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| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 5:47pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
I do-I see it as it is.. achorladey: |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 5:55pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
By the word of God every word is written.. Because you don't understand-it doesn't mean we don't understand it. If Solite3 or Johnw74 see's the Word differently then I, it doesn't mean it isn't there. God speaks to us all-in ways we understand the Word of God. Don't forget we are His children, and we are all made different. Pretty simple to understand.. dolphinheart: |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 6:10pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
Yes he is. akintom: |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 6:13pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
Well then you don't believe in the bible..Which of course you don't believe in Jesus. dolphinheart: |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 6:41pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
achorladey:which question? |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 6:44pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
achorladey:before I answer your question answer my own first. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 6:47pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
solite3:@ achorladey |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 6:59pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
solite3:Did you read my last response to your post? By now you should have your answer. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 7:19pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
achorladey:OK you also have your answer. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by achorladey: 7:24pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 9:29pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
johnw74:your post confirms my words, you could not explain the verses I quoted. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 9:37pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
brocab:STOP LYING , I QUOTED THE SCRIPTURES WHERE IT IS SAID THAT JESUS GAVE UP HIS SPIRIT!. I HAVE ALSO QUOTED WHAT THE SCRIPTURE SAYS HAPPEN TO A PERSON WHEN HIS SPIRIT GOES OUT. I ALSO SHOWED WHERE THE SCRIPTURE SAID JESUS GAVE HIS LIFE! YOU SAY JESUS DID NOT DIE, YET JESUS SAID HE WAS DEAD! |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 9:42pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
brocab:haha, so you don't accept every word in the KJV, yet you say it is accurate. you twist all the time brocab, you are not rooted to a stand. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 9:50pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
brocab:To respect you does not mean I should not tell you the truth, expecially my view of your character and actions. Doesn't your god teach, correct those in love: I myself find no fault in Johnw74, matter of fact i would rather pat him on the back, for putting up with the liking's of you.There is a big difference between correction and commendation, you are commending something that is wrong. Is this how you punish your own-ripping into them, condemning them, calling them lairs and abusing them, judging them, against your god.I punish no one, if you lie, I tell you that you lied, and I'll show you where and when you lied. It's not in my place to punish anyone. Have you not read, first pull the speck out from your eye-before you pull the speck out from someone else's eye.pls provide evidence. you have added mind reading to your claims yes, they are proud in a good way. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 9:59pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
brocab:I'm not going to follow your unprovable claims, some like you, use such statements and will say the NIV is right and the KJV is wrong when you look at 1 ti 3: 16. some pastors here, anytime they want to lie, they will tell you it's the spirit of God that is talking to them. They use such method like you are trying to do cud they know it cannot be easily verified. The truth about 1st timothy 3:16 can be verified all one has to do is look at the manuscripts available that contain that verse. You will see their is no Greek word for " God " in that verse. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 10:01pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 10:09pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
brocab:stop lying against me, no where have I sweare that the NIV bible(as a whole) is true and correct. missing scriptures?, I prefer to call it removal of false additions to the scriptures. They are not in the best oldest available manuscripts, so they are not missing customers they are not their in the first place.[/quote]You said it yourself-all these other bible's are correct, leaving the KJV standing.[/quote]so me where I said so, I'll explain to you what I said since you are trying to twist the meaning of my words. No I don't want to study with you-until you receive the Spirit of God-you have no chance..I don't want to study with you until you drop those dubious behavior, until you start to read the scriptures with a sincere mind, until you stop avoiding verses that exposes you. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 10:15pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
brocab:where do you think the editing took place, go read my post carefully and understand. I said he edits my post when quoting me!. When you quote someone, does the post you quoted come out in green or in white, everyone knows it's in green, so your excuse is untenable. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 10:23pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
brocab:brocab, the issue in not about understanding, the issue is about the words written, before you talk about understandING, you must first know the words written. The words "the man is good" can be undertood by different people in different ways, but if someone comes and now says the real word is " the boy is good", how do you know which of the two different sentences is the right one, because it is after knowing which sentence is right and which one is false, that you can now start trying to understand it's meaning. so now brocab, now if someone says he too asks God for answers and God told him that that the words of that verse where not inspired by him, what will you do, how do we know which one of you is right? |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 10:27pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
brocab:all you needed to do is to show that my answer is wrong about John 1:1. pls try and do so. You brought two options, I chosed one of them, pls proof that my option is wrong. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 11:55pm On Dec 20, 2016*. Modified: 1:51am On Dec 21, 2016 |
dolphinheart: dolphinheart: dolphinheart: dolphinheart: dolphinheart:a/c dolphinheart of course the over and over again continual repeated lies and false accusing which is what you do best and oh what confusion ha ha ![]() dolphinheart:I told you you were just grand standing, big mouthing, you want to address those Alpha and omega first and last verses but you won't go and reply to all those posts I wrote that expose you they are not to far back in this thread, there are a few pages of them, they are easy to find lie lie reply to those verses like you say you want to or continue a coward we know which it will be, dont we a/c dolphinheart dolphinheart:oh but I did address those scriptures and I gave you a link to that just yeaterday oh great antichrist lie lie here i will adress them again: verses 23, 18, 5, and 8, Christ was first resurrected from the dead, but that not why He is the "first and the last" though, He is the first and the last because He is God the first and the last, the Alpha and the Omega John rightly called Him "the Almighty" rev 1:8 you may see in your verse there rev 2:8 that Jesus the first and the last became dead, Jesus was the "first and the last" before He became dead, He is not the "first and the last because He was the first resurrected, oh continual lie lie show me where I lie you say, ha ha in about your every post that's where a/c ![]() |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 12:23am On Dec 21, 2016 |
I don't have to prove that {John 1:1 the Word is God} "EXIST" all I have to do is believe. And the other, the evidence "lies" with you. dolphinheart: |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 12:29am On Dec 21, 2016 |
brocab: dolphinheart:bro, the twister dolphinheart not only falsely accuses, but a/c has stolen my laugh Joh_10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 12:45am On Dec 21, 2016 |
Well you say you are a believer in bible knowledge-well you work it out. Or do I have the rights to judge you-by your fruits, because I say you are confused-you say it isn't about understanding, and yet you don't understand-between the man is good or the boy is good. Every sentence comes with understanding, some people call men, boy's-meaning they are preferring to the same sentence. Ask and you will receive, knock and it will be open, seek and you will find {Matthew 7:7} Meaning ask God and read from the bible that suits you and find your answers... This is the problems we have in this world-people writing bibles twisting or changing the word of God out from them, confuses people like you.. As I have said many times we need the Spirit of God to show us all truth.. dolphinheart: |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 1:31am On Dec 21, 2016 |
As I said the bible is accurate. I call Jehovah a misprint, before or after it was printed by the JW's on their own pressers.. The name Jehovah didn't reach it's mark throughout all of the KJV, seven times it was mentioned in the Old testament, not once it was mentioned in the New Testament. One word doesn't make a difference, because I already know the Lord's name is correct-when His name is the Word and the Word was God, I AM THAT I AM, YHWH Yahweh.. What you are not understanding you are to busy worshipping the Jehovah name, instead of reading the scriptures, and still you don't know who your God really is? It is far to important to know God through faith in Jesus Christ, then it is to know the correct pronunciation of His name in Hebrew. With all of that said, it is not crucial to the Christian faith for the proper pronunciation of YHWH to be knowing both of the Old and New Testaments, inspired by God, use generic terms for "God and Lord" including EL, ELOHIM, and ADONAI {HEBREW} and THEO'S, and KURIOS {GREEK} If the authors of the scripture, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, were allowed to use these terms, it is not wrong for us to refer to Him as "God and Lord. dolphinheart: |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw74: 1:45am On Dec 21, 2016 |
dolphinheart:lie lie dolphinheart you are proud in your lies you are proud in teaching that the Word is "a god" you are proud in teaching that Christs body was not resurrected you are proud in teaching that almighty God and mighty God are two diffrent god's you are proud in denying that the Word Jesus Christ is God at every opportunity and against so many scriptures you are proud of not believing the Bible your pride is evil and of course is from satan dolphinheart:I posted many scriptures showing that Jesus is God but of course you a/c dolphinheart doesn't believe the Bible and desperately want's to have people believe that the Word Jesus Christ is not God. Of course you fail lie lie, to all but the blind. a/c dolphinheart is a dubious person ![]() 2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 8:56am On Dec 21, 2016*. Modified: 9:49am On Dec 21, 2016 |
Dolphinheart-I wish I knew where you are coming from at times-but as sadly as this sounds I don't know. {1 Timothy 3:16} Makes no difference to me, both the NIV and the KJV are correct. I really can't see your problem in these two bible verses-either it's "He" or "God" both "He or God" are talking about One Lord. Jesus {"He or God"} was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, seen by angels, preached among the Gentiles, believed on in the world, Received up in glory... NIV-He appeared in the flesh. KJV-God was manifested in the flesh.. These scriptures are so simple to understand-Dolphinheart refusing to see God in the KJV-is not my concern, what concerns me, is the KJV recognises the truth, who Jesus is. This is why this bible is so popular, this same bible takes charge over every other bible that's written. It is only people like you, who will always disagree, only because like the rest of these so called bible scholars, everyone of you, are afraid of the truth that stands in the KJ bible. The KJV is used as a tool, only for the believers, without fear, we live by faith, and receive the glory of God Himself. I have found no other bible that I can say is true to it's word, these other bibles written by inspired so called bible scholars had either twisted the scriptures or they had removed them completely, in fear.. So people like yourself who listens to people like these so called bible scholars-will someday end up all together in your own condemnation in Hell. dolphinheart: |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 9:32am On Dec 21, 2016 |
brocabDont act like a dull person ,who asked you how many times it appeared ? if you are intelligent, you would know the basis of my question isnt how many times it appears BUT THAT IT APPEARED in the KJV which you cant deny Thanks for your time |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 9:43am On Dec 21, 2016 |
brocabMatter of fact ![]() Now, provide where KJV use the translation " Yahweh " ? For God |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 10:05am On Dec 21, 2016 |
Intelligent or not-makes no difference to me, The bible was written for even Children to understand-my writings are not my own-everything I write, is the truth about the Word Of God which of course belongs to the Lord. The name Jehovah may have appeared in the KJV but doesn't appear in the new KJV{Psalms 83:18} and it doesn't appear in all other bibles-but Lord or God is His rightful name. Barristter07: |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 11:47am On Dec 21, 2016 |
brocab:I also believe that John 1:1 said the word was a god, but unlike you, I have evidence to support my believe, my believe did not come out of strong head devotion, it came out of study, knowing fully well that what I'm being taught is the truth, truth as revealed by the scriptures. If you claim a spirit teaches you, but the spirit teaches you something contrary to what the scriptures says, then that spirit is a bad spirit . If the spirit makes you vehemently refuse to answer scripturally based questions, then that spirit is false. If the spirit encourages you to lie on this thread , then that spirit is not the hope spirit. |
| Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by dolphinheart(m): 12:26pm On Dec 21, 2016 |
brocab:unfortunately, you keep missing the point, I don't know if it's deliberate or not. The issue is about the content of the verse we are supposed to understand and not the understanding between two different sentences. first one has to know which sentence is true and which is false before one has to understand the true sentence. let me explain to you with another example. A thousand years ago , a man made a statement, a thousand years later, some people said the statement made a thousand years ago was "the boy is good", others said it is not so , that the statement was " the mamost is good". We all know the man did not make both statements, he only made one statement, therefore one of the two statement is false. fortunately the man wrote his statement down, so brocab , pls tell me, what better way is their than using the record of that written statement to know which of the two statements is true, cus we know both cannot be true. It is after such verification that you can now try to understand the statement. such verification had been done on 1 timothy 3:16, the word "he" has been discovered to be the true word in that verse. mind you , before you claim it's the spirit that thought you, both sides can lay claim to the spirit teaching teaching them too. Every sentence comes with understanding, some people call men, boy's-meaning they are preferring to the same sentence.The issue is, what is the true statement , did the statement say "boy" or "man". Yes, you can understand the statement in different ways, depending on your truthfulness and aim, but the fact is, there was only one statement, not two, so which one is it. Ask and you will receive, knock and it will be open, seek and you will find {Matthew 7:7}But the scripture also encouraged us to study, if you ask God for the truth, he wunt give you contrary details to what is contained in the scriptures . Those you accuse of changing the scriptures also accuse you of adding to the scriptures in certain verses while saying it's the spirit of God that is guiding them. Even the text in which those accused got most of their words from had been found to be full of errors, even the author of those texts had to bring out numerous editions to correct some of those false words discovered. riptures daily to see whether these things were so. [b]Acts 17:11 King James Bible These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. |
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