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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by praisekeyzz(m): 9:26am On Apr 25, 2017
So the people reacting knows bible more niyen o abi?? e ma to n ra yin....mtchw "barman! One more trophy jare"
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by johnemeka(m): 9:26am On Apr 25, 2017
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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by johnemeka(m): 9:26am On Apr 25, 2017
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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by sekundosekundo: 9:26am On Apr 25, 2017
Joagbaje:
Apostle was not wrong Rahab the harlot who saved the spies was the great grand mother of David . She Gave birth to Boaz ,boaz gave birth to salmon ,salmon gave birth to David father jessee. And I sure the apostle didn't say it to put David down but rather to glorify God that it doesn't matter your background God can change your story


This is the reason you sat for JAMB 20 times.

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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by Goke7: 9:26am On Apr 25, 2017
Honestly the man is right, let's leave his faults aside, he is just preaching scriptures and they are true.

He himself still has answers to provide though on his case and this sermon has nothing to do with that
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by wellmax(m): 9:26am On Apr 25, 2017
Behold, I was shapen in iniquity, etc. We are not to suppose that David here reflects upon his parents as the medium of transmitting to him the elements of moral evil; and that by the introduction of the doctrine of original sin he intended to extenuate the enormity of his own crimes. On the contrary, we are to regard him as afflicting himself by the humbling consideration that his very nature was fallen, that his transgressions flowed from a heart naturally at enmity with God; that he was not a sinner by accident, but by a depravity of purpose extending to the innermost desires and purposes of the soul; and that there was "a law in his members, warring against the law of his mind, and bringing him into captivity to the law of sin and death" Romans 7:23

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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by Jaideyone(m): 9:27am On Apr 25, 2017
smh we Christians are the only group that can islamise Nigeria. too many conflicting doctrines and beliefs.

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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by seunny4lif(m): 9:27am On Apr 25, 2017
Religion matter again angry angry

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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by holyokoto(m): 9:27am On Apr 25, 2017
Jacksonville:
Nigerians! Don't be too quick to cast your stones. Some hidden truths are known only through revelation. Take it or leave it.

It's normal ponder on this, as it isn't written where David's mum was a "harlot", but this is coming from a man of revelations. Some truths are revealed to those whom God trusts. It's left for the receiver to tell the world or not.


#Mytake


Thats how dumb n**gga like U become gullible, He is now having revelation of what has been documented 2500 years ago. Do you know the Bible Canon at all? Christianity is trash, I regretted ever been born into this trash and I will forever cause who ever form this religion

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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by Elnino4ladies: 9:28am On Apr 25, 2017
This man again?
lol

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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by misterh(m): 9:28am On Apr 25, 2017
Jacksonville:
Nigerians! Don't be too quick to cast your stones. Some hidden truths are known only through revelation. Take it or leave it.

It's normal ponder on this, as it isn't written where David's mum was a "harlot", but this is coming from a man of revelations. Some truths are revealed to those whom God trusts. It's left for the receiver to tell the world or not.


#Mytake
WTF?!?!

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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by tobidipity(m): 9:28am On Apr 25, 2017
Some gullible fools will still come up to defend him

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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by holyokoto(m): 9:28am On Apr 25, 2017
Joagbaje:
Apostle was not wrong Rahab the harlot who saved the spies was the great grand mother of David . She Gave birth to Boaz ,boaz gave birth to salmon ,salmon gave birth to David father jessee. And I sure the apostle didn't say it to put David down but rather to glorify God that it doesn't matter your background God can change your story


hahahahahahaahah grin Rahab gave birth to Boaz? LOL the gap between Joshua and David is 600+ years nonsense

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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by felixomor: 9:29am On Apr 25, 2017
holyokoto:



Thats how dumb n**gga like U become gullible, He is now having revelation of what has been documented 2500 years ago. Do you know the Bible Canon at all? Christianity is trash, I regretted ever been born into this trash and I will forever cause who ever form this religion

You regard it as trash, yet u want to come here and argue what is in the bible,

Nigerian youths!!! I shake my head.
undecided

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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by Unsad(m): 9:29am On Apr 25, 2017
Joagbaje:
Apostle was not wrong Rahab the harlot who saved the spies was the great grand mother of David . She Gave birth to Boaz ,boaz gave birth to salmon ,salmon gave birth to David father jessee. And I sure the apostle didn't say it to put David down but rather to glorify God that it doesn't matter your background God can change your story
Thank you for this!

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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by Jaideyone(m): 9:29am On Apr 25, 2017
Goke7:
Honestly the man is right, let's leave his faults aside, he is just preaching scriptures and they are true.

He himself still has answers to provide though on his case and this sermon has nothing to do with that
he's right? pls show me where it was stated in the bible.
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by newmedia01(m): 9:30am On Apr 25, 2017
people are very fast to criticize ... allowing Muslims to make a mockery of Christianity... Most of you saying trash don't even read your Bible.. The biggest lie says the deep secret are revealed to the sons of God, this Revelation knowledge, not sense knowledge.. The Bible also warns against speaking evil against any man of God. you did not send him. allow the person that sent him to judge him,if he is wrong...
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by fashrola(m): 9:30am On Apr 25, 2017
I'll advise y'all to read this
https://redeeminggod.com/davids-mother-commit-adultery/

Read your Bible deeply and don't follow what some pastors preach
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by bkool7(m): 9:30am On Apr 25, 2017
Jacksonville:
Nigerians! Don't be too quick to cast your stones. Some hidden truths are known only through revelation. Take it or leave it.

It's normal ponder on this, as it isn't written where David's mum was a "harlot", but this is coming from a man of revelations. Some truths are revealed to those whom God trusts. It's left for the receiver to tell the world or not.


#Mytake

Then you need to read this



https://redeeminggod.com/davids-mother-commit-adultery/
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by 0b10010011: 9:30am On Apr 25, 2017
Jacksonville:
Nigerians! Don't be too quick to cast your stones. Some hidden truths are known only through revelation. Take it or leave it.

It's normal ponder on this, as it isn't written where David's mum was a "harlot", but this is coming from a man of revelations. Some truths are revealed to those whom God trusts. It's left for the receiver to tell the world or not.


#Mytake



Confirmed sheeple spotted cool

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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by Elnino4ladies: 9:30am On Apr 25, 2017
Joagbaje:
Apostle was not wrong Rahab the harlot who saved the spies was the great grand mother of David . She Gave birth to Boaz ,boaz gave birth to salmon ,salmon gave birth to David father jessee. And I sure the apostle didn't say it to put David down but rather to glorify God that it doesn't matter your background God can change your story


David father Jesse?

I'm weak
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by wellmax(m): 9:31am On Apr 25, 2017
Goke7:
Honestly the man is right, let's leave his faults aside, he is just preaching scriptures and they are true.

He himself still has answers to provide though on his case and this sermon has nothing to do with that

Scripturally HE IS WRONG.
That teaching is error from the pit of HELL.
BEWARE

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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by Elnino4ladies: 9:31am On Apr 25, 2017
newmedia01:
people are very fast to criticize ... allowing Muslims to make a mockery of Christianity... Most of you saying trash don't even read your Bible.. The biggest lie says the deep secret are revealed to the sons of God, this Revelation knowledge, not sense knowledge.. The Bible also warns against speaking evil against any man of God. you did not send him. allow the person that sent him to judge him,if he is wrong...


Another deluded sheeple

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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by 0b10010011: 9:32am On Apr 25, 2017
newmedia01:
people are very fast to criticize ... allowing Muslims to make a mockery of Christianity... Most of you saying trash don't even read your Bible.. The biggest lie says the deep secret are revealed to the sons of God, this Revelation knowledge, not sense knowledge.. The Bible also warns against speaking evil against any man of God. you did not send him. allow the person that sent him to judge him,if he is wrong...


Biggest Sheeple! Ride on! Son of God that finishes from the back abi?


Ride-on!

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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by bkool7(m): 9:32am On Apr 25, 2017
wellmax:
Behold, I was shapen in iniquity, etc. We are not to suppose that David here reflects upon his parents as the medium of transmitting to him the elements of moral evil; and that by the introduction of the doctrine of original sin he intended to extenuate the enormity of his own crimes. On the contrary, we are to regard him as afflicting himself by the humbling consideration that his very nature was fallen, that his transgressions flowed from a heart naturally at enmity with God; that he was not a sinner by accident, but by a depravity of purpose extending to the innermost desires and purposes of the soul; and that there was "a law in his members, warring against the law of his mind, and bringing him into captivity to the law of sin and death" Romans 7:23


You need to read this


https://redeeminggod.com/davids-mother-commit-adultery/

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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by Jaideyone(m): 9:32am On Apr 25, 2017
Joagbaje:
Apostle was not wrong Rahab the harlot who saved the spies was the great grand mother of David . She Gave birth to Boaz ,boaz gave birth to salmon ,salmon gave birth to David father jessee. And I sure the apostle didn't say it to put David down but rather to glorify God that it doesn't matter your background God can change your story
OK since prostitution is the oldest career and we all must have had a great great great grand mother that spread her legs for the money I guess we are all sons of b!tches. that's your logic. you should go back to school

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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by petra1(m): 9:32am On Apr 25, 2017
Jacksonville:
Nigerians! Don't be too quick to cast your stones. Some hidden truths are known only through revelation. Take it or leave it.

It's normal ponder on this, as it isn't written where David's mum was a "harlot", but this is coming from a man of revelations. Some truths are revealed to those whom God trusts. It's left for the receiver to tell the world or not.


#Mytake

Rehab the harlot was David grandmother

Hebrews 11:31
31 By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace
.
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by Alphamale2017(m): 9:33am On Apr 25, 2017
Joagbaje:
Apostle was not wrong Rahab the harlot who saved the spies was the great grand mother of David . She Gave birth to Boaz ,boaz gave birth to salmon ,salmon gave birth to David father jessee. And I sure the apostle didn't say it to put David down but rather to glorify God that it doesn't matter your background God can change your story
. exactly bro . you have explained it
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by neolboy(m): 9:33am On Apr 25, 2017
Joagbaje:
Apostle was not wrong Rahab the harlot who saved the spies was the great grand mother of David . She Gave birth to Boaz ,boaz gave birth to salmon ,salmon gave birth to David father jessee. And I sure the apostle didn't say it to put David down but rather to glorify God that it doesn't matter your background God can change your story


You are contradicting yourself because that's the generation of David father Jesse and not his mother. Infact no records of David's mother in the bible

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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by Profdammy(m): 9:33am On Apr 25, 2017
David’s Birth

Why was the young David so reviled by his brothers and people?

To understand the hatred directed toward David, we need to investigate the inner workings behind the events, the secret episodes that aren’t recorded in the prophetic books but are alluded to in Midrashim.

David’s father, Yishai, was the grandson of Boaz and Ruth. After several years of marriage to his wife, Nitzevet, and after having raised several virtuous children, Yishai began to entertain personal doubts about his ancestry. True, he was the leading Torah authority of his day, but his grandmother Ruth was a convert from the nation of Moab, as related in the book of Ruth.

During Ruth’s lifetime, many individuals were doubtful about the legitimacy of her marriage to Boaz. The Torah specifically forbids an Israelite to marry a Moabite convert, since this is the nation that cruelly refused the Jewish people passage through their land, or food and drink to purchase, when they wandered in the desert after being freed from Egypt.

Boaz and the sages understood this law—as per the classic interpretation transmitted in the “Oral Torah”—as forbidding intermarriage with converted male Moabites (who were the ones responsible for the cruel conduct), while exempting female Moabite converts. With his marriage to Ruth, Boaz hoped to clarify and publicize this Torah law, which was still unknown to the masses.

Boaz died the night after his marriage with Ruth. Ruth had conceived and subsequently gave birth to their son Oved, the father of Yishai. Some rabble-rousers at the time claimed that Boaz’s death verified that his marriage to Ruth the Moabite had indeed been forbidden.

Time would prove differently. Once Oved (so called because he was a true oved, servant of G‑d), and later Yishai and his offspring, were born, their righteous conduct and prestigious positions proved the legitimacy of their ancestry. It was impossible that men of such caliber could have descended from a forbidden union.

However, later in his life, doubt gripped at Yishai’s heart, gnawing away at the very foundation of his existence. Being the sincere individual that he was, his integrity compelled him to action.

If Yishai’s status was questionable, he was not permitted to remain married to his wife, a veritable Israelite. Disregarding the personal sacrifice, Yishai decided the only solution would be to separate from her, no longer engaging in marital relations. Yishai’s children were aware of this separation.

After a number of years had passed, Yishai longed for a child whose ancestry would be unquestionable. His plan was to engage in relations with his Canaanite maidservant.

He said to her: “I will be freeing you conditionally. If my status as a Jew is legitimate, then you are freed as a proper Jewish convert to marry me. If, however, my status is blemished and I have the legal status of a Moabite convert forbidden to marry an Israelite, I am not giving you your freedom; but as a shifchah k’naanit, a Canaanite maidservant, you may marry a Moabite convert.”

The maidservant was aware of the anguish of her mistress, Nitzevet. She understood her pain in being separated from her husband for so many years. She knew, as well, of Nitzevet’s longing for more children.

The empathetic maidservant secretly approached Nitzevet and informed her of Yishai’s plan, suggesting a bold counterplan.

“Let us learn from your ancestresses and replicate their actions. Switch places with me tonight, just as Leah did with Rachel,” she advised.

With a prayer on her lips that her plan succeed, Nitzevet took the place of her maidservant. That night, Nitzevet conceived. Yishai remained unaware of the switch.

After three months, Nitzevet’s pregnancy became obvious. Incensed, her sons wished to kill their apparently adulterous mother and the “illegitimate” fetus that she carried. Nitzevet, for her part, would not embarrass her husband by revealing the truth of what had occurred. Like her ancestress Tamar, who was prepared to be burned alive rather than embarrass Judah, Nitzevet chose a vow of silence. And like Tamar, Nitzevet would be rewarded for her silence with a child of greatness who would be the forebear of Moshiach.

Unaware of the truth behind his wife’s pregnancy, but having compassion on her, Yishai ordered his sons not to touch her. “Do not kill her! Instead, let the child that will be born be treated as a lowly and despised servant. In this way everyone will realize that his status is questionable and, as an illegitimate child, he will not marry an Israelite.”

From the time of his birth onwards, then, Nitzevet’s son was treated by his brothers as an abominable outcast. Noting the conduct of his brothers, the rest of the community assumed that this youth was a treacherous sinner full of unspeakable guilt.

On the infrequent occasions that Nitzevet’s son would return from the pastures to his home in Beit Lechem (Bethlehem), he was shunned by the townspeople. If something was lost or stolen, he was accused as the natural culprit, and ordered, in the words of the psalm, to “repay what I have not stolen.”

Eventually, the entire lineage of Yishai was questioned, as well as the basis of the original law of the Moabite convert. People claimed that all the positive qualities of Boaz became manifest in Yishai and his illustrious seven sons, while all the negative character traits from Ruth the Moabite clung to this despicable youngest son

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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by wellmax(m): 9:33am On Apr 25, 2017
Joagbaje:
Apostle was not wrong Rahab the harlot who saved the spies was the great grand mother of David . She Gave birth to Boaz ,boaz gave birth to salmon ,salmon gave birth to David father jessee. And I sure the apostle didn't say it to put David down but rather to glorify God that it doesn't matter your background God can change your story


Trash, what then would you say of Mary the mother of Jesus.

Never excuse the error of Sulieman

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