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Hairyrapunzel:
5b. So If a law will impede your chances of survival you lay aside that law SAD. SAD. SAD. You are the typical example of a Christian deceiver, a betrayer, a backslider. No integrity and shortsighted. Continue to throw away God's laws for the sake your survival in this life and miss out in the future on the glorious life of eternity with the Almighty God!!!


If that your so called glorious life of eternity with your God is with people like you and jehovahs witnesses. I will continue to throw away your gods laws for the sake of my survival in this life. I can't imagine being in thesame eternity like you people. How will you say someone should refuse blood transfusion and die so that they will have a chance in eternal life. I can't be in thesame place with psychopaths.

You have a God that will be angry when you decide to be happy by doing things not mentioned in the bible like accepting blood transfusion to increase your chances of survival and things not against his commands in the bible. You have a god that his followers are happy when people die even children die from refusing a medical procedure. Your God is petty and a narcissistic bastArd

Your God derives joy from his followers dying from refusal of a medical procedure because he wants to prove what?

Since you are keeping God's laws why don't you stone fornicators and homosexuals to death?

Abstaining from blood transfusion isn't biblical and will never be biblical

Hairyrapunzel:
Since your God says blood transfusion is bad even when death is imminent and non blood alternatives dont work you will go to hell fire if you receive it then your God must be a sadist, bastard and a prick. Abstaining from Blood transfusion isn't biblical. If you like refuse it when doctors say you need it it is non of my business. It will reducethe number of people spreading poo.

themall:
How about your own god perceptually making sure you will always need a blood transfusion and my own Christ continuously making sure I need NO blood transfusion. That's the difference between your three gods and my God, my Jesus and My holy Ghost!
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themall:
How about your own god perceptually making sure you will always need a blood transfusion and my own Christ continuously making sure I need NO blood transfusion. That's the difference between your three gods and my God, my Jesus and My holy Ghost!
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themall:
More moronic trash form a failed christian. Whoever says those who refuse to accept blood on biblical or health grounds will die! More moronic trash form a failed christian. People like you only read medical journals which say "that even children die from refusing a medical procedure" L A I R. In your own hateful state, Christians who rush to the hospital for medical attention are committing suicide only because they refuse blood transfusion. SHAME

Why advocate the stoning of gays and homosexuals when only God himself will do the final judgement while TRUE Christians are only to warn and inform of what God says is right and wrong. What a shameful interpretation of the NEW commandment fulfilled by Christ from a hateful heart. S H A M E

Abstaining from blood, command well grounded in scripture is subject of attack by the devil and his human children...

And of course I know you "can't imagine being in thesame eternity like you people." That's why you'll remain on the broad road where anything goes!

Hairyrapunzel:
1. So you are a failed christian when you advocate for blood transfusion? Rotflmao

Am glad you agree and at least are laughing

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2. I have seen so many children die because their parent refused blood transfusion on them is not hearsay.

L A I R. L A I R. So many children die? So many children are getting quality medical care without blood transfusion, away from scare mongers like you. Your wish will never materialize.

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3. Why will you go to hospital and refuse a medical procedure. then don't go just stay at home. if you refuse and you die you killed yourself and is equivalent to sucide. The doctors did not kill you in this case.

If and when I have blood related issues, it is important for me to ensure that people like you will not be the ones taking the decision about my life. Many have died while being transfused with blood! But many who have a chance of survival will never make it once they choose not to accept blood because haters like you are lurking in all our health institutions. You want them to die if and when they refuse blood! S H A M E

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4. At least the medical journals are about things that happen in the medical field. Blood transfusion is a medical thing. At least medical journals are about medically related things so I like reading them.

I G N O R A N T. Half education. Wannabe Doctor. You don't read any medical journal. You only google and bring trashy ideas. That's why you don't know that non blood medical practices are well established and recognized and acceptable procedures.

5. Eya now I see using promise of eternal life to scare people. So if you accept blood transfusion you will not make eternal life? Lol lol.

The broad road is better to go to in this case. If you go through the narrow road all you see is sadists, people who derive pleasure from people dying, people who are always sad that people are happy, people who are always saying people will go to hell fire or die in armageddon, people who always say God will punish every body, people who hate people for being happy, people who hate people for having fun, people who are always angry, people who say their God will commit mass genocide.people who say God will punish you for accepting blood transfusion, Imagine living a lifetime with these people you will be depressed for a whole lifetime. If your broad road has positive people mehn I will so go through that path in fact I will be the first. At least I will be happy for a lifetime. I love the broad road.

themall:
;DOH YES YOU ARE RIGHT THIS TIME. MAY YOU GO ON THAT WAY

Hairyrapunzel:
Is it the children you have treated? I will soon show you your magazine that showed children who died because they refused transfusion.

Mind you people have died more from refusing blood transfusion than they have died from taking it when it was actually needed.

Abstaining from blood transfusion isn't biblical you cannot even argue that fact. You now change your views and say is complications.

Continue in your killings thank God is your family and friends that are involved not mine. Have fun with your church doctrine. Lol

Your so called Broadway has the happiest people on earth. Am gonna love it there. People like you are not invited sorry.

themall:
Broadway is now so called Heheheheeheeeeeee.

LOL. So "Abstaining from blood transfusion isn't biblical" in your own HATEFUL world. How can one who can not even understand simple conversation of the sabbath day claim to comprehend church doctrines based on scripture against one based on tradition
SHAME. Mtcheewww. BTW, you can't force your own family to tow your own line of thought once they know you are being indoctrinated and mislead. #SoCalledBroadWay

Hairyrapunzel:
If you like say what you wanna say blood transfusion will never be a biblical term and it isn't biblical. I know you will say it's hate.
The moral lesson from Jesus is save lives no matter what provided you are in a situation to do so. Hope you don't eat the fat in meat? It is a law too I know you keep all the laws.

BTW, you can't force your own family to tow your own line of thought once they know you are being indoctrinated and mislead.

Well thank God you now agree that you can't force your family to refuse blood transfusion if needed cause you know it is highly indoctrinated and misled people that will do that. It shows you are afraid of death of your family as a result of stupidity. I know you will accept blood transfusion if you're in a position to take it. I can see You are not ready to go through your narrow way #hypocrite I still love my broadway stop being jealous. All happy people will be there, no hate for anybody just love for people. In your narrow way you people will just be angry fellows with no modern tech or science.

themall:
Once again You can't force your own family to tow your own line of thought once they know you are being indoctrinated and mislead S H A M E. When asked to regard blood as sacred and be obedient you chicken out and then turn around to justify your cowardly spirit by reinterpreting SUICIDE. Your family members know when you keep lying, because you are inconsistent even when you come for sacrament it means nothing!#SoCalledBroadWay

You shamelessly observed a few Christians already taking a stand about their belief, and then shamelessly you turn around to say they will not take the stand - "I know you will accept blood transfusion if you're in a position to take it" S H A M E. H Y P O C R I T E. Pray tell which one it is.

#SoCalledBroadWay please stay on that road if your heart has become like JI your predecessor!

Hairyrapunzel:
E pain am. Lol

hahn:
How would you describe this? And how come parents, mostly in the US and UK, who have allowed their kids to die simply because of their "faith" get arrested and charged with murder?Read more stories @ When A 14-Year-Old Chooses To Die Because Of Religion, Can Anyone Stop Him? http://kuow.org/post/when-14-year-old-chooses-die-because-religion-can-anyone-stop-him. Jehovah's Witnesses' (WTS) opposition to blood transfusions
http://www.religioustolerance.org/witness11.htm
Stay focused.
The same way they knock on doors to encourage people to follow their doctrines? In my neighborhood there is a swarm of JW preachers going around spreading the "word" so more people can join them in their stupidity. Tell them to keep their bullshit to themselves and leave other people alone and we will do the same

themall:
Very foolish assertion of Christians being arrested and charged for murder: The crime being choosing non blood management of children. But where is the story posted www.religioustolerance website! Patronizing. All this in the UK and the US. Hahn, Hahn.

OK, so there is a swarm of JW preachers going around spreading the "word" so more people can join them in their stupidity. Tell them to keep their bullshit to themselves and leave other people alone and we will do the same

Christians calling the word of God their bullshit, tells me that at least that you are no better that anyone called INTOLERANT. I hope I and you agree on this

hahn:
Please go through what you have written again. It is incoherent

themall:
Incoherent because yu rever experet rit

hahn:
It takes a lot of stupidity to expect such idiocy in one comment

themall:
Hahn hahn, you are damn right. I never knew you agree you've been making such stupid idiotic comments all along. Now what would it take you to explain on this thread why you are taking such an idiotic role when other teens like you are making headlines in godly wisdom!!

themall:
To the 4 top dogmatic blood apologist take a step back and notice the following:
Headline 1 from Pat Hagan for MailOnline dated 3 August 2010: "They are supposed to save lives, but could a blood transfusion give you a heart attack?":
This says, recent studies suggest undergoing a blood transfusion during surgery subsequently increases the patient's risk of death - particularly from heart attacks or strokes - and of serious illnesses, such as septicaemia, pneumonia and cancer of the lymph glands.

Headline 2 By Jo Carlowe 15 Oct 2012 "Killed by a needless blood transfusion"
According to this report When Judy Kenny was admitted to hospital for a hip replacement two years ago, she made a point of telling staff to give her a blood transfusion only if it was a matter of life and death.

But Judy, 65, has reason to be wary of blood transfusions. Her husband Deryck was the first person in the world to be recorded as dying of variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (vCJD) contracted via a blood transfusion, given during surgery for prostate cancer seven years earlier.
A former Royal Marine, Deryck changed from being cheerful and gregarious to withdrawn and introverted. Thought at the time to have rapid-onset dementia – the real cause was discovered only after an autopsy – he was just 69 when he died, in 2003.

According to Judy "after his death I asked to see the theatre notes. It said he had been given three pints of blood [one of which turned out to be contaminated with vCJD], but there was no mention of excessive bleeding. I suspect the blood was just given as routine” Judy is campaigning for an end to what she says are thousands of needless blood transfusions given annually to patients – more out of habit than to save lives.


Headline 3, Keonjhar (In Odisha) Dec 14, 2016 "Woman dies in Odisha govt hospital after being given wrong blood in transfusion"

Hospital staff allegedly mixed up blood requisition forms that were issued under the same name, resulting in the death of one woman. (Shutterstock) She given the wrong blood group at a government run hospital at Keonjhar in Odisha, triggering tension in the area and the dismissal of two employees on Wednesday. Sukanti Nayak (45) of Hadabandhasahi locality in old town area was admitted to the medicine ward of the district headquarters hospital on Tuesday afternoon, where doctors advised one unit of blood be pumped into Nayak. The patient’s husband Birendra went to fetch a unit of ‘O’ group blood from the blood bank in the hospital premises, but the laboratory technician allegedly handed over ‘A’ group blood. The staff nurse conducted the transfusion, and a short while later, the patient died.

Mistakes, Risks, hazards etc all thjis are understandable.

My point being no one (ignorant or misinformed or over-informed or simply informed) should play-the-ostrich that those dead souls would have been worse off if they chose on medical grounds to insist on NO BLOOD and still died. However, an ostrich man would start convolution, if it is reported that the reason of death was as a result of NOT accepting a transfusion on religious grounds. S H A M E

themall:
To the 4 top dogmatic blood apologist take a step back and notice the following:
Headline 1 from Pat Hagan for MailOnline dated 3 August 2010: "They are supposed to save lives, but could a blood transfusion give you a heart attack?":
This says, recent studies suggest undergoing a blood transfusion during surgery subsequently increases the patient's risk of death - particularly from heart attacks or strokes - and of serious illnesses, such as septicaemia, pneumonia and cancer of the lymph glands.

Headline 2 By Jo Carlowe 15 Oct 2012 "Killed by a needless blood transfusion"
According to this report When Judy Kenny was admitted to hospital for a hip replacement two years ago, she made a point of telling staff to give her a blood transfusion only if it was a matter of life and death.

But Judy, 65, has reason to be wary of blood transfusions. Her husband Deryck was the first person in the world to be recorded as dying of variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (vCJD) contracted via a blood transfusion, given during surgery for prostate cancer seven years earlier.
A former Royal Marine, Deryck changed from being cheerful and gregarious to withdrawn and introverted. Thought at the time to have rapid-onset dementia – the real cause was discovered only after an autopsy – he was just 69 when he died, in 2003.

According to Judy "after his death I asked to see the theatre notes. It said he had been given three pints of blood [one of which turned out to be contaminated with vCJD], but there was no mention of excessive bleeding. I suspect the blood was just given as routine” Judy is campaigning for an end to what she says are thousands of needless blood transfusions given annually to patients – more out of habit than to save lives.


Headline 3, Keonjhar (In Odisha) Dec 14, 2016 "Woman dies in Odisha govt hospital after being given wrong blood in transfusion"

Hospital staff allegedly mixed up blood requisition forms that were issued under the same name, resulting in the death of one woman. (Shutterstock) She given the wrong blood group at a government run hospital at Keonjhar in Odisha, triggering tension in the area and the dismissal of two employees on Wednesday. Sukanti Nayak (45) of Hadabandhasahi locality in old town area was admitted to the medicine ward of the district headquarters hospital on Tuesday afternoon, where doctors advised one unit of blood be pumped into Nayak. The patient’s husband Birendra went to fetch a unit of ‘O’ group blood from the blood bank in the hospital premises, but the laboratory technician allegedly handed over ‘A’ group blood. The staff nurse conducted the transfusion, and a short while later, the patient died.

Mistakes, Risks, hazards etc all thjis are understandable.

My point being no one (ignorant or misinformed or over-informed or simply informed) should play-the-ostrich that those dead souls would have been worse off if they chose on medical grounds to insist on NO BLOOD and still died. However, an ostrich man would start convolution, if it is reported that the reason of death was as a result of NOT accepting a transfusion on religious grounds. S H A M E

Hairyrapunzel:
Red cross

Every two seconds someone in the U.S. needs blood.
Approximately 36,000 units of red blood cells are needed every day.
Nearly 7,000 units of platelets and 10,000 units of plasma are needed daily in the U.S.
Nearly 21 million blood components are transfused each year in the U.S.
The average red blood cell transfusion is approximately 3 pints.
The blood type most often requested by hospitals is Type O.
The blood used in an emergency is already on the shelves before the event occurs.
It is estimated that sickle cell disease affects 90,000 to 100,000 people in the U.S. About 1,000 babies are born with the disease each year. Sickle cell patients can require frequent blood transfusions throughout their lives.
More than 1.68 million people are expected to be diagnosed with cancer in 2016. Many of them will need blood, sometimes daily during their chemotherapy treatment.
A single car accident victim can require as many as 100 pints of blood.


WHO

Fact 1: Blood transfusion saves lives and improves health
Around 108 million units of donated blood are collected globally every year. Nearly 50% of these blood donations are collected in high-income countries, home to less than 20% of the world’s population. Many patients requiring transfusion, however, do not have timely access to safe blood and blood products. Every country needs to ensure that supplies of blood and blood products are sufficient and free from HIV, hepatitis viruses and other infections that can be transmitted through transfusion.

CDC

Each day life-saving blood transfusions are needed in hospitals and emergency treatment facilities across the U.S.
There are more than 9.5 million blood donors in the United States and an estimated 5 million patients who receive blood annually, resulting in a total of 14.6 million transfusions per year.(Source: NBCUS, 2007 Adobe PDF file [PDF - 2.11 MB]External Web Site Icon)
Most patients do not experience any side effects from blood transfusions. On rare occasions, blood transfusions can cause adverse reactions in the patients receiving blood.
Although the U.S. blood supply is safer than ever before, some bacteria, viruses, prions, and parasites can be transmitted by blood transfusions.
Each donor is screened for risk of transmissible disease by questionnaire, and each unit of blood donated in the U.S. is routinely screened for various infectious disease pathogens, including five transfusion–transmitted viruses, using nine laboratory tests.

According to CDC The chance of having a reaction to a blood transfusion is very small.

FDA

October 1, 2009, through September 30, 2010 we received a total of 76 fatality reports. Of these reports, 71 were transfusion recipient fatalities and 5 were post-donation fatalities.
Of the 71 transfusion recipient fatality reports, we concluded:
40 of the fatalities were transfusion-related,
24 of the fatalities were cases that transfusion could not be ruled out as the cause of the fatality,
7 of the fatalities were unrelated to the transfusion

Hairyrapunzel:
Headline 1 from Pat Hagan for MailOnline dated 3 August 2010: "They are supposed to save lives, but could a blood transfusion give you a heart attack?"[/b]:
This says, recent studies suggest undergoing a blood transfusion during surgery subsequently increases the patient's risk of death - particularly from heart attacks or strokes - and of serious illnesses, such as septicaemia, pneumonia and cancer of the lymph glands.

The last line of this write up says Murphy says: 'Transfusion has saved countless lives and, in my opinion, remains one of the miracles of modern medicine.'


You should learn to read what you post don't just take headings. SHAME ON YOU.

You say between 2010 to 2016 just 3 people had adverse reaction and died in 6 years i even thought you will say millions of people
SHAME SHAME SHAME SHAME

Nobody ever said blood transfusion was 100% safe. But it is said that it can guarantee a good outcome. Erythropoietin and fluids have adverse effects. People who refuse blood transfusion die for nothing they probably would hAve being among the lager precent age alive and well but we never can tell because they chose to die instead or Who knows maybe they would have being among the smallet percentage that died from reaction. But still a large number gets to live.

Even if you died after receiving a transfusion at least you died and the blame is not on you. You made an effort to live. If you die refusing a blood transfusion which would have probably saved you then the blame is on you and it is religious sucide. Sucide bombers die for what they believe in and in their religion they are heroes. Same thing with people who die due to refusal of blood transfusion they die for what they believe in and in their religion they are heroes.

Don't put a medical procedure in bad light yes bad things can happen but is very rare. But there is a high possibiliy that they would have been alive if they accepted because it was really needed.
Even drugs can kill so y take them.

Abstaining from Blood transfusion isn't biblical ie it is not even mentioned in the bible. Blood is sacred and you obey all the laws do you still offer animal sacrifices to God? Did God say we should respect the animals blood in place of our life?

Our topic is if blood transfusion is biblical. Nothing concerns the biblical aspect and transfusion related reaction. Except they want to tell me they are changing their reason for refusing blood transfusion. If this is the case they are still dying for nothing.

If you say you want to obey then obey all mosaic laws don't obey one and leave the rest. Do not cherry pick. #Hypocrite
It is still considered sucide because you are killing yourself.
You don't kill yourself over a religious doctrine made in 1945 by human beings. GBAM.

themallHunt:
You mean I'm still overestimating your intelligence! You can't interpret your own statistics!!! You can't tell the difference between the back-argument in reply to your assertions about whole blood takers and blood non-takers.

The number of blood transfusion yearly are in millions. Blood is given in fractions these days not whole blood you hardly give whole blood. Do you know you resuscitate using fluids before you use blood? Most people get to survive before even needing a blood transfusion. When you need it you need it no alternative will work.I said when you need a blood transfusion and you choose to die instead of taking it and you die you killed yourself which is sucide. You even lied to drive home your point that blood transfusion increased risk of heart disease. You didnt even read the write up you just took the heading. LIAR LIAR


We know that blood has always come to the aid of many patients around the world especially in terms of quantity needed such as for soldiers in a war.
Your materialists ideology refuses to agree with the respect for scripture directing Christians on the continuation on blood saintliness. All your hatred is wired towards materialism. S H A M E. First you are a doctor now you are a statistician interpreting ANOVA. Anything to win the argument. L I A R. L I A

My point is there are cases where only blood transfusion will work. At least you have agreed that blood transfusion has helped people not only soldiers in war you don't have to be a soldier before blood transfusion. If soldiers are human beings other people are human beings too. The scriptures did not say blood transfusion. The scriptures have been in existence for thousands of years. Blood transfusion has been for centuries. But blood transfusion ban has been si ce 1945. So it is a man made doctrine. When it comes to saving lives you don't need what is not in the scriptures. So now blood transfusion is materialism lol. Life is very important
Saying people should kill themselves over a law not in the bible is wickedness and shows you have no conscience for human life. SHAME SHAME SHAME.

Since the 1940's, how many PubicHPunzels/Christians have died due to the half knowledge, recklessness, mistakes, failure and blood myths by the hospitals for those who accept and for those who refuse. Mtchewwww. With improved technology has both sides not benefited on MEDICAL GROUNDS.

Not only have people died so many people have still survived. Nobody is saying technology is not helpful. There are situations when you will require blood transfusion. People have benefited from technology. You cant compare an underdeveloped country to a developed country. You die from refusal of blood transfusion doesn't guarantee you eternal life.


My point being no one (ignorant or misinformed or over-informed or simply informed) should play-the-ostrich that those dead souls would have been worse off if they chose on medical grounds to insist on NO BLOOD and still died. However, an ostrich man would start convolution, if it is reported that the reason of death was as a result of NOT accepting a transfusion on religious grounds. S H A M E

Those dead souls had a chance to live but chose to die as a result of a man made belief. People bomb places and human beings on religious grounds so we should applaud them. No religion has a right to impose that kind of belief on anyone. Any religion that imposes a ban on a medical procedure is a false religion and a cult. They have no right to interfere with treatment which can save life.

themallHunt:
Abstaining from Blood transfusion isn't biblical ie it is not even mentioned in the bible.[/b]Of course. This is the type of bibles that allow the church in England to allow homosexual cohabitation. Your bible are not what all will rely on. So you can see why someone like you will say [b]"Nothing concerns the biblical aspect and transfusion related reaction" The road is to life rooooommmmmmyyy and broad

Show me where blood transfusion was mentioned in the bible? I know you wont have a passage to show. What concerns accepting blood transfusion and accepting homosexuality and gay marriages? I can smell frustration here. Your reasoning is faulty. What concerns church of England and blood transfusion. OK since you don't know the difference. Blood transfusion is a medical procedure while homosexuality is a sexual orientation. How are they related? How is church of England related to a hospital? England and nigeria are they thesame country? So church of England is now equivalent to all churches in the world. If your narrow way is full of people in a cult like you with this kind of reasoning then the broad way will be a blast. Always looking for a church to blame for your frustrations on. SHAME SHAME SHAME. SHAME ON YOU


Shameful statement "Sucide bombers die for what they believe in and in their religion they are heroes. Same thing with people who die due to refusal of blood transfusion they die for what they believe in and in their religion they are heroes." Stephen the evangelist will be labelled as above by people like you, until thankfully, the apostles wrote about him in a good light. H Y P O C R I T E

Stephen was stoned to death by other people he never stoned himself to death by himself. STEPHEN NEVER KILLED HIMSELF HE WAS KILLED BY OTHER PEOPLE. LIAR LIAR.

themallHunt:
See how your behind is being exposed. as I N C O N S I S T E N T

1. Show me where blood transfusion was mentioned in the bible?
2. So church of England is now equivalent to all churches in the world?
3. Always looking for a church to blame for your frustrations on?

And all the above are your arguments?

Stephen was stoned to death by other people he never stoned himself to death by himself
He had no choice to run away?! Is is not what people like you would advocate! How can a man who can not understand and interpret an ordinary argument between the hypocrites and Jesus about the sabbath, understand the 3 items above and the scriptural nature of abstinence from blood eating.
many gentiles of different religion who convert to christianity often will never knwo all these things things except a particular law is written for them every day of their life

Hairyrapunzel:
It doesn't change the fact that Stephen did not kill himself other people killed. Dying from blood transfusion can't be likened to death of Stephen being stoned to death by unbelievers. When you die refusing blood transfusion a medical procedure you chose to kill yourself the doctors did not kill you. Stephen did not even have any option of running away don't say what the bible did not say. Stephen was spreading the gospel and he got stoned for it. During blood transfusion you are not spreading any gospel and nobody is stoning you to death. LIAR LIAR

Thank God you said abstinence from blood eating cos blood transfusion is not and will never be thesame as blood eating they are two different things entirely.

You have still not showed me where blood transfusion was mentioned in the bible.

Blood transfusion have saved so many lives by giving you time to treat the cause of the blood looss. It gives you time to address the situation at hand. Non blood alternatives have been used and is being used more often than blood transfusion. But when there is need for blood transfusion nothing takes its place.

Jesus Christ encouraged saving life. Why did he heal people? he would have told them to manage their illness and wait for eternal life. Since life is not important. Jesus healed someone on sabbath day which was unlawful to do on a sabbath. He would have chosen not to heal the person because he wanted to obey the law on sabbath but he healed the person because the person deserved a good life.

David ate consecrated bread which was unlawful to do because he was hungry. He would have chosen to die of hunger because he was obeying a law but he didn't he chose to live.

If Jesus and David broke mosaic laws and there was no problem because human beings were involved in the matter what stops you from trying to live longer.

Don't give me any explanation that the passage says we should do good on the Sabbath. Abi they did not do good things on sabbath day before then? I no that law was remember the sabbath day and keep it holy. Abi holy in this case is equivalent to doing bad things? Life is important here. Your life as an individual. So if I am hungry and there is only meat fat available I should not eat it or if I have a jaw surgery I should not shave my beard or I should not eat tendon or sinew of thigh of meat when am hungry or I should not cut my hair if I want to have a head surgery cos I want to obey the Mosaic laws right?

Life is what is important if it isn't to you then you believe what you want to believe. So People should refuse blood transfusion and die so their promise of eternal life will be sure. This is the biggest rip off I have ever seen in my entire life.

My own is abstaining from blood transfusion is not biblical. Show me the passage. I know you can never show me anything cos it's not there in the first place.
People should not kill themselves over a religious doctrine made in 1945.

Hairyrapunzel:
It doesn't change the fact that Stephen did not kill himself other people killed. Dying from blood transfusion can't be likened to death of Stephen being stoned to death by unbelievers. When you die refusing blood transfusion a medical procedure you chose to kill yourself the doctors did not kill you. Stephen did not even have any option of running away don't say what the bible did not say. Stephen was spreading the gospel and he got stoned for it. During blood transfusion you are not spreading any gospel and nobody is stoning you to death. LIAR LIAR

Thank God you said abstinence from blood eating cos blood transfusion is not and will never be thesame as blood eating they are two different things entirely.

You have still not showed me where blood transfusion was mentioned in the bible.

Blood transfusion have saved so many lives by giving you time to treat the cause of the blood looss. It gives you time to address the situation at hand. Non blood alternatives have been used and is being used more often than blood transfusion. But when there is need for blood transfusion nothing takes its place.

Jesus Christ encouraged saving life. Why did he heal people? he would have told them to manage their illness and wait for eternal life. Since life is not important. Jesus healed someone on sabbath day which was unlawful to do on a sabbath. He would have chosen not to heal the person because he wanted to obey the law on sabbath but he healed the person because the person deserved a good life.

David ate consecrated bread which was unlawful to do because he was hungry. He would have chosen to die of hunger because he was obeying a law but he didn't he chose to live.

If Jesus and David broke mosaic laws and there was no problem because human beings were involved in the matter what stops you from trying to live longer.

Don't give me any explanation that the passage says we should do good on the Sabbath. Abi they did not do good things on sabbath day before then? I no that law was remember the sabbath day and keep it holy. Abi holy in this case is equivalent to doing bad things? Life is important here. Your life as an individual. So if I am hungry and there is only meat fat available I should not eat it or if I have a jaw surgery I should not shave my beard or I should not eat tendon or sinew of thigh of meat when am hungry or I should not cut my hair if I want to have a head surgery cos I want to obey the Mosaic laws right?

Life is what is important if it isn't to you then you believe what you want to believe. So People should refuse blood transfusion and die so their promise of eternal life will be sure. This is the biggest rip off I have ever seen in my entire life.

My own is abstaining from blood transfusion is not biblical. Show me the passage. I know you can never show me anything cos it's not there in the first place.
People should not kill themselves over a religious doctrine made in 1945.