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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by AZeD1(m): 9:29am On Mar 18, 2017
OP
https://www.google.com.ng/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/ey-firm-says-it-will-not-longer-consider-degrees-or-a-level-results-when-assessing-employees-10436355.html%3Famp

That is for you. In all the places I have worked and interviews i have done both in Nigeria and outside Nigeria, no one has ever asked about my grade. I have interviewed people and i don't care about their grades but how smart they are.

Also you need to know that who you know is very important in every country on this earth. You have a higher chance of getting a job at NASA, Google, Facebook if you know someone working there than just posting your CV.

To those still in school, there are two parts to schooling
1) Getting an education
2) Networking.

Do not forsake either of them as they are both very important.

All the best in your search OP.

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by vision202020: 9:32am On Mar 18, 2017
Bros. Though it's so painful. The connection made the difference
Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by beajjay(m): 9:34am On Mar 18, 2017
OP, just pray for divine favour.
I know no ONE in power/politics... .I've even forgotten I applied, until a friend called in yesterday morning that she saw my name.

BUT ANYWAYS.....I KNOW GOD!

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by Nobody: 9:35am On Mar 18, 2017
AngelicBeing:
Hahaha, you people dont know her, she is like that, go through her post, she has been based several times in travel section of Nairaland, she is frustrated, depressed, lonely & bitter wink

You are frustrated and will always be looking for a justifiable reason to make yourself happy haven migrated abroad as an illegal immigrant.

Nigeria is not and will never be a useless or cursed country, your life as an illegal immigrant abroad is just the beginning of your frustration on earth
Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by pachuz: 9:35am On Mar 18, 2017
Welcome to the zoo republic. He told you the truth; his father made some calls. That is how the zoo works. Who do you know. It doesnt matter what you can offer. It doesnt matter what you have achieved for yourself. In this republic, hard work is sacrificed on the alter of 'man know man'.
Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by potent5(m): 9:37am On Mar 18, 2017
It's even more painful when you remember how long and the energy it took to fill out the form and apply. Well, I only applied out of curiosity to see if Nigeria has really changed. But lo and behold it's even worse.
Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by PrinzDeJoy: 9:38am On Mar 18, 2017
This is satanic
Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by obailala(m): 9:38am On Mar 18, 2017
fav444:
My brother, I feel ur pain. But remember that we are not one and may not be in the nearest future. We all are in one way or the other divided along political, tribal, social status and class, religious, cultural and regional lines.

To my fellow citizens,
If you are a son of just an average man or worst still a poor man and u are busy preaching, believing or fighting over "one Nigeria", My dear wake up cos you are only dreaming.

One Nigeria is only being practised among politicians and rich class irrespective of their tribes, religion or geopolitical zone. They share their juicy jobs and appointments among themselves but some very poor people will be here fighting each other over them.
I'm struggling to understand what relevance your preaching about One Nigeria vs Divided Nigeria has to do with the plight of the Op. Has the obsession for disintegration gotten to this level?

The Op stated he is from the very same state with his friend but his friend was favoured over him because the dad had made contacts. So how on earth does this your preaching about division fit into this?... and then take a look at the number of likes you got... Smh!

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by DocHMD: 9:42am On Mar 18, 2017
obailala:
I'm struggling to understand what relevance your preaching about One Nigeria vs Divided Nigeria has to do with the plight of the Op. Has the obsession for disintegration gotten to this level?

The Op stated he is from the very same state with his friend but his friend was favoured over him because the dad had made contacts. So how on earth does this your preaching about division fit into this?... and then take a look at the number of likes you got... Smh!

Everybody cannot be a demented one-nigerianist vulture eating the dead and soon to be buried contraption. Comprendes?

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by UcheDA(f): 9:44am On Mar 18, 2017
bizme:


Please don't waste tears on this country. Weep for yourselves.
You guys never come out here to tell us when such man-no-man moves pay you. Who knows if you didn't bag a first class via the same means. Don't get me wrong, just letting you know that in Nigeria everything is up for sale--first class degrees, jobs...etc.

University degree isn't the only thing employers consider. For instance, what pains did you take to create a killer CV? How much effort did you invest in your statement of purpose?

First class is not in university degrees alone, your job application must also be of first class standard to be considered. And yes, you may have a third class degree but put forward a first class application. So, you get the job.

This is a very good and holistic write up. But FCSC didn't give people the chance to proof any thing you wrote here. That is the problem.

PS. I didn't get it the wrong way Lolz. I'm also involved in other talent development stuffs etc. For CV I know different CV methods and use the one that best suits the job or counrty. My only problem and the reason I commented on this post is just to throw more light on our messed up system. All the same I like your level of thinking. Some people are just going so off.
Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by Quintessential1(f): 9:46am On Mar 18, 2017
This dude was using his words wrongly!

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by Preator: 9:50am On Mar 18, 2017
UcheDA:
My dear it is a shame. I graduated with a first class and have all the documents needed for this recruitment. To my greatest suprise my name did not come out too. In fact only 2 first class candidates where successful in my state out of over 70 shortlisted names. I weep for the country. This is a big time blow!!!
them try for una syd o. not a single first class in my state. and I applied with a first class too.
Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by UcheDA(f): 9:50am On Mar 18, 2017
sirusX:

Don't go there....his grievance shouldn't be about being selected first, but that people were not given an equal chance to prove themselves.

Let people come for interview and then listen to how they talk and reason...that's how you get the right man for the job

My dear you just nailed all I have been trying to say. All the same, like a brother said they just saved the transport fare of people without connection.
Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by Jman06(m): 9:53am On Mar 18, 2017
Pidgin2:



Which fact? His adopted country is a cursed land not Nigeria, there is no truth in calling any country a zoo or a useless country, take note.
Those calling nigeria a zoo are even being polite because in many zoos there's usually some level of orderliness. I think the word " Jungle" will be more apt
Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by Nobody: 9:53am On Mar 18, 2017
neoclassical:
I woke up this morning with the news that FCSC has shortlisted lists of successful candidates in the ongoing recruitment exercise by the Commission in various Federal Ministries.

Succinctly, I have a friend who studied Business Administration with 3rd Class, while I have Msc and Bsc (2.1) all in Economics. Both of us applied for the same position (SGL 09) in the Ministry of Trade & Investment. Perhaps, to my greatest perplexity, this guy's name was shortlisted while mine was conspicuously missing. Just a few minutes ago he opened up to me that the father made "some calls" on his behalf prior to this time.

For your information, we are of the same age bracket, applied for same position, from the same State. So what criteria could have been used to disqualify someone with Msc and Bsc (2.1) and someone with a 3rd Class was selected.

Holding other factors constant, I am so happy for him and I am so expectant that mine is coming. But this has kept me in an awe position, as the whole scenario depicts lack of correlation between merit and success in this entity called Nigeria.

WHAT A COUNTRY? So help us God!

You had Bsc (2.1), Msc in Economics so what? How sure are we you performed better than the 3rd class guy...

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by obailala(m): 9:53am On Mar 18, 2017
DocHMD:


Everybody cannot be a demented one-nigerianist vulture eating the dead and soon to be buried contraption. Comprendes?
Nobody asked you to be one-nigerianist. You can be a two or ten-Nigerianist for all we care, but please be sensible about it. Rain falls and you lament it is because Nigeria is not yet divided, sun shines hard and you irrationally link it to one-Nigeria; two brothers fight themselves and destroy father's property and you still link it to your divide Nigeria narrative. You find a way to link any and every misfortune to one Nigeria when with the tiniest iota of common sense, it can be seen that the issue has got absolutely no correlation.

If you cannot see that that is an early sign of dementia, then its a pity.

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by hedonistic: 9:55am On Mar 18, 2017
You never see anything. It's a huge tragedy we have on our hands in this country.

Yet we keep shouting ourselves hoarse about corruption. Nepotism/favoritism is the biggest form of corruption and the most important reason (alongside incompetence) why Nigeria is still stagnant and underdeveloped. When you put unqualified people in the bureaucracy ahead of more competent and capable people, the result is that mediocrity is institutionalised...and a million 'anti corruption' presidents cannot bring change with a mediocre bureaucracy. The bureaucracy is the engine room of government. If you fix it, then you have fixed government and by extension, you have fixed Nigeria.

Sad.

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by Zonacom(m): 9:55am On Mar 18, 2017
Tyviv:
The matter tire me.... I look the list like 3times as I no see my name,I shake head comot.... Just bcoz I don't know one politician or the other, it is well cry
Pls how can i access the list?
Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by tobiasbeecher: 9:56am On Mar 18, 2017
mrdashing10:

I graduated with 2.1. I almost have my ICAN. The truth hurts tho.
You graduated with a 2.1? That means you can't speak good English and I'm sure you didn't merit it. That's the truth.

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by UcheDA(f): 9:59am On Mar 18, 2017
Preator:

them try for una syd o. not a single first class in my state. and I applied with a first class too.

Lolz. It is well. Just keeping developing yourself. Have you applied for any scholarship. Try Commonwealth Shared Scholarship. Nigeria has no say in this one unlike others. So no matter the outcome, you are assured that it is based on merit. Good luck in all your endeavours.

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by Sheggy13(m): 9:59am On Mar 18, 2017
GreenMavro:
I had a 2.1 n someone that had a first class upper was shortlisted while my name was not on the list!







op how you apply?
Are you really sure you had a 2.1 if you can be questioning how someone with a higher grade than you was picked ahead of you, and using the words first class "upper". There's nothing like upper in first class. it's only the second class grade that has upper and lower divisions.

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by obailala(m): 10:00am On Mar 18, 2017
neoclassical:
I woke up this morning with the news that FCSC has shortlisted lists of successful candidates in the ongoing recruitment exercise by the Commission in various Federal Ministries.

Succinctly, I have a friend who studied Business Administration with 3rd Class, while I have Msc and Bsc (2.1) all in Economics. Both of us applied for the same position (SGL 09) in the Ministry of Trade & Investment. Perhaps, to my greatest perplexity, this guy's name was shortlisted while mine was conspicuously missing. Just a few minutes ago he opened up to me that the father made "some calls" on his behalf prior to this time.

For your information, we are of the same age bracket, applied for same position, from the same State. So what criteria could have been used to disqualify someone with Msc and Bsc (2.1) and someone with a 3rd Class was selected.

Holding other factors constant, I am so happy for him and I am so expectant that mine is coming. But this has kept me in an awe position, as the whole scenario depicts lack of correlation between merit and success in this entity called Nigeria.

WHAT A COUNTRY? So help us God!

Too bad for you, but you just need to understand that this is Nigeria where we do everything to the extreme. Fact is that this thing happens in every single country but with the level of unemployment in Nigeria and the fantastically corrupt nature of Nigeria, the case of Nigeria is bound to be worse.

Just shrug it off your shoulders, and continue your search. You will be favoured on the day you will be favoured. Just be happy for your friend because unlike you who can still get chances in other places, your os completely fcked in Nigeria with his kind of result and his only chance on life might just be what his dad did. The struggle continues.

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by UcheDA(f): 10:01am On Mar 18, 2017
Mrokaykay:

You had Bsc (2.1), Msc in Economics so what? How sure are we you performed better than the 3rd class guy...

What is your reasons that he wouldn't. Were they given equal opportunity to test themselves.
Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by Guyman02: 10:01am On Mar 18, 2017
You didn't take your time to understand what Phyno meant in his song having 'CONNECT'
Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by teabully(m): 10:02am On Mar 18, 2017
daewoorazer:
You my friend, look into your hands, what do u see?


FREEDOM

as long as u are a youth of this country, it is illegal to wail, revolution is the key!

A word.
That just the zoo we found ourselves.


#zanga
Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by CHARLOE(m): 10:03am On Mar 18, 2017
Phinity318:

Bobo look into what u can offer with ur MSc/Bsc(2.1) and not what u can gain...I tell u in naija connect works faster than brains. be ur own boss. Bless
So we shld fold our arms n allow injustice to continue? Do u realise this same corruption is in all sectors? Be ur own boss no be beans! D environment is not biz friendly; no bank will give u loan, no light, rent increments etc SMEs are dying @ a fast rate.
Not discouraging anybody out there contemplating going into biz, been an entrepreneur for like 10yrs, just saying it as it is.
If we d youths don't rise up n take back this country from this criminals, our kids will question us! They'll never give u ur rights on a platter of gold, u have to fight for it n take it by force!
Bitter Truth: even God will not fight this battle for us, time for a revolution n d time is now! Let's start it from here, leverage on d power of social media, united, we can get whatever we want.
Rotimi amaechi once said to uniport students; until d youths start stoning them, they'll not stop stealing! Think about that.
Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by Diplomaticbeing(m): 10:03am On Mar 18, 2017
The word "merit" is subjective especially in a matter like this. Both of you're graduates and the position both of you applied for required the service of a graduate too. So, why you may have bested him with your grades, he on the other hand bested you with his social aptitude (whether or not his father was the one that made the call on his behalf doesn't matter) which obviously is more important to the employer that chose him instead of you.

This case in question is not an issue of nepotism or cronyism, no. It's purely a case of aptitudunal shrewdness. Cases like this is the reason why formal certificates aren't awarded solely based on academic excellence. It's only in mathematical applications that 1 plus 1 will constantly yield 2 as an answer.

I know that my humble and unbiased opinion herein won't go down well with the lowlives (petty people), if you're one don't bother picking on me because I don't join issues with you and your ilks.

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by souloho19(m): 10:04am On Mar 18, 2017
1metre:
I think this guy is right. Revolution in the right direction. Let's mobilise ourselves and former a strong political party and kick out these old corrupt leaders.

Heard of the cycle of children brought up in abusive households, how they grow up to beat their wife and stuff like that..
Same way with revolution, you get the power but you know what the power does to man??
What gud is taking over when we know what you gone do?
The only real revolution happens inside of you

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by adeoba2008(m): 10:05am On Mar 18, 2017
When you have more qualifications than your boss that are already on the job. At times you need to hide some of your higher degrees when applying for jobs in Nigeria. That is why most people are still jobless today.
Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by Jman06(m): 10:05am On Mar 18, 2017
The question is, what criteria were used in the selection process? Was there an aptitude test? Or an oral interview? Ofcourse there was none of those.
Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by chux677: 10:05am On Mar 18, 2017
If YOU DON'T KNOW WHY A 3RD CLASS WAS SELETED LEAVING YOU WITH 2.1, I WANT TO ASK YOU WHAT THE BASIC QUALIFICATION IS? JUST LIKE UNIVERSITY ADDMISSIONS, YOU ARE EXPECTED TO HAVE AT LEAST A CREDIT IN 5 SUBJECTS, ONCE YOU HAVE 5 CREDITS YOU ARE AS QUALIFIED AS SOMEONE WITH 5 As. Either of you could be selected so stop lamenting . The guy with 3rd class is as qualified as you as it is not stated that 2.1 is the basis for employment, all that is required is BEING A GRADUATE.

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Re: FCSC: A Country Where 3rd Class Is Considered Above Msc + Bsc (2.1) by souloho19(m): 10:10am On Mar 18, 2017
1metre:
I think this guy is right. Revolution in the right direction. Let's mobilise ourselves and former a strong political party and kick out these old corrupt leaders.

Heard of the cycle.. of children brought up in abusive households, how they grow up to beat their wife and stuff like that..
Same way with revolution, you get the power but you know what the power does to man??
What gud is taking over when we know what you gone do?
The only real revolution happens inside of you

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