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Re: Nigeria Must Decide What It Wants From The Igbo by nijabazaar: 1:45pm On May 10, 2017
Olabestonic001:



Maybe they'll get it right like Singapore or be worst off like South Sudan. At least, we NEED to let them try out their unique strengths and weaknesses so that we can truly see if they're blackmailing us or if they are right.

One bottle of ORIGIN

The Igbos, which urs truly is, have been clamouring for this. The govt should allo us to experiment ....and if we go the way of South sudan then they(and including all the remaining peoples e.g the SWners, NEners, SSners) should have all the temerity to laff at us & not allow us back.

But if WE GO THE WAY OF SINGAPORE.......

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Re: Nigeria Must Decide What It Wants From The Igbo by edi287: 1:55pm On May 10, 2017
Ikechuj:


PROOF that majority of SS want one Nigeria provide a single referendum from the entire community in SS that votes to be in SS. I don't want Elder or a politician statement. I want a statisticial data, a vote that SS wants one Nigeria.
Likewise do the same with igbo and delta igbo which brought to the conclusion they'll support Nigeria.

Provide a STAT data or vote with verifying names. Nothing else.
For igbo there is currently a vote going on among the igbo, both SS and SE igbo, community in FB to choose whether they support Biafra or Nigeria. A practice referendum the starter called it. I'll be bringin the screenshot of EACH igbo choice in that vote and you tell me whussup.

Anyway, Infact provide one evidence where IPOB called for protesting for Biafra and noone in either SE or SS yeldied their call.
Provide evidence during the late sit day where People in Asaba, Ogwashi uku, Owa, Ibusa and the entire Anioma excluding agbor ignored their call. In addition, provide ONE evidence, one singular evidence that SE ignored their call plus Oyigbo, Etche and Egbema ignore their call.
Each time IPOB protested in the streets of SS which are bayelsa, Akwa Ibom, CR, River, Delta North for the people of the area, provide one singular evidence of the citizens, not army, attacking the IPOB for speaking for them suggesting their disapprove.

grin grin typical of an Afonja. Stay exposing yourself
I suggest READ again. I indicated that I live ABOARD



That rat brain head of yourself also do not know the definition of abpard.

Aboard means not in Africa meaning monkey I don't live in that backwards crap you can west or North.
Why would I live in a boko haram infest land and a skull mining get ritualistic den? Why do you think every igbo live in that savagery you call a country? Most IPOB not even live in your Savage lands you incompetent rats and the ones are are migrating out hence the percentage of igbo looking home to invest. Infact IPOB have been telling y'all to deport them ANY day and drag your Savage brothers out of igboland. There has not been ONE DAY IPOB opposed igbo leaving your Savage lands. I'll take you people more seriously about your claim of one Nigeria when you start DEPORTING the BIAFRA SUPOORTERS out of WASTE AND NORTH like both Massob and IPOB have stated you guys can do? I'll take your claim of claim of Restrucing one Nigeria and improving Nigeria when you start pushing off the people that despise your country and hate your guts. Until then I'll take your people as the laughable joke that behavior for unity due to their inability to stay by themselves over fear of lack of survival.

Anyway, I want my statistics brought the claim. That MOST SE IGBO, SS MINORITIES and DELTA IGBOS will vote to stay with Nigeria like you eluded.


As for your Afonja identity

This claim of Awolowo is ALL that needed to prove your identity plus EVERY COMMENT YOU made on this thread including this one
When I said e bu Ewu ipob, people Che Su abaram wicked...no look at it. Because you and father's hate Awolowo = all Igbos hate Awo. WHY ARE YOU EWU IPOBIANS SO DAFT??
AS FOR YOUR STUPID SURVEY, WHO IS CONDUCTING IT?? YOU THINK I'LL TAKE A SURVEY CONDUCTED AMONGST NDI ATURU IPOB SERIOUSLY. You've said one thing that I agree with - WE NEED A REFERENDUM. I think that's the only thing that will expose you frauds.
Anumpam, WE ARE NOT ARGUING ABOUT IF THE MAJORITY OF SS WANT ONE NIGERIA, WE ARE ARGUING IF THEY WANT TO BE PART OF BIAFRA. Stop deviating EWU IPOB...BRING A LEGIT SURVEY CONDUCTED BY A LEGITIMATE GROUP THAT PROVES ALL IGBOS WANT IPOB AND I SWEAR ON MY MOTHER'S LIFE, I'LL RECORD A LIVE VIDEO CALLING YOU UNCLE AND APOLOGIZING FOR DOUBTING YOU.
TILL THEN, YOU AND YOUR EWU IPOBIANS ARE LOUD CHEST BEATERS
STILL WAITING FOR TRUMP TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU GUYS
STILL WAITING FOR YOUR UNIVERSAL PASSPORT
STILL WAITING FOR ACCEPTABLE PROOF I AM YORUBA!!!!
#truthhurts #fakeigbos #dumbewuipob #Ndiaturuipobians grin grin grin grin

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Re: Nigeria Must Decide What It Wants From The Igbo by edi287: 2:00pm On May 10, 2017
Trolling Ndi Ewu ipob has gotten lame...I'm off. I shouldn't have wasted my time going back and forth with you losers. Call me when Trump acknowledges you guys and you destroy the "zoo called nigeria". #truthhurts #fakeigbos #dumbewuipob #Ndiaturuipobians
Re: Nigeria Must Decide What It Wants From The Igbo by donmalcolm21(m): 2:00pm On May 10, 2017
edi287:

These are the set of deluded Igbos I'm talking about. They're the ones that think they can dish out the criteria of being igbo. Anumpam, like I told your other friend - I am from Imo state...Isu LGA. I don't have to waste my time explaining anything to narrow minded waste men like you.
I'm from Isu LGA in Imo state so which town are you from or



Tipper bu aja ga e gbu gi ta

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Re: Nigeria Must Decide What It Wants From The Igbo by ProWalker: 2:01pm On May 10, 2017
edi287:

When I said e bu Ewu ipob, people Che Su abaram wicked...no look at it. Because you and father's hate Awolowo = all Igbos hate Awo. WHY ARE YOU EWU IPOBIANS SO DAFT??
AS FOR YOUR STUPID SURVEY, WHO IS CONDUCTING IT?? YOU THINK I'LL TAKE A SURVEY CONDUCTED AMONGST NDI ATURU IPOB SERIOUSLY. You've said one thing that I agree with - WE NEED A REFERENDUM. I think that's the only thing that will expose you frauds.
Anumpam, WE ARE NOT ARGUING ABOUT IF THE MAJORITY OF SS WANT ONE NIGERIA, WE ARE ARGUING IF THEY WANT TO BE PART OF BIAFRA. Stop deviating EWU IPOB...BRING A LEGIT SURVEY CONDUCTED BY A LEGITIMATE GROUP THAT PROVES ALL IGBOS WANT IPOB AND I SWEAR ON MY MOTHER'S LIFE, I'LL RECORD A LIVE VIDEO CALLING YOU UNCLE AND APOLOGIZING FOR DOUBTING YOU.
TILL THEN, YOU AND YOUR EWU IPOBIANS ARE LOUD CHEST BEATERS
STILL WAITING FOR TRUMP TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU GUYS
STILL WAITING FOR YOUR UNIVERSAL PASSPORT
STILL WAITING FOR ACCEPTABLE PROOF I AM YORUBA!!!!
#truthhurts #fakeigbos #dumbewuipob #Ndiaturuipobians grin grin grin grin

Sorry to say, but Igbos like you are far in-between and you have for long allowed the ipob societal misfits that abounds in Igboland to determine the narratives coming from that part of Nigeria. Until your type take-over the narratives, most Nigerians will agree all Igbos are in agreement for a separate country as described by Ipob.

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Re: Nigeria Must Decide What It Wants From The Igbo by edi287: 2:02pm On May 10, 2017
donmalcolm21:
I'm from Isu LGA in Imo state so which town are you from or



Tipper bu aja ga e gbu gi ta
...
Re: Nigeria Must Decide What It Wants From The Igbo by donmalcolm21(m): 2:03pm On May 10, 2017
edi287:

Like I said, I'm not explaining anything to waste men like you. I've been to the village only a few times. For you information, I have an uncle who is an eze in one of the places you mentioned.
Eze indeed cheesy angry grin grin



Pray tell us the meaning of eze in your community. You ve bursted your own arse. Amarabae come and read

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Re: Nigeria Must Decide What It Wants From The Igbo by edi287: 2:05pm On May 10, 2017
ProWalker:


Sorry to say, but Igbos like you are far in-between and you have for long allowed the ipob societal misfits that abounds in Igboland to determine the narratives coming from that part of Nigeria. Until your type take-over the narratives, most Nigerians will agree all Igbos are in agreement for a separate country as described by Ipob.
That's why people like igbokwe are speaking up. Truth is many sane igbos have better things to do with their time than to waste it schooling morons like Ikechuj.

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Re: Nigeria Must Decide What It Wants From The Igbo by Curlieweed: 2:06pm On May 10, 2017
kpodosky:


And all that education didn't teach you that there are exceptions and everyone don't follow the same paradigm. [b]How many Igbo meetings have you ever attended abroad? if you have you wld know we hardly agree at all even if, it is slow and alduous. [/b]Hating and attacking everyone who don't support your ideas is foolish. A word of warning;

Ijiji na-enweghi onye ndumodu na-eso
ozu ala n'inyi. "

Guessing by your accessions, you most likely went to an Afonja university where they taught well. Oh that is sarcasm by the way, because you have difficulty with such, I should help

It looks like you're forming your opinions from Nollywood rather than actual experience. Don't believe everything you watch on TV.

If that system of decision making didn't work it would not have survived for millennia. Differing opinions are encouraged but once Oha has arrived at a consensus, dissent is seriously frowned upon.
Re: Nigeria Must Decide What It Wants From The Igbo by Nobody: 2:07pm On May 10, 2017
Olabestonic001:


We've had more comments by Igbos on Marginalization since 2015 ill-fated GEJ's loss than any other ethnic group in Nigeria history! Yes, even my Igbo colleagues are really that narrow in such claims. Even more than the Ijaws who have wells of oils and the likes.
I think they NEED to exit this federation and go and sought themselves out. We can't continue to reside with a tribe that is damned too paranoid in a country they have excelled in. Instead of addressing issues, they'll be there agitating to break-away. Such people are not worthy to be in a multiethnic society. Let them stay on their own why we treat each other as neighbors. They're not culturally used to Complex Systems but narrow ones; all their issues stems from that singular fact.
So, my guy, be happy that we are wanting what you want; unless your Clamor is a cheap blackmailing tool to have your way.
You are the narrow minded one here. Are you anyway justifying the quota system that is prevalent in Nigeria? Are you saying that creating a system where meritocracy reign is evil? Imagine the system that is Nigeria today..... So you mean you are fine with the system that encourages nepotism over merit and qualification. I'm beginning to think you are one of the product of quota system....... shocked I have much to say, but let me keep calm for now.
Re: Nigeria Must Decide What It Wants From The Igbo by edi287: 2:08pm On May 10, 2017
donmalcolm21:
Eze indeed cheesy angry grin grin



Pray tell us the meaning of eze in your community. You ve bursted your own arse. Amarabae come and read
Oh so you don't have an Eze in your village?? Chai Ndi Ewu ipob will kill me ooo
Re: Nigeria Must Decide What It Wants From The Igbo by Nobody: 2:08pm On May 10, 2017
ProWalker:


Trace the trajectory of Nigeria politics from Azikwe/Balewa coalition to 2015 and tell me if the East has not been colluding with the North at any given time.

At the time in reference Awo is the one who craved for a coalition with Balewa albeit secretly but in the open pretended to be with Zik. Zik went for Azikwe/Balewa coalition when he became aware of Awo plots.

But you were talking of opposition politics for 50 years. There was nothing like that abeg. The Yoruba has been in the mainstream all the time. Don't always be in the habit of regurgitating what you were told without proper analysis. How can you be in the mainstream and in opposition at the same time? Chameleonic I would say.

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Re: Nigeria Must Decide What It Wants From The Igbo by donmalcolm21(m): 2:11pm On May 10, 2017
edi287:

Oh so you don't have an Eze in your village?? Chai Ndi Ewu ipob will kill me ooo
i give up on you
Re: Nigeria Must Decide What It Wants From The Igbo by donmalcolm21(m): 2:12pm On May 10, 2017
edi287:

Anumpam, Nnerim doesn't have an eze?? There are no ezes in Igboland?? Jesus you ipob fools are psychos ooo.
mynd44
Re: Nigeria Must Decide What It Wants From The Igbo by ProWalker: 2:22pm On May 10, 2017
jomonic:


At the time in reference Awo is the one who craved for a coalition with Balewa albeit secretly but in the open pretended to be with Zik. Zik went for Azikwe/Balewa coalition when he became aware of the Awo plots.

But you were talking of opposition politics for 50 years. There was nothing like that abeg. The Yoruba has been in the mainstream all the time. Don't always be in the habit of regurgitating what you were told without proper analysis. How can you be in the mainstream and in opposition at the same time? Chameleonic I would say.

Can you supply a link to this your alternative fact?

You colluded with the North to even carve out Midwest from the Old West just to water down the influence of Awolowo on those people, but you ensure you kept the minorities in the East intact..
Your hatred and wicked acts against the Yorubas are well documented and at the appropriate time, the issues will be resolved.

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Re: Nigeria Must Decide What It Wants From The Igbo by Nobody: 2:30pm On May 10, 2017
ProWalker:


Can you supply a link to this your alternative fact?

You colluded with the North to even carve out Midwest from the Old West just to water down the influence of Awolowo on those people, but you ensure you kept the minorities in the East intact..
Your hatred and wicked acts against the Yorubas are well documented and at the appropriate time, the issues will be resolved.

Yes I will supply links. They are available here in Nairaland. Please note that the Igbo do not hate the Yoruba. In the Igbo world view good neighbourliness is part of our culture. Igbos do not have belligerence in their nature. All the cause that the Igbo agitate for in Nigeria are based on principles, devoid of selfishness and the values cut across ethnic frontiers. Look at what the Yoruba man stand for. It is always for their own ethnic group and that is the main problem in Nigeria.

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Re: Nigeria Must Decide What It Wants From The Igbo by ProWalker: 2:40pm On May 10, 2017
jomonic:


Yes I will supply links. They are available here in Nairaland. Please note that the Igbo do not hate the Yoruba. In the Igbo world view good neighbourliness is part of our culture. Igbos do not have belligerence in their nature. All the cause that the Igbo agitate for in Nigeria are based on principles, devoid of selfishness and the values cut across ethnic frontiers. Look at what the Yoruba man stand for. It is always for their own ethnic group and that is the main problem in Nigeria.

You suffer from acute bigotry. I'm done with your type.
Re: Nigeria Must Decide What It Wants From The Igbo by Nobody: 2:48pm On May 10, 2017
ProWalker:


You suffer from acute bigotry. I'm done with your type.

Bigotry is one best fit word to describe the activities that you and your cohorts are well know for in Nigeria. See other words associated with bigotry (prejudice, bias, partiality, partisanship, sectarianism, discrimination, unfairness, injustice etc.). You will sense the truthfulness of what I am saying if your conscience is not completely dead. How else can we describe the activities of the Hausa and Yoruba in Nigeria if you fail to use the word bigotry.

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Re: Nigeria Must Decide What It Wants From The Igbo by pchukwudi: 2:52pm On May 10, 2017
Your arrogance is disheartening.

But how about Yorubas working with the Igbos in pushing to leave?

Your talk is simply full of ignorance. If the MAJORITY of Igbos want out, the few rich ones in Nigeria and elsewhere all over the world can choose to nationalize in their host country.

Jews have more natives in diaspora than they do in Isreal. Does that mean that the quest for the state of Isreal was not the wish of the Global Jewish community? How about the UK? Did the stay voters, who by the way were in their millions, stop the Brexit?

Please talk sense for once or just keep shut for good.

edi287:
Look, if we were to have a referendum in the east, more Igbos will vote to stay...I have no doubt in my mind. Nigeria isn't perfect - truth be told, it is a shithole. But guess what?? Igbo, hausa and Yoruba have had a role to play in it being the shithole it is likewise the few good things about it. Everyone with have a brain knows Nigeria needs fiscal federalism - the Yorubas agree with this...but instead of working with the Yorubas to achieve this, some stupid idiots go ahead and abuse and insult the people who by the way have been hospital to us...is this how you play politics??

Fact of the matter is alot of Igbos have settled and are extremely successful in THE SAME REGIONS THEY CLAIM TO HATE...how the heck does that make sense?? I swear there's a huge chance that over 80 percent of these fools screaming IPOB have at least one relative that is successful and earning a living in "Afonja land".

One of my uncles used to say that we Igbos can be very undiplomatic at times....I never understood what he meant then till I got a bit older. Nairaland is a perfect example of that. Heck someone called me an Afonja because I'm Igbo and don't agree with these ipob morons...that's how deluded some of these fools are.

What Igbos should be doing is trying to work with Yorubas to push for Fiscal federalism. Stop acting all high and mighty. SE is a joke compared to the West. If anyone should be crying for secession, it's them. Fact!
Re: Nigeria Must Decide What It Wants From The Igbo by ProWalker: 2:53pm On May 10, 2017
jomonic:


[s]Bigotry is one best fit word to describe the activities that you and your cohorts are well know for in Nigeria. See other words associated with bigotry (prejudice, bias, partiality, partisanship, sectarianism, discrimination, unfairness, injustice etc.). You will sense the truthfulness of what I am saying if your conscience is not completely dead. How else can we describe the activities of the Hausa and Yoruba in Nigeria if you fail to use the word bigotry[/s].

You are Ibo, so we are not surprised at your terrible mindset.
Still waiting for your link ooooo cheesy
Re: Nigeria Must Decide What It Wants From The Igbo by Nobody: 2:54pm On May 10, 2017
ProWalker:


You are Ibo, so we are not surprised at your terrible mindset.
Still waiting for your link ooooo cheesy

Yes wait. Terrible mindset? No me for sure. I advise you to quit wickedness. See if you can manage to see the perspective of the other side. Let us grow Nigeria into a great nation by enthroning equity; else we separate.
Re: Nigeria Must Decide What It Wants From The Igbo by TheStronghold: 2:56pm On May 10, 2017
deedeedee1:

You see bro, nigeria can never be united. Right from the day this country was created till now. During awolowo time, tribalism was as high as this. It is something that can never end in nigeria. I will not want the future yoruba generation to face all of these wahala. I want them to live with people threy share similarity with. A country where leaders are chosen not with sentiment but competence. I believe it is high time yoruba people push for nigeria separtion. Believe me, we will do far much better than nigeria.

I agree 100%. Most of Nigeria's greatest achievements have been a result of the yoruba. First television network in Africa was established in western region (beating many asian countries) led by Awolowo, free education was led by awolowo, free health care for children was led by awolowo. All of his socialist policies, if gone unobstructed, would've turned a hypothetical yoruba nation into a powerhouse today. With all of those "firsts in Africa" that our region produced, there is no dobut that we wouldn't be a more successful people if we had cut off the dead weight. Not to mention modern yoruba achievement in having the first african to travel around the world solo, yet another "first" among others.

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Re: Nigeria Must Decide What It Wants From The Igbo by TheStronghold: 2:58pm On May 10, 2017
On the topic at hand, in terms of secession from a yoruba perspective, I share the same sentiment with another yoruba who posted earlier, we as a people want all time greatness. Many yoruba people want to be part of a nation that ends up being a powerhouse that can dominate the entire african continent if given the right focus. Yes, we can be great on our own, but there is another level of greatness and influence that comes with having a 175 million strong country. Sweden is a great and beautiful country, but it will not be alongside the United States in the history books of human history. I think we realize that to get to that level as a country, we must go through the bad, to get to the good. Even if that means delaying our own immediate progress as yorubas, for the greater progress of the country of nigeria. I do think we are partly to blame, because we aren't as engaged in leadership in Nigeria as we should be. I do believe if Osinbajo had been the president at the outset, he would've given more attention to the southeast (as he as shown in his role as acting president), and we wouldn't be sitting here having this conversation today. So ultimately I do want nigeria to proceed forward.

However, as previously stated, if there are nigerians tearing the fabric of this country apart to the point that it can't progress as a functioning country, then Yorubas and other nigerians, should come to the conclusion that the country isn't benefiting anyone, while hurting everyone. From this realization, a split should happen as soon as possible. So i'd like to be on the record that if there were to be any secession, the Yoruba should, and would secede as well. We cannot, under those circumstances, continue to put our faith in anyone else other than ourselves. We were great before Nigeria in our empire, we are moderately great within Nigeria, and we'd be great without Nigeria.

In the possibility that it does happen, I look forward to the healthy competition between the igbo and the yoruba nations. grin I really do think the north will quickly get left behind though.

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Re: Nigeria Must Decide What It Wants From The Igbo by uneksoma: 3:02pm On May 10, 2017
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Re: Nigeria Must Decide What It Wants From The Igbo by kingzizzy: 3:03pm On May 10, 2017
HungerBAD:
Azuka Onwuka i greet you.

This is a very intelligent write up.

Once upon a time, even up to 2 weeks ago, i supported that the Ibo's should not be allowed to leave the Union. But, after thinking deeply of it, i am in support that they should be allowed to go away.

I came to this conclusion after the unaccountable arrests of drug carriers from the Eastern part of Nigeria. If they were known as Biafran's, the rest of us law abiding Nigerians will not be embarrassed,harassed and even sometimes be killed by those mistaking all of us, and erroneously terming all of us criminals in the Diaspora.

Moreover, there is absolutely nothing the East contributes into the coffers of Nigeria. The little developments in the East,was done from the monies gotten from the oil in the South-South.

The East gets more from Nigeria,than it contributes to Nigeria as an entity. They are short changing us, and i support they should leave peacefully.

Once upon a time, Texas said it was tired of the United States and they left to form a Country. By themselves, they begged to come back to the United States after a few Years.

Let them get their own Country, and let us see how far they will go. But you guys should not behave like Texas, and start begging to come back to Nigeria.

Nna, I hope most Nigerians will share your sentiments and leave us Igbos to go in peace. Do you know how embarassing it is for me as an Igbo man to know that Gambia is just a country of 2 million people, and my 45 million strong Igbo nation is still stuck inside this Godforsaken country doing "one Nigeria"?

Very embarassing.

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Re: Nigeria Must Decide What It Wants From The Igbo by pchukwudi: 3:16pm On May 10, 2017
Thank you.

This is how sane and free people reason.

I seriously hope that others from your region would emulate you.

If everyone was responding to the Igbos' crave for secession the way you just did, there will be practically zero tribal war on this forum or elswhere in Nigeria.

Thank you again for being reasonable and humane.


TheStronghold:
On the topic at hand, in terms of secession from a yoruba perspective, I share the same sentiment with another yoruba who posted earlier, we as a people want all time greatness. Many yoruba people want to be part of a nation that ends up being a powerhouse that can dominate the entire african continent if given the right focus. Yes, we can be great on our own, but there is another level of greatness and influence that comes with having a 175 million strong country. Sweden is a great and beautiful country, but it will not be alongside the United States in the history books of human history. I think we realize that to get to that level as a country, we must go through the bad, to get to the good. Even if that means delaying our own immediate progress as yorubas, for the greater progress of the country of nigeria. I do think we are partly to blame, because we aren't as engaged in leadership in Nigeria as we should be. I do believe if Osinbajo had been the president at the outset, he would've given more attention to the southeast (as he as shown in his role as acting president), and we wouldn't be sitting here having this conversation today. So ultimately I do want nigeria to proceed forward.

However, as previously stated, if there are nigerians tearing the fabric of this country apart to the point that it can't progress as a functioning country, then Yorubas and other nigerians, should come to the conclusion that the country isn't benefiting anyone, while hurting everyone. From this realization, a split should happen as soon as possible. So i'd like to be on the record that if there were to be any secession, the Yoruba should, and would secede as well. We cannot, under those circumstances, continue to put our faith in anyone else other than ourselves. We were great before Nigeria in our empire, we are moderately great within Nigeria, and we'd be great without Nigeria.

In the possibility that it does happen, I look forward to the healthy competition between the igbo and the yoruba nations. grin I really do think the north will quickly get left behind though.

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Re: Nigeria Must Decide What It Wants From The Igbo by Ukaegbuagbaieni: 3:27pm On May 10, 2017
edi287:
Look, if we were to have a referendum in the east, more Igbos will vote to stay...I have no doubt in my mind. Nigeria isn't perfect - truth be told, it is a shithole. But guess what?? Igbo, hausa and Yoruba have had a role to play in it being the shithole it is likewise the few good things about it. Everyone with have a brain knows Nigeria needs fiscal federalism - the Yorubas agree with this...but instead of working with the Yorubas to achieve this, some stupid idiots go ahead and abuse and insult the people who by the way have been hospital to us...is this how you play politics??

Fact of the matter is alot of Igbos have settled and are extremely successful in THE SAME REGIONS THEY CLAIM TO HATE...how the heck does that make sense?? I swear there's a huge chance that over 80 percent of these fools screaming IPOB have at least one relative that is successful and earning a living in "Afonja land".

One of my uncles used to say that we Igbos can be very undiplomatic at times....I never understood what he meant then till I got a bit older. Nairaland is a perfect example of that. Heck someone called me an Afonja because I'm Igbo and don't agree with these ipob morons...that's how deluded some of these fools are.

What Igbos should be doing is trying to work with Yorubas to push for Fiscal federalism. Stop acting all high and mighty. SE is a joke compared to the West. If anyone should be crying for secession, it's them. Fact!
You can lie to yourself not literate one, why zoo called nigeria are afraid of referedum since the majority lgbo are in support of one nigeria. Nigeria with lies and propaganda cannot stop

Re: Nigeria Must Decide What It Wants From The Igbo by Agumbaa: 3:30pm On May 10, 2017
edi287:

Lmaoooo the truth hurts loser. I'm IGBO and despise you ipob fuckers with a burning passion.

And we IPOB fuckers despise you efulefu and traitors with a burning passion, the hate is mutual, and u know what? We are taking over, even in the interior parts.

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Re: Nigeria Must Decide What It Wants From The Igbo by Nobody: 3:33pm On May 10, 2017
TheStronghold:
On the topic at hand, in terms of secession from a yoruba perspective, I share the same sentiment with another yoruba who posted earlier, we as a people want all time greatness. Many yoruba people want to be part of a nation that ends up being a powerhouse that can dominate the entire african continent if given the right focus. Yes, we can be great on our own, but there is another level of greatness and influence that comes with having a 175 million strong country. Sweden is a great and beautiful country, but it will not be alongside the United States in the history books of human history. I think we realize that to get to that level as a country, we must go through the bad, to get to the good. Even if that means delaying our own immediate progress as yorubas, for the greater progress of the country of nigeria. I do think we are partly to blame, because we aren't as engaged in leadership in Nigeria as we should be. I do believe if Osinbajo had been the president at the outset, he would've given more attention to the southeast (as he as shown in his role as acting president), and we wouldn't be sitting here having this conversation today. So ultimately I do want nigeria to proceed forward.

However, as previously stated, if there are nigerians tearing the fabric of this country apart to the point that it can't progress as a functioning country, then Yorubas and other nigerians, should come to the conclusion that the country isn't benefiting anyone, while hurting everyone. From this realization, a split should happen as soon as possible. So i'd like to be on the record that if there were to be any secession, the Yoruba should, and would secede as well. We cannot, under those circumstances, continue to put our faith in anyone else other than ourselves. We were great before Nigeria in our empire, we are moderately great within Nigeria, and we'd be great without Nigeria.

In the possibility that it does happen, I look forward to the healthy competition between the igbo and the yoruba nations. grin I really do think the north will quickly get left behind though.
May God bless you and your future generation. I wish the rest Yorubas on this forum will speak with such magnitude of wisdom, not acting as if the obvious reality staring them on the face is made-up Holywood script. Nigeria under her current system is designed to fail. If we can restructure the country to represent ethnic composition with resource control, where merit reign supreme fine. But if not, wtf, divide the country.

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Re: Nigeria Must Decide What It Wants From The Igbo by orisa37: 3:54pm On May 10, 2017
nku5:
Nigeria must decide what they want from the Igbo
By Azuka Onwuka

Before August 9, 1965, the Singaporeans were seen as an irritation in Malaysia. Then Singapore was one of the 14 states of Malaysia. Singaporeans were viewed as arrogant, stubborn, and domineering. While the United Malays National Organisation wanted affirmative action or “quota system” for the Malays, the People's Action Party of the Singaporeans insisted that the best thing for the country was a merit-based policy on all issues, so as to bring out the best in the nation and create a spirit of excellence.
This constant disagreements and tensions resulted in racial riots. It got to a point, the Malays could take it no more. So on August 9, 1965 they convened the parliament, with no Singaporean parliamentarian present. At that sitting, the legislators voted unanimously (126 - 0) to expel Singapore from Malaysia.

When the Singaporeans heard that they had been expelled from the nation, at first they were devastated. But they took their fate in the hands and started building a new nation. And indeed, by applying merit and the pursuit of excellence, Singaporeans built a country that moved from Third World to First World in record time, overtaking Malaysia in all ramifications.
Interestingly, despite this sad way of parting, Malaysia and Singapore have remained good neighbours. In spite of the success Singapore has recorded, it has not made Malaysia not to record its own success.

There are many similarities between the story of Singapore and Malaysia and Igbo and Nigeria. The Igbo are not happy with the quota system policy used in the admission into federal schools and federal positions. They want competitiveness in every sector, which will lead to the best being selected, for the sake of excellence.
The Igbo are seen as arrogant, noisy, domineering, greedy, over-ambitious, to mention but a few. Many Nigerians see them as irritants. They get killed frequently, especially in the North, at the least misunderstanding. Sometimes the cause of the provocation is someone from Denmark, Cameroon or another part of Nigeria.
There are many Nigerians who will easily tell you: “We will never allow an Igbo person to rule Nigeria.” There are many who believe that the problem of Nigeria is from the Igbo, and that once the Igbo are done away with, Nigeria’s problems will disappear.
Given this scenario, the Igbo want a true federal system that will make Nigeria look like what it was before 1966, with each state or region taking charge of most of its affairs and moving at its own pace. Sadly, anytime it mentions restructuring or true federalism, there are forces that resist it vehemently and insist that such will not be allowed.

Ironically, despite this view by many Nigerians about the Igbo, anytime any person or group from Igbo land asks that the Igbo be allowed to leave Nigeria to form their own country, the resistance from most Nigerians is fierce. This reaction creates a contradiction. If the Igbo are irritants and troublemakers, why not expel them from Nigeria the way Singaporeans were expelled from Malaysia? But if you see them as valuable and believe they must be part of the Nigerian state, why not treat them as equal partners in the union? What does Nigeria really want from the Igbo?
Recently news broke that the Department of State Services embarked on a recruitment exercise, with 165 recruited from the North-west. The report said that 51 people were recruited from Katsina State alone, the home state of President Muhammadu Buhari and the Director General of Department of State Security, Mr Lawal Daura, while the number of people recruited from the five states of the South-east was 44 and the number recruited from the six states of the South-south was 42.
Compare that with the academic performance of the different zones of Nigeria. The Unified Tertiary Matriculation Education of 2016 produced the following number of applicants from the six zones:
South-east (five states) = 335,883;
South-West (six states) = 320,691;
South-south (six states) = (299,632);
North-central (six states plus the FCT) = 259,846;
North-west (seven states) = 163,240;
North-east (six states) = 96,220;

The six states that produced the highest number of candidates were:
1. Imo – 104,383
2. Delta – 78,854
3. Anambra – 77,694
4. Osun – 72,752
5. Oyo – 72,298
6. Enugu – 69,381

The six states that produced the least number of candidates were:
31. Adamawa – 15,615
32. Jigawa – 12,664
33. Yobe – 10,045
34. Sokoto – 10,006
35. Kebbi – 8,947
36. Zamfara – 5,295

The states that were given a minimum of 130 cut-off mark out of 200 in the 2013 examination into the Unity Schools were:
Anambra – Male (139) Female (139)
Imo – Male (138) Female (138)
Enugu – Male (134) Female (134)
Lagos – Male (133) Female (133)
Delta – Male (131) Female (131)
Ogun – Male (131) Female (131)
Abia – Male (130) Female (130)

For the same examination, the states that were given cut-off marks of less than 50 were:
Borno – Male (45) Female (45)
Jigawa – Male (44) Female (44)
Bauchi – Male (35) Female (35)
Kebbi – Male (9) Female (20)
Sokoto – Male (9) Female (13)
Taraba – Male (3) Female (11)
Yobe – Male (2) Female (27)
Zamfara – Male (4) Female (2)

The six states that scored above 50 percent in the 2015 West African Senior School Certificate of Education were:
Abia (63.94%),
Anambra (61.18%),
Edo (61.05%),
Rivers (55.69%),
and Imo (52.49%).

The states that scored below 13 percent in the same examination were:
Kebbi (12.08%),
Katsina (10.81%),
Gombe (7.41%),
Jigawa (6.37%),
Zamfara (6.23%),
Yobe (4.37%).

These are verifiable results that have remained virtually the same for decades. And they give an idea of the number of candidates that are involved in education from each state and zone as well as their academic performance.

The point of this essay is not that it is only the Igbo that excel in many sectors. Other ethnic groups, especially from the South, also excel. But the focus of this essay is the Igbo. From the attitude of other ethnic groups, it seems that they are comfortable with the status quo. If not, they should not be focusing on the Igbo as their problem.
The call for restructuring of the country has been promoted as the solution to Nigeria’s problem. However, there are strong forces that are hell-bent on ensuring that restructuring of the country never succeeds. They have been erroneously schooled that restructuring will impoverish them.
The danger in this hard line against restructuring is that if restructuring fails, the alternative may not be palatable. Nigeria has moved in a self-destructive path for long. Nigeria has been wallowing in retrogression for long, because some stakeholders are afraid that pulling it out and setting it on the path of progress will cost them their feeding bottle. But nothing lasts forever.

Two weeks ago, the leader of the Indigenous People of Biafra, Mazi Nnamdi Kanu, met his seemingly impossible bail conditions within 48 hours. When the bail conditions were made public, the belief of many was that no serving Senator of the Federal Republic of Nigeria would want to associate with him. But the South-east caucus of the Senate met and quickly chose one of them to stand bail for him. All other conditions were also swiftly met.
If those conditions were given in December 2015, no Nigerian Senator would have wanted to be associated with Kanu. Since his coming into office, Buhari has continued to display a type of croynism and prebendalism that have never been witnessed in Nigeria. And the worst beneficiaries of these are the Igbo. He has been making it clear by his words and actions that the North and the Igbo are not equal partners in the Nigerian project. He has been distributing Nigerian resources and appointments to his kinsmen and region as if they are his personal property. This brazen nepotism has made even the fiercest Igbo critics of Kanu’s call for secession to develop sympathies for Kanu.
Nigerians must decide what they want from the Igbo. It is either they want the Igbo in Nigeria as full citizens or they want them out as non-citizens. As the English say, Nigerians can’t have their cake and eat it!

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The Igbos must LOVE NIGERIA as they love themselves or else they are just unreasonably selfish, greedy, silly and lacking foresight. What's in Nigeria that Igbos, with all their skills, education, smartness and entrepreneurship can't cope if they apply Intellect, patience and humility? They just want to eat their Cake and have it.

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