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pazienza:
Still bleating as usual. Nothing new I guess! Lol.

In comprehension and summary it is said that the main thrust of the argument is found at the beginning or end of a piece.
From the very beginning of the response to that question Nzeogwu made it clear that there was tribalism in the Southern execution, then went further to substantiate his claim in the next lines. Read again:

"Ejindu: All right. A lot has been talked and written about the January coup. But how tribalistic was it really in conception and execution?
Nzeogwu: IN THE NORTH, NO. IN THE SOUTH, YES."

Then in the lines that followed he gave the details to substantiate his affirmative stance as regards the South. Why you expected him to repeat the affirmation while giving the details remains a puzzle.
Please which secondary school did you attend?

Deadlytruth:
In comprehension and summary it is said that the main thrust of the argument is found at the beginning or end of a piece.
From the very beginning of the response to that question Nzeogwu made it clear that there was tribalism in the Southern execution, then went further to substantiate his claim in the next lines. Read again:

"Ejindu: All right. A lot has been talked and written about the January coup. But how tribalistic was it really in conception and execution?
Nzeogwu: IN THE NORTH, NO. IN THE SOUTH, YES."

Then in the lines that followed he gave the details to substantiate his affirmative stance as regards the South. Why you expected him to repeat the affirmation while giving the details remains a puzzle.
Please which secondary school did you attend?

And then "incompetence and misguided
considerations", became Igbo coup, isn't it?

Lol!

You are a joke!

pazienza:
And then "incompetence and misguided
considerations", became Igbo coup, isn't it?

Lol!

You are a joke!

You have lost steam.
Ejindu: ... .was the coup tribalistic in conception?
Nzeogwu: "In the North, no. In the South, yes.....in the Eastern Region nothing was practically done....they let us down."
Incompetence does not really arise because the same guys were very competent in the killing of Balewa, Akintola, etc in the West.

Deadlytruth:
You have lost steam.
Ejindu: ... .was the coup tribalistic in conception?
Nzeogwu: "In the North, no. In the South, yes.....in the Eastern Region nothing was practically done....they let us down."
Incompetence does not really arise because the same guys were very competent in the killing of Balewa, Akintola, etc in the West.

But Nzeogwu said, "incompetence and misguided
considerations", were the basic issues, and he singled out the Entire South for that.

But here you are, puting words into dead Nzeogwu mouth, including cancelling out his own words, to push your unfounded Igbo agenda.

Can't you see that your desperation is getting the better of you?

But the other three who were
stationed in the South failed because of
incompetence and misguided considerations in the
eleventh hour . ~ Nzeogwu

No No, Nzeogwu you are wrong, the coup was an Igbo coup and failed only in the East and not south, because it's an Igbo coup! Nzeogwu you must have it somewhere in your mind that the coup was an Igbo coup, and since you refused to say it, I, a bitter pained Edo Igbophobic being having been given the power of reading minds by Edo wizards and Witches, had read it from your mind, four decades after the coup and your death.
Nzeogwu, you implied that the coup was an Igbo coup and was carried out tribalism by Igbos.

~ The Lamentations of a Pained Edoid Igbophobic bitter being, March 2017.

Hehe!

pazienza:
But the other three who were
stationed in the South failed because of
incompetence and misguided considerations in the
eleventh hour . ~ Nzeogwu

No No, Nzeogwu you are wrong, the coup was an Igbo coup and failed only in the East and not south, because it's an Igbo coup! Nzeogwu you must have it somewhere in your mind that the coup was an Igbo coup, and since you refused to say it, I, a bitter pained Edo Igbophobic being having been given the power of reading minds by Edo wizards and Witches, had read it from your mind, four decades after the coup and your death.
Nzeogwu, you implied that the coup was an Igbo coup and was carried out tribalism by Igbos.

~ The Lamentations of a Pained Edoid Igbophobic bitter being, March 2017.

Hehe!

Still manifesting poor comprehension. Nzeogwu listed the factors of incompetence and misguided considerations for the South and then proceeded to apportion each of the factors to each of the Southern regions specifically.

Hear him:

"The most senior among them was in charge of a whole brigade and had all the excuse and opportunity in the world to mobilize his troops anywhere, anyhow and any time. He did it badly.

In Lagos, even allowing for one or two genuine mistakes, the job was badly done." -----------Note that the full stop here restricts the mention of genuine mistakes (contextual synonym with incompetence) to only the Lagos operation.

Then he continues:

"The Mid-West was never a big problem." ------- meaning it was inconsequential whether any action hapenned there or not.

He continues again:

"But in the East, our major target, nothing practically was done. He and the others let us down.------- Recall that Nzeogwu' began by saying the Southern commander had under him a whole brigade which he could moblize to anywhere he wanted. This clearly means that they deliberately refused to do anything here and not on account of incompetence.
Incompetence can't be an issue where no job is done. Only a job done could be described as badly (incompetently) done or not. Where no job is done the issue of incompetence in doing it does not come in at all. You can't make mistakes in a job you did not do. In fact the cluase "they let us down" means a deliberate betrayal. When people dishonour agreements by mistake it can't be described as a let down. But if it is deliberate, then it is a let down and betrayal. And that was what happened in the Eastern Region hence Nzeogwu describes it as a let down. Use your dictionary.
The above analysis leads therefore to the conclusion that Nzeogwu's ".. in the South, yes" assertion was in reference to the Eastern Region alone.

Also note that Nzeogwu did not mention Ibadan at all in the interview because the job was perfectly done there. That indicates further that he did not generalize over the whole South in his mention of incompetence and misguided considerations.
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Verdict:
Kaduna: competence
Ibadan: competence
Lagos: Genuine mistakes (incompetence)
Benin: insignificant
Enugu: No action due to tribal (misguided) considerations.

Deadlytruth:
Still manifesting poor comprehension. Nzeogwu listed the factors of incompetence and misguided considerations for the South and then proceeded to apportion each of the factors to each of the Southern regions specifically.

Hear him:

"The most senior among them was in charge of a whole brigade and had all the excuse and opportunity in the world to mobilize his troops anywhere, anyhow and any time. He did it badly.

In Lagos, even allowing for one or two genuine mistakes, the job was badly done." -----------Note that the full stop here restricts the mention of genuine mistakes (contextual synonym with incompetence) to only the Lagos operation.

Then he continues:

"The Mid-West was never a big problem." ------- meaning it was inconsequential whether any action hapenned there or not.

He continues again:

"But in the East, our major target, nothing practically was done. He and the others let us down.------- Recall that Nzeogwu' began by saying the Southern commander had under him a whole brigade which he could moblize to anywhere he wanted. This clearly means that they deliberately refused to do anything here and not on account of incompetence.
Incompetence can't be an issue where no job is done. Only a job done could be described as badly (incompetently) done or not. Where no job is done the issue of incompetence in doing it does not come in at all. You can't make mistakes in a job you did not do. In fact the cluase "they let us down" means a deliberate betrayal. When people dishonour agreements by mistake it can't be described as a let down. But if it is deliberate, then it is a let down and betrayal. And that was what happened in the Eastern Region hence Nzeogwu describes it as a let down. Use your dictionary.
The above analysis leads therefore to the conclusion that Nzeogwu's ".. in the South, yes" assertion was in reference to the Eastern Region alone.

Also note that Nzeogwu did not mention Ibadan at all in the interview because the job was perfectly done there. That indicates further that he did not generalize over the whole South in his mention of incompetence and misguided considerations.
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Verdict:
Kaduna: competence
Ibadan: competence
Lagos: Genuine mistakes (incompetence)
Benin: insignificant
Enugu: No action due to tribal (misguided) considerations.

Lol! Conjectures, conjectures and more conjectures!

"But the other three who were
stationed in the South failed because of
incompetence and misguided considerations in the
eleventh hour".

This was Nzeogwu statement.


Your mis interpretations and extrapolation of it to reach an already pre determined conclusion is at best pathetic.

[b] In the North, no. In the South, yes. We
were five in number, and initially we knew quite
clearly what we wanted to do. We had a short list
of people who were either undesirable for the
future progress of the country or who by their
positions at the time had to be sacrificed for peace
and stability. Tribal considerations were
completely out of our minds at this stage. But we
had a set-back in the execution. Both of us in the
North did our best. But the other three who were
stationed in the South failed because of
incompetence and misguided considerations in the
eleventh hour. The most senior among them was
in charge of a whole brigade and had all the
excuse and opportunity in the world to mobilize his
troops anywhere, anyhow and any time. He did it
badly. In Lagos, even allowing for one or two
genuine mistakes, the job was badly done. The
Mid-West was never a big problem. But in the
East, our major target, nothing practically was
done. He and the others let us down. [/b]


My interpretations:

1. Nzeogwu believed those in the North did a perfect job.

2. He believed in General that those in the South failed because of " Incompetence and misguided considerations".

3. He now went forward to analyse how bad the "incompetence and misguided considerations" were in the Three southern regions:

Those in Lagos, he believed did badly even discounting genuine mistakes. The bad in this sense oweing to misguided considerations and incompetence. The neutral reader need not assign other reasons for this, seeing as Nzeogwu had already given this information forehand.

Those in Midwest he gave an Ok score.

Those in the East, he scored the least, as in his judgment, they did not, because of not just incompetece on their part, but also misguided considerations.

pazienza:
Lol! Conjectures, conjectures and more conjectures!

"But the other three who were
stationed in the South failed because of
incompetence and misguided considerations in the
eleventh hour".

This was Nzeogwu statement.


Your mis interpretations and extrapolation of it to reach an already pre determined conclusion is at best pathetic.

There were four points in the South. Nzeogwu in the next lines mentioned only three areas of failure meaning one area was successful - Ibadan.
For the other three areas of the South he then apportioned incompetence and misguided considerations with Lagos getting incompeence while the East got misguided (tribal)considerations.

pazienza:
Lol! Conjectures, conjectures and more conjectures!

"But the other three who were
stationed in the South failed because of
incompetence and misguided considerations in the
eleventh hour".

This was Nzeogwu statement.


Your mis interpretations and extrapolation of it to reach an already pre determined conclusion is at best pathetic.

It was me who said "..... he had a whole brigade to himself and could command it anywhere......But in the East nothing was practically done, they let us down", just to reach a predetermined conclusion, right?

If he was referring to all of the South in his admittance of tribal conception as you would have us believe, then which Yoruba person killed Igbos in Lagos or Ibadan and refused to kill his own fellow Yorubas?
Logical/scientific reasoning is not same as conjecture. Use your dictionary.

Honestly speaking, I think our discussion had come to an end, as you have nothing new to contribute.
It's almost like a drowning man hanging unto a tree branch( mis interpretation of Nzeogwu plain words) to survive.

It's almost impossible to make him let off the tree branch as that would mean death.

"But the other three who were
stationed in the South failed because of
incompetence and misguided considerations in the
eleventh hour" ~ Nzeogwu



No No, Nzeogwu you are wrong, the coup was an
Igbo coup and failed only in the East and not south,
because it's an Igbo coup! Nzeogwu you must have
it somewhere in your mind that the coup was an
Igbo coup, and since you refused to say it, I, a
bitter pained Edo Igbophobic being having been
given the power of reading minds by Edo wizards
and Witches, had read it from your mind, four
decades after the coup and your death.
Nzeogwu, you implied that the coup was an Igbo
coup and was carried out of tribalism by Igbos.


~ The Lamentations of a Pained Edoid Igbophobic
bitter being, March 2017.
Hehe!

pazienza:
Honestly speaking, I think our discussion had come to an end, as you have nothing new to contribute.
It's almost like a drowning man hanging unto a tree branch( mis interpretation of Nzeogwu plain words) to survive.

It's almost impossible to make him let off the tree branch as that would mean death.

You want the discussion to end so that I'll stop exposing more and more your poor comprehension ability.
You that got carried away by mere headline of a report on WAEC performance statistics and started celebrating your Middle East without first reading between the lines to grasp the finer details which ironically exposed your region as lagging behind in all genuine indices of assessment as I later pointed out to your consternation.
You celebrated leading figures of Unity Schools enrolment for your region when such actually indicates relative non-availability of private and state-owned ones there.
You celebrated a statistical report which finer details expose your zone as the least in overall school enrolment but leading in drop out rate.
Should I therefore be surprised seeing you also harping on Nzeogwu's introductory line in a response without giving any cognizance to the finer details of his explanations?

pazienza:
"But the other three who were
stationed in the South failed because of
incompetence and misguided considerations in the
eleventh hour" ~ Nzeogwu



No No, Nzeogwu you are wrong, the coup was an
Igbo coup and failed only in the East and not south,
because it's an Igbo coup! Nzeogwu you must have
it somewhere in your mind that the coup was an
Igbo coup, and since you refused to say it, I, a
bitter pained Edo Igbophobic being having been
given the power of reading minds by Edo wizards
and Witches, had read it from your mind, four
decades after the coup and your death.
Nzeogwu, you implied that the coup was an Igbo
coup and was carried out of tribalism by Igbos.


~ The Lamentations of a Pained Edoid Igbophobic
bitter being, March 2017.
Hehe!

You have refused to answer why Nzeogwu however did not include the Ibadan operation in his specific explanations of the failures in the South as he did for Lagos, Benin and Enugu.
"All the four stationed in the South failed" is poles apart in difference from "The other three stationed in the South failed".

Deadlytruth:
You want the discussion to end so that I'll stop exposing more and more your poor comprehension ability.
You that got carried away by mere headline of a report on WAEC performance statistics and started celebrating your Middle East without first reading between the lines to grasp the finer details which ironically exposed your region as lagging behind in all genuine indices of assessment as I later pointed out to your consternation.
You celebrated leading figures of Unity Schools enrolment for your region when such actually indicates relative non-availability of private and state-owned ones there.
You celebrated a statistical report which finer details expose your zone as the least in overall school enrolment but leading in drop out rate.
Should I therefore be surprised seeing you also harping on Nzeogwu's introductory line in a response without giving any cognizance to the finer details of his explanations?

1. This is now bordering on schizophrenia coming from you. When exactly did you show any stats during the course of our discussion? What stats are you talking about? Are you drunk? What finer details do you speak of? What indices?


2. Where is your stats on the number of private owned schools in the East, how exactly did you arrive at this conclusion? Is this part of your regular conjectures concocted to fit an already predetermined conclusion even when facts point differently?

Where is your stat of SE lagging behind overall on school enrollment? Is your head touching?

3. Nzeogwu already made himself clear, his words are also simple, it read "Misguided considerations and incompetence", your schizophrenic mind manufactured that to mean "Igbo coup and Igbo tribalism", how am I supposed to help you with that? am I a psychiatrist?

Deadlytruth:
You have refused to answer why Nzeogwu however did not include the Ibadan operation in his specific explanations of the failures in the South as he did for Lagos, Benin and Enugu.
"All the four stationed in the South failed" is poles apart in difference from "The other three stationed in the South failed".

Is it not simple? Are you that dense not to figure it out? Perhaps Ibadan operations met Nzeogwu satisfaction to large extent or he didn't feel like talking about it for whatever reason, seeing that he Still talked about the Northern operations, even though it met his expectations. Either way, only Nzeogwu knew why he didn't and he didn't say why he didn't in that interview, only your deranged mind is giving you ideas on what you believe Nzeogwu would have said or implied. It's all in your mind, not on Nzeogwu interview, that very much is obvious.

Deadlytruth:
You obviously lack knowledge of the difference between founding and establishing. AAU was built and began to function before ESUTECH. Go figure.
On the WAEC statistics: Performance figures across all categories of schools are generally not a true reflection of the intellectual prowess of the states due to examination malpractice culture which is known to thrive briskly in private secondary schools of the SE. A more accurate idea can however be got by limiting the sample space to Federal Government Colleges which are known for zero tolerance to exam malpractices. Find Below the WAEC 2016 FGC statistics in which Edo leads the pack........... Punch Newspaper.


Performance register for the 104 Federal Government Colleges:
1. Federal Government Girls’ College, Benin, outshined the others with 230 of its 232 i.e. 99.14% pupils getting the university admission yardstick.
2. Federal Government Girls’ College, Kazaure came second with 98.10%
3. Federal Government College, Rubochi, came third with its 146 candidates out of 156, i.e. 93.59%, beating the university admission yardstick
4. The Federal Government Academy, Suleja; FGC, Okigwe, and the FGC, Nise, came fourth, fifth and sixth respectively.
5. FGC, Ijanikin, which occupied the seventh position in the rankings, emerged the best in the state with 357 out of its 387 candidates - 92.25%
6. Occupying the eighth, ninth, 10th, 11th and 12th positions are the FGC, Okposi; FGC, Ikole-Ekiti; FGGC Efon-Alaye; FGGC, Minjibir, and the FGC, Jos, in that order.

Unity schools are not the only schools in existence, so your use of their statistics alone is misleading. States with high Unity Schools enrollment obviously lack alternative schools relative to others. Moreover it is the total number of enrollment for WAEC that can be relied on to know which state has the least incidents of drop out along the way. Find below the 2016 WAEC enrollment figures for some states:
WAEC Registration 2016:

State Registered Candidates
Lagos 141, 963
Oyo 78,896
Ogun 75,944
Kano 62,511
Edo 62, 327
Abia (SE) 52, 801
Anambra(SE) 46, 385
From the above it is clear that most students in the Middle East drop out before getting to SS3.
It also lends credence to the credibility of 2016 census in which the MIiddle East came out least.

Ok, I am just seeing this now. Obviously you edited it.

Available information on Wikipedia show that that ASUTECH( ESUT) was established in 1979 and founded in 1980 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enugu_State_University_of_Science_and_Technology ESUT website claim
the school was the first state University and was established in 1981. http://www.esut.edu.ng
Where as AAU was founded in 1981. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambrose_Alli_University

If you have better proof of AAU being first state University in Nigeria, you are yet to tender it here, other than your usual conjectures that you insist must be accepted as the truth, Lol!

What evidence do you have of malpractice thriving more in SE than in Edo or anyother part of Nigeria? Any stat to back this up? Or are we supposed to take you conjectures because you are a bitter Edo man? Actually, the information reaching me is that Edo state has high number of miracle centres and that everyone in Delta is rushing their to make it!
Anyway, on the available info on Exam malpractice,no link could be established between exam malpractice and high performance of states in WAEC. SW has the highest rate of exam malpractice in the South and NW and NC has the highest rate of exam malpractice in the country, yet none of them is leading WAEC stats on
performance.
https://www.nairaland.com/1289101/bayelsa-worst-exam-malpractice-record





No. We can't limit it to Federal government colleges because not all of our children school there. You are only angling for Federal government colleges because you felt Edo did well there. Well, unless you can prove that there are more incidence of exam malpractice in SE than in Edo, the total performance of all schools in the state still remains a better assessment tool than just few Federal government colleges.
Furthermore, there is no evidence whatsoever showing that exam malpractice can't take place in federal government colleges, a colleague who scored in the North informed me that exam malpractice is an institutionalized practice in government schools in the North. The School authorities help the students cheat to encourage them to further their education to tertiary level as most of them show apathy towards tertiary level of education.
Here is a list of top 50 secondary schools in Nigeria by WAEC 2016 performance, SE has many schools there, debunking your lies of SE not having many good private schools.
https://www.myschoolgist.com.ng/ng/best-secondary-schools-in-nigeria-by-waec/

States with high Unity cut off marks show high rate of performance amongst indigenes of such states. The higher the overall performance of indigenes of that state, the higher their cut off marks to ensure they don't exceed their quota number. It also go without saying that states whose indigenes perform poorly would also have low cut off marks to fill in their quota number.
This is common sense, but I guess it's not common these days.


WAEC stat you posted does not take cognizance the state of Origin, but just state of residence. Many Igbos are not resident in SE and so swell up the Number of other regions. If state of Origin rather than that of residence is taken by WAEC like JAMB did before Igbophobic Nigerians got angry and stopped it, SE states would still come up tops in the enrollment figures.
This is JAMB e https://www.nairaland.com/237534/look-going-school-nigeria-statistics nrollment figures over some years before it was stopped.
Note that state of Origin rather than that of residence was used by JAMB, so that an Anambra student in Lagos state that was added to Lagos numbers by WAEC would instead be added to Anambra number by JAMB, notice the big difference it made.

pazienza:
Ok, I am just seeing this now. Obviously you edited it.

Available information on Wikipedia show that that ASUTECH( ESUT) was established in 1979 and founded in 1980 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enugu_State_University_of_Science_and_Technology ESUT website claim
the school was the first state University and was established in 1981. http://www.esut.edu.ng
Where as AAU was founded in 1981. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambrose_Alli_University

If you have better proof of AAU being first state University in Nigeria, you are yet to tender it here, other than your usual conjectures that you insist must be accepted as the truth, Lol!

What evidence do you have of malpractice thriving more in SE than in Edo or anyother part of Nigeria? Any stat to back this up? Or are we supposed to take you conjectures because you are a bitter Edo man? Actually, the information reaching me is that Edo state has high number of miracle centres and that everyone in Delta is rushing their to make it!
Anyway, on the available info on Exam malpractice,no link could be established between exam malpractice and high performance of states in WAEC. SW has the highest rate of exam malpractice in the South and NW and NC has the highest rate of exam malpractice in the country, yet none of them is leading WAEC stats on
performance.
https://www.nairaland.com/1289101/bayelsa-worst-exam-malpractice-record





No. We can't limit it to Federal government colleges because not all of our children school there. You are only angling for Federal government colleges because you felt Edo did well there. Well, unless you can prove that there are more incidence of exam malpractice in SE than in Edo, the total performance of all schools in the state still remains a better assessment tool than just few Federal government colleges.
Furthermore, there is no evidence whatsoever showing that exam malpractice can't take place in federal government colleges, a colleague who scored in the North informed me that exam malpractice is an institutionalized practice in government schools in the North. The School authorities help the students cheat to encourage them to further their education to tertiary level as most of them show apathy towards tertiary level of education.
Here is a list of top 50 secondary schools in Nigeria by WAEC 2016 performance, SE has many schools there, debunking your lies of SE not having many good private schools.
https://www.myschoolgist.com.ng/ng/best-secondary-schools-in-nigeria-by-waec/

States with high Unity cut off marks show high rate of performance amongst indigenes of such states. The higher the overall performance of indigenes of that state, the higher their cut off marks to ensure they don't exceed their quota number. It also go without saying that states whose indigenes perform poorly would also have low cut off marks to fill in their quota number.
This is common sense, but I guess it's not common these days.


WAEC stat you posted does not take cognizance the state of Origin, but just state of residence. Many Igbos are not resident in SE and so swell up the Number of other regions. If state of Origin rather than that of residence is taken by WAEC like JAMB did before Igbophobic Nigerians got angry and stopped it, SE states would still come up tops in the enrollment figures.
This is JAMB e https://www.nairaland.com/237534/look-going-school-nigeria-statistics nrollment figures over some years before it was stopped.
Note that state of Origin rather than that of residence was used by JAMB, so that an Anambra student in Lagos state that was added to Lagos numbers by WAEC would instead be added to Anambra number by JAMB, notice the big difference it made.

Isn’t it rather funny that your link reports that ASUTECH was founded in 1980 and established in 1979? Which comes first between establishing and founding? That chronological defect alone makes that claim fraudulent. Wikipedia is open to just any Tom, Dick and Harry to write on and update.
On the other hand Ambrose Alli (The then governor of Bendel State) was taken to court by the Arewnistan-Biafra government of Shagari-Ekweme (NPN) challenging the right of a state governor to establish a university since such was unprecedented as of that moment. Ambrose Alli floored Shagari-Ekweme in court. Would NPN have taken him to court if ASUTECH had already been established and running before then? Find below one of the numerous links to that.
http://dailypost.ng/2015/02/05/sunny-okoro-anti-corruption-crusade-buhari-style/
Your own very link (https://www.nairaland.com/1289101/bayelsa-worst-exam-malpractice-record) punctures your claim that people are rushing from Delta to Edo due to conduciveness for Exams malpractice. It reads:
For the zonal Exam Ethics Golden States, it said FCT,Yobe, Kano, Abia, Oyo and Edo States ranked number
one in Exam Ethics Index in their various zones to emerge the leader in their respective geopolitical
zones.
How come Deltans are rushing to Edo for exam malpractice opportunity when Edo leads in Exam Ethics Index in the region to which both states belong? See your inability to recognize fine details between the lines rearing its head again?
As per schools derecognized for exam malpractices Edo does not appear but Anambra (a Middle East State) had four. The report reads:
The statistics also showed that Bayelsa State has thehighest number of de-recognised schools(13),
followed by Delta (12), Ondo (eight), Kaduna (seven),Cross River (seven), Imo (seven), Plateau (six), Rivers(six) Kogi (five) Lagos (five) Nasarawa (five), Sokoto(four) and Anambra (four).
On the overall situation on examination malpractices the same report had this to say:
The 2012 Exam Ethics Report, by the Exam Ethics Marshals International, has identified Bayelsa, Sokoto,
Ekiti and Imo, as the first, second, third and fourth worst states with exam malpractice records.
Edo is absent but a South East State, Imo, features there. Remember our contest is Edo versus the entire Middle East?
Are these not confirmatory enough that exam malpractice culture is far more at home in the Middle East than in Edo State?
Your claim that the SW emerged the worst in the South and NW and NC nationally once more betrays your inability to read between the lines. The reports actually reads:
It named the North-east geopolitical zone as the most ethics-friendly zone in 2012 with an EEI of 87.05%.
The North-central zone came second with and EEI of 84.09%, while South-west came third with EEI of 83.26. South-east, North-west and South-southemerged fourth, fifth and sixth respectively.
Please read it over again. It is your own referenced site. Here it is: (https://www.nairaland.com/1289101/bayelsa-worst-exam-malpractice-record).
How does coming first (NE) and second (NC) in Exams ethics friendliness translate to being the leaders in exam malpractices? How does the South West’s coming third in EEI friendliness translate to being the leader in exam malpractice in the South? You obviously don’t know the meaning of exam ethics. I knew you are so daft and dense at comprehension. But I will help you this time around. Going by the report, the EEI (i.e. abhorrence to exam malpractices) ranking can be correctly interpreted and arranged as follows.
Nationally speaking:
North East - First
North Central – second
South West – third
Middle East – Fourth
North West – Fifth
South – South – Sixth
In the South:
South West – First
Middle – East Second
South –South – Third (This however does not invalidate the thrust of my argument because we are on Edo alone versus the Middle East and Edo is a clearly departure from the General SS trend as already seen).
The SW is well ahead of the Middle East but in your characteristic pursuit of tribal agenda you lied that the SW is the worst in the South. See how unreliable your claims and how poor your analyses could be?
Your claim that there are incidents of organized exam malpractices in Unity Schools is unsubstantiated with any link. It therefore remains a face-saving conjecture by you. On the other hand read this link in which WAEC lays the blame of exam malpractices squarely on private schools and not Unity Schools: http://sunnewsonline.com/waec-blames-private-schools-for-high-rate-of-examination-malpractice/ Therefore I am very much in order to have limited the sample space to Unity Schools in which Edo has always won the gold medal.
On the best 100 schools judged by other factors here http://nigerianfinder.com/top-100-best-secondary-schools-in-nigeria/ Edo alone has five schools while the entire middle east has just two


Your reference to this link https://www.myschoolgist.com.ng/ng/best-secondary-schools-in-nigeria-by-waec/ is a fraudulent diversion or else how does a list showing the best performing 50 schools in 2015 WAEC become same as a list of total number of schools per state? In your warped reasoning we have only 50 secondary schools in Nigeria? You are just a mighty fraud walking on four legs.
In addition to that, on a close study, the list features 8 schools for Edo State alone and 9 for the whole Middle East meaning an average of 1.8 per state in the ME. Your own evidences have always been substantiating my claims even more solidly that I myself do, so need I bother myself getting any more evidences as you demand? See your miserable life? If you had good comprehension ability you would not deliberately be referencing links which only advance your opponent’s position.
Again you claim that high cut off marks are an indication of performing states. Pure rubbish! Even a fool knows that the concept of cut-off marks came into Nigeria courtesy of the phenomenon of more admission seekers than the available spaces in the universities which in turn necessitates the use of cut-off marks to justify the denial of admission to other equally qualified candidates. Same goes for unity schools. That still substantiates my position that the number of Middle Easterners seeking admission to Unity schools are relatively very high on account of relative non-availability of other forms of schools in their home region.
Hear yourself:
“WAEC stat you posted does not take cognizance the state of Origin, but just state of residence. Many Igbos are not resident in SE and so swell up the Number of other regions. If state of Origin rather than that of residence is taken by WAEC like JAMB did before Igbophobic Nigerians got angry and stopped it, SE states would still come up tops in the enrollment figures.
This is JAMB e https://www.nairaland.com/237534/look-going-school-nigeria-statistics nrollment figures over some years before it was stopped.
Note that state of Origin rather than that of residence was used by JAMB, so that an Anambra student in Lagos state that was added to Lagos numbers by WAEC would instead be added to Anambra number by JAMB, notice the big difference it made.”
Was the bolded not what I meant when I earlier on said:
“The Middle East is a region of one of the two largest tribes yet in 2006 census came last among the six regions thus her people run away from home to compete for infrastructure and educational facilities with the natives of other regions on account of their region not having anything to offer them”?
You denied it with your strange and preposterous population density theories. Now here you are, returning to your two day old vomit just to get a premise to defend a new lie? So which do we believe now?
You are simply beyond salvage!

pazienza:
Is it not simple? Are you that dense not to figure it out? Perhaps Ibadan operations met Nzeogwu satisfaction to large extent or he didn't feel like talking about it for whatever reason, seeing that he Still talked about the Northern operations, even though it met his expectations. Either way, only Nzeogwu knew why he didn't and he didn't say why he didn't in that interview, only your deranged mind is giving you ideas on what you believe Nzeogwu would have said or implied. It's all in your mind, not on Nzeogwu interview, that very much is obvious.

Still exhibiting stupidity and devil's advocacy. The North had only one point of action which was kaduna over which he was in charge. We are talking about North and South and this imp is trying to change the narrative to North versus Ibadan (Western) Region alone. Pure balloney!
Answer the simple question. If all the South failed his expectation then why did he leave Ibadan off mention?

pazienza:
1. This is now bordering on schizophrenia coming from you. When exactly did you show any stats during the course of our discussion? What stats are you talking about? Are you drunk? What finer details do you speak of? What indices?


2. Where is your stats on the number of private owned schools in the East, how exactly did you arrive at this conclusion? Is this part of your regular conjectures concocted to fit an already predetermined conclusion even when facts point differently?

Where is your stat of SE lagging behind overall on school enrollment? Is your head touching?

3. Nzeogwu already made himself clear, his words are also simple, it read "Misguided considerations and incompetence", your schizophrenic mind manufactured that to mean "Igbo coup and Igbo tribalism", how am I supposed to help you with that? am I a psychiatrist?

Of course you are inebriated and bewitched. Have your ouwn stats not proved you wrong so far?
Are you that silly and retarded not to have known that the least WAEC registration figures paraded by Middle East indicates poor enrollment and high drop out incidents?
He apportioned the factors to the regions and the Middle East got misguided considerations on tribal perspective.
"In the North, no. In The South, yes." Do you understand that at all? If you do, then in which part of the South had none of their politicians as a victim of the lopsided killings? Buffon!

Isn’t it rather funny that your link reports that
ASUTECH was founded in 1980 and established in
1979? Which comes first between establishing and
founding? That chronological defect alone makes
that claim fraudulent. Wikipedia is open to just any
Tom, Dick and Harry to write on and update.
On the other hand Ambrose Alli (The then governor
of Bendel State) was taken to court by the
Arewnistan-Biafra government of Shagari-Ekweme
(NPN) challenging the right of a state governor to
establish a university since such was
unprecedented as of that moment. Ambrose Alli
floored Shagari-Ekweme in court. Would NPN have
taken him to court if ASUTECH had already been
established and running before then? Find below
one of the numerous links to that.
http://dailypost.ng/2015/02/05/sunny-okoro-anti-
corruption-crusade-buhari-style

Lol! Anyone can post anything anywhere.
See for example:
https://nigerianscholars.com/2015/09/settling-down-in-esut-for-first-year-students.html
The writer claims ESUT is the first state University. His claims doesn't make it true or false.
Okoro Sunny is entitled to his oan opinions not facts!

Here is a quote from AAU official website puting the school establishment at 1981 but it wasn't until 1982 before the school kicked off.

"As
he often stated at different occasions in the
planning stages and the on set of the
University, Prof. Alli was very optimistic that
posterity would justify his many decisions in
the establishment of the University. There
cannot be a better vindication of his optimism
than the fact that the University which he
established as Bendel State University, Ekpoma
in 1981 (which after the creation of Edo State
in 1992 had its name changed to Edo State
University) has gone through an Act passed by
the State House of Assembly and signed into
law by the Executive Governor of Edo State,
Chief Lucky Nosakhare Igbinedion in 1999 been
renamed (Professor) Ambrose Alli University,
Ekpoma, after the founder."
https://www.aauekpoma.edu.ng/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=103&Itemid=172


Ambrose Alli might have fought the FG to permit the establishment of state universities, but the take off of AAU for some reasons was delayed. Hence making AAU not the first state university in Nigeria.


Here is a quote from
ESUT official website:

"It is with delight that I welcome you to the
Enugu State University of Science and
Technology, a top-ranking University of
Technology in Nigeria and indeed the nation's
technological pride.
Established in 1981 as the very first state
University, the University has grown
tremendously, stretching its academic disciplines
and research across six different Schools and
thirty academic departments. ESUT is located at
Agbani in Enugu State, Nigeria and its vision and
mission are not only clearly stated, but very
vigorously pursued"
Prof. Luke O. Anik

Notice it was clearly stated that the school
was established as the first state University.

[b] Your own very link ( http://
www.nairaland.com/1289101/bayelsa-worst-
exam-malpractice-record ) punctures your claim
that people are rushing from Delta to Edo due to
conduciveness for Exams malpractice. It reads:
For the zonal Exam Ethics Golden States, it said
FCT,Yobe, Kano, Abia, Oyo and Edo States ranked
number
one in Exam Ethics Index in their various zones to
emerge the leader in their respective geopolitical
zones.
How come Deltans are rushing to Edo for exam
malpractice opportunity when Edo leads in Exam
Ethics Index in the region to which both states
belong? See your inability to recognize fine details
between the lines rearing its head again?
As per schools derecognized for exam malpractices
Edo does not appear but Anambra (a Middle East
State) had four. The report reads:
The statistics also showed that Bayelsa State has
thehighest number of de-recognised schools(13),
followed by Delta (12), Ondo (eight), Kaduna
(seven),Cross River (seven), Imo (seven), Plateau
(six), Rivers(six) Kogi (five) Lagos (five) Nasarawa
(five), Sokoto(four) and Anambra (four).
On the overall situation on examination
malpractices the same report had this to say:
The 2012 Exam Ethics Report, by the Exam Ethics
Marshals International, has identified Bayelsa,
Sokoto,
Ekiti and Imo, as the first, second, third and fourth
worst states with exam malpractice records.
Edo is absent but a South East State, Imo, features
there. Remember our contest is Edo versus the
entire Middle East?
Are these not confirmatory enough that exam
malpractice culture is far more at home in the
Middle East than in Edo State?
Your claim that the SW emerged the worst in the
South and NW and NC nationally once more
betrays your inability to read between the lines.
The reports actually reads:
It named the North-east geopolitical zone as the
most ethics-friendly zone in 2012 with an EEI of
87.05%.
The North-central zone came second with and EEI
of 84.09%, while South-west came third with EEI of
83.26. South-east, North-west and South-
southemerged fourth, fifth and sixth respectively.
Please read it over again. It is your own referenced
site. Here it is: ( http://
www.nairaland.com/1289101/bayelsa-worst-
exam-malpractice-record ). [/b]

Lol! Yes! Honest mistake on my part. I mistook the EEI for the EMI. For that I accept my mistake.

I mentioned the story of People tripping to Edo from Delta to write Exams to exactly show you that hear say will always be hear say, only stats matters.

Now on the stats:

It would appear that when it suits you, you single out states from SE to compare with Edo, and when it suits you, you compare the entire SE with Edo. You can't have it both ways.

On the EEI, SE ranked higher than SS where Edo belongs. Edo coming first in SS is akin to a fat Person coming first as the slimmest amongst a group
of fat people. The truth remains that he Still fat, regardless.

"It named the North-east geopolitical zone as the
most ethics-friendly zone in 2012 with an EEI of
7.05%
. The North-central zone came second with and EEI
of
84.09%, while South-west came third with EEI of
83.26. South-east, North-west and South-south
emerged fourth, fifth and sixth respectively.
Yobe State emerged the 2012 National Exam Ethics
Golden State with Exam Ethics Index of 89.57%"

A SE Ebonyi was amongst the States in the federation with no case of deregistered centre, Edo wasn't among them, only Anambra and Imo featured high in number of closed centres, Abia, Ebonyi and Enugu didn't.


"highest number of de-recognised schools(13),
followed by Delta (12), Ondo (eight), Kaduna
(seven),
Cross River (seven), Imo (seven), Plateau (six),
Rivers
(six) Kogi (five) Lagos (five) Nasarawa (five),
Sokoto
(four) and Anambra (four). No school was de-
recognised in Taraba, Ebonyi, Borno, Niger,
Adamawa"

This explains why in the greater scheme of things, SE as a zone had the second least Number of closed centres for malpractice, but you dubiously ignored that and instead focused on Anambra and Imo, whose numbers were cumulatively watered down by low numbers of Abia, Enugu and Ebonyi, bearing in mind that Abia is the best performing state in SE and Nigeria in total.

"It indicated that South-south has the highest
number
of de-registered schools (35.1 percent), followed
by
South-west (19.3 per cent), North-central (15.7
percent), North-west (15 percent), South-east
(13.2
percent), and North East (1.7 percent)"

Your claim that there are incidents of organized
exam malpractices in Unity Schools is
unsubstantiated with any link. It therefore remains
a face-saving conjecture by you. On the other hand
read this link in which WAEC lays the blame of
exam malpractices squarely on private schools and
not Unity Schools: http://sunnewsonline.com/
waec-blames-private-schools-for-high-rate-of-
examination-malpractice/ Therefore I am very
much in order to have limited the sample space to
Unity Schools in which Edo has always won the
gold medal.


Well, maybe it's time we analyze total performance of SE federal government colleges in exams.

Edo might have come first in WAEC, but three SE schools( Nise, Okigwe and Okposi) made the top 10, that's solidity especially when we consider the fact that this same Nise came first in NECO and no school in Edo featured in NECO top 3. Now that's consistency and class.


"The analysis, obtained from the
federal ministry of education,
shows that the overall best
performing unity schools in the
2014/2015 BECE/NECO
examinations were Federal
Government Academy, Suleja,
Niger State; Federal Science and
Technical College, Awka, Anambra
State; and Federal Government
College, Nise, Anambra State.
The three schools took the first,
second and third positions
respectively, based on percentile
number of students who made
requisite number of credits.
For the 2014/2015 SSCE/NECO
examinations include; the first
position was Federal Government
College, Nise, Anambra State, with
99.57 per cent; Second position
was Federal Government Girl’s
College, Gwandu, Kebbi State, with
99.14 per cent; and third position
went to Federal Government
College, Robuchi, FCT, Abuja, with
98.72 per cent.
For the 2014/2015 NBC/NTC/
NABTEB the grading had Federal
Science and Technical College,
Yaba, Lagos State with 116
candidates certified; followed by
Federal Science and Technical College, Ijebu
Mushin, Ogun State with 93 candidates
certified; and Federal Science and Technical
College, Awka Anambra State with 74
candidates certified.
The overall best schools for the 2014/2015
WASSCE/WAEC examinations were Federal
Government Girls’ College, Benin, Edo State;
Federal Government Girls’ College, Kazaure,
Jigawa State; and Federal Government College,
Robuchi, FCT, Abuja".


http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/208869-exclusive-100-federal-unity-colleges-ranked-waec-neco-exams.html

So, as you can see, even if we start using Unity schools as the standard of measurement,SE still beats Edo hands down, over all.

Your reference to this link https://
www.myschoolgist.com.ng/ng/best-secondary-
schools-in-nigeria-by-waec/ is a fraudulent
diversion or else how does a list showing the best
performing 50 schools in 2015 WAEC become
same as a list of total number of schools per
state? In your warped reasoning we have only 50
secondary schools in Nigeria? You are just a
mighty fraud walking on four legs.
In addition to that, on a close study, the list
features 8 schools for Edo State alone and 9 for
the whole Middle East meaning an average of 1.8
per state in the ME. Your own evidences have
always been substantiating my claims even more
solidly that I myself do, so need I bother myself
getting any more evidences as you demand? See
your miserable life? If you had good
comprehension ability you would not deliberately
be referencing links which only advance your
opponent’s position.

Lol! That link was posted to show you the true status of things and why SE states will continue to punch your minority Edo. It was posted to show you that there was more to performance of schools than just unity schools performance, which clearly Edo still doesn't lead SE states overall.

Lol! so you now understand the insignificance of your Edo to SE . When it suits your case you remember that Edo is just one state and SE a conglomerate of states, when it doesn't, you forget that SE is a conglomerate of states that the individual states can't be separated from each other, but you still go ahead to pick out poor performing SE state to compare with Edo, why you ignore the SE state that outperformed Edo.

Since you have decided that your Edo with empty landmass can be compared to SE, you don't have the right to complain about the minority status of your Edo, seeing as you deemed it fit to consider yourself equal with SE, for the sake of this argument, Edo will be judged as equal to SE in all ramifications, unless you are ready to accept the minority and inferiority status of Edo to the combined might of SE, in which case, this argument becomes futile.

But since you had decided to pick and chose which state in SE to compare Edo with, when it appear the general SE stat is not favouring you. I have also chosen to pick and chose randomly any SE state I deem fit to use to prove the inferiority of Edo, once that SE state outperform Edo, after all, it's one for all and all for one. It's only fair, if you ask me.

Well, for the sake of clarity, SE have 16 schools out of the top 50 best performing secondary schools in WAEC in Nigeria. Here are they from the list:

1. Marist Brotherly Juniorate, Uturu

2.Grundtvig international secondary school, Oba

3. Mea Mater Elizabeth high school,Agbani

4.Britach Secondary School, Umuahia

5.Cor Mariae Girls Comprehensive Secondary School, Aba

6.Airforce Comprehensive School, Agbani

7. Standard Comprehensive High school, Ehere, Aba

8. Holy Ghost Academy, Amaokpala

9. Standard international college, Onicha

10.Divine Royal International College, Nkpor

11.Urban Secondary School, Umuna Orlu

12. Austica Memorial College, Nanka

13. Dority International Secondary School,Umuodu Avenue, Abayi Aba

14. St Charles Secondary School, Onitsha

15. Konigins Des Friendes College, Uga

16. Word of Faith Secondary School, Umuokhia, Aba


In percentage, that's approximately 32% of the total slot.
Your Edo according to you had 8 slots, already establishing your inferiority and Minority status.
Don't whine to me about Edo being just one state. Because it's all part of it. Edo has one state even with its empty large land mass, and SE has 5 states with small landmass, because Edo is minority and inferior to SE in every ramifications.

Here is the link again, incase you want to go and correct your blunder.
https://
www.myschoolgist.com.ng/ng/best-secondary-

It is also pertinent to note that most of these schools are ran by missionaries/Churches.

Again you claim that high cut off marks are an
indication of performing states. Pure rubbish! Even
a fool knows that the concept of cut-off marks
came into Nigeria courtesy of the phenomenon of
more admission seekers than the available spaces
in the universities which in turn necessitates the
use of cut-off marks to justify the denial of
admission to other equally qualified candidates.
Same goes for unity schools. That still
substantiates my position that the number of
Middle Easterners seeking admission to Unity
schools are relatively very high on account of
relative non-availability of other forms of schools
in their home region.

Obviously, Common sense is not common to you.

If 10,000 people are fighting for admission slot of 300, and the least score of the best scoring 300 of them is 139/200. It's only common sense for the recruiters to fix the cut off Mark for those 10,000 people at 139, as that's the exact score level that will give them the best 300 people they need to fill their 300 admission slots.

On the other hand, if 400 people from another zone are seeking for same 300 slots allocated for their zone, and the least score of the best scoring 300 of them is 100/200. It's only common sense that 100 will become the cut off Mark for that zone, reflecting the score of the last of the best 300 of them.

If 1 million from another zone are seeking for same 300 slot allocated for their zone, and the last of the best scoring 300 of them scored 70/200. 70 becomes the cut off Mark the recruiters had to set to get the best 300 from that zone.

If 75 people from another zone are seeking for 300 slot allocated to them, it becomes obvious that all of them will be admitted and in this case, the cut off Mark of the zone becomes the cut of Mark of the person who came last in the exam amongst them.

It becomes apparent that cut off marks depends not only on the number of people applying, but also on the general performance of the people.

Ofcourse, the list of top 50 schools in the WAEC performance where SE schools had 32% of the slot, already invalidated your argument of SE not having enough schools in SE other than unity schools.

“The Middle East is a region of one of the two
largest tribes yet in 2006 census came last among
the six regions thus her people run away from
home to compete for infrastructure and educational
facilities with the natives of other regions on
account of their region not having anything to offer
them”?
You denied it with your strange and preposterous
population density theories. Now here you are,
returning to your two day old vomit just to get a
premise to defend a new lie? So which do we
believe now?
You are simply beyond salvage!


You are not wise.

I clearly stated that SE is densely populated and contain enough people as it stands.
SE is peopled by Ndiigbo, but Igboland didn't start and end in SE. There are Igbos in SS too.

Igbos are adventurous people and are not only spread over the entire Nigeria, both over the entire Africa and indeed the world.

It does not in anyway mean that conditions in those places are better than those in SE or Igboland in General, it only mean that the Igbo man is not afraid to take his chances where ever they present.
There are no stats whatsoever showing that any part of Nigeria is outperforming SE in indices of development, but human and infrastructural.

Deadlytruth:
Of course you are inebriated and bewitched. Have your ouwn stats not proved you wrong so far?
Are you that silly and retarded not to have known that the least WAEC registration figures paraded by Middle East indicates poor enrollment and high drop out incidents?
He apportioned the factors to the regions and the Middle East got misguided considerations on tribal perspective.
"In the North, no. In The South, yes." Do you understand that at all? If you do, then in which part of the South had none of their politicians as a victim of the lopsided killings? Buffon!

Hear hear! The wailing of a bitter Igbophobic being. Ohanaeze, listen to him:


"But the other three who were
stationed in the South failed because of
incompetence and misguided considerations in the
eleventh hour" ~ Nzeogwu


No No, Nzeogwu you are wrong, the coup was an
Igbo coup and failed only in the East and not south,
because it's an Igbo coup! Nzeogwu you must have
it somewhere in your mind that the coup was an
Igbo coup, and since you refused to say it, I, a
bitter pained Edo Igbophobic being having been
given the power of reading minds by Edo wizards
and Witches, had read it from your mind, four
decades after the coup and your death.
Nzeogwu, you implied that the coup was an Igbo
coup and was carried out of tribalism by Igbos.
~ The Lamentations of a Pained Edoid Igbophobic
bitter being, March 2017.
Hehe!

Deadlytruth:
Still exhibiting stupidity and devil's advocacy. The North had only one point of action which was kaduna over which he was in charge. We are talking about North and South and this imp is trying to change the narrative to North versus Ibadan (Western) Region alone. Pure balloney!
Answer the simple question. If all the South failed his expectation then why did he leave Ibadan off mention?

Keep running in circles.

pazienza:
Isn’t it rather funny that your link reports that
ASUTECH was founded in 1980 and established in
1979? Which comes first between establishing and
founding? That chronological defect alone makes
that claim fraudulent. Wikipedia is open to just any
Tom, Dick and Harry to write on and update.
On the other hand Ambrose Alli (The then governor
of Bendel State) was taken to court by the
Arewnistan-Biafra government of Shagari-Ekweme
(NPN) challenging the right of a state governor to
establish a university since such was
unprecedented as of that moment. Ambrose Alli
floored Shagari-Ekweme in court. Would NPN have
taken him to court if ASUTECH had already been
established and running before then? Find below
one of the numerous links to that.
http://dailypost.ng/2015/02/05/sunny-okoro-anti-
corruption-crusade-buhari-style

Lol! Anyone can post anything anywhere.
See for example:
https://nigerianscholars.com/2015/09/settling-down-in-esut-for-first-year-students.html
The writer claims ESUT is the first state University. His claims doesn't make it true or false.
Okoro Sunny is entitled to his oan opinions not facts!

Here is a quote from AAU official website puting the school establishment at 1981 but it wasn't until 1982 before the school kicked off.

"As
he often stated at different occasions in the
planning stages and the on set of the
University, Prof. Alli was very optimistic that
posterity would justify his many decisions in
the establishment of the University. There
cannot be a better vindication of his optimism
than the fact that the University which he
established as Bendel State University, Ekpoma
in 1981 (which after the creation of Edo State
in 1992 had its name changed to Edo State
University) has gone through an Act passed by
the State House of Assembly and signed into
law by the Executive Governor of Edo State,
Chief Lucky Nosakhare Igbinedion in 1999 been
renamed (Professor) Ambrose Alli University,
Ekpoma, after the founder."
https://www.aauekpoma.edu.ng/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=103&Itemid=172


Ambrose Alli might have fought the FG to permit the establishment of state universities, but the take off of AAU for some reasons was delayed. Hence making AAU not the first state university in Nigeria.


Here is a quote from
ESUT official website:

"It is with delight that I welcome you to the
Enugu State University of Science and
Technology, a top-ranking University of
Technology in Nigeria and indeed the nation's
technological pride.
Established in 1981 as the very first state
University, the University has grown
tremendously, stretching its academic disciplines
and research across six different Schools and
thirty academic departments. ESUT is located at
Agbani in Enugu State, Nigeria and its vision and
mission are not only clearly stated, but very
vigorously pursued"
Prof. Luke O. Anik

Notice it was clearly stated that the school
was established as the first state University.

Still denying the obvious facts even as they get clearer by the day. Do you still need to be schooled anymore that the retrogressive and reactionary Arewanistan-Biafra FG of Shagari-Ekweme's action of sueing Ambrose Alli over a state's right to establish a university logically means that Ambrose Alli pioneered the sponsoring of bill on state owned university and that the Bendel House of Assembly also pioneered the idea and of signing such a bill into law, and that the Bendel State Government was first to approach the NUC for approval and licence for a state university?
Does that therefore not equate to AAU being founded first on account of being the first to have its bill approved by a legislature? A university comes into existence the day it is founded.
Ambrose Alli successful disgraced the Arewanistan-Biafra FG in court to validate the earlier passage of the BENSU (now AAU) bill, and the Biafra state of Anambra copied Bendel immediately, then whose own came first? The originator's or the copy cat's?
Of course Alli Ambrose Alli could not commence the actual building of the structures immediately because the Arewanistan-Biafra FG held Bendel allocation while the litigation lasted, and while in the protocols of getting the refunds and interest your Anambra quickly went ahead to sponsor a similar bill and started building. Yet you are celebrating the false sense of an achievement you made in an uneven field of play where the actual winner was held down by your own biased umpire brother at the centre. Shameful! That was a manifestation of the Biafran attitude of shamelessly celebrating victories and achievements made through dishonest and fraudulent means. That spirit still live in you lots till today.
If not for sheer wickedness, envy and anti-progressivism which defined and still defines Middle Easterners, why would an educated, well read and exposed Ekueme join a relatively illiterate and education-hating Fulani man to resist the establishment of a school? Was Ambrose Alli going to use their salaries as president and vice to fund it or he begged their Arewanistan-Biafra government for financial assistance towards it? Was it on your heads he planned to build it? What the heck was your problem with the man's innocent and masses-oriented decision to build a university? How was the decision supposed to affect you biafrauds negatively? That is how wicked, envious, vindictive and covetous you people are, yet you keep pointing accusing fingers on others who have actually suffered more in your hands. Playing the victim card when they are actually the oppressors and saboteurs and have always partnered with Arewanistan to victimize other Southerners. Hypocrites

pazienza:
[b] Your own very link ( http://
www.nairaland.com/1289101/bayelsa-worst-
exam-malpractice-record ) punctures your claim
that people are rushing from Delta to Edo due to
conduciveness for Exams malpractice. It reads:
For the zonal Exam Ethics Golden States, it said
FCT,Yobe, Kano, Abia, Oyo and Edo States ranked
number
one in Exam Ethics Index in their various zones to
emerge the leader in their respective geopolitical
zones.
How come Deltans are rushing to Edo for exam
malpractice opportunity when Edo leads in Exam
Ethics Index in the region to which both states
belong? See your inability to recognize fine details
between the lines rearing its head again?
As per schools derecognized for exam malpractices
Edo does not appear but Anambra (a Middle East
State) had four. The report reads:
The statistics also showed that Bayelsa State has
thehighest number of de-recognised schools(13),
followed by Delta (12), Ondo (eight), Kaduna
(seven),Cross River (seven), Imo (seven), Plateau
(six), Rivers(six) Kogi (five) Lagos (five) Nasarawa
(five), Sokoto(four) and Anambra (four).
On the overall situation on examination
malpractices the same report had this to say:
The 2012 Exam Ethics Report, by the Exam Ethics
Marshals International, has identified Bayelsa,
Sokoto,
Ekiti and Imo, as the first, second, third and fourth
worst states with exam malpractice records.
Edo is absent but a South East State, Imo, features
there. Remember our contest is Edo versus the
entire Middle East?
Are these not confirmatory enough that exam
malpractice culture is far more at home in the
Middle East than in Edo State?
Your claim that the SW emerged the worst in the
South and NW and NC nationally once more
betrays your inability to read between the lines.
The reports actually reads:
It named the North-east geopolitical zone as the
most ethics-friendly zone in 2012 with an EEI of
87.05%.
The North-central zone came second with and EEI
of 84.09%, while South-west came third with EEI of
83.26. South-east, North-west and South-
southemerged fourth, fifth and sixth respectively.
Please read it over again. It is your own referenced
site. Here it is: ( http://
www.nairaland.com/1289101/bayelsa-worst-
exam-malpractice-record ). [/b]

Lol! Yes! Honest mistake on my part. I mistook the EEI for the EMI. For that I accept my mistake.

I mentioned the story of People tripping to Edo from Delta to write Exams to exactly show you that hear say will always be hear say, only stats matters.

Now on the stats:

It would appear that when it suits you, you single out states from SE to compare with Edo, and when it suits you, you compare the entire SE with Edo. You can't have it both ways.

On the EEI, SE ranked higher than SS where Edo belongs. Edo coming first in SS is akin to a fat Person coming first as the slimmest amongst a group
of fat people. The truth remains that he Still fat, regardless.

"It named the North-east geopolitical zone as the
most ethics-friendly zone in 2012 with an EEI of
7.05%
. The North-central zone came second with and EEI
of
84.09%, while South-west came third with EEI of
83.26. South-east, North-west and South-south
emerged fourth, fifth and sixth respectively.
Yobe State emerged the 2012 National Exam Ethics
Golden State with Exam Ethics Index of 89.57%"

A SE Ebonyi was amongst the States in the federation with no case of deregistered centre, Edo wasn't among them, only Anambra and Imo featured high in number of closed centres, Abia, Ebonyi and Enugu didn't.


"highest number of de-recognised schools(13),
followed by Delta (12), Ondo (eight), Kaduna
(seven),
Cross River (seven), Imo (seven), Plateau (six),
Rivers
(six) Kogi (five) Lagos (five) Nasarawa (five),
Sokoto
(four) and Anambra (four). No school was de-
recognised in Taraba, Ebonyi, Borno, Niger,
Adamawa"

This explains why in the greater scheme of things, SE as a zone had the second least Number of closed centres for malpractice, but you dubiously ignored that and instead focused on Anambra and Imo, whose numbers were cumulatively watered down by low numbers of Abia, Enugu and Ebonyi, bearing in mind that Abia is the best performing state in SE and Nigeria in total.

"It indicated that South-south has the highest
number
of de-registered schools (35.1 percent), followed
by
South-west (19.3 per cent), North-central (15.7
percent), North-west (15 percent), South-east
(13.2
percent), and North East (1.7 percent)"

Honest mistakes? Ahahahahahahahahahah­ahahahahahahaha........ ! Ahahahahahahahaha....!
Ahahaha hahahahaha........! Ki ki ki ki ki ki ki ki.......
Do you have any flair for honesty? Rather than confess your were caught in your track of lies and poor comprehension ability which I have been pointing out, you hide under "honest" mistakes! You should have better been more honest by terming it a honest lie or come out clean by accepting poor comprehension as. responsible after obviously searching the dictionary for the meanings of "ethics" as used in the context of the link. Whaaaaaaat?! Biafraudians! You thought I would not open each and every one of those links and read between the lines unlike you?
Your new excuse on why you mentioned Delta-Edo exodus is another face saving volte face. Going by the context of the whole paragraph you were aiming at ridiculing Edo as a miracle centre epicentre. You now claim you merely said so to underscore the reliability of only stats? Was it not after you posted a link with the stats (unknown to you courtesy of poor comprehension) that had Edo leading the SS in EEI that you vomited that trash? If you could not study the stats in your own link before making assertions then how really true is your claim that you rely on only stats and not conjectures based on hearsay?
Our comparison of Edo with the Muddle East is in the sense that no single one of them outdoes Edo on its own. And so far that has been validated by your own stats. I am not trying to have it both ways but for your poor comprehension, you know. Edo, by the stats, remains a very slim person among very fat ones as it topped the chart on overall slimness with all the fat and slim put together.
As long as it is Edo vs Middle East then your theory on schools derecognition would have been valid if Edo had recorded just one case. Yes Edo was not mentioned among the Zero incidence states. But it was equally not mentioned among those with incidences. After all you've interpreting Nzeogwu's words with a similar premise too. Recall you said that since Nzeogwu did not say it verbatim that Igbos perpetrated tribalism in the coup then it must not be logically deduced as such. Same here now. Watered down or watered down, if you find the average closure for Middle East - i.e. adding Anambra's 5 to Imo's 7 and dividing by the five ME states you get 2.4 per state. Edo had zero. So it is.
I can see that, for the fact that it suits your wish right now, you now labour to place Edo in the SS after having been barking like a mad dog that Edo is not a SS state on various NL threads. Find one of such threads below where you argued that Edos are Yorubas and have no cultural similarities of riverine culture, language sameness, etc with the SS and therefore belongs more to the SW than the SS.
https://www.nairaland.com/2603582/­view-biafra-edo-perceptive#38066350
Even on page 9 of this very thread you had already declassified Edo from the SS. Here is your comment:
"Why do you want to hide behind an artificial grouping like SS .......... Edo man why are you hiding behind SS when Igbos in SS are still trumping you there? ............
Yes in School enrollment, both primary, secondary and
Every SE state has a state university and polytechnic and the private university industry here is warming up.
How many does your Edo have? or you want to hide behind SS again?"
But now you've placed Edo in the SS again in quest of your fraudulent attempt to play down her superlative WAEC performance as a single state. Like I said before, you are a monumental fraud walking on four legs. Unrepentant turncoat!
I hope you won't call it a "honest" mistake again?
When it suits him, he claims Edo is a SW state, but when it does not suit his fraudulent narrative he groups Edo with SS. This is reminiscent of their "One-Nigeria" sloganeering when they were benefitting from their friendship with the North but suddenly turned round to " Give us Biafra" when Arewa outdid them. Inconsistent clowns

pazienza:
Your claim that there are incidents of organized
exam malpractices in Unity Schools is
unsubstantiated with any link. It therefore remains
a face-saving conjecture by you. On the other hand
read this link in which WAEC lays the blame of
exam malpractices squarely on private schools and
not Unity Schools: http://sunnewsonline.com/
waec-blames-private-schools-for-high-rate-of-
examination-malpractice/ Therefore I am very
much in order to have limited the sample space to
Unity Schools in which Edo has always won the
gold medal.


Well, maybe it's time we analyze total performance of SE federal government colleges in exams.

Edo might have come first in WAEC, but three SE schools( Nise, Okigwe and Okposi) made the top 10, that's solidity especially when we consider the fact that this same Nise came first in NECO and no school in Edo featured in NECO top 3. Now that's consistency and class.


"The analysis, obtained from the
federal ministry of education,
shows that the overall best
performing unity schools in the
2014/2015 BECE/NECO
examinations were Federal
Government Academy, Suleja,
Niger State; Federal Science and
Technical College, Awka, Anambra
State; and Federal Government
College, Nise, Anambra State.
The three schools took the first,
second and third positions
respectively, based on percentile
number of students who made
requisite number of credits.
For the 2014/2015 SSCE/NECO
examinations include; the first
position was Federal Government
College, Nise, Anambra State, with
99.57 per cent; Second position
was Federal Government Girl’s
College, Gwandu, Kebbi State, with
99.14 per cent; and third position
went to Federal Government
College, Robuchi, FCT, Abuja, with
98.72 per cent.
For the 2014/2015 NBC/NTC/
NABTEB the grading had Federal
Science and Technical College,
Yaba, Lagos State with 116
candidates certified; followed by
Federal Science and Technical College, Ijebu
Mushin, Ogun State with 93 candidates
certified; and Federal Science and Technical
College, Awka Anambra State with 74
candidates certified.
The overall best schools for the 2014/2015
WASSCE/WAEC examinations were Federal
Government Girls’ College, Benin, Edo State;
Federal Government Girls’ College, Kazaure,
Jigawa State; and Federal Government College,
Robuchi, FCT, Abuja".


http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/208869-exclusive-100-federal-unity-colleges-ranked-waec-neco-exams.html

So, as you can see, even if we start using Unity schools as the standard of measurement,SE still beats Edo hands down, over all.

That still doesn't cut it because the other exam types, especially NECO, were created by the Northerners dominated Nigerian government to compromise the standards for the Northern origin students who can't compete with their southern counterparts. Most students take only WAEC seriously after which they go and write NECO and the rest reluctantly, half heartedly and perfunctorily since they are aware of the second class nature of it. Do students tender NECO results if they have good WAEC ones? would you advise your child to seek amission with NECO result where he has a good WAEC one? So why include such exams in a serious assessment? Stick to WAEC please. When did OAU and other premier universities of the South start accepting NECO?
So sticking to WAEC the original and uncompromised standards exam written with all competitiveness Edo still tops it with FGGC Benin City.
On the list of top 50 schools it is agreed that Uturu comes second but not first. That shows no Middle East school came first on any list unlike Edo which did in at least one.
Now, when you sum up the positions of all the 8 Edo Schools therein and divided by 8 you get a mean of about 14.70, but a similar calculation for the Middle East states gives you about 30.9 meaning Edo schools present are collectively far nearer to the top than the Middle East schools. Also, three Edo schools came consecutively very near the top but the entire middle East could not record such feat with five whooping states. What else shall I say? The truth speaks for itself.

Honest mistakes? Ahahahahahahahahahah­
ahahahahahahaha........ ! Ahahahahahahahaha....!
Ahahaha hahahahaha........! Ki ki ki ki ki ki ki
ki.......
Do you have any flair for honesty? Rather than
confess your were caught in your track of lies and
poor comprehension ability which I have been
pointing out, you hide under "honest" mistakes!
You should have better been more honest by
terming it a honest lie or come out clean by
accepting poor comprehension as. responsible after
obviously searching the dictionary for the meanings
of "ethics" as used in the context of the link.
Whaaaaaaat?! Biafraudians! You thought I would
not open each and every one of those links and
read between the lines unlike you?

Lol! It was an honest mistake which was admitted, corrected and used to still trump your lies.