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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by TTLegacy: 11:28am On Apr 25, 2017
Jacksonville:
Nigerians! Don't be too quick to cast your stones. Some hidden truths are known only through revelation. Take it or leave it.

It's normal ponder on this, as it isn't written where David's mum was a "harlot", but this is coming from a man of revelations. Some truths are revealed to those whom God trusts. It's left for the receiver to tell the world or not.
You are a goat.

#Mytake
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by realborn(m): 11:28am On Apr 25, 2017
http://www.chabad.org/theJewishWoman/article_cdo/aid/280331/jewish/Nitzevet-Mother-of-David.htm

I found this article very very insightful on the subject. undecided

Everyone including the Apostle may wish to read for further understanding.

If the content of the article is correct, then Apostle is far from the truth. David's mother is also the mother of his older brothers. The untoward treatment meted to David in his father's house is due to other reasons other than his mother being a supposed "harlot" his father fancied and impregnated without paying dowry. lipsrsealed

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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by obyrich(m): 11:30am On Apr 25, 2017
Jacksonville:
Nigerians! Don't be too quick to cast your stones. Some hidden truths are known only through revelation. Take it or leave it.

It's normal ponder on this, as it isn't written where David's mum was a "harlot", but this is coming from a man of revelations. Some truths are revealed to those whom God trusts. It's left for the receiver to tell the world or not.


#Mytake
Which revelation? I laugh at some you guys gullibility. He claimed David was always fighting because of his wrong foundation abi? He also asserted that his(suleiman) father paid his mother's dowry and as such he has a good foundation. Now is Suleiman not fighting as we speak? From El Rufai to stephanie to bloggers and all? Why the strife in his life and ministry, since he claims to have a better foundation than David?
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by misano(m): 11:33am On Apr 25, 2017
Joagbaje:
Apostle was not wrong Rahab the harlot who saved the spies was the great grand mother of David . She Gave birth to Boaz ,boaz gave birth to salmon ,salmon gave birth to David father jessee. And I sure the apostle didn't say it to put David down but rather to glorify God that it doesn't matter your background God can change your story


That was from David's father' side. I think you should be speaking of David's mother's side. It wasn't stated that David's mother was a harlot. Going by what Suleman said, David had step brothers and not direct brothers. But reading Psalm 69 -8, David said "I have become a stranger to my brothers , a foreigner to my mother's children." . Take note of this line "MY MOTHER'S CHILDREN" This implies that the woman that gave birth to David also gave birth to David's brothers and not a different woman as explained by Suleman.
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by dominusgai(m): 11:34am On Apr 25, 2017
0b10010011:
Suleman is psychological unstable. He has been through a lot and just trying hard to focus. Left to him alone, he will abscond out of the country but trying hard to be firm.


I won't judge him by anything he says now. A confused man can say anything.



Am sure the wife went to cool her head in the UK.
The challenge with you people is that you believe the bible to be the only source of Israelite history. Go read proper Israelite history and you would see that David's mom was actually an harlot.
His father sent him to the bush to guard the sheep in hope that wild animals will kill him.
In Israelite culture, it is the duty of the eldest not youngest son to shepherd the sheep.
It was because of this shame that made him initially remove David's name from the list of sons when the prophet came to him.
He did not believe that the son of an harlot could be king.
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by femi4: 11:35am On Apr 25, 2017
teepain:


Revelation 22:18
"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, if any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book"

With the verse above God had foreclosed the permission to add to the scriptures by any so called Apostle, Pastor, Evangelist or 'man of revelations'. The punishment for such crime is expressly stated in the quoted verse.

CC femi4
That is why we have to be careful in explaining the scripture
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by ismart: 11:35am On Apr 25, 2017
Joagbaje:
Apostle was not wrong Rahab the harlot who saved the spies was the great grand mother of David . She Gave birth to Boaz ,boaz gave birth to salmon ,salmon gave birth to David father jessee. And I sure the apostle didn't say it to put David down but rather to glorify God that it doesn't matter your background God can change your story

Mat 1:5 — Mat 1:6

Salmon the father of Boaz, whose mother was Rahab,Boaz the father of Obed, whose mother was Ruth,Obed the father of Jesse,and Jesse the father of King David.

James 2:25
Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?


But if the apostle was talking about the direct mother . I may need to check that out.

Did you see they hardly quoted you? But they quoted the other guy whose words didn't sound so clear and has some cracks to feast on.

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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by PianoWizard: 11:36am On Apr 25, 2017
@ Sanchez01 if at 17 you cannot use your head to reason logically then I pity for you. I have told you sarah gave hagar to abraham as you have seen in scriptures.
Abraham did not run after sarah begging her to give
her Maid to him. It was sarah that brought hagar to abraham. You said women were bounded by the law and men were free to chose as much wife as they can doesn't that appeal to you that you are dumb.
Abraham could have chosen to marry other women and even take hagar as wife so he could have a child. But he decided to wait for God's promise.


Go and ask your pastor(if at all you have one) whether what Abraham did was adultery. And I pray he is trained enough to give you enlightenment and wife off the cobwebs of ignorance from you.
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by Jaideyone(m): 11:45am On Apr 25, 2017
Goke7:


The apostle himself quoted psalm 51:5. David saying in sin my mother conceived me which has made a lot of bible scholars believe David was a product of an illicit affair which also shows in the way his brothers maltreated him which also happens in our society today.

Am no fan of the Apostle and am one of his heavy critics but on this one, he got the revelation spot on.
so I guess prostitution is the only sin then. the mother could have been an idol worshiper and not a prostitute. she could have conceived him in the mist of several other sins not related yo adultery. your logic is flawed
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by teepain: 11:45am On Apr 25, 2017
femi4:
That is why we have to be careful in explaining the scripture

I completely agree with your submissions and that is why i copied u.
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by PianoWizard: 11:48am On Apr 25, 2017
@ shafiiimran99 well like I said I may agree with you.
I don't really if know Hagar was a legal wife to Abraham so I can't say much about this.
When she decided to contend with sarah,, she was sent away. Even God sided with sarah. I don't think she and her son Ishmael got any from Abraham.
well at least according to the bible.

So really don't know.
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by dominusgai(m): 11:48am On Apr 25, 2017
0b10010011:
Suleman is psychological unstable. He has been through a lot and just trying hard to focus. Left to him alone, he will abscond out of the country but trying hard to be firm.


I won't judge him by anything he says now. A confused man can say anything.



Am sure the wife went to cool her head in the UK.
The challenge with you people is that you believe the history of the Israelites can only be found in the bible. This is so wrong as the bible actually contains less than 20% of Jewish history.
Go througg isrealite history and you would see that David's mother was actually an harlot.
His father sent him to shepherd the sheep in the bush in hopes that he would be killed by wild animals.
in the Israelite culture, it's not the place of the youngest but the eldest sons to shepherd the father's sheep.
It was because of this shame that Jesse purposely neglected to mention him to Samuel until Samuel insisted he had another son.
Jesse could not believe that the son of an Harlot could be crowned king.
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by wellmax(m): 11:49am On Apr 25, 2017
gazilion:

Please always Quote your source! It becomes Plagiarism when you lift comments from other people's write up and present it as yours!!
You lifted your comment from this source -
http://www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/treasury-of-david/psalms-51-5.html
True. Thanks.
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by PianoWizard: 11:51am On Apr 25, 2017
Don't know what is wrong with nairaland. I can't quote and I can't open new pages just showing blank pages.

SEUN.
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by aotlatitude(m): 11:56am On Apr 25, 2017
Joagbaje:
Apostle was not wrong Rahab the harlot who saved the spies was the great grand mother of David . She Gave birth to Boaz ,boaz gave birth to salmon ,salmon gave birth to David father jessee. And I sure the apostle didn't say it to put David down but rather to glorify God that it doesn't matter your background God can change your story

Mat 1:5 — Mat 1:6
Salmon the father of Boaz, whose mother was Rahab,Boaz the father of Obed, whose mother was Ruth,Obed the father of Jesse,and Jesse the father of King David.

James 2:25
Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?


But if the apostle was talking about the direct mother . I may need to check that out.
Bros abeg! Rahab the Harlot is not in the lineage of Jesus Christ. Check KJV Bible, the name written there is RACHAB not RAHAB.
In all the places where Rahab was mentioned in the Bible, "The Harlot" was mentioned, too.
For clarity sake, Rahab the Harlot is not in the lineage of Jesus Christ.
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by 9jaAmerican: 11:56am On Apr 25, 2017
Jacksonville:
Nigerians! Don't be too quick to cast your stones. Some hidden truths are known only through revelation. Take it or leave it.

It's normal ponder on this, as it isn't written where David's mum was a "harlot", but this is coming from a man of revelations. Some truths are revealed to those whom God trusts. It's left for the receiver to tell the world or not.


#Mytake
you are a baastard
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by 2shure: 11:59am On Apr 25, 2017
Sule.
If shes a harlot.
It means ub
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by 2shure: 12:00pm On Apr 25, 2017
Sule.
But it doesnt channge d fact dat u r a male harlot
And pusi fucka
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by bukitt: 12:02pm On Apr 25, 2017
misano:



That was from David's father' side. I think you should be speaking of David's mother's side. It wasn't stated that David's mother was a harlot. Going by what Suleman said, David had step brothers and not direct brothers. But reading Psalm 69 -7, David said "I have become a stranger to my brothers , a foreigner to my mother's children." . Take note of this line "MY MOTHER'S CHILDREN" This implies that the woman that gave birth to David also gave birth to David's brothers and not a different woman as explained by Suleman.



Next time quote d right verse before u come here come dey form Osusu bishop. It's psalm 69 vs 8 n not 7. I hail o
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by jalaalbaba: 12:04pm On Apr 25, 2017
Jacksonville:
Nigerians! Don't be too quick to cast your stones. Some hidden truths are known only through revelation. Take it or leave it.

It's normal ponder on this, as it isn't written where David's mum was a "harlot", but this is coming from a man of revelations. Some truths are revealed to those whom God trusts. It's left for the receiver to tell the world or not.


#Mytake

Can you please use your God given head and stop insulting yourself with this type of shallow thinking. Why will you find excuse for people like this in d name of God.?, why?
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by kpaofame: 12:06pm On Apr 25, 2017
femi4:
He was not presented cos he wasn't built like others. In fact the bible called him a boy. We have to be careful on how we twist the scripture.

Samuel's mission was clear, to select a warrior and not a boy. So Jesse had to exclude him

Guy shift jare...clear mission indeed...so na warrior he come select eventually abi...
Or you have the memo Samuel sent to Jesse to present only his heavily built sons....

for your village the older ones go dey house make last born dey go thick bush dey tend malu....

Jacob, Joseph, Benjamin etc were younger children in their fathers house and they stayed at home in most occasion with the parent while the older ones were the ones rearing the sheep...
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by freethesheeple(m): 12:06pm On Apr 25, 2017
dragonking3:
You are the one who is actually foolish because he is right. Google is your friend and ur brain is meant for use.

https://opentheword.org/2013/08/09/king-davids-big-dark-secret/

i can deduce u are just here to defend him...Have u paid ur tihe??..Ndi ara...Oh its on google but in bible?
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by misano(m): 12:08pm On Apr 25, 2017
Jacksonville:
Nigerians! Don't be too quick to cast your stones. Some hidden truths are known only through revelation. Take it or leave it.

It's normal ponder on this, as it isn't written where David's mum was a "harlot", but this is coming from a man of revelations. Some truths are revealed to those whom God trusts. It's left for the receiver to tell the world or not.


#Mytake


Suleman is 100% wrong. It wasn't stated that David's mother was a harlot. Going by what Suleman said, David had step brothers and not direct brothers. But reading Psalm 69 -8, David said "I have become a stranger to my brothers , a foreigner to my mother's children." . Take note of this line "MY MOTHER'S CHILDREN" This implies that the woman that gave birth to David also gave birth to David's brothers and not a different woman as explained by Suleman.

Also, Suleman said David's father was not legally married to his mother when they had sexual relationship. That's wrong because the Bible made us to understand that David was the youngest and the last child of his father, so how can a last child be born when the father is not legally married to the mother, but the first son was born while legally married to the father.
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by hotobo(m): 12:09pm On Apr 25, 2017
MsJackson:
The aPORNstle suleman vs HOTobo case just end like that?
what does my username has to do with that. People like you don't have better things to do with your time. Just looking trouble
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by Sanchez01: 12:10pm On Apr 25, 2017
PianoWizard:
@ Sanchez01 if at 17 you cannot use your head to reason logically then I pity for you. I have told you sarah gave hagar to abraham as you have seen in scriptures.
Abraham did not run after sarah begging her to give
her Maid to him.
And this cretin believes I'm 17. Again, Sarah did not 'give' Hagar to Abraham. She simply asked him to 'SLEEP' with her. Initially, you said there was no law at the time, now Abraham did not 'beg'. You sure are a bit shallow, my friend.

It was sarah that brought hagar to abraham. You said women were bounded by the law and men were free to chose as much wife as they can doesn't that appeal to you that you are dumb.
I didn't write the Scriptures. It seems Google failed you this time. Now take a read, the LAW gave men the liberty to 'roam' among the women, forbidding them to sleep with other people's wives. In reality, cases of incests, and adultery were greatly committed in the Old Testament and they were equally overlooked at the time. That does not imply that what was committed at the time was not incests and adultery.

Abraham could have chosen to marry other women and even take hagar as wife so he could have a child. But he decided to wait for God's promise.
How did he wait for God's promise? By impregnating Hagar, yeah? 1 Now Sarai, Abram’s wife, had borne him no children. But she had an Egyptian slave named Hagar; 2 so she said to Abram, “The Lord has kept me from having children. Go, sleep with my slave; perhaps I can build a family through her.” Abram agreed to what Sarai said. (Genesis 16:1-4 NIV)
Again I ask, How did Abraham wait on God's Promise

Go and ask your pastor(if at all you have one) whether what Abraham did was adultery. And I pray he is trained enough to give you enlightenment and wife off the cobwebs of ignorance from you.
I'm not really 'my pastor says' kinda Christian. You honestly need to devote time to studying. You sure need to.
Shafiiimran99:
The question is for u. Abraham did not commit adultery because Sarah willingly gave her slave to him to be his wife

To be both of you, it is such a shame that you clearly copy and paste without understanding what you copy. Who determines if a woman is married to man? Despite the fact that Hagar was a slave, what were the items Adam brought forward that confirmed he had moral and societal standings in mating with his wife's slave Don't forget that this same Abraham asked his servant, Eliezer, to look for a wife for Isaac from his nephew's family, and just be Eliezer went on the journey, Abraham asked him to take 'certain things' which signified the bride price paid on Rebekah. Again, what price did Abraham pay over Hagar to warrant sleeping with her?
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by Sanchez01: 12:15pm On Apr 25, 2017
PianoWizard:
@ shafiiimran99 well like I said I may agree with you.
I don't really if know Hagar was a legal wife to Abraham so I can't say much about this.
When she decided to contend with sarah,, she was sent away. Even God sided with sarah. I don't think she and her son Ishmael got any from Abraham.
well at least according to the bible.

So really don't know.
Funny. Hagar was never a wife to Abraham, let alone the debate of whether or not she is legal or illegal. She was a slave who was duly exploited by a desperate couple. My language might be hard but it's the truth. And yes, they never got a single thing, not even an inheritance which Ishmael was due to. I guess this tells you a lot, yeah?
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by misano(m): 12:16pm On Apr 25, 2017
dominusgai:

The challenge with you people is that you believe the bible to be the only source of Israelite history. Go read proper Israelite history and you would see that David's mom was actually an harlot.
His father sent him to the bush to guard the sheep in hope that wild animals will kill him.
In Israelite culture, it is the duty of the eldest not youngest son to shepherd the sheep.
It was because of this shame that made him initially remove David's name from the list of sons when the prophet came to him.
He did not believe that the son of an harlot could be king.


Just stop please. Going by what Suleman said, David had step brothers and not direct brothers. But reading Psalm 69 -8, David said "I have become a stranger to my brothers , a foreigner to my mother's children." . Take note of this line "MY MOTHER'S CHILDREN" This implies that the woman that gave birth to David also gave birth to David's brothers and not a different woman as explained by Suleman.
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by Kosy79(f): 12:18pm On Apr 25, 2017
Joagbaje:
Apostle was not wrong Rahab the harlot who saved the spies was the great grand mother of David . She Gave birth to Boaz ,boaz gave birth to salmon ,salmon gave birth to David father jessee. And I sure the apostle didn't say it to put David down but rather to glorify God that it doesn't matter your background God can change your story

Mat 1:5 — Mat 1:6
Salmon the father of Boaz, whose mother was Rahab,Boaz the father of Obed, whose mother was Ruth,Obed the father of Jesse,and Jesse the father of King David.

James 2:25
Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?


But if the apostle was talking about the direct mother . I may need to check that out.
***High five*** i just wish i can read my bible like u do. I'm proud of u, i love boys that reads the bible and as well put it into practice.
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by otswag(m): 12:19pm On Apr 25, 2017
Jacksonville:
Nigerians! Don't be too quick to cast your stones. Some hidden truths are known only through revelation. Take it or leave it.

It's normal ponder on this, as it isn't written where David's mum was a "harlot", but this is coming from a man of revelations. Some truths are revealed to those whom God trusts. It's left for the receiver to tell the world or not.


#Mytake

Ladies and gentlemen, it's mentalities like this that makes us Nigerians so gullible to deception. How will somebody tell u something that glaringly has no biblical backing yet you still decide to swallow it hook,line and sinker because it is coming from "a man of God"? If he got this information from another source of Jewish documentation, he should state it. Pastors are not DemiGods. They are human beings like me and you. I don't understand why we have made it a taboo to criticize religious leaders on stuff like this
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by dominusgai(m): 12:19pm On Apr 25, 2017
Jaideyone:
where is it written in the bible? any mor0n can make a website and put anything he wants on it
These are the kind of idiots am talking about. This website is run by a reputable Israeli scholar.
Do you really believe the bible, to be the only source of Jewish history? If you do, then your stupidity is greater than that of Homer Simpson.
In fact the bible is not an accurate source of Jewish history as it was compiled by the catholics in a period when they wanted to showcase Christianity as the One religion.
They refused to put in the core Israelite books as it supported more of Jewish culture and history.
To get a true account of people of the old testament, please go and study proper Jewish literature like the book of Enoch, The Jewish Torah. The life of moses. Chronicles of Israel's king,

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Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by PianoWizard: 12:19pm On Apr 25, 2017
sanchez01 even a 17 year old is smarter. You are an ignorant goat who is not ready to learn. Sarah gave abraham and sarah asked let us see .


KJV:And Sarai Abram's wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife.

ESV:So, after Abram had lived ten years in the land of Canaan, Sarai, Abram's wife, took Hagar the Egyptian, her servant, and gave her to Abram her husband as a wife.

NIV:So after Abram had been living in Canaan ten years, Sarai his wife took her Egyptian slave Hagar and gave her to her husband to be his wife.

AMP:So Sarai, Abram’s wife, took Hagar her Egyptian maid, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his [secondary] wife.



those are different translations of genesis 16:3

sarah took hagar to Abraham, she gave hagar to Abraham

Ignorant Goat.
Re: "David's Mother Was A Harlot" - Apostle Suleman. Funmi Iyanda & Nigerians React by donbenie(m): 12:21pm On Apr 25, 2017
Sketchandcraft:
what is this one saying... Gullibility kills faster
He's only being Sarcastic..

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