KJV:And Sarai Abram's wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and ''gave'' her to her husband Abram to be his wife.


All this just to help the dumb sanchez01 learn

misano:



Just stop please. Going by what Suleman said, David had step brothers and not direct brothers. But reading Psalm 69 -7, David said "I have become a stranger to my brothers , a foreigner to my mother's children." . Take note of this line "MY MOTHER'S CHILDREN" This implies that the woman that gave birth to David also gave birth to David's brothers and not a different woman as explained by Suleman.

Bro, please did Joseph call his other brothers step brothers? Because I don't see any account of that in the bible. The bible recorded that it was his brothers, not step brothers that sold him. And we do know that Rachel had only two sons, Joseph and Benjamin.
Also, when Absalom requested for the presence of his siblings to the meeting he killed Abner, he did not use the word step brothers but brothers.
Also about Jephthah, the bible records he was cast out by his brothers, not step brothers.
so you can see, that the bible does not differentiate between step brothers and brothers.

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Joagbaje:
Apostle was not wrong Rahab the harlot who saved the spies was the great grand mother of David . She Gave birth to Boaz ,boaz gave birth to salmon ,salmon gave birth to David father jessee. And I sure the apostle didn't say it to put David down but rather to glorify God that it doesn't matter your background God can change your story

Mat 1:5 — Mat 1:6
Salmon the father of Boaz, whose mother was Rahab,Boaz the father of Obed, whose mother was Ruth,Obed the father of Jesse,and Jesse the father of King David.

James 2:25
Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?


But if the apostle was talking about the direct mother . I may need to check that out.

Don't mind him o, which great-grandmother??

The Rahab that was a harlot lived during Joshua and Caleb's time when Israel was still looking for the promise land.
Do you know how many years between These two people.
Just cause they have the same name does not mean they are the same person.

The same way there are many Marys and James in the Bible.


sekundosekundo

ismart:
NOT everything is in the bible. The 7 book of moses was removed because of the evil content.

Point of correction, not evil content, just deep Jewish practices that was irrelevant to Christianity

dominusgai:

Bro, please did Joseph call his other brothers step brothers? Because I don't see any account of that in the bible. The bible recorded that it was his brothers, not step brothers that sold him. And we do know that Rachel had only two sons, Joseph and Benjamin.
Also, when Absalom requested for the presence of his siblings to the meeting he killed Abner, he did not use the word step brothers but brothers.
Also about Jephthah, the bible records he was cast out by his brothers, not step brothers.
so you can see, that the bible does not differentiate between step brothers and brothers.

Take note of what David said: Psalm 69:8 "....foreigner to my mother's children." . Take note of this line "MY MOTHER'S CHILDREN", he didn't say another woman's children he said my mother's children.

Implying that the woman that gave birth to him also gave birth to the other brothers. Suleman explanation indicates that the woman that gave to David was a harlot but the woman that gave birth to the other children was not a harlot. All I'm saying is that, the woman that gave birth to David is the same woman that gave birth to the other sons.

Jacksonville:
Nigerians! Don't be too quick to cast your stones. Some hidden truths are known only through revelation. Take it or leave it.

It's normal ponder on this, as it isn't written where David's mum was a "harlot", but this is coming from a man of revelations. Some truths are revealed to those whom God trusts. It's left for the receiver to tell the world or not.


#Mytake

David's mother was no harlot. David considered himself conceived in iniquity because of the interesting circumstances of his birth. Please read his very interesting story by clicking on the link below:

http://www.chabad.org/theJewishWoman/article_cdo/aid/280331/jewish/Nitzevet-Mother-of-David.htm

Yes, David rose above adversity to attain great heights but Apostle Suleiman is not correct to call David's mother a harlot.

Joagbaje:
Apostle was not wrong Rahab the harlot who saved the spies was the great grand mother of David . She Gave birth to Boaz ,boaz gave birth to salmon ,salmon gave birth to David father jessee. And I sure the apostle didn't say it to put David down but rather to glorify God that it doesn't matter your background God can change your story

Mat 1:5 — Mat 1:6
Salmon the father of Boaz, whose mother was Rahab,Boaz the father of Obed, whose mother was Ruth,Obed the father of Jesse,and Jesse the father of King David.

James 2:25
Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?


But if the apostle was talking about the direct mother . I may need to check that out.

God bless u. Naija need people like u of great wisdom not d quick to cast people.

wellmax:
On this, Apostle Sulieman is wrong
Bible says All Have Sinned

And in sin did my mother conceive me. He goes back to the earliest moment of his being, not to traduce his mother, but to acknowledge the deep tap roots of his sin. It is a wicked wresting of Scripture to deny that original sin and natural depravity are here taught.

Why was the Bible silent about his motherhood & why did his father send him to the field while he allowed other sons to be around for Samuel to see them? This is revelation man... David was actually capturing the truth in your quoted Psalm ..

Jacksonville:
Nigerians! Don't be too quick to cast your stones. Some hidden truths are known only through revelation. Take it or leave it.

It's normal ponder on this, as it isn't written where David's mum was a "harlot", but this is coming from a man of revelations. Some truths are revealed to those whom God trusts. It's left for the receiver to tell the world or not.


#Mytake

O my God.I can't believe this is coming from a Christian.that will always be d difference between Christians and Muslims.we do not tolerate any blasphemy to any of the prophets including Jesus.revelations? Revelations that wasn't included in any of the holy books or spoken by the prophets.but God deemed it fit to reveal it to a man who claimed to be the apostle.
So am gonna ask u,what if he said the mother of Jesus was an harlot? Would u have reacted this way?

dominusgai:

These are the kind of idiots am talking about. This website is run by a reputable Israeli scholar.
Do you really believe the bible, to be the only source of Jewish history? If you do, then your stupidity is greater than that of Homer Simpson.
In fact the bible is not an accurate source of Jewish history as it was compiled by the catholics in a period when they wanted to showcase Christianity as the One religion.
They refused to put in the core Israelite books as it supported more of Jewish culture and history.
To get a true account of people of the old testament, please go and study proper Jewish literature like the book of Enoch, The Jewish Torah. The life of moses. Chronicles of Israel's king,

mynd44 lalasticlala Seun

I believe this guy broke rule number. I shouldn't be called an idiot just because I aired my view

dragonking3:
The apostle is right. We all know that David mum is Nitzevet but she was a prostitute that's why David was despite by brothers and his own father.

http://www.chabad.org/theJewishWoman/article_cdo/aid/280331/jewish/Nitzevet-Mother-of-David.htm

How could you have read that article and still arrived at the conclusion that David's mother was a prostitute??

femi4:
please watch the video before your next comment.

Biblically, nothing much was said about her and we have to leave it like that and stop adding to the scripture

You made a point

Joagbaje:


Luke 18:38
And he cried out, “Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me!”

Was Jesus son of David

rahab was d ancestor of david's FATHER...so his father's d harlot here

Jacksonville:
Nigerians! Don't be too quick to cast your stones. Some hidden truths are known only through revelation. Take it or leave it.

It's normal ponder on this, as it isn't written where David's mum was a "harlot", but this is coming from a man of revelations. Some truths are revealed to those whom God trusts. It's left for the receiver to tell the world or not.


#Mytake

Revelations indeed, the bible is d complete revelation from God to man, it is a closed system, not an open one. That was why paul told the Corinthians not to exceed what is written. What apostle did is just an abuse of Gods word...

@jacobjk, God bless u for that post u made. But like I said and its evident at the moment, a lot skipped ur post just because its sooooo long. Whereas therein lies the truth that will educate them in gaining understanding over the subject matter.
I smh at this generation. No wonder the elderly do not see any reason to relinquinch power.

Apostle Suleiman 's faux pas on this matter is the kind of thing that happens when people begin to impose their own views and positions on the Bible in the name of "new revelations".

I just pray that his congregants undertake further study of the Bible for themselves rather than swallowing Pastor's message hook, line and sinker.

Jaideyone:
so I guess prostitution is the only sin then. the mother could have been an idol worshiper and not a prostitute. she could have conceived him in the mist of several other sins not related yo adultery. your logic is flawed

you are entitled to your own opinion bruv just like many bible scholars have theirs too. No one can say exactly what sin it was so the apostle has done no wrong here as you have no basis to prove he is wrong

90% of the people who have made comments don't even know what they are saying. Some don't even know what the mother of David is called. Though apostle Suleiman is totally wrong

well read this: http://www.chabad.org/theJewishWoman/article_cdo/aid/280331/jewish/Nitzevet-Mother-of-David.htm

Prof 2:2
listen to what is wise and try to understand it
God bless you sir for this revelation,more grace more power in the name of Jesus our lord
I STAND WITH APOSTLE JOHNSON SULEMAN
I STAND WITH OFM
I STAND REVELATION
I STAND WITH TRUTH
GOD BLESS YOU SIR MORE AND MORE

Joagbaje:
Apostle was not wrong Rahab the harlot who saved the spies was the great grand mother of David . She Gave birth to Boaz ,boaz gave birth to salmon ,salmon gave birth to David father jessee. And I sure the apostle didn't say it to put David down but rather to glorify God that it doesn't matter your background God can change your story

Mat 1:5 — Mat 1:6
Salmon the father of Boaz, whose mother was Rahab,Boaz the father of Obed, whose mother was Ruth,Obed the father of Jesse,and Jesse the father of King David.

James 2:25
Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?


But if the apostle was talking about the direct mother . I may need to check that out.

God bless you for this, I was actually expecting them to quote you.
the OP and his likes are always looking for one or two thing to drag the men of God down, they would never bring the good part of their messages to the hearing of there followers. why not post the whole message instead of posting that particular part.
like you earlier said, it shows that God can use any body just like He used the harlot to save the spies.
thanks alot

Reptyle:
Apostle Suleiman 's faux pas on this matter is the kind of thing that happens when people begin to impose their own views and positions on the Bible in the name of "new revelations".

I just pray that his congregants undertake further study of the Bible for themselves rather than swallowing Pastor's message hook, line and sinker.

when it comes to men of God Nigerians turn scholars
but if Na Babalawo tell them. make the run naked at midnight for an hour they will do 3 hours

i laff at Christians ignorancy,imagine this statement from the so call book of God,who is the Author of James..unknown so who is giving the person that wrote James a revelation,well i am not surprised i ve read in Deutronomy the acclaimed firth book of MOSES that MOSES died in the book He wrote the age he died and God was the one that bury Moses,imagine Moses writing about his own death,it is also wrote there that ever since Moses died there has not been a prophet like unto Moses

Joagbaje:
Apostle was not wrong Rahab the harlot who saved the spies was the great grand mother of David . She Gave birth to Boaz ,boaz gave birth to salmon ,salmon gave birth to David father jessee. And I sure the apostle didn't say it to put David down but rather to glorify God that it doesn't matter your background God can change your story

Mat 1:5 — Mat 1:6
Salmon the father of Boaz, whose mother was Rahab,Boaz the father of Obed, whose mother was Ruth,Obed the father of Jesse,and Jesse the father of King David.

James 2:25
Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?


But if the apostle was talking about the direct mother . I may need to check that out.

Is david's mother rahab??

apostle suleman is right. king david mother was a harlot..no wonder she wasn't given any mention in the bible

sekundosekundo:



His great grand mother was a harlot so that makes his mother a harlot abi?.

Nitzevet was the mother of David...I think the apostle was refering to her ancentry probably v cause Ruth was a moabisite i stand to be corrected tho

davo90tico:

when it comes to men of God Nigerians turn scholars
but if Na Babalawo tell them. make the run naked at midnight for an hour they will do 3 hours

That is expected. A man of God should hold himself up to extremely high standards.

"Not many [of you] should become teachers [serving in an official teaching capacity], my brothers and sisters, for you know that we [who are teachers] will be judged by a higher standard [because we have assumed greater accountability and more condemnation if we teach incorrectly]." [/b][b](James 3 vs 1 [AMP])

Jacksonville:
Nigerians! Don't be too quick to cast your stones. Some hidden truths are known only through revelation. Take it or leave it.

It's normal ponder on this, as it isn't written where David's mum was a "harlot", but this is coming from a man of revelations. Some truths are revealed to those whom God trusts. It's left for the receiver to tell the world or not.


#Mytake

Are u this gullible?

Jacksonville:
Nigerians! Don't be too quick to cast your stones. Some hidden truths are known only through revelation. Take it or leave it.

It's normal ponder on this, as it isn't written where David's mum was a "harlot", but this is coming from a man of revelations. Some truths are revealed to those whom God trusts. It's left for the receiver to tell the world or not.


#Mytake

So as d man pray or dey sleep na say David mother na akwunna him see?


Chai! I weak for u.

Him don too tidy harlot Naim make am. D thing just dey fall off him memory like grey hair

fashrola:
I'll advise y'all to read this
https://redeeminggod.com/davids-mother-commit-adultery/

Read your Bible deeply and don't follow what some pastors preach

This conjecture is your evidence? Even the author had to have a caveat at the end. Even if David's mother had him outta wedlock that doesn't make her a harlot. One more thing, if this were true, the foundation of our faith, the progeny of Jesus which makes him earn the title 'lion of tribe of Judah' will be under scrutiny.

One thing is sure, only an enemy of christians and Jesus will want this to be so true. This is a frontal attack on our faith, a case of the enemy within.

Jacksonville:
Nigerians! Don't be too quick to cast your stones. Some hidden truths are known only through revelation. Take it or leave it.

It's normal ponder on this, as it isn't written where David's mum was a "harlot", but this is coming from a man of revelations. Some truths are revealed to those whom God trusts. It's left for the receiver to tell the world or not.


#Mytake

You are one of the stupid people who has been carried away by false preaching.

joeace2020:


You people are irredeemable. So since your grandfather was a criminal...It essentially means you are a criminal. Religious fanatism is the gateway to intellectual death!

sincerely irredeemable, if Barack Obama had that type of mindset he would never had been the president of America... people like that are fast to blame the failure of their grandparents for their own failure. May God open their eyes and free them from self imposed limitations