CandyDiamond:

Yorubas crying like a baby,if you people where like Igbos that was giving N20 to survive with their properties seized and are marginalized now for nearly 50 years now,I wonder by now what yoruba race will look like,only 6 years of Igbo domination you people are still crying about it even after more than 2years that their administration is gone,what a shame

I challenge you to provide evidence of this property seizure. Stop lying. You were given £20 which was the equivalent of 40 pounds sterling Free. I repeat free.so stop the lies that it was in exchange for seized properties. That £20 is worth £300 in today's money and I repeat it was free
You were MARGINALIZED in 1979 and you had Alex Ekwueme as VP and Edwin Ume Ezeoke keep as Speaker HOR IN 1979 9 Years after the war while Awo was in opposition. Who was marginalised. Continue lying and claiming victim

CandyDiamond:

Yorubas crying like a baby,if you people where like Igbos that was giving N20 to survive with their properties seized and are marginalized now for nearly 50 years now,I wonder by now what yoruba race will look like,only 6 years of Igbo domination you people are still crying about it even after more than 2years that their administration is gone,what a shame

yoruba people are not crying. It is your peole who have been bitter since gej lost the election. In every thread, they insult yoruba people by calling them slaves because they did not vote for your "son". I believe the reason why this thread was brought forward is simply to remind you people that yoruba people did not betray anybody and to justify why yoruba people resisted gej in the 2015 election. Besides who has been marginalizing you for the past 50 years?

Jetleeee:
Lwkmd

Progressive01 LiondeLeo Omofunaab Okoyiboz3 ODvanguard

Make una come tchee chomchin

Mehn, i saw afam4eva post where he was happy about the marginalization.. Karma they say is indeed a biitch

Omofunaab2:



Mehn, i saw afam4eva post where he was happy about the marginalization.. Karma they say is indeed a biitch

Don't mind afam4eva. He is a shameless hypocrite who is now biting his bony fingers in regret.

We need to keep bumping this thread lol.

Okoyiboz3:


Don't mind afam4eva. He is a shameless hypocrite who is now biting his bony fingers in regret.

So his fingers are bony? Chai!

Jetleeee:
We need to keep bumping this thread lol.

I'm still coming to this thread, somehow more interested in new ones now.

aribisala0:

There is this Eboe expression that I want you to translate

EWU BE NA AKWA. .?? What does it mean

It is actually "ewu ne ba akwa", meaning Goats Are Crying.

Hahaha

deji15:


It is actually "ewu ne ba akwa", meaning Goats Are Crying.

Hahaha

I see

aribisala0:
I see

Are you saying that is what Biafuro means?

deji15:


It is actually "ewu ne ba akwa", meaning Goats Are Crying.

Hahaha

So who is crying for freedom ands want to run away from the "zoo" now ?

ProWalker:


So who is crying for freedom ands want to run away from the "zoo" now ?

Biafuro.. They can't take it anymore..Hahahahahaha

SMH
After all GEJ did for the SW see ingratitude and bitterness

YORUBA ronu. Yoruba Marginalization during GEJ regime is NOT enough reason to sell the whole South. The middle belt people have suffered at the hands of the fulanis but they still identify with north during elections. What have yorubas gained in this govt to justify the blatant betrayal of the whole south. Recent comments on this thread only confirm what we already know- that yorubas are innately selfish. Because of appointments, yaribas voted evil. Now that you have betrayed the south and have a false romance with the north, where do yorubas stand in current geopolitics. In a short while, Buhari may go and osibanjo sworn in as president but can he hold power without the support of the north and SS/SE. can only the sw sustain him in power. The north would be mad at buharis death and the SS/SE is still hurting. I predict that Osinbanjo's humiliation and fall will take the SW down for the next 50 years. Wait and See.

^^ Your tears are delicious

Realman87:
YORUBA ronu. Yoruba Marginalization during GEJ regime is NOT enough reason to sell the whole South. The middle belt people have suffered at the hands of the fulanis but they still identify with north during elections. What have yorubas gained in this govt to justify the blatant betrayal of the whole south. Recent comments on this thread only confirm what we already know- that yorubas are innately selfish. Because of appointments, yaribas voted evil. Now that you have betrayed the south and have a false romance with the north, where do yorubas stand in current geopolitics. In a short while, Buhari may go and osibanjo sworn in as president but can he hold power without the support of the north and SS/SE. can only the sw sustain him in power. The north would be mad at buharis death and the SS/SE is still hurting. I predict that Osinbanjo's humiliation and fall will take the SW down for the next 50 years. Wait and See.

Shut your dirty mouth!!! Yoruba people did not betray anybody. When jonahan took over, you felt you were on top. Many yoruba people lost their job which were all replaced by the igbo people. You can cry from today till tomorrow, but know this, yoruba people dont feel sorry for you!!!

nku5:
SMH

After all GEJ did for the SW see ingratitude and bitterness

If gej did well for yoruba, our leaders would not have complained of being marginalized.

Realman87:
YORUBA ronu. Yoruba Marginalization during GEJ regime is NOT enough reason to sell the whole South. The middle belt people have suffered at the hands of the fulanis but they still identify with north during elections. What have yorubas gained in this govt to justify the blatant betrayal of the whole south. Recent comments on this thread only confirm what we already know- that yorubas are innately selfish. Because of appointments, yaribas voted evil. Now that you have betrayed the south and have a false romance with the north, where do yorubas stand in current geopolitics. In a short while, Buhari may go and osibanjo sworn in as president but can he hold power without the support of the north and SS/SE. can only the sw sustain him in power. The north would be mad at buharis death and the SS/SE is still hurting. I predict that Osinbanjo's humiliation and fall will take the SW down for the next 50 years. Wait and See.

Betrayed?
Was it a betrayal in 1960 or 1965 or 19 79 or 1983 when the Eboes and Ijaws went into government with the north. Maybe you are too young to know history. Yoruba have never been in political alliance with the north before now.The Eboe on the other hand always have.Yoruba never accused them on those FOUR OCCASIONS of betrayal. If you say the Yoruba made a political error we can talk but if you say betray then I am sorry that is a Very stupid thing to say. ?
In 1979 there were 9 states in the south when Awo contested as President
There were 4 states East of the Niger and 5 to the West. The then Rivers state and Cross River state voted for Shagari NOT ONCE DID I HEAR ABOUT BETRAYAL .Imo and Anambra went with Zik

aribisala0:

Betrayed?
Was it a betrayal in 1960 or 1965 or 19 79 or 1983 when the Eboes and Ijaws went into government with the north. Maybe you are too young to know history. Yoruba have never been in political alliance with the north before now.The Eboe on the other hand always have.Yoruba never accused them on those FOUR OCCASIONS of betrayal. If you say the Yoruba made a political error we can talk but if you say betray then I am sorry that is a Very stupid thing to say. ?
In 1979 there were 9 states in the south when Awo contested as President
There were 4 states East of the Niger and 5 to the West. The then Rivers state and Cross River state voted for Shagari NOT ONCE DID I HEAR ABOUT BETRAYAL .Imo and Anambra went with Zik

Out of the five igbo eastern state, only 1 voted for abiola. In the south-south region, only akwa ibom, edo and calabar voted for abiola. Other ones including the four igbo states namely: enugu, imo, ebonyi, abia and south-south states like rivers, delta which all voted against abiola. So did yoruba cried "southern betrayal"?

deedeedee1:

Out of the five igbo eastern state, only 1 voted for abiola. In the south-south region, only akwa ibom, edo and calabar voted for abiola. Other ones including the four igbo states namely: enugu, imo, ebonyi, abia and south-south states like rivers, delta which all voted against abiola. So did yoruba cried "southern betrayal"?

You have said it all.the Yoruba do not believe any one owes them anything and so will never talk of betrayal .The Eboe have ALWAYS
ganged up with the North.and the Yoruba have always been in opposition without complaint just once they have lost out and are crying like EWU ?SO WHO ARE THE REAL PARASITES.?They are so dependent on national cake

deedeedee1:

Shut your dirty mouth!!! Yoruba people did not betray anybody. When jonahan took over, you felt you were on top. Many yoruba people lost their job which were all replaced by the igbo people. You can cry from today till tomorrow, but know this, yoruba people dont feel sorry for you!!!

Do you people have proof of all these allegations you make or you just pull out stuff from your exterior. Which Yorubas lost which jobs to which Igbo people. Can you provide proof?

aribisala0:
You have

O n gbona felifi


IPOB: The Anatomy Of A Journey Without Map By Churchill Okonkwo


To think that an Independent State of Biafra is in the best interest of Ndigbo in Nigeria is still puzzling to me.
BY CHURCHILL OKONKWOMAY 09, 2017
In a treacherous Nigerian political terrain, embarking on a journey without a map is akin to a ram going to a head-fight without a skull. Even with a map, you still need to know the contours and other geophysical attributes of your domain in order to navigate the challenges you will encounter in the course of the journey. Ndigbo have a saying that, if a child is not well prepared and mature enough to seek what killed his father, what killed his father may kill him, too.

Some of the consequences of embarking on a journey without a map are that your trails will be lined with thorns rather than roses; your vision will be blurred rather than clear, all of which could make your journey endless. In the case of IPOB, the interesting outcome of attempting to navigate the complex Nigerian political terrain without a map was getting stuck, only to be rescued by your uncles you once characterized as “saboteurs”. The first lesson for IPOB: a newborn child does not throw his father up and a boisterous show does not imply knowledge.

Talking about noise, it is an irony that Nnamdi Kanu, who is meant to be Odimegwu Ojukwu reincarnate, landed in the tummy of FKK, who in an attempt to belittle Ndigbo once claimed to have slept with Ojukwu’s wife. What a journey, what an embarrassment. I hope that by now, my IPOB brothers would have admitted that they were heading in the wrong direction after watching the IPOB leader run into the arms of the Yoruba tribe they characterized as “betrayers”. Second lesson: during a famine, you will be forced to eat what you earlier said you disliked.

So, what should you do when you realize that you are facing the wrong direction in the course of a journey? Keep wallowing in the wilderness? Turnaround? Ask for direction? I guess the Chinese proverb “to know the road ahead, you need to ask those who are coming back”, is a good start. Where will IPOB find those that are coming back? In history books, oral and written.

The Pan-Africanist writer and historian, Prof. John Henrik Clarke, wrote that even though history is not everything, it is a starting point. He referred to history as a clock that people use to tell their political and cultural time of day. This history, he stated, is a compass we should use to find ourselves on the map of human geography.

Using a compass to navigate your way to a destination is not a dumb luck. It is paying attention to a wonderful tool of science. If the brains behind IPOP had paid attention to the history of Biafran Civil War or the history of the last two independent countries in Africa, Eretria, and South Sudan, they would have realized the folly in a headless ram initiating a head-fight. As such, they should have started by drawing a map, even if it is a sketch.

Without a clear map, one will certainly not know where he or she is. To think that an Independent State of Biafra is in the best interest of Ndigbo in Nigeria is still puzzling to me. To imagine that an independent country could be realized by going to an International Court of no consequence even to countries that obey laws was an illusion. It is also laughable and an act of lazy analysis to compare the EU or Scottish referendum to the realization of Biafra. Without any political backing, therefore, it is a big joke to be calling for a referendum on social media.

Here is a fact: no matter how long one travels in the wrong direction, getting to the right destination will remain elusive. The navigation to any destination should truly begin in the hearts of the voyager. This is the most important map of all. Where is the heart of Ndigbo? If we generate a heat map of Ndigbo, what will be the spread of our data matrix on the map of Nigeria?

If those behind this journey without map had measured the footprint of Ndigbo in Nigeria, they would have realized that the fastest way to get to the top of the mountain is to climb down. Because more than 60% of the heat map of the heartbeat of Ndigbo in Nigeria are outside the domain of the enclave of Igbo states, any map of our domain should be boundless.

IPOB should make a heat map of Ndigbo in Nigeria and distribute it to all their followers and sympathizers. The intent is for them to stare at the spatial distribution of the heartbeat of our brothers and sisters anytime they get that strange feeling of destroying the “zoo”. By so doing, they will realize that destruction of the “zoo” is like committing suicide.

The struggle to ensure an equitable Nigeria, essential to the vibrancy of Ndigbo should not be about changing the map of Nigeria. Rather, what is needed is mapping a change of the way we assert ourselves in our domains irrespective of whether it is in Lagos or Kano. My duty is to bring Ndigbo out of this lethargy of always seeing themselves as poor victims that are being trampled by every other tribe in Nigeria. Not everyone is trampling on us. We are champs.

This botched journey should be a lesson that an old woman that provokes a fight but is not pushed to the ground, will provoke again. It is hoped that the voyagers have discovered that Biafra is not and should never be all about them. From here, it is hoped that they will learn to be who they are meant to be in the first place - ordinary mortals with no superior powers. When a black ant bites the buttocks, it learns common sense.

Before IPOB, there was MOSSOB. Like Uwazurike, like Nnamdi Kanu? Time will tell. After this distraction from what the focus of Ndigbo should be in Nigeria, there is currently a pause, a space. In that space lies our freedom to choose how to respond. How should Ndigbo respond? Push for restructuring of Nigeria state? Look inwards and develop the Igbo States? Or Both?

I am happy to hear that Ohaneze will attempt to “convince” Nnamdi Kanu of the need to push for a restructuring of Nigeria rather than acting like a turtle that geared up beside a river that swallowed an elephant as if it will fly over it. To succeed, however, Ohaneze should let the experience from IPOB’s journey without map shape their approach in agitating for restructuring.

As the call for restructuring garner momentum, Ohaneze, just like IPOB, should know that some renegades in the zoo that made the most out of the captivity of Nnamdi Kanu, will be key players. They should know that it will take the cooperation of the dissatisfied ethnic nationalities and different interest groups in Nigeria to make headway with restructuring. As such, Ohaneze should be careful in their actions, not to destroy the bridges that will be crucial in crossing the shark infested rivers of a restructuring. A word is enough for the wise.

In the final analysis, the need to have a map before embarking on any checkered political journey in Nigeria, including restructuring is very crucial. The concept of ebule ji isi eje ogu (A ram goes to fight with its head), without a strategy, even with courage, is outdated and folly.

http://saharareporters.com/2017/05/09/ipob-anatomy-journey-without-map-churchill-okonkwo

deedeedee1:

If gej did well for yoruba, our leaders would not have complained of being marginalized.

Between 2011 and 2015 Jonathan appointed Yoruba to head sensitive ministries like Agriculture and Science & Technology among others. The real benefit that SW derived from Jonathan's government were the massive infrastructural projects like the Ilesha dam which has given Osun pipeborne for the first time since 1966. Tribalism is what turned SW leaders against him nothing more

nku5:


Between 2011 and 2015 Jonathan appointed Yoruba to head sensitive ministries like Agriculture and Science & Technology among others. The real benefit that SW derived from Jonathan's government were the massive infrastructural projects like the Ilesha dam which has given Osun pipeborne for the first time since 1966. Tribalism is what turned SW leaders against him nothing more

Yes o sensitive indeed. You know say Yoruba like amala. So Agric ministry go guarantee their amala future

nku5:


Between 2011 and 2015 Jonathan appointed Yoruba to head sensitive ministries like Agriculture and Science & Technology among others. The real benefit that SW derived from Jonathan's government were the massive infrastructural projects like the Ilesha dam which has given Osun pipeborne for the first time since 1966. Tribalism is what turned SW leaders against him nothing more

So how come did he win 2011 election in yorubaland. I guess there was no tribalism then.

deedeedee1:

Out of the five igbo eastern state, only 1 voted for abiola. In the south-south region, only akwa ibom, edo and calabar voted for abiola. Other ones including the four igbo states namely: enugu, imo, ebonyi, abia and south-south states like rivers, delta which all voted against abiola. So did yoruba cried "southern betrayal"?

Please share the source of this information no vex

Afam4eva:

Do you people have proof of all these allegations you make or you just pull out stuff from your exterior. Which Yorubas lost which jobs to which Igbo people. Can you provide proof?

Baba all of these happened in faan