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bizme:
Does forcing/inducing staff to visit their website count as manipulation? It sure should. But maybe not. With respect to Nigerian university ranking however, the little I have seen makes me think it's no more than a cosmetic show of quality. Quality should be holistic and should consider many other factors to arrive at a fairly accurate measurement of it. For instance, I know for a fact that after withdrawing their services to a particular university, the names of some lecturers keep appearing in the record of the institution for accreditation and stuffs like that. And for listing on the website. Any measure of quality that includes staff quality will definitely have it wrong for this particular school.

My intention is not to get any school penalized but if it is possible that you have influence with respect to webometrics and all, then a more robust measure of quality should be evolved. This is especially because an inaccurate ranking stands a very good chance of misleading the public... While at a private university that was ranked quite appreciably, I had often looked at my students in pity considering how much the parents were paying believing there's quality in the school. While that quality is plainly absent in terms of quality of education. I think NUC should do more to make sure private universities deliver the quality the students are paying for.
If you are paying N1m in school fees, the quality you receive should in fairness be several orders higher than what you would pay in OOU for instance. But that is presently not the case. One way the NUC can help is to investigate the accreditation teams visiting these private universities who collect money from the school and then accredit such institutions even without the least of equipment in the labs and qualified lecturers.
When such schools have accreditation, they feel no need to get the basics right. They teach students with unqualified lecturers and without the necessary equipment. With this personal experience, there is nothing anyone can tell me to convince me that the quality of products produced by such private institutions is better than those produced by government institutions.

blont:
i have two cousin graduate frm d so called Igbinedion University and yet no job.

mykelmeezy:
https://www.naij.com/1090289-7-expensive-universities-nigeria-2017.html

why can't i see Baze university and Bingham University, these two universities pay way more than these universities you just mentioned

bizme:
You're really not better educated than the illiterate president that we have in this country.
I have personally supervised master thesis of first class students from one of the most expensive private universities in this country, their colleges of medicine and sciences. And I can tell you point blank that those students are not much better than you with respect to how competently they grasp concepts or are trainable.

If you don't have any experience with these things, simply keep your mouth shut. And learn.

Freewoman:
MY WORRIES REMAIN THAT THEY WERE OWN AND MANAGED BY CHURCHES, THEY SUPPOSED TO BE ALMOST FREE BUT NOT, YOU SEE WHY NIGERIAN GOVT WANT THEM TO PAY TAXES AND SOME IDIOTS ARE SHOUTING THEIR HEADS OUT, WHAT A PITY FOR THOSE THAT PAYS TITHS IN THOSE TYPE OF CHURCHES ............... WHAT A PITY,

asuustrike2009:
The same God gave man choice in making and taking decisions.

Jerryojozy:
With my 2.1 from fed uni, I can challenge any first class from these universities in my field.


Genius J

bizme:
I agree. And yes, $40 million from the African development bank is a big boon. But it takes much more than that to run a medical school. I believe there is a reason that CU has not dabbled so much into that aspect.... And yes, I personally believe Aare Babalola is able to pull his strong visions off; unfortunately he has succeeded in surrounding himself with strange breeds of sycophants whose singular interest is to eat his money and not to help him achieve his visions. So, he isn't just funding the school, he is at the same time funding the cavernous greed of these individuals. For a vision like his to succeed he needs people who believes in the same vision as he does, and who are especially young. Young and strong enough to run around, strong enough to have impossibly noble visions like him...But his love of self-recognition and praise has attracted to him the kind of old men who are adept at singing praises, eating money and doing nothing.

Yes, I pity him too. The few times that I have been privileged to listen to him talk, I couldn't help exclaiming to my girlfriend that we need more people like him in this country. His only fatal flaw is that he loves praises and he can not stand anyone opposing his ideas or thinking differently than him. If he can put the right individuals in critical positions, ABUAD will easily become one of the best universities in this country.

AlphaStyles:
he gave us a choice all we had to do was call on him to direct us to the right choice

mayorwah98:
Bro you spoke my mind. God bless you

bizme:
Finally here is someone that understands perfectly what is going on.
@The bold. I was involved in students recruitment for Medicine and Health Sciences at this particular university, traveling around the country for the open days. Students with no more than 200 in UTME are routinely given admission into Medicine and Surgery, even those below 190, once you are well connected. In fact, Obasanjo had once pushed for the admission of student who never offered Chemistry into Medicine and Surgery. And the student was almost admitted if reason had not eventually prevailed.

With 270 in UTME you are not likely to get a spot in Medicine and Surgery in schools like OAU, UI, UNILAG, etc.... Compare the gap in implied intelligence quotient... a school that admits 200 and below for Medicine and the ones that take nothing below 280, and some still believe you can compare the quality of products for the two sets of school! Some of you guys amaze me the way you think.

You simply cannot compare the products. Plus, most students in private universities have no motivation to study. They are in school because daddy and mummy refused to send them abroad, and they continue sulking all day long. Class attendance isn't their thing, while they love to party, do drugs and have sex in gutters and in open fields. ... You can only understand what I'm saying if you have worked or schooled in these institutions.

In summary, big money does not buy you quality education, it only gives your folks and you something to gloat about. At the end of the day, most of the products are so ill-trained that they have little to offer to national development.

I didn't say this out of spite, but as honestly as I have observed things. And yes, I have had running battles trying to encourage the management of the school to prioritize merit and discipline instead of celebrating insignificant and spurious achievements like a student graduating with CGPA 5.0 in Geology. Geology, 5.0??! Can you believe that?

AlphaStyles:
churches nowadays don't know God only money. if you like critize me. The God I know wouldn't build a skul were only the rich can go. The God I know see's people equal no matter your status. all this skuls that are built ordinary church member can not enroll his or her child in such skuls after pastors will come to me and say pay tithe. mtchew

wizzakosh:
are you asking me if I know what patent is hahahaha. let me tell you, I did patent and invention while in final year first semester in school. I have met so many and am sure av not bin impressed. am not talking about how much they pay. if you have your money, you can pay it. it is your money, am not concern with that. what am saying is the quality of education. u said I ask in and used it to judge. but I can tell u, I met a lot during my IT, I was the one teaching them most of the things there, not until another guy came from ui, that u was relieved. I now wondered what they teach them in the so called private school. to me, I will rather send my kid abroad to school than all this private university. I convinced my brother to send his son abroad to school when he wanted to send him to Nigeria private school. am glad he yielded to it. private school here is shit.

bizme:
You're really not better educated than the illiterate president that we have in this country.
I have personally supervised master thesis of first class students from one of the most expensive private universities in this country, their colleges of medicine and sciences. And I can tell you point blank that those students are not much better than you with respect to how competently they grasp concepts or are trainable.

If you don't have any experience with these things, simply keep your mouth shut. And learn.

Catastrophe:
That is what you think o! I swear most students are there today simply because they cannot gain admission into public schools and their parents know so they don't even want them to stress themselves, another reason for the guys is that their parents don't want them leaving the school whenever they like so as not to go join cult or something cause they know that if they let their kids go to public schools where there are alot of hustlers they won't just join cult but will be leaders and I swear will beat TuBaba record cause those students can boast OMG everybody (almost) doing high class especially @ Igbenedion and ABUAD.. Yet 60% soak garri. When I was there same thing, room mates o, other people too.. Simply because parents put their kids in a very expensive school and don't give them enough money and resources thats why the crime rate is so high ehn they steal not just per day but per hour Laptops, Phones, Macs, even a student @ ABUAD was caught stealing with Juju even the girls steal also @ the so called "religious Convent University." I nvr learned to sleep with one eye closed but as I enter private school hmmmmm u fit sleep yet nor close ur eyes urn roomie fit dey talk for one hour bot knowing say u don go. And also the rate of drugs is those schools slf in another thing lemmi not even go dere e go surprise u how students manage to smuggle hookah's enter schools, codine etc and am not talking of just guys its a 50/50. And finally in every private school, the poplulation of girls is almost more simply because parents want their daughters to be safely away from guys because they either know they are docile or the other thing. And yet they don't know that because girls can't enter boys hostel (not at Igbenedion though) doesn't mean that they don't run the sex stuff. Yes they do infact in first week self. Convenant is tighter than Abuad though. In Abuad they do it at the field, college buildings and classes, uncompleted buildings etc @ Convenant behind college buildings too, cafeteria and more. The dean of students affairs {Mr. Azubuike A.K.A Azu} will even wear face cap and dress like normal students just to catch students kissing in the cafeteria or doing other stuffs.. So thats it and there are many other reasons but don't think it's everyone there that is more fortunate than you are. Read more @
http://omotosoalex..com.ng/2016/01/dear-abuad-students.html#more
http://omotosoalex..com.ng/2016/01/abuad-ghost-writer-gets-epic-reply-from.html#more
http://omotosoalex..com.ng/2016/10/strictly-for-abuad-students.html#more
https://www.nairaland.com/2035300/100-level-covenant-university-student/1
http://pulse.ng/student/covenant-university-cctv-films-m-sc-student-having-sex-with-fresher-expelled-alongside-2-others-caught-with-porn-id3562243.html
https://www.nairaland.com/2189622/3-covenant-university-students-expelled

asuustrike2009:
That's a big lie.you suddenly develop that mindset based on hearsay. I put to you that you might flop in many areas if the competition began. Now ask yourself, can you compete internationally? Would they even accept your certificate knowing fully well what goes on in our public universities? Even a 2.1 from university of Ghana is far better than university of Benin.

udeh3:
Read the bible very well, especially Proverbs

asuustrike2009:
Did he also teach you how to reason, think and take decision? Did he also teach man how to eat,talk,smile?

Freewoman:
MY WORRIES REMAIN THAT THEY WERE OWN AND MANAGED BY CHURCHES, THEY SUPPOSED TO BE ALMOST FREE BUT NOT, YOU SEE WHY NIGERIAN GOVT WANT THEM TO PAY TAXES AND SOME IDIOTS ARE SHOUTING THEIR HEADS OUT, WHAT A PITY FOR THOSE THAT PAYS TITHS IN THOSE TYPE OF CHURCHES ............... WHAT A PITY,

DrayZee:
Do it then. Nobody is holding you!
You pay more for quality...


So because they are managed by churches, they should be free?
Are you the one who will pay the lecturers?
Will you pay the cleaners and all other non academic staff?
Will you pay their electricity bills?
Will you buy and maintain all the school equipment?

Did you even make use of your brain when you were typing this?

bjcuntis:
smh. Madam when u build ur university please make it free. It's funny when ppl spew this trash. Is it u that would be responsible for the recurrent expenditures of the university. They got a standard ma'am nd it has to be maintained. Do ur research,t the best universities of the world are very expensive.

coputa:
The source of the money that was used to build the schools (tithes /offerings) can still be used to subsidized the fees,so that the church members can send their children to study there.The church is making money,they should learn to use it for the service of humanity.

Statsocial:
Your problem is a special case of ignorance. Apostolic Faith is subsidizing Crawford by 500 million naira, Living Faith is subsidizing CU by 1.6 billion naira. I thought I uploaded an expenditure report of CU online yet ppl like you would never read it. The Churches cn't subsidize to the point where it breaks their back. Electricity in CU is about 24 hrs. Do u know how much that cost in a year or you think Churches should forget their core mission of reaching out to the unsaved and be fuelling generators for a university. What kind of unthinking generation do we have in Nigeria. Living Faith is in 65 countries in d world, rccg is in 192 are u going to bed one supporting this Churches financially by the time they spend their money on giving u free education. Most of you kp talking about old missionaries yet u forget that some of them were supported by governments. Up till the 1950s the US govt was financially supporting Christian missions. Is ur useless govt willing to financially supporting anyone. If you had paid attention to read the debate I had with biz.me u would know that many of these private universities are still groaning even with d so called fees.

asuustrike2009:
Do you mean public universities that have dirt hostels, poor teaching facilities ,witch hunting students, sexual abuse of students, rape,cultism and frequent strikes. Because that's what is obtainable there.haven't you wonder why most lecturers don't send their children to public universities any more,? Why are certificate now tissue papers as most countries reject them? Why a PhD holder from public universities becomes a taxi driver in Texas USA? Why our so called public universities are not topping in Africa yet we claim to be giant of Africa?

coputa:
The source of the money that was used to build the schools (tithes /offerings) can still be used to subsidized the fees,so that the church members can send their children to study there.The church is making money,they should learn to use it for the service of humanity.

coputa:
If living faith is subsidizing CU to the tone of 1.6 billion naira compared to their income,then,they've not done enough.note that living faith in Nigeria can fend for itself.They cannot break their neck,because they are just the custodians of the money that is given to them by poor worshipers who went there probably to to better their lots,(Education included)
Western countries supports churches financial because they pay taxes and use the money for humanitarian purposes.
Yes,reaching out the unsaved as the core mission of the church also includes giving out an affordable qualitative education to the poor.It is difficult to win the soul of a hungry,dejected and confused fellow.

Philadelphia:
Op. You're not totally right. Babcock has the highest fees. Fees for school of medicine is 3m per session.