, then they put some much, that even start a cool business, the problem with us, is greed from leaders to followers, it's sad.
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by dyabman(m): 10:04pm On Dec 16, 2016
Nothing survives in Nigeria , except Poverty and Corruption grin
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by 775chris(m): 10:05pm On Dec 16, 2016
mmm will be back soon (MMM) mass money missing
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by Charlesberry(m): 10:05pm On Dec 16, 2016
metrosexual:
Look, please be analytical in your thinking, saying MMM doesn't have a central bank account sounds like reasoning from a child, MMM admins control the system, they control who is paired with who to provide help(pay), doesn't that give you a clue that they can pair all the big PH to their designated bank accounts?

They came up with a 50% offer and started pairing people faster than it was done before, that's how they channelled all the large PH amounts to their designated accounts, if just 10 MMM admins in Nigeria have 10 bank accounts each, that would be 100 bank accounts, they can pair all the large PH amounts of like N3million to their various accounts.
If you wanted to PH worth N3million and MMM admin pairs you to a Mr A would you not pay? And they would do same thing to thousands of other large PH amounts to their bank accounts, they got all the monies during this 50% period and systematically cashed out.

January ain't far, by then the mirage must have cleared from the eyes of those of you whom MMM deceived and possessed.
You no get sense at all. I just d laff you
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by preacherz: 10:06pm On Dec 16, 2016
MMM has Crashed!!! grin grin grin you wish....

I PHed 100k today and boy o boy instantly got 25k as my Bonus! My mavro go deh grow and I won't be matched until January....

Have any of these haters thought about MMM Nigeria mandating all Guider's and moderators (close to 150,000 people)to PH a minimum of 200khuh Will de system not come back to lifehuh

Again how about making it compulsory that every MMM participant in Nigeria to PH a minimum of 20k before January 14th..... or face being blockedhuh

Again peps.... how about MMM Nigeria making it compulsory that 25% of old mavro will be paid along with new PH. eg you have 500k as your old Mavro and then PH 100k and after 30days the system pays you 130k plus 25% of 500k (125,000) and leaving your old balance as 375,000. This means you will need to continue to PH gradually until your old Mavro is paid in full, that way people won't run away from the system and rather they'll start getting used to the system again that they wont even want to leave again.

So fellow Nairalanders let's stop believing we know it all. After all ur name no be google!!!!

MMM will give us a juicy January.

Shallom
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by FlyboyZee: 10:08pm On Dec 16, 2016
mctowel01:
And if they pretend not to be pained, do you have a problem with it or you actually want people pained so you can make mockery?
You re a pathetic person..Get a life
Another dumbo spotted...
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by Slimpotter(m): 10:08pm On Dec 16, 2016
cupidFlint:
We were warned to invest with our spare money which I personally did. am not even disturbed. if it comes back on in January, which I doubt it would, then good for us, if it doesn't so be it. The greatest blame should be on the present government cos if our economy had been buoyant these folks wouldn't have come in the first place.
Very wrong analysis.... Countries going in nd out of recession is nt new... start becoming realistic,besides the government warned.
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by CzarChris(m): 10:11pm On Dec 16, 2016
A professor friend of mine who lectures in one of the top 10 universities in the world,once wrote an article on how to recognise a failed economy.

1. High rate of prostitution.
2. High rate of gambling(MMM)
3. Religious extremism.

My people, abeg doesn't this signs reck of the current Nigerian situation?
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by preacherz: 10:11pm On Dec 16, 2016
rinzylee:
Proof please..... Cos the website has disappeared.
MMM South Africa is as functional as ever!!! Stop allowing your Hatred for MMM reason for you
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by LuckyLadolce(m): 10:12pm On Dec 16, 2016
cramjones:
As always, I would comment on contemporary issues that affect the Nigerian populace. All for love of Nigeria. Even though I believe that Nigeria as it stands is close to a failed state, we can all do more through visionary leadership to emancipate our country from the cesspit that has gutted it. That said, I have followed closely the MMM phenomenon since it came to my attention, and as it is normal of my analytical mind, I have taken time to study the trend, review historical facts, and all other data available to me. After this review I have therefore, come to the following conclusions on the fate of MMM.

1. For those that are hoping MMM would suddenly resurface in January because the Nigerian planter's wife said so in a note, are definitely setting themselves up for depression. Nothing of such would happen. This is the deal, MMM is not an investment it is a gamble. The money is only redistributed therefore the system would crash when two conditions occur - something that has already taken place - and these conditions are as follows:

[/b]-When new comers or "help providers" exceeds those who want to receive "help" it sets the stage for a crash[b]

-When those withdrawing exceeds a critical amount needed to keep it rolling regardless of the number of people joining, then the system would crash.

I believe these two conditions have been met. Christmas time is a time no one wants to give money, rather they want to be helped, with the overwhelming withdrawals that far exceeded the "help providers" the system had to be shut down, because money does not grow on trees.

2. If MMM ever have a blinker to open, which I doubt very much in January as stated in their later, there would be a state of panic withdrawals, and there would be sharp decline of the new people that would have otherwise joined. This panic withdrawals, would lead the MMM handlers to shut it down completely and take with them whatever is left of the system.

3. The other reason MMM had to shut down early December is more likely than not to ensure maximum "cash outs" by the handlers. At this time there is an all time high of money in the system because people put in most of what they had to ensure they get good cash for the Christmas, this high would not happen any other time of the year, so this was the best time for the handlers to cash out big, and I believe they already did.

Finally, the MMM phenomenon further shows the failed system of Nigeria. This system only flourishes in this magnitude in failed countries. It thrived in Russia during the collapse of the Soviet Union, failed Zimbabwe, thrived in failed parts of South Africa, like Soweto. People have lost hope in any decent labor or lack of jobs thereof. Other are greedy and sometimes plain dumb.

Good luck to everyone "waiting" in trepidation to get help. I wish you luck.

God Bless the Federal Republic of Nigeria

-CramJones
I lost my respect for you bro. Your research is very poor and you are analyzing what you don't understand. @the bold just exposed you completely. I didn't even bother to read further after reading the bold. You messed up big time.
Re: Prediction And Analysis On The Future Of MMM - Cramjones by streamsofjoy(f): 10:21pm On Dec 16, 2016
ovieigho:
Let not decieve ourselves anymore ,the January time won't come.it is all over but watch out for similar scheme in the next ten years and take precaution.

In order news there is still hope for MMM if ultimate cycler can come back to life ! Then MMM can
Join the moving train .....WhatsApp me to register
I thought u were going to just end ur post with the first paragraph. So surprised to see u call for referrals into ultimate cycle. Guy this has just showed u are only a bad belle. if MMM whose site has not been hacked crashed according to u, wat more of ultimate cycler whose site has not been able to recover from "upgrade" and recently- Hacking.u just a jealous and angry fellow. Grow up.
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