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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by islandmoon: 8:32am On Mar 18, 2017
MSC , 1st class, or the so called 2.1 is not a green card to success, not even the job you are looking for , be intelligent , be smart and pray for grace, if you are intelligent as you said, how come you are still looking for a job, cook up something and be creative be like Seun osewa , Bill Gate or Mark of Facebook, the fact that you know how to read hand out to pass exam, submitted your assignment / continuous assessment to pass in school doesnt mean you are better than your friend, most guys you see with the so called 3rd Class doesnt even attend classes or submitting assignments, I know guys who club , Dance, chase babes, play football and still make 2.1, please wake up and help yourself

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by sirusX(m): 8:32am On Mar 18, 2017
OneNigerianist:
Sorry Op, but you sound ignorant and arrogant. Instead of protesting the lack of transparency in the shortlisting process you are contesting why a third class should be taken in your stead. Civil service dont use grade, thats the bitter truth. Once you have the degree, you are qualified. If you have a higher degree it is disregarded except where it is demanded as a requirement.

You should be concerned that not all applicants are being given the chance to go for interview but a handpicked few.
GBAM!!!
Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by lusen(m): 8:32am On Mar 18, 2017
We are all blessed differently. You made a better grade than your friend probably because you've been blessed you with a higher IQ than him. Your friend has been blessed with 'long leg', so he got the Job. that's life. lol.
Besides, the fact that your friend made a 3rd class in school and u made a better grade doesn't mean you are more qualified for the job than him.
Be happy for your friend. when it is your time. You will shine.

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by mrtheo33: 8:34am On Mar 18, 2017
As I went through the list I saw that the list favoured those with edu qualification more than other disciplines. i dont know if ur friend did edu that could be the reason he was selected

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by Nobody: 8:34am On Mar 18, 2017
UcheDA:
My dear it is a shame. I graduated with a first class and have all the documents needed for this recruitment. To my greatest suprise my name did not come out too. In fact only 2 first class candidates where successful in my state out of over 70 shortlisted names. I weep for the country. This is a big time blow!!!

Please don't waste tears on this country. Weep for yourselves.
You guys never come out here to tell us when such man-no-man moves pay you. Who knows if you didn't bag a first class via the same means. Don't get me wrong, just letting you know that in Nigeria everything is up for sale--first class degrees, jobs...etc.

University degree isn't the only thing employers consider. For instance, what pains did you take to create a killer CV? How much effort did you invest in your statement of purpose?

First class is not in university degrees alone, your job application must also be of first class standard to be considered. And yes, you may have a third class degree but put forward a first class application. So, you get the job.

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by blont(m): 8:34am On Mar 18, 2017
who knw if na all these mumu english wey u write for here u don go speak for there? if dat na the case, u r d cause of your problem.

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by Ezionye(f): 8:35am On Mar 18, 2017
I dnt think d Op is overqualified for d job. I saw other people with masters there too. U knw d power of connection in a this country.

I tot I saw batch A attached to d list, there might as well be a batch B....
Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by OkekeChristian(m): 8:35am On Mar 18, 2017
two words:

RAFFLE DRAW!
Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by adanny01(m): 8:37am On Mar 18, 2017
neoclassical:
I woke up this morning with the news that FCSC has shortlisted lists of successful candidates in the ongoing recruitment exercise by the Commission in various Federal Ministries.

Succinctly, I have a friend who studied Business Administration with 3rd Class, while I have Msc and Bsc (2.1) all in Economics. Both of us applied for the same position (SGL 09) in the Ministry of Trade & Investment. Perhaps, to my greatest perplexity, this guy's name was shortlisted while mine was conspicuously missing. Just a few minutes ago he opened up to me that the father made "some calls" on his behalf prior to this time.

For your information, we are of the same age bracket, applied for same position, from the same State. So what criteria could have been used to disqualify someone with Msc and Bsc (2.1) and someone with a 3rd Class was selected.

Holding other factors constant, I am so happy for him and I am so expectant that mine is coming. But this has kept me in an awe position, as the whole scenario depicts lack of correlation between merit and success in this entity called Nigeria.

WHAT A COUNTRY? So help us God!


The fact that you have a 2.1 does not make you more intellectual than your friend is. Some people suck at exams, others hate reading while others are just plain lazy evetually graduating with 3rd class.

I have a classmate who has 2.1 but was greatly assisted through out. They had a ring that was unbreakable in most exams. From the same class, a friend was lingering in pass for 3years but became very serious in the last 2 years. She later graduate with a 2.2. Think of it, if she had put same effort from year 1, 2.1 would have been sure. What i mean is that your grade is relative to both effort and intellect but not just a direct proportionality of intellect.

An IQ test will actually tell the difference. Thats why an aptitude test usual separates the beans from rice. I know someone with a third class that became the best in an aptitude test where even 1st class wrote.

However, the public employment system in Nigeria favours the connected or those who have relations in high places. It is wrong and condemnable.

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by ojuu4u(m): 8:38am On Mar 18, 2017
hrykanu231:


This way of thinking is why Nigeria is still backward in almost all facets when compared to other countries. So merit should be set aside, right?


its your way of reasoning that's bring Nigeria backward, why everything should base on paper qualifications? That's exact reason why everybody is buying certificates, productivity/experience should be placed above certificates. if truly he had masters and 2:1 as he claimed, that's, *more intelligent* let him think how he can stand on his own rather than looking for white collar job. No where in the world where getting job is not cut across different grades that job seekers possess, you shouldn't forget that we attended different schools and thought by different lecturers, first class in one school may graduate as lower" in other schools

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by cooldood(m): 8:39am On Mar 18, 2017
mrdashing10:
A country where grades are prioritised over knowledge.
A country where students do anything and everything to get good grades without trying to know the course itself.
Many third class holders are better than the First class and second class holders who can't defend it!!!
Your Msc and Bsc may not make you better than him. he might still perform better than you would in any firm.
I know a whole lot of First class and 2.1 holders who can't even speak good English. na sign language em carry write exams??
Op rest!!
Biggest fraud!this is the type of mentality that I pity 9ja for.if you can't pass exams in school to finish with an average grade,it doesn't mean you won't succeed in life,it just means you will not and shouldn't be qualified for some roles,simple.

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by Gwan2(m): 8:40am On Mar 18, 2017
crackhouse:
That he came out with third class does it make u more intelligent than him? Abeg comot here.
Can u please keep stfu.. undecided undecided. Forget grade because obviously someone's grade doesn't depict in its entirety intelligence....Buh one thing I will like you lots to know is that first class degree shows how coordinated, timely, procedural one can be. You can hardly find a first class graduate that is not coordinated in his approach to work, although there might be few exceptions. Yea, a third class can possess such traits as well but heck, the horse shouldn't go before the cart in saner climes. To make matters worse sef, there is an additional degree as an advantage and all you can say is the thrash you typed because you fall in that bracket ...*sPIT*

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by farous(m): 8:41am On Mar 18, 2017
I read this morning the below pos and I also made the attached comments. Someone was even responding to my comment to get skills,bla bla bla. I don't know why we find it difficult telling ourselves the truth.So a 3rd class is now better than 2.1 with MSC.Does this not prove my point to whoever care to listen that 60 percent of jobs in Nigeria is CONNECTION. Let's keep deceiving ourselves.

https://www.nairaland.com/3688832/8-things-get-job-despite/1

farous:
Truth be told. 60 percent of jobs in Nigeria is by CONNECTION(IM-Ima mmadu).So what's this OP is talking about?.Please let's not deceive ourselves.Even many of us reading this posts that got it through CONNECTION and know that its true.
Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by heysquare(m): 8:42am On Mar 18, 2017
u shud understand dat someone wt 3rd class result is like a less privileged ppl who need help but smone wt ur result has all it takes to gets a good job even wt multi national. dnt despair the best is coming and u wil gv testimonies.

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by cooljoe(m): 8:42am On Mar 18, 2017
My broda, even to get rice nd souvenir 4 wedding reception, na by who u knw. ys, d only tin u can get witout connection in naija is aids. but no worries, God dey. all in due time
Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by Mouthgag: 8:42am On Mar 18, 2017
saipn:
I don't understand something here are you saying a third class shouldn't have a chance at all in Nigerian? or third class should totally condemned out of any recruitment in Nigeria? pls elucidate more...
1st class b4 3rd.
You pick Lamborghini b4 Toyota camry
Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by sirusX(m): 8:43am On Mar 18, 2017
engrpheleeks:
Sorry bro. But the truth is, FSCS doesn't need ur grade. One thing is getting a good grade in the university, another thing is based on recommendation. It's not as if someone with a higher grade and qualification should automatically or is supposed to be employed first. Most companies only use those criteria to screen out people maybe due to crowd, etc. as the case may be. Anybody is qualified for the job provided you are certified. Haven't u heard of people with First class who can't even define the course they studied or have little or nothing to contribute to the office they are applying for? Companies don't need ur grades, most people have bastardized the degree certificate by buying their way through school. It's all a matter of what you've got to offer. And finally, most jobs are best given based on recommendation. When someone recommends someone for me, I should be 70% sure to get the qualities I am looking for in an employee. And whereby reverse is the case, the person who recommended the employee, has not just lost credibility. He has also placed his professionalism on the line.
That's not always the case...as long as that leg stronnnnng, everybody would cast a blind eye to the performance.

I have heard of cases from a friend in his workplace.

No be today 9ja don rugged...every1 knows that

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by olabrad: 8:43am On Mar 18, 2017
elderbros:



Please who else got this message

Name of company nko? Did you find out about that? Website nko? Does it not look like mlm to you?
Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by Nobody: 8:43am On Mar 18, 2017
1metre:
I think this guy is right. Revolution in the right direction. Let's mobilise ourselves and former a strong political party and kick out these old corrupt leaders.
na u go lead. nigga forget youths here can't start any revolution.
Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by Realdeals(m): 8:43am On Mar 18, 2017
neoclassical:
3rd or 2.1 apart, so in your thinking a 3rd Class holder should be selected ahead of a Masters degree holder ?
What's the job requirement? does it include M.sc?

I have issues with people that proceed for their M.sc immediately after B.sc without any field experience, some even goes for Phd. We lay too much emphasis on certificate and grades over field experience.

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by tobiasbeecher: 8:43am On Mar 18, 2017
Bobbyunitedfc:
you are not happy for him,u sound too bitter which i understand,u made it look like its the guys fault the dad made some calls on his behalf,i wonder how ur friend is going to feel when he sees this your writeup......

am very sure some peeps got shortlisted without knowing anyone....thats grace maybe thats what u should pray for not trying to bring the guy down for wetin no be him wahala.....


and whats the fuss about first class sef.......?
He didn't make it look like anything, he only said that his friend told him his father made some moves for him. I don't know why you people always distort what somebody said just to suit your narrative. By the way, there should be a lot of fuss about first class because it's not easy to earn. If I see anybody that made first class, I'm always in awe of them because I know it takes hardwork, sacrifice to make that grade. It's not for lazy people. And yes, the OP has all the reason to be disappointed because civil service recruitment is guided by merit as enshrined in the civil service rule,hence he should have been considered ahead of anybody that has a lower grade who also applied for the same position if they are using merit as a yardstick. Instead of you and some other people with the same mentality like you to diss the OP, you should channel your criticism to the FCSC who has thrown out meritocracy and elevatated mediocrity!

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by Nobody: 8:44am On Mar 18, 2017
neoclassical:
I woke up this morning with the news that FCSC has shortlisted lists of successful candidates in the ongoing recruitment exercise by the Commission in various Federal Ministries.

Succinctly, I have a friend who studied Business Administration with 3rd Class, while I have Msc and Bsc (2.1) all in Economics. Both of us applied for the same position (SGL 09) in the Ministry of Trade & Investment. Perhaps, to my greatest perplexity, this guy's name was shortlisted while mine was conspicuously missing. Just a few minutes ago he opened up to me that the father made "some calls" on his behalf prior to this time.

For your information, we are of the same age bracket, applied for same position, from the same State. So what criteria could have been used to disqualify someone with Msc and Bsc (2.1) and someone with a 3rd Class was selected.

Holding other factors constant, I am so happy for him and I am so expectant that mine is coming. But this has kept me in an awe position, as the whole scenario depicts lack of correlation between merit and success in this entity called Nigeria.

WHAT A COUNTRY? So help us God!


I'm sure in your mind, you were feeling that you would be picked over him but God has the final say.

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by teepain: 8:45am On Mar 18, 2017
neoclassical:
3rd or 2.1 apart, so in your thinking a 3rd Class holder should be selected ahead of a Masters degree holder ?

1. Was Msc the basic requirement for the job ?

2. Did the job advert state preference for candidates with 1st class or 2.1?

3. Was it stated in the job advert that the minimum grade of pass had to be 2.1?

If your answers to questions 1-3 above are all negatives then there isn't anything strange in your friend's selection.

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by cooldood(m): 8:45am On Mar 18, 2017
sholay2011:
Hmmm...it is well. And here in Canada, I got a part time government job (still doing my MSc) without knowing anybody (but God).

It is well with my country, Nigeria.
Tell them bro.
If Yankee or Canada be like the zoo called 9ja,how will foreigners find jobs since they no nobody.no wonder they are advancing and discussing flying cars,building homes with roofs that automatically have solar panels,9ja is still fighting over Customs CG uniform.yeye..

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by cooldood(m): 8:48am On Mar 18, 2017
ofeshe:
Ogbeni shey 3rd nobi result nii. Abeg park well sidon dia dey wail on top ur 2.1 no go find connect
I pity you and your fellow likers'.the unborn generation will surely pay for your orientation and attitude to life.
Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by sirusX(m): 8:49am On Mar 18, 2017
Pidgin2:


I'm sure in your mind, you were feeling that you would be picked over him but God has the final say.
Don't go there....his grievance shouldn't be about being selected first, but that people were not given an equal chance to prove themselves.

Let people come for interview and then listen to how they talk and reason...that's how you get the right man for the job
Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by cooldood(m): 8:50am On Mar 18, 2017
deanoffaculty:
I don't understand......Are you guyz now saying those who graduated with first class should be preffered over third class? Haba!! Where una wan make 2nd class and 3rd class people go? Everyone cannot be as bright as those who are graduated with 1st class. Abi 3rd class no be result?
Employment is not only meant for 1st class graduates, it is for everybody.
THIS IS NIGERIA!!!
Product of a failed society called 9ja
Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by tobiasbeecher: 8:50am On Mar 18, 2017
mrdashing10:
A country where grades are prioritised over knowledge.
A country where students do anything and everything to get good grades without trying to know the course itself.
Many third class holders are better than the First class and second class holders who can't defend it!!!
Your Msc and Bsc may not make you better than him. he might still perform better than you would in any firm.
I know a whole lot of First class and 2.1 holders who can't even speak good English. na sign language em carry write exams??
Op rest!!
Mr man stop consoling yourself, it is not a shame you come out with a lower grade but don't use it to abuse people who come out with a better grade. Why are you always seeing only those that cannot speak good English? grin grin grin Abeg we are tired of the overused cliche that a third class holder is better than a first call holder blah blah blah.
Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by ElsonMorali: 8:52am On Mar 18, 2017
Tyviv:
The matter tire me.... I look the list like 3times as I no see my name,I shake head comot.... Just bcoz I don't know one politician or the other, it is well cry

Don't think too much about it dear. It's not a reflection of who or what you are but a reflection of what the country has become.

Been there, done that. I know How it feels.

I Hope you get a good and satisfying job soon though.

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by ksbusari(m): 8:53am On Mar 18, 2017
2.1 ko F1 ni. make person find one politician to lock ni o.
Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by VeeVeeMyLuv(m): 8:53am On Mar 18, 2017
cooldood:
Why are you surprised,am actually surprised that you are surprised.Just start from the cabinet ministers of the present and past administrations, you'd find more of square pegs in round holes.It is exactly what explains why 9ja is doomed cos guess what that is how the cycle will go on.In future when your friend has kids looking for job,he will quickly 'just press some buttons' for his son/daughter that finish with third class and do not fit such positions.It's a cycle.Don't get me wrong,button is pressed almost everywhere but at least press button for graduates that have met the minimum requirements first (if you want to do that at all). I tell you this until the entire civil service workers are flushed out completely and new fresh graduates and fresh experienced hire are put in charge (net job loss=zero), Nigeria is going nowhere.Most Government agencies are the ones pulling back private enterprises cos most of them didn't get there on merit anyway.Go to customs, you'd find them there,go to CAC,FIRS,Passport office,etc.
exactly, instead of these mofos to create more employment opportunities and encourage more commerce and productivity, the massive greed in their soul wont let them, even when they know there is great demand for jobs that thing that always tell them that those who are looking for job deserve to be and should not be given.
Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by adanny01(m): 8:53am On Mar 18, 2017
Mouthgag:

1st class b4 3rd.
You pick Lamborghini b4 Toyota camry

It will b foolish to pick Lamborghini when you cant carry your entire family or cant travel out to your village. Or maybe you cant even afford to maintain the 'useless machine'.

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