onatisi:
#000000
And the account paid into doesn't belong to naira4$,abi?? This is simple common sense ,let the accused tell us when the money was claimed and by who.how hard is that for u to understand.all he needs to do is go through his transactions ,see who claimed the money,call the person and verify .

He can't my brother, cause he is the one who did it. You can't call yourself and verified from your own self, can you?

I am a law graduate, and I can tell you that what the OP has presented so far is what we call 'documentary evidence' under section 83, section 251-254 of the Evidence Act 2011, as amended. On the contrary, the accused have not by or use of such or equivalent documents be able to prove his innocence or disproved the fact in issue, even with sound reasoning. Hence, the burden of proof still lies at his door.

Until he does so, he remain a scam from which other innocent and unsuspecting Nigerians must be saved.

This is just one of so many examples why PayPal is limiting Nigerians account.

Oga Seun and Tabbaz, I say TAKE OVER!

Abeos:
From what I've read so far, I can conclude that there's more to this case. Naira4dollar might have not scammed the man but would know the person that did it

In criminal law an accomplice is as guilty as the thief.... Know what aiding and abetting is all about? Is a serious offence under the Criminal and Penal codes respectively.

enolife2:

It seem like you don't know exactly what you saying.

I put up this threat because I could not believe a scammer can scam me using Naira4dollar account number.

point 1: his account number his associated in the scam deal

Naira4dollar has fully accepted that The money I sent was credited into his account but one of his customer (scammer ) use the transaction details to claim the btc.

Every one here has ask Naira4dollar to use the transaction details I submitted to trace the person (scammer) account and inform us he has details of the scammer so that we can track the scammer down with security agent.

point 2: he knows every thing about the scammer


why is he so difficult for him to speak he has trace the scammer account.

why are you the one speaking on his behalf on this matter since morning

Please we will need your member ID and payment details to be able to trace your transactions. The phone number (08173291***) we could get to reach you is not reachable.

Like we always warn, we don't and have never taken orders outside our office or website. You were a victim on an internet scammer who created a fake facebook account to lure people. There has always been warning on our site and social accounts but you decided to ignore and deal with scammers.

Thanks @OP for dis insightful update...

Superstar007:
Reading through the thread, I noticed that people missed an important detail.

- If the fb account is not that of Naira4dollar, how did the supposed scammer get Op's wallet address to send the btc he bought the first time since the screenshot didn't indicate the op sending his wallet address?

@op, answer this question to clear doubts. I have been following this post until I read something different at bolded.

i was trying to explain that to him if not for the useless mods that banned me

i was going to ask for the facebook's page details as well , it may have been someone else afterall these fraudsters clone anything cloneable


i always order through the site,no one else can tell me to do otherwise , but since i do not represent N4$ THERE's a little i can say without being attacked

naira4doll:
10 years in business, 7 offices and all we can scam is 22,700??

Please what is your Order ID, proof of payment, the emails you sent to us requesting for refund?

We don't and have never given out our accounts via chat or phone, all orders must be either via our site or website else, you didn't deal with Naira4Dollar.

Sorry to derail but are you kidding me right now ??

You want justice for 22k, PEJ has excess of 1Tr and you have not wanted justice?

A scammer is known to groom his victims , what did MMM do ? Offer 30% and pay out bonus so people got confident and Ph'ed all their money

My point being , Naira4Dollar did not scam this guy , anybody could have been behind that facebook page and like someone said , the scammer may have funded his own wallet with your money , N4$ is not at liberty to share any details with OP especially for being rude , apart from the fact that it's a violation of ethics, it is also a long process as thousands of transactions are carried out online perday across the nation , this is not a case of CTRL + F and type transaction number , it is waaaay more complex

but i will shutup here before anyone asks me to and unfollow the thread

chiefkpokp:
this naira4dollars have different monikers, but all of you, no matter how,were u come in....you have failed already, like onitisi will say, if by end of today, you dont refund that money,or you dont provide the scammer, Ur carrier don die be that. Nobody is interested wether naira4dollars go down or not, what we are interested is justice must take place. And please for people quoting the naira4dollars moniker, make sure you are quoting the name correctly. for those saying the op should go to the police,you and the accuse is 5&6 and beside no one will ever go close to police for this matter,for that small money, we will rubbish that naira4dollars.

Hmmmm good question , are you implying that Naira4Dollar automatically has every customer's wallet address ??


The OP left that part out probably so that no one will track his transaction history on blockchain

The question was good at the time, but i am sure if he posts the full details of the convo , he provided the details to scammer

and NO N4$ does not know or have your wallet address , You always provide them during transactions

Superstar007:
Reading through the thread, I noticed that people missed an important detail.

- If the fb account is not that of Naira4dollar, how did the supposed scammer get Op's wallet address to send the btc he bought the first time since the screenshot didn't indicate the op sending his wallet address?

U better do... not sure you follow this post from the starting, so non go involve yourself, just dey ur lane for now....

GMBuhari:
Sorry to derail but are you kidding me right now ??

You want justice for 22k, PEJ has excess of 1Tr and you have not wanted justice?

A scammer is known to groom his victims , what did MMM do ? Offer 30% and pay out bonus so people got confident and Ph'ed all their money

My point being , Naira4Dollar did not scam this guy , anybody could have been behind that facebook page and like someone said , the scammer may have funded his own wallet with your money , N4$ is not at liberty to share any details with OP especially for being rude , apart from the fact that it's a violation of ethics, it is also a long process as thousands of transactions are carried out online perday across the nation , this is not a case of CTRL + F and type transaction number , it is waaaay more complex

but i will shutup here before anyone asks me to and unfollow the thread

chiefkpokp:
U better do... not sure you follow this post from the starting, so non go involve yourself, just dey ur lane for now....

If you wanted me to ignore the thread you shouldn't have mentioned me again, but then feel free to go to the first page, I was FTC to clarify n4$ does not scam


Perhaps you should pay more attention

naira4doll:


Please we will need your member ID and payment details to be able to trace your transactions. The phone number (08173291***) we could get to reach you is not reachable.

Like we always warn, we don't and have never taken orders outside our office or website. You were a victim on an internet scammer who created a fake facebook account to lure people. There has always been warning on our site and social accounts but you decided to ignore and deal with scammers.

Are you asking me to give you the scammer member ID? which you fully know that I don't know it. you can trace and identify all your customers including the scammer member ID by checking the order alert they sent to you as they place order on your site




my payment details
Remarks/ transaction Details

000013161217141713000034717094 USSD NIP Transfer from : 08088412196 TO FB/SUNEJ GLOBAL VENTURES LTD

check or look for the customer who submit ed exact transaction details above when placing order on the Saturday, 17/12/2016 to Monday 19/12/2016 on your site

That phone number you give above is not my

GMBuhari:
Hmmmm good question , are you implying that Naira4Dollar automatically has every customer's wallet address ??


The OP left that part out probably so that no one will track his transaction history on blockchain

The question was good at the time, but i am sure if he posts the full details of the convo , he provided the details to scammer

and NO N4$ does not know or have your wallet address , You always provide them during transactions

Is it that you read but don't understand? or you just want to talk offside?

If you don't understand go and re- read from page 1 but if you want to talk offside kindly keep quite before you involved yourself into to problem

enolife2:

Is it that you read but don't understand? or you just want to talk offside?

If you don't understand go and re- read from page 1 but if you want to talk offside kindly keep quite before you involved yourself into to problem

Read page one yourself you'll see my response there

so many question begging for answers from n4$. if someone used your official bank account to scam someone, a supposed verified customer of yours, common sense and morality demand that you do everything possible to trace this scammer out and expose he or she.

To those of you trying to turn this issue against op, you are not helping n4$ if you think you are. Let assumed op was played, was smartly taking advantage of, business sense, common sense, sense of morality demand that n4$ should provide the details of the verified customer/scammer and call in the police of efcc.

However and whichever way you want to look at it naira4dollar has much to loose here. I need bitcoins. been to naira4dollar to make order which I didn't so as to conduct due diligence and since then have been dragging my frets. why? because of story like this.

if naira4dollar is a reputable organization which value integrity and customers loyalty, my advice is to do the needful. your official bank account was used.

enolife2:

Are you asking me to give you the scammer member ID? which you fully know that I don't know it. you can trace and identify all your customers including the scammer member ID by checking the order alert they sent to you as they place order on your site




my payment details
Remarks/ transaction Details

000013161217141713000034717094 USSD NIP Transfer from : 08088412196 TO FB/SUNEJ GLOBAL VENTURES LTD

check or look for the customer who submit ed exact transaction details above when placing order on the Saturday, 17/12/2016 to Monday 19/12/2016 on your site

That phone number you give above is not my

naira4doll here is op details and to me is enough to trace out from your database who the scammer is.

enolife2:

Are you asking me to give you the scammer member ID? which you fully know that I don't know it. you can trace and identify all your customers including the scammer member ID by checking the order alert they sent to you as they place order on your site




my payment details
Remarks/ transaction Details

000013161217141713000034717094 USSD NIP Transfer from : 08088412196 TO FB/SUNEJ GLOBAL VENTURES LTD

check or look for the customer who submit ed exact transaction details above when placing order on the Saturday, 17/12/2016 to Monday 19/12/2016 on your site

That phone number you give above is not my

We have asked you severally to give us your member ID. First step is knowing that you are our customer. You can't ask us to search thousands of daily transactions blindly. We need your member ID or email on our site. (You can email them to us for privacy sake).

I read someone ask how did the scammer fund the complainant the first time He/she placed order

It's simple. Identify the difference between the 1st and supposed 2nd Order. The first order as the complainant claimed was through our website and he/she was funded by us because HE PLACED THE ORDER ON OUR WEBSITE AND WAS FUNDED BY US AND NOT ANY SCAMMER. The second supposed payment, HE/SHE DID NOT PLACE THE ORDER ON OUR WEBSITE, HE/SHE APPROACHED A SCAMMER WHO ASKED HIM/HER TO PAY, THEN USED HIS/HER PAYMENT DETAILS TO CLAIM THE BTC FROM OUR WEBSITE.

The difference is clear, we did our job when due process was followed.

We are also interested in identifying the scammer and will take legal actions. First step, we need to identify you as our customer if truly you were scammed. You can also visit any of our 7 offices.

naira4doll:


We have asked you severally to give us your member ID. First step is knowing that you are our customer. You can't ask us to search thousands of daily transactions blindly. We need your member ID or email on our site. (You can email them to us for privacy sake).

I read someone ask how did the scammer fund the complainant the first time He/she placed order

It's simple. Identify the difference between the 1st and supposed 2nd Order. The first order as the complainant claimed was through our website and he/she was funded by us because HE PLACED THE ORDER ON OUR WEBSITE AND WAS FUNDED BY US AND NOT ANY SCAMMER. The second supposed payment, HE/SHE DID NOT PLACE THE ORDER ON OUR WEBSITE, HE/SHE APPROACHED A SCAMMER WHO ASKED HIM/HER TO PAY, THEN USED HIS/HER PAYMENT DETAILS TO CLAIM THE BTC FROM OUR WEBSITE.

The difference is clear, we did our job when due process was followed.

We are also interested in identifying the scammer and will take legal actions. First step, we need to identify you as our customer if truly you were scammed. You can also visit any of our 7 offices.

sent to one of your business line 0809 431********

vizboy:


I think it more of a middle man thing.

The person he chatted with made him pay into the company account and collected the btc for his own use

Op! kindly upload the number you used in contacting sunej & let others confirm that the number belongs to sunej. if phone nos & bank account nos belong to sunej I don't see how op could have paid to anyone other than sunej as he contacted them before then transfer went thru due to network delay.

I really like N4$ and has been transacting with them since 2007, I am sure OP wasnt scammed by N4$, but i have noticed a severe reluctance by Naira4Dollar and their team towards refunding or even replying Customers.

Customer Service is really a very great tool in this online business. Order ID 100406978 has remain untreated since October 6,2016 after more than 20 Emails and web forms. You seriously suck at Customer Service. I didnt want to escalate issues because of the long Customer relationship I have enjoyed with you over the years, so please make it a point of duty to have a fleet of customer service personnel.

In the case of the OP, he said he has transacted with you many other times on that facebook id, I remember back in the days when clients transacted with u in such manners, I called u over the phone and transferred funds to your account severally, so please try to contact the client and treat this case with a great sense of Urgency.

enolife2:


sent to one of your business line 0809 431********

Please email us the details support@sunej.com

naira4doll:


Please email us the details support@sunej.com

I will never advice my enemy to transact business with your organisation!
Your customer care service is very poor both online & at your shops!
I dislike to speak evil of other people business but a visit to your shop makes me realize that your organization lacks a lot!

@OP should post both first and second transaction details.
Post your member ID, naira4dolllar should look towards into the transaction.
Simple....

naira4doll:

Please email us the details support@sunej.com

sent

bmxshop:


I really like N4$ and has been transacting with them since 2007, I am sure OP wasnt scammed by N4$, but i have noticed a severe reluctance by Naira4Dollar and their team towards refunding or even replying Customers.

Customer Service is really a very great tool in this online business. Order ID 100406978 has remain untreated since October 6,2016 after more than 20 Emails and web forms. You seriously suck at Customer Service. I didnt want to escalate issues because of the long Customer relationship I have enjoyed with you over the years, so please make it a point of duty to have a fleet of customer service personnel.

In the case of the OP, he said he has transacted with you many other times on that facebook id, I remember back in the days when clients transacted with u in such manners, I called u over the phone and transferred funds to your account severally, so please try to contact the client and treat this case with a great sense of Urgency.

It was the treatment/response I got from his surulere office that make me open this threat. Those staff have no time for you except you want to buy e-currency in their office, any other issues don't matter to them.

gametalk:
@OP should post both first and second transaction details.
Post your member ID, naira4dolllar should look towards into the transaction.
Simple....

All sent to his business phone number and email.

Attention: Naira4Dollar, You see the same thing we all saying, communication is key to online business, You just sent Bitcoins to an address I discarded 4 months ago, and now the funds and the coins are lost, what happens to simple email communication asking me to update my bitcoin wallet.

I think both moderator,seun,puski abi puskitin,tabbaz all this people are on the side of this scammer called naira4dollars.com, naira4dollar.com. naira4dollar or sunej , even if this post is deleted or i am ban. this will still be index in google....... Everybody run with your 1cent otherwise this company will rip you off your money..... If the moderator know what he his doing, he or she out to have trash this issue out, either to verify....... If you see small scammers, you people will be fast to rush to crime watch and place both the person details including date of his birth, d hospital he was given birth to, even the color of the last shit when him shit. but look at comon criminal who have been ripping people off codely here posting freely......Na God Go help una........

Nairaland why changing my threat title? did I break any rules. Any way you can change the tittle but the message will never change even if this threat is deleted except Naira4dollar solve the problem.

naira4doll:

Please email us the details support@sunej.com

am still waiting your reply

chiefkpokp:
I think both moderator,seun,puski abi puskitin,tabbaz all this people are on the side of this scammer called naira4dollars.com, naira4dollar.com. naira4dollar or sunej , even if this post is deleted or i am ban. this will still be index in google....... Everybody run with your 1cent otherwise this company will rip you off your money..... If the moderator know what he his doing, he or she out to have trash this issue out, either to verify....... If you see small scammers, you people will be fast to rush to crime watch and place both the person details including date of his birth, d hospital he was given birth to, even the color of the last shit when him shit. but look at comon criminal who have been ripping people off codely here posting freely......Na God Go help una........

Frankly speaking and for God's sake ...I sold my bitcoin on Naira4dollar and got paid same day...just like after 4 hours ..thought it wasn't much ..just #3600