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Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by plainbibletruth: 10:34pm On Feb 05, 2017

Empiree:
Stop wasting your time my friend. Why not tell ALL Americans everything in your Bible Old and New T.?.

If you ask them about christianity, they only tell u "Jesus is god, give charity and be peaceful to neighbours" etc.

But they never tell them bible says to kill whoever changes religion, whoever fornicatesd should be killed, whoever rebels parent should be killed, whoever blasphemes should be killed, dont eat pork, Jesus said to kill whoever would not submit to him etc. All these are in the bible but they dont preach it to goers.

Preach these publicly in the USA and you see christianity disappears

A quick education: Christianity STARTED after Christ instituted it. Many things in the Old Testament DO NOT apply to Christianity.

But you Muslims claim that all the Quran is still applicable today. So will you people really TELL all there is about Islam or go the route of MISINFORMATION?

My take is ONLY what appears to be "good" will be presented as what Islam stands for and not the 'real deal'.

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Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by Empiree: 10:46pm On Feb 05, 2017

plainbibletruth:
A quick education: Christianity STARTED after Christ instituted it. Many things in the Old Testament DO NOT apply to Christianity.

You keep digging holes for yourself. The only way you can argue successfully is by pointing out from your bible where Jesus claimed to bring CHRISTIANITY. I dont want fallacies or unfounded stories.

Second, you said many things in the old testaments do not apply to christianity, really?. Since you claimed Jesus brought christianity, then, why did he refer to old law in the new testament?. This question remained unanswered by christians except to tell us nonsense.

Jesus said Old Laws stand. He did not soften old testament. This is New Testament where Jesus is speaking.

“For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” — Matthew 5:18-19

“It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid.” (Luke 16:17)

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place.”(Matthew 5:17)

“Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law” (John7:19)

So clearly, Old Testament and its Laws stand. I dont want to hear fallacies from you or try to interpret these verses to mean it is parable. They are plain and clear. John 7 verse 19 is a bombshell..........FOLLOW THEM.

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Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by plainbibletruth: 11:11pm On Feb 05, 2017

Empiree:
You keep digging holes for yourself. The only way you can argue successfully is by pointing out from your bible where Jesus claimed to bring CHRISTIANITY. I dont want fallacies or unfounded stories.

Second, you said many things in the old testaments do not apply to christianity, really?. Since you claimed Jesus brought christianity, then, why did he refer to old law in the new testament?. This question remained unanswered by christians except to tell us nonsense

So clearly, Old Testament and its Laws stand.
....... They are plain and clear. John 7 verse 19 is a bombshell..........FOLLOW THEM.

Like I tried educating you but you seem bent on not be paying attention - the Church started AFTER Jesus Christ instituted it. Christianity DID NOT exist in the Old Testament.

The quran that you claim is still applicable today has many dark side many of you try to hide.
One of the ways you do so is by diverting attention away from isues in the quran to something else like you're doing RIGHT NOW.

Muslim PROPAGANDA has been refined over the years such that the UNSUSPECTING is easily fooled.

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Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by Empiree: 11:26pm On Feb 05, 2017

plainbibletruth:
Like I tried educating you but you seem bent on not be paying attention - the Church started AFTER Jesus Christ instituted it. .

Stop wasting your time my friend. Obviously you can not refute those bible verses..

I have no problem with church started after Jesus. That's true of course. But you reiterates here that Jesus "instituted it". What is "it" and where is your evidence of "it"?

Thanks

Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by plainbibletruth: 11:57pm On Feb 05, 2017

Empiree:
Stop wasting your time my friend. Obviously you can not refute those bible verses..

I have no problem with church started after Jesus. That's true of course. But you reiterates here that Jesus "instituted it". What is "it" and where is your evidence of "it"?

Thanks

The TRUTH is that the quran teaches hatred and hostility.

The Quran teaches inferiority of non-muslims NOT universal love or peace with others.

Islamic apologists who talk about their religion being one of PEACE deliberately remove something - the peace they claim applies ONLY to those who are 'brethren ' in Islam. The "peace" is not really with non-muslims.

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Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by Empiree: 1:28am On Feb 06, 2017

plainbibletruth:
The TRUTH is that the quran teaches hatred and hostility.

The Quran teaches inferiority of non-muslims NOT universal love or peace with others.

Islamic apologists who talk about their religion being one of PEACE deliberately remove something - the peace they claim applies ONLY to those who are 'brethren ' in Islam. The "peace" is not really with non-muslims.

Alright, bla bla bla....bla bla bla. Readers can see through your mind games. OBvIOUSLY you cant answer.

Let me rephrase the question but i dont need your answer anymore.

If Jesus Christ (may Allah's Blessings and Peace Be Upon him) brought christianity and he has nothing to do with old laws in the old testament, WHY he he say this in New Testament christian Bible?

“For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” — Matthew 5:18-19

“It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid.” (Luke 16:17)

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place.”(Matthew 5:17)

“Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law” (John7:19)

Those verses indicate Old Laws stand, that's why you still carry Old Testament today. If OT has nothing to do with christianity, why do you still use it in your churches?.

You dont have to answer anymore. You already failed to answer them. Hence, you do not have iota of right to point finger at Islam and muslims unless and until you take responsibility for Mosaic laws Old Laws CONFIRMED by Jesus himself.

Islam however let go of some of those Old Law and relieved us. For instance, Bible says if anyone changes religion he/she should be killed. Quran on the other hand say there is freedom of religion.

"Let there be no compulsion in religion" 2:256

Also, if someone commits adultery he/she is to be stoned according to Bible. But Quran says (with due process) he/she should be caned.

The list goes on. So you need to be quiet when islam speaks

Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by plainbibletruth: 9:50am On Feb 06, 2017

Empiree:
Alright, bla bla bla....bla bla bla. Readers can see through your mind games. OBvIOUSLY you cant answer.

Let me rephrase the question but i dont need your answer anymore.

If Jesus Christ (may Allah's Blessings and Peace Be Upon him) brought christianity and he has nothing to do with old laws in the old testament, WHY he he say this in New Testament christian Bible?

Islam however let go of some of those Old Law and relieved us. For instance, Bible says if anyone changes religion he/she should be killed. Quran on the other hand say there is freedom of religion.

"Let there be no compulsion in religion" 2:256

Also, if someone commits adultery he/she is to be stoned according to Bible. But Quran says (with due process) he/she should be caned.

The list goes on. So you need to be quiet when islam speaks

You are not paying attention!

Jesus said those things to those who lived BEFORE he established the Church.
Those things applied to them.
When he established the Church he set up a new system.

But you muslims claim your quran is still for today.

If so, how do you reconcile the quran's HATE LANGUAGE and HOSTILITY to
non-muslims with islam's PROPAGANDA machinery today that the quran talks
about PEACE with others and that it is accommodating towards non-muslims?
Where in the quran does it talk about living in peace with others?

Surely, islam is not telling it all.

Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by Empiree: 1:05pm On Feb 06, 2017

plainbibletruth:
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You are not paying attention!

Jesus said those things to those who lived BEFORE he established the Church.
Those things applied to them.
When he established the Church he set up a new system.

"He said those things to those who lived BEFORE he established Church". Where in the bible did Jesus set up church?

Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by Kaysalas(m): 4:37pm On Feb 06, 2017

Anybody with a working link to download the book kindly forward, having issues with the previous links

Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by plainbibletruth: 6:08pm On Feb 06, 2017

Empiree:
"He said those things to those who lived BEFORE he established Church". Where in the bible did Jesus set up church?

Jesus Christ addressed that issue in Matthew 16: 18.
Now that I've answered your simple quiz you answer my own question to you:

How do you reconcile the quran's HATE LANGUAGE and HOSTILITY to non-muslims with islam's PROPAGANDA machinery today that says the quran talks about PEACE with others and that it is accommodating towards non-muslims?

Where in the quran does it talk about living in peace with others?

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Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by Empiree: 9:55pm On Feb 06, 2017

plainbibletruth:
Jesus Christ addressed that issue in Matthew 16: 18.

smh....you call this an answer? Did jesus establish Christianity?. Did he institutionize obligatory set of prayers you do today?. That's what you refused to answer. He did not. When he was addressing people in the NT, he made no reference to Christians or Christianity. He told you to follow Old Laws and covenants....period.

Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by Empiree: 10:00pm On Feb 06, 2017

plainbibletruth:
How do you reconcile the quran's HATE LANGUAGE and HOSTILITY to non-muslims with islam's PROPAGANDA machinery today that says the quran talks about PEACE with others and that it is accommodating towards non-muslims?
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I don't know what you taking abou unless you prove yourself

This is what I found. The rain why they're is no peace everywhere today.

Read attachment shocked

Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by Empiree: 10:02pm On Feb 06, 2017

plainbibletruth:
Where in the quran does it talk about living in peace with others?[/b]

Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by Empiree: 5:11am On Feb 07, 2017

plainbibletruth:
Now that I've answered your simple quiz you answer my own question to you:

How do you reconcile the quran's HATE LANGUAGE and HOSTILITY to non-muslims with islam's PROPAGANDA machinery today that says the quran talks about PEACE with others and that it is accommodating towards non-muslims?

This is for you and parrisbookaddict. Help yourself. The dude is American and he knows better than you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGD7DT_O3lE

Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by Empiree: 5:48am On Feb 07, 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4pYAOBQfPw

parisbookaddict
plainbibletruth:

Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by parisbookaddict(op): 7:48am On Feb 07, 2017

Empiree:
Your prediction is NONSENSE.

See how Trump makes Americansense looking into islam like his brother Bush did

Lol
I keep telling you 2 things about muslm converts
1. 75 percent of converts leave islam after 3 years
2. The most vocal christian apologists are exmuslims
These are undisputed facts.
It does not bother me..
The al taqqiyya fed to them in that mosque will not last ..lol

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Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by plainbibletruth: 1:24pm On Feb 07, 2017

Empiree

Fantastic work on your part!

But you FORGOT these:
Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! Strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination."

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction."

Religion of Peace, indeed!

Remember my question?:

How do you reconcile the quran's HATE LANGUAGE and HOSTILITY to non-muslims with islam's PROPAGANDA machinery today that says the quran talks about PEACE with others and that it is accommodating towards non-muslims?

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Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by Empiree: 1:27pm On Feb 07, 2017

parisbookaddict:
Lol
I keep telling you 2 things about muslm converts
1. 75 percent of converts leave islam after 3 years
2. The most vocal christian apologists are exmuslims
These are undisputed facts.
It does not bother me..
The al taqqiyya fed to them in that mosque will not last ..lol

where did you get your figure from?. That's fallacy

Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by annunaki2(m): 3:02pm On Feb 07, 2017

Empiree:
where did you get your figure from?. That's fallacy

Yes it's a fallacy, it's actually 90% not 75% tongue

Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by Empiree: 5:22pm On Feb 07, 2017

plainbibletruth:
How do you reconcile the quran's HATE LANGUAGE and HOSTILITY to non-muslims with islam's PROPAGANDA machinery today that says the quran talks about PEACE with others and that it is accommodating towards non-muslims?

I am not gonna worry myself to explain what you quoted.

Here is my question fr you to answer. How Do You Reconcile Jesus statement Affirming Command in the Old Testament, that the Commands are binding on ALL Jews and Christians?.. Here are some of those CONFIRmATIONs

“For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” — Matthew 5:18-19

“It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid.” (Luke 16:17)

For instance Saul refused to carry out God's brutal Commands, for that reason, he lost kingdom of heaven. Those commands are still intact today as Jesus rightly said unless you n longer believe in those verses above.

Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by plainbibletruth: 5:39pm On Feb 07, 2017

Empiree:
I am not gonna worry myself to explain what you quoted.

Here is my question fr you to answer. How Do You Reconcile Jesus statement Affirming Command in the Old Testament, that the Commands are binding on ALL Jews and Christians?.. .

I answered your question and was waiting for you to answer mine.

Why are taking this route of not answering my questions but instead you're asking more questions?

Please CLEARLY answer mine first. Or are you running away from something?

Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by Empiree: 6:22pm On Feb 07, 2017

plainbibletruth:
I answered your question and was waiting for you to answer mine.

Why are taking this route of not answering my questions but instead you're asking more questions?

Please CLEARLY answer mine first. Or are you running away from something?

you called that an answer when the bible verses are clear and glaring?. Those verses are irrefutable.

You said i did not answer you. Here is your answer for shot. If Islam preaches violence you wont be online by now. I am sure there are muslims in your hood. You would be gone long ago if they wicked.

^^^^^

That answers your question

This answer your question V V V V

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Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by plainbibletruth: 8:28pm On Feb 07, 2017

Empiree:
you called that an answer when the bible verses are clear and glaring?. Those verses are irrefutable.

You said i did not answer you. Here is your answer for shot. If Islam preaches violence you wont be online by now. I am sure there are muslims in your hood. You would be gone long ago if they wicked.

That answers your question

This answer your question V V V V

Is it so hard for you to remain focused on an issue?

I gave you verses in your quran to reconcile with current muslim propaganda and all you do is point to a professor who huh

Maybe the muslims around are being restrained by fear or some other thing. I'm very sure if they think they can gain an upper hand they'll show their true colours.

Now, try again:
How do you reconcile the quran's HATE LANGUAGE and HOSTILITY to non-muslims with islam's PROPAGANDA machinery today that says the quran talks about PEACE with others and that it is accommodating towards non-muslims?

Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by Empiree: 8:45pm On Feb 07, 2017

plainbibletruth:
Is it so hard for you to remain focused on an issue?

I gave you verses in your quran to reconcile with current muslim propaganda and all you do is point to a professor who

And I gave you verses from New Testament confirming violent verses in the Old Testament. Yet, you denied relevance of what your Jesus said (in the NT) and at the same time you believe in the Old Testament and carry it around. How can you reconcile that?.

How many people muslims have killed in your neighborhood?

Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by Empiree: 8:50pm On Feb 07, 2017*

plainbibletruth:
Now, try again:
How do you reconcile the quran's HATE LANGUAGE and HOSTILITY to non-muslims with islam's PROPAGANDA machinery today that says the quran talks about PEACE with others and that it is accommodating towards non-muslims?

How do you reconcile this Bible HATE LANGUAGE and HOSTILITY to Muslims and non-Christians with Christianity's' PROPAGANDA machinery today that says the Bible talks about PEACE with others and that it is accommodating towards Muslims and non-christians?

"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." ◄ Matthew 10:34 ►

Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by plainbibletruth: 10:28pm On Feb 07, 2017

Why Are Muslims Scared of this Book?

In THE PEOPLE VERSUS MOHAMMAD
the author J.K Sheindlin carefully looked into the Quran and the Islamic texts and came up with the shocking truth that Mohammed sponsored and was involved in: Pedophilia, honor killings, sex slavery, prostitution, racism, extortion, murder, psychological indoctrination, intellectual terrorism, censorship, grand larceny, racketeering, domestic violence, gender inequality, and much more!

Using entirely the Islamic sources and
considering all the evidence, a rational person – whether Muslim or not – can only arrive at the very same inescapable conclusion - mohammed is guilty!

Because they cannot get themselves to accept this stark fact that the man they worship as a hero is in reality the OPPOSITE of all they "THINK" he stands for muslims will rather run from the book or oppose it with all their might.

But truth cannot be hidden for ever. It will always come out.

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Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by Empiree: 10:35pm On Feb 07, 2017*

^

dont get worked up buddy.You gave up easily. For the book u brought up, it is already debunked by the way. Nothing there is new. And muslims dont worship man. We worship Allah (God of Adam, Abraham, Moses, Isiaq, Jacob, Noah, Jesus and Muhammad amongst others). May Allah's Blessings and Peace be upon them. Ameen

Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by plappville(f): 9:45am On Feb 08, 2017

The only thing @Empiree knows how to do is diverting a thread. Bringing up unrelated issues. What's the link with this thread and ân Igbo man who brought guns to Nigeria ? Are you not aware two hausas/aboki.'s were involved? This crime has no religious link. angry

What is the pair with a frustrated atheist who is pis.seded off by Islamic terrorists. Got to do with this thread?

What does having a godparents got to do with this thread? Honestly, Parisbookaddict has been very nice giving you her/his time. You don't really deserve it.

Now Back to the OP, People please Read the book.. wink

Empiree:
"OSCAR OKAFOR. This man imported 661 guns in to the country. What if he turned out to be of Northern Origin and a Muslim? What could we have been seeing in the media by now? Nigeria, a country populated by irritants, bigot and dishonest people. I am tired of this kind of insincerity and media conspiracy against Muslims and Islam."

https://www.today.ng/tag/oscar-okafor

Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by plappville(f): 10:02am On Feb 08, 2017*

Empiree:
Seems to me he might be finally id'ed though. Well, it is easy to say he might be atheist which may be true due to separation of church and state.

But we have same people in the US and elsewhere with Muslim names but they have no connection with the religion. They are all over fb with their names Muhammed and last name is European and their profile photos are na'ked women etc.

Shurup. I dont support any type of killing, But you should thankfull to The God of Israel that People are even too patient and tolerance with muslims killing their loved ones. You should be happy people who have lost their loved ones to all.ah do not revenge. If they do, you will be hearing how muslims are been killed after each terrorist attack commited by your heartless brothers. See all people joining Muslims in protesting the ban but when Muslim tertorists kill their loved ones, no one rally in the street. To tell you how tolerance and loving non muslims are.

Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by plappville(f): 10:05am On Feb 08, 2017

Empiree:
make i trouble these people small small. If law in the bible should be applied, 80% Christians would be killed already

DavidJohnDavid parisbookaddict annunaki2 plappville Rilwayne001 tola9ja WORDWORLD. alBHAGDADI. OLAADEGBU(true2god)
(joseph1013)

Another tactics on diverting thread. SMH for you.

Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by plappville(f): 10:06am On Feb 08, 2017

Rilwayne001:
Make i wait for them

You are Laughable grin

Re: ☆☆☆Lets Read This Book. The People Vs Mohammed☆☆☆ by plainbibletruth: 10:11am On Feb 08, 2017

Empiree:
How many people muslims have killed in your neighborhood?

Muslims usually say their religion is "MISUNDERSTOOD", but the truth is that very FEW muslims seem to know much (or have ever pursued an honest investigation ) about the true history of Islam and its founder, Mohammed. So in reality those who understand islam less are the muslims themselves.

The proof of what Islam stands for is not in whether the MAJORITY of Muslims choose to do a thing. Many muslims ONLY go by the little they are 'taught' about islam. The teaching most times is based on 'forced' memorization of CAREFULLY selected portions of the quran. Even at this, little of it is understood.

On the issue of whether muslims are all going about killing people: The true test of islam is WHAT IT SAYS ABOUT ITSELF. Fortunately there is documentation to refer to. The INTERNET has made information available at the finger tip.

So, for example islam makes killing in the name of allah acceptable. Muslims who do not believe in killing either do not know this or just simply - perhaps out of conscience sake - choose a different law. Those who choose to go with islam will 'think' and act differently.

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