She thinks I the Op am Igbo begging ND to join Biafra.

reptile1:


Ur ilks are the reason why others are stuck in the Bush. Which ogoni or ijaw man is currently happy with state of things in Nigeria where they dont create wealth but run to abuja every month end to share everything which doesn't translate to better standard of living? Can the ogonis or ijaws fight for equity, justice and fairness all alone against the Nigerian state and win? Abeg swerve.

ahaika23:


There are so many Igbo speaking tribes in Rivers State which include Etche, Ikwerre, Obio/Akpor, Ogba/Egbema/Ndoni, Emuoha, Oyigbo, Bonny, Okirika L.G.A that speak Igbo either in part or in full and it is only natural to include your folks in Biafra afterall it was Nigeria that separated us in the first place. But because of other tribes in the region, it is therefore important to engage every member tribe fully and let each have his pride and right fully so as to make the breakaway succeed.

Bonny and Okrika are ijaws, if you are really an ijaw guy, you should know that.
And the others you mentioned, is it not the same homogenous Igbo country we are preaching?
I am an Asa indigene by the way, my people will have no problem being in an Igbo only country.

Classic. Keep pushing this bro. They may laugh at you, but just keep pushing it. One thing I know about Biafra is that its emergence will kill the urge for secession in all of its compomnent parts. Why? Because any one who ever wishes to seceed will be totally free to do so. But there won't be any need to leave because it will be a totally free economy where individual and collective freedom is enthroned. Folks will be in total control of their own lands.

ahaika23:


There are so many Igbo speaking tribes in Rivers State which include Etche, Ikwerre, Obio/Akpor, Ogba/Egbema/Ndoni, Emuoha, Oyigbo, Bonny, Okirika L.G.A that speak Igbo either in part or in full and it is only natural to include your folks in Biafra afterall it was Nigeria that separated us in the first place. But because of other tribes in the region, it is therefore important to engage every member tribe fully and let each have his pride and right fully so as to make the breakaway succeed.

ahaika23:
Well, that may be true about the over 80% of the area of the SS that was carried along by Ojukwu in the first Biafra but you failed to ask one question, were the people of that region engaged in robust discussion before he went ahead to include us in Biafra. That was not done and that is one of the reason why there is the mistrust among us. It should not be allowed to repeat itself again.

Of course. Ojukwu had the 'Eastern Nigeria consultative forum'. This body had all the chiefs, head of provinces, head of trade unions of the 20 provinces that made up the Eastern Region. It was them that Ojukwu asked what to do when Gowon broke the Aburi agreement. They held a 2 day meeting and gave Ojukwu the mandate to declare the Eastern Region a separate country. Ojukwu declared Biafra 2 days later. Yes, the chiefs, representatives and leaders of the minorities all gave Ojukwu the mandate of Biafra.

They may have later have developed cold feet but they initially all supported Biafra.

This time around, there is no longer any need for that long process. Everyone should prepare for referendum. It is now the people that directly decide. Those who are comfortable with Igbos outside Nigeria should vote accordingly, those who are not comfotable with Igbos should vote that way and carry on with 'one Nigeria'.

This is very important for us Igbos because we do not want anyone to get up tomorow and say the were forced into Biafra. The ethnic groups that vote majority to go will go, while those that vote by a majority to stay will stay

Amarabae:
God bless you.
You need to see the insultive venoms being poured on the Igbos by these minorities because of Ipob.
where is our pride and prestidge? why belittling yourself before these minorities.
They don't want you and hate you even more than hausa/fulani, just that they have not yet to kill due to hate.

A lot of the people who insult you the Igbos online claiming to be from the Niger Delta are from other regions entirely. So what's the fuss about?

ahaika23:


There are so many Igbo speaking tribes in Rivers State which include Etche, Ikwerre, Obio/Akpor, Ogba/Egbema/Ndoni, Emuoha, Oyigbo, Bonny, Okirika L.G.A that speak Igbo either in part or in full and it is only natural to include your folks in Biafra afterall it was Nigeria that separated us in the first place. But because of other tribes in the region, it is therefore important to engage every member tribe fully and let each have his pride and right fully so as to make the breakaway succeed.

That's why i used Igboid. NK has played a great part in the struggle but we need refinement and finesse to be applied to the struggle.


I bowed my heads in Shame when i read the Medicen San Francien report today on how Biafra never deemed it fit to thank them for their efforts during the war.



Ipob need gentlemen to appeal to peoples emotions and win them over

Amarabae:
you guys are so annoying.
Eastern nigeria is gone just like western nigeria(which incl. SW, Delta and Edo).
Why must ijaws, urhobos, ogonis etc join Biafra?
why are you guys desperate.
Why do you people hate hearing anything about An Only Igbo Country?

EVERYONE HERE SHOULD PLEASE IGNORE THIS MUMU. IT'S ONE OF THE FORSAKEN DESCENDANTS OF THE FALLEN DEMON. WE EASILY SEE THROUGH THEIR MUMUISH GAMES.

ahaika23:

A lot of the people who insult you the Igbos online claiming to be from the Niger Delta are from other regions entirely. So what's the fuss about?

you lie. You know that, what about other social media like facebook,twitter etc.
Stop the pretence.

cowardafonja:


EVERYONE HERE SHOULD PLEASE IGNORE THIS MUMU. IT'S ONE OF THE FORSAKEN DESCENDANTS OF THE FALLEN DEMON. WE EASILY SEE THROUGH THEIR MUMUISH GAMES.

mumu? Be civil pls.
Why is the truth paining you like this?

ahaika23:
Well, that may be true about the over 80% of the area of the SS that was carried along by Ojukwu in the first Biafra but you failed to ask one question, were the people of that region engaged in robust discussion before he went ahead to include us in Biafra. That was not done and that is one of the reason why there is the mistrust among us. It should not be allowed to repeat itself again.

While I am vehemently opposed to including any non- Igbo group in Biafra 2.0, your assertion above has to be challenged for lack of historical accuracy.

"Col. Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu, before the declaration of secession, convoked an Eastern Nigerian consultative Assembly to decide on the direction and way forward for the Eastern Region after the 1966/1967 pogrom against Easterners in the north. The assembly debated on many names put forward by delegates and chose Biafra which was put forward by Frank Opigo an Ijaw"

There was no record of dissension along ethnic lines and as such your idea of engaging people before including them in Biafra.

Amarabae:
God bless you.
You need to see the insultive venoms being poured on the Igbos by these minorities because of Ipob.
where is our pride and prestidge? why belittling yourself before these minorities.
They don't want you and hate you even more than hausa/fulani, just that they have not yet to kill due to hate.

Young lady you need to slow down your row!

I live in the Ijaw heartland of Yenagoa. Trust me they're more than happy to have us amongst them. Infact they actually look up to us for leadership. I'm yet to experience this bitterness and bile you're making reference to. You'll be surprised to know that most of those online characters parading themselves as Niger-Deltans are actually hydraulic soup people and their Northern alamajiri wayfarers. You wouldn't know how far they can go in their divide-and-rule tactics just for the singular purpose of maintaining their demonic stranglehold of the resources coming out from that region.

That notwithstanding, I've also had the opportunity of meeting a particular Ijaw man that said he would rather stay in a country with Hausa/Fulani murderers than with Igbo people. These kind of people are actually bitter because of the level of success they see Igbos achieving in their homeland while they have nothing to show for themselves. This group are in the minority though. The rest might not be too pro-Biafra but they are actually not averse to the idea should it materialise.

That is the beauty of a referendum!

kingzizzy:


Of course. Ojukwu had the 'Eastern Nigeria consultative forum'. This body had all the chiefs, head of provinces, head of trade unions of the 20 provinces that made up the Eastern Region. It was them that Ojukwu asked what to do when Gowon broke the Aburi agreement. They held a 2 day meeting and gave Ojukwu the mandate to declare the Eastern Region a separate country. Ojukwu declared Biafra 2 days later. Yes, the chiefs, representatives and leaders of the minorities all gave Ojukwu the mandate of Biafra.

They may have later have developed cold feet but they initially all supported Biafra.

This time around, there is no longer any need for that long process. Everyone should prepare for referendum. It is now the people that directly decide. Those who are comfortable with Igbos outside Nigeria should vote accordingly, those who are not comfotable with Igbos should vote that way and carry on with 'one Nigeria'.

This is very important for us Igbos because we do not want anyone to get up tomorow and say the were forced into Biafra. The ethnic groups that vote majority to go will go, while those that vote by a majority to stay will stay

ahaika23:
She thinks I the Op am Igbo begging ND to join Biafra.

Exactly, and she doesn't know the struggle has gone beyond the Igbo man which can neva be achieved with chunk of the people fighting all alone

DauraDullardo:
Young lady you need to slow down your row!

I live in the Ijaw heartland of Yenagoa. Trust me they're more than happy to have us amongst them. Infact they actually look up to us for leadership. I'm yet to experience this bitterness and bile you're making reference to. You'll be surprised to know that most of those online characters parading themselves as Niger-Deltans are actually hydraulic soup people and their Northern alamajiri wayfarers. You wouldn't know how far they can go in their divide-and-rule tactics just for the singular purpose of maintaining their demonic stranglehold of the resources coming out from that region.

That notwithstanding, I've also had the opportunity of meeting a particular Ijaw man that said he would rather stay in a country with Hausa/Fulani murderers than with Igbo people. These kind of people are actually bitter because of the level of success they see Igbos achieving in their homeland while they have nothing to show for themselves. This group are in the minority though. The rest might not be too pro-Biafra but they are actually not averse to the idea should it materialise.

why are you economical with the truth?
Btw, why are the Igbos not protesting in the same yenegoa?
Dear, Igbo can stand on its own as a country, let the minorities be.

Please listen, the north over 300years ago were different people. They spoke different languages and they had different ideologies. Though not too different but they were not under the same head. Kano people were different from Zaria people, even those in Daura were also different. It was until Usman Dan fodio conquered the communities and gave them a sense of oneness which is the religion Islam. They rallied round through that religion and bowed down to the sultan in sokoto.

What am I trying to say? The ethnic nationalities living around the shores of the river Niger might have different cultures but once upon a time they have met and they have not killed themselves until the whites and later Nigeria came into play. Why? When these people and union came around, they were shrunk within a state where their freedom were reduced to little. It was now a game of survival of the fittest. That was why in the beginning, there was a lot of fight between urhobo/ ijaws, oron, efik and annang people. They was power tussle. If these people were a state of their own and have control of their leadership, they wouldn't have been fighting.

In Biafra, of which I believe is one opportunity if blown out of proportion will give member ethnic group the capacity to forge their path. A path which many of them have forgotten or rather lost. In Biafra, they have the opportunity to sit on the table and say "this is what we want".

In Biafra, they have a lot to gain because the truckload of activities on the sea will be transferred to their shores I.e having what Lagos is enjoying in their backyard. They will have Igbo's paying for import tax and other revenues. They will simply be richer and more people will have access to wealth.

Christianity which is a binding factor in many tribes around the Niger, will in no little way douse many flames of tribals fights that may arise because of its preaching of peace.

In Biafra, you are dealing with 30-40/million Igbo's. In Nigeria, you are dealing with 80million Hausa's. If you are good with chemistry, you will know the difference between the concentration of minorities in Biafra is more relevant or seen than in Nigeria.

Do not kid yourself, Biafra will not be easy but I assure you, it will be better.

I said a lot of people and not everybody. What don't you understand there?

Amarabae:
you lie. You know that, what about other social media like facebook,twitter etc.
Stop the pretence.

I am aware of the convocation of the consultative assemly but my bro, what is in the circles is that the different ethnicity were not engaged in the discussions. Now if some groupd are carried in the process and other groups are not then it has already created room for chaos

Curlieweed:


While I am vehemently opposed to including any non- Igbo group in Biafra 2.0, your assertion above has to be challenged for lack of historical accuracy.

"Col. Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu, before the declaration of secession, convoked an Eastern Nigerian consultative Assembly to decide on the direction and way forward for the Eastern Region after the 1966/1967 pogrom against Easterners in the north. The assembly debated on many names put forward by delegates and chose Biafra which was put forward by Frank Opigo an Ijaw"

There was no record of dissension along ethnic lines and as such your idea of engaging people before including them in Biafra.

This is the real deal. I believe the truth can never be hid for long.

DauraDullardo:
Young lady you need to slow down your row!

I live in the Ijaw heartland of Yenagoa. Trust me they're more than happy to have us amongst them. Infact they actually look up to us for leadership. I'm yet to experience this bitterness and bile you're making reference to. You'll be surprised to know that most of those online characters parading themselves as Niger-Deltans are actually hydraulic soup people and their Northern alamajiri wayfarers. You wouldn't know how far they can go in their divide-and-rule tactics just for the singular purpose of maintaining their demonic stranglehold of the resources coming out from that region.

That notwithstanding, I've also had the opportunity of meeting a particular Ijaw man that said he would rather stay in a country with Hausa/Fulani murderers than with Igbo people. These kind of people are actually bitter because of the level of success they see Igbos achieving in their homeland while they have nothing to show for themselves. This group are in the minority though. The rest might not be too pro-Biafra but they are actually not averse to the idea should it materialise.

cowardafonja:


EVERYONE HERE SHOULD PLEASE IGNORE THIS MUMU. IT'S ONE OF THE FORSAKEN DESCENDANTS OF THE FALLEN DEMON. WE EASILY SEE THROUGH THEIR MUMUISH GAMES.

On the contrary she's not. She's one of us and entitled to her opinion. The discussion here has been civil so far pls let's keep it that way.

Thanks

Develpeast:
Please listen, the north over 300years ago were different people. They spoke different languages and they had different ideologies. Though not too different but they were not under the same head. Kano people were different from Zaria people, even those in Daura were also different. It was until Usman Dan fodio conquered the communities and gave them a sense of oneness which is the religion Islam. They rallied round through that religion and bowed down to the sultan in sokoto.

What am I trying to say? The ethnic nationalities living around the shores of the river Niger might have different cultures but once upon a time they have met and they have not killed themselves until the whites and later Nigeria came into play. Why? When these people and union came around, they were shrunk within a state where their freedom were reduced to little. It was now a game of survival of the fittest. That was why in the beginning, there was a lot of fight between urhobo/ ijaws, oron, efik and annang people. They was power tussle. If these people were a state of their own and have control of their leadership, they wouldn't have been fighting.

In Biafra, of which I believe is one opportunity if blown out of proportion will give member ethnic group the capacity to forge their path. A path which many of them have forgotten or rather lost. In Biafra, they have the opportunity to sit on the table and say "this is what we want".

In Biafra, they have a lot to gain because the truckload of activities on the sea will be transferred to their shores I.e having what Lagos is enjoying in their backyard. They will have Igbo's paying for import tax and other revenues. They will simply be richer and more people will have access to wealth.

Christianity which is a binding factor in many tribes around the Niger, will in no little way douse many flames of tribals fights that may arise because of its preaching of peace.

In Biafra, you are dealing with 30-40/million Igbo's. In Nigeria, you are dealing with 80million Hausa's. If you are good with chemistry, you will know the difference between the concentration of minorities in Biafra is more relevant or seen than in Nigeria.

Do not kid yourself, Biafra will not be easy but I assure you, it will be better.

Biafra is definitely the best bet for the Niger Delta. Infact it is the only bet as it is now and I want those Igbo brethren who think we are against them to rather than build a wall of defense, they should be ready for talks because that day will come when we all will sit and talk.

Chigboboss:

My masters? Respect yourself

You see, this is why I have been advocating for a clean agitation devoid of insults and threats but I was obnoxiously calld a coward and pacifist.

What the mallam said was that we require the majority votes of parliament in order to amend the constitution, he never completely ruled it out regadless of the sensatinal headline. But biko how can we convince the northerners who are the majority to vote in our favour when the Nnamdi Kanu brand of agitation is based on insulting, threatening and blackmailing the Yoruba and Northerners?

We should have employed diplomacy from the onset. I know you might argue that the north would still have not voted in our favour because of their thirst for oil, but the truth is that there would have been significantly less hatred and vengeance from their end compared to what is happening now, and we would have had a much higher chance of even getting the issue to be discussed in the national assembly.

What we need to do now is serious damage control and extend a hand to the north and west and tcatfully keep our grievances aside. This is the Yoruba strategy and it is working for them because even if they don't intend to secede or restructure, they get what they want (look at the new ports, railways etc.) and end up less marginalized if marginalized at all.

You can't get anywhere with those people with this your wrong frame of mind. You're dealing with extremely ultra-conservative feudalists and oligarchs. Negotiations and round-table discussions arent things they understand or relate with. In all honesty I have every reason to see you as a pacifist. The more you continue trying to assuage or pacify them, the more they continue trampling on you... The more they'll continue to see you as a conquered lot. They can NEVER concede anything to you by the reason of negotiations. That is the nature of bullies. It has always been the same since the beginning of time. You can't have your way with a bully until the day you decide to stand up to him.

This Nigerian question is a matter of survival. The survival of the North is desperately hinged on the resources from the South. Buhari said it sometime ago that desert encroachment is a huge challenge for the North. They desperately need the arable grasslands of the South plus the almighty petroleum resources. Asking for a restructuring is akin to severing them from their means of survival. You asking them to die and they can NEVER agree to that. Buhari himself said it's better we all drown in the ocean than to ask them to go their way. I think this should give you an insight into the kind of problem/situation we're dealing with.

Fifty years from now, Nigeria can never be restructured. We'll continue going round in circles until the country collapses .... Most possibly by violence. There's no other way. Quote me fifty years from today!

Arda1000:
when a foundation is not strong you don't need a prophet to tell you it's a matter of time before it collapse, so any sane person should not be against restructuring or against biafrans that do not want it to collapse on their head

The time has come for a drastic change in the country structure whether the North and or West like it or not. We just have to put in the right machinery in place to ensure that Biafra does not go in the way of Nigeria.

Amarabae:
why are you economical with the truth?
Btw, why are the Igbos not protesting in the same yenegoa?
Dear, Igbo can stand on its own as a country, let the minorities be.

Protesting about what and against who?

By the way, all Igbo businesses were on the lockdown yesterday and we control more than 90% of all enterprises here. You can verify for yourself.

And who said an all-Igbo country cannot stand on it's own? If the Ijaw people desire to be a part of the project, who are you to say no? So long as nobody is coerced into the union, we're ok... This isn't the case with the zoo.

Chigboboss:

My masters? Respect yourself

You see, this is why I have been advocating for a clean agitation devoid of insults and threats but I was obnoxiously calld a coward and pacifist.

What the mallam said was that we require the majority votes of parliament in order to amend the constitution, he never completely ruled it out regadless of the sensatinal headline. But biko how can we convince the northerners who are the majority to vote in our favour when the Nnamdi Kanu brand of agitation is based on insulting, threatening and blackmailing the Yoruba and Northerners?

We should have employed diplomacy from the onset. I know you might argue that the north would still have not voted in our favour because of their thirst for oil, but the truth is that there would have been significantly less hatred and vengeance from their end compared to what is happening now, and we would have had a much higher chance of even getting the issue to be discussed in the national assembly.

What we need to do now is serious damage control and extend a hand to the north and west and tcatfully keep our grievances aside. This is the Yoruba strategy and it is working for them because even if they don't intend to secede or restructure, they get what they want (look at the new ports, railways etc.) and end up less marginalized if marginalized at all.

Bro, you need to realize that when you have made up your mind to achieve anything, nothing can stop you. When it is ripe, the North can not hold us bound further. They deliberately skewed the constitution to perpetually make us unable to have the number necessary to change the constitution but I tell you, injustice will not suppress justice forever. If not for how NK had been going about the struggle, it would not have gotten global attention this fast.

I remember when he shouted at the Judge in court and I read some comments suggesting that he should have begged her rather than talk to her that way and what happened finally, he was released. Or do you think he was pitied upon before he was granted bail? Things actually went down and they had no choice but to succumb. I tell you, if you want to beg, you will remain a begger!

ahaika23:


The time has come for a drastic change in the country structure whether the North and or West like it or not. We just have to put in the right machinery in place to ensure that Biafra does not go in the way of Nigeria.

I wish it is that easy, many think restructuring will make the north and West poorer but to me it will help everyone know the value of their God giving natural resources because the current government no ep anyone no more hide and seek

ahaika23:


Biafra is definitely the best bet for the Niger Delta. Infact it is the only bet as it is now and I want those Igbo brethren who think we are against them to rather than build a wall of defense, they should be ready for talks because that day will come when we all will sit and talk.

The people who you argue with here are not the decision making people so they tend to be more emotional and retaliatory when it comes to arguments concerning their people. Its a sign of patriotism.

I know that the southerners will and must come to the table to table their demands which will be debated on before we agree on a particular premise.

The day will soon come.

Candyrain:


On the contrary she's not. She's one of us and entitled to her opinion. The discussion here has been civil so far pls let's keep it that way.

Thanks

Really?

I withdrew my comment then.

She should note, however, that most of the divisive elements are from the "waste". They are gifted liars and they have been lying since independence through their gutter media.

So, when next you see a comment that reads: "we the Niger Delta....", observe it closely because often than not, there is a masked demon behind it. Don't even let the name deceive you. Some afonja now answer Emeka, Obvume etc

cowardafonja:


Really?

I withdrew my comment then.

She should note, however, that most of the divisive elements are from the "waste". They are gifted liars and they have been lying since independence through their gutter media.

So, when next you see a comment that reads: "we the Niger Delta....", observe it closely because often than not, there is a masked demon behind it. Don't even let the name deceive you. Some afonja now answer Emeka, Obvume etc

I quite understand you but she's not one of them

ahaika23:


The time has come for a drastic change in the country structure whether the North and or West like it or not. We just have to put in the right machinery in place to ensure that Biafra does not go in the way of Nigeria.

If your people are interested in Biafra, join now. Help the movement strategise, plan and execute. You don't have to wait until things are done perfectly or in a certain way, because it's never going to be, at least not for now.

The path is thorny, and it's not like those who stand to gain from the status quo will make it easy for the planners to do things right. At the moment what matters now is the end, not the process. The FG will not make it easy for any and everyone to be consulted, you have to follow your heart, and follow the lead.

PointB:


If your people are interested in Biafra, join now. Help the movement strategise, plan and execute. You don't have to wait until things are done perfectly or in a certain way, because it's never going to be, at least not for now.

The path is thorny, and it's not like those who stand to gain from the status quo will make it easy for the planners to do things right. At the moment what matters now is the end, not the process. The FG will not make it easy for any and everyone to be consulted, you have to follow your heart, and follow the lead.

Even a child before he's born takes nine months to develop, how much more a proposed country of over 60 million citizens. The process has begun, we need the architects to workout an action plan path to follow and at the appropriate time take landmark actions. I will do my bit starting from here to unite my people the way the Igbos are united. We shall overcome!

Amarabae:
why are you economical with the truth?
Btw, why are the Igbos not protesting in the same yenegoa?
Dear, Igbo can stand on its own as a country, let the minorities be.

Young lady, when someone adds your name to a group on Feb without sending you a formal invite, are you happy or are you vexed?