fratermathy:



Can you see yourself? Now you want to FORCE Edo into the madness?
I have a reason to believe that you guys have sinister motives in FORCING minorities into your fight. Your motives will be laid bare soon enough. If we could fight Nigeria during the struggle and succeed, IPOB would be a work over for us.

See Joe! U and who dey do jump around inside creek?

Igbos have never done nothing to its neighbors, in all our history of living side by side before Nigeria came and discovered us.

See Urhobo, see Igbo. Side by side, since time immemorial.

manikspears:


The wiki in my post had to do with the tribes carved as Biafra and you can see south south is included.about the number of casualties, I wanted to hear you say more and wasn't arguing. To me be it one or two the fact that people died means a big loss,we are talking about humans life not ants.

You must disabuse your mind of modern day terminologies like south-south etc in understanding Nigeria of the 1960s. What you call south-south today include Edo and Delta states which weren't part of the Eastern Region that seceded as Biafra in 1967.

The map in your wikipedia link only shows Biafra covering up to the modern Bayelsa state. Even then, the creation of 12 states by the Gowon government at the start of the war quickly exposed fissures between the "ala Igbo" Biafrans and the other ethnic groups. The earliest set of supposed saboteurs that were tried and shot at the stakes by the Biafran authorities were minority ethnic people.

kjhova:


You must disabuse your mind of modern day terminologies like south-south etc in understanding Nigeria of the 1960s. What you call south-south today include Edo and Delta states which weren't part of the Eastern Region that seceded as Biafra in 1967.

The map in your wikipedia link only shows Biafra covering up to the modern Bayelsa state. Even then, the creation of 12 states by the Gowon government at the start of the war quickly exposed fissures between the "ala Igbo" Biafrans and the other ethnic groups. The earliest set of supposed saboteurs that were tried and shot at the stakes by the Biafran authorities were minority ethnic people.

Forget about the 1960s regional set up.

Before that, they were erroneously added to the western region.

Urhobo voted predominantly to be removed from western region.

That was wen they created a sub-region called mid-west.

Even that is wrong.

The appropriate regional designation is SS.

It was an Igbo man that put that terminology together for them.

SS, is a distinct region from both the SW and SE.

However, u must acknowledge that Igbos or Igboid are part of the SS region.

Igbo or Igboid were even erroneously part of the Western region and the subsequent mid-western region.

Malawian:

ok, let me ask you, is there any IPOB member or structure on ground in all of Urhoboland?

None that I know of.

kjhova:


You must disabuse your mind of modern day terminologies like south-south etc in understanding Nigeria of the 1960s. What you call south-south today include Edo and Delta states which weren't part of the Eastern Region that seceded as Biafra in 1967.

The map in your wikipedia link only shows Biafra covering up to the modern Bayelsa state. Even then, the creation of 12 states by the Gowon government at the start of the war quickly exposed fissures between the "ala Igbo" Biafrans and the other ethnic groups. The earliest set of supposed saboteurs that were tried and shot at the stakes by the Biafran authorities were minority ethnic people.

Bro if you read my earlier chat with the initial person ,you will find out that you and I are saying the same.the south south was named after the Biafra event.read the link it mentioned the mothern day south south as "used to be part of Biafra ".historically after the biafran war the south south chased the igbos out of there land. If you are interested you can read the conversation from the start.

manikspears:


Bro if you read my earlier chat with the initial person ,you will find out that you and I are saying the same.the south south was named after the Biafra event.read the link it mentioned the mothern day south south as "used to be part of Biafra ".historically after the biafran war the south south chased the igbos out of there land. If you are interested you can read the conversation from the start.

The SS is much closely related to the SE.

That is the region that covers their entire expanse from one end to the other. From Edo to Cross River, Kogi to Benue/Taraba.

Yoruba minority groups are in Benin and Togo alongside Yoruba speakers.

The Yoruba in Nigeria, would like to forget about.

gGGODDd:
Idiotik muthafucka its u nd ur disgraceful tribe no body wants. Apart from d urhobos in delta state other ethnic groups like isoko, ijaw n even d state govnor Arthur Okowa have all denounced ur biafra secession. even d itsekiris u love n trip for have denounced you with so much resentment. Urhobos r friendly pple n fun to be with, errbody knows this Thats y we r well known for producin commedians like "I go die"; social/influential persons like Efe of BBN etc. we r known 4 commedy across d country, we r known to speak d best pidgin english slangs thats y pple luv d way we talk We r full of fun n like my bro u quoted"we only protect whats ours"we dont go abt creatin enemies 4 ourselves. Now ur disgraceful tribe has been given a quit notice to leave northern Nigeria. A humiliation that hav never been melted on any tribe b4. d other 2 major ethnicities (Hausa/Yoruba) hate u Ibos. minor ethnicities still dn't like u:ijaw,itsekiris, isoko. dey all denounced ur biafra with strong resentment especially d urhobos Na we hhate una pass especially me. I HHATE IBOs. ibos currently r d laughing stock of the federation. You want ur country? Ok now leave northern Nigeria n go to biafra U start beggi.ng. its such a shame to b identified as an Ibo. its sucks to bear names like; ikechukwu, obinna,chioma etc. they r now names of d laughing stocks. Its sucks to be U man... I only like fukking ur ibo gals red cunts.

Shatap no one like Urhobos

You guys are the militants and croooks in the delta

Leave story and cry cry cry

I like what he said he likes itsekiris why e pain una

Me sef I actually dislike Urhobos ..

And forever you will be a minority to be absurbed in the new Yoruba nation to come

Hahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

At least you guys can serve as entertainers and comedians

Lazy group of crooks

hammer6:



Forget about the 1960s regional set up.

Before that, they were erroneously added to the western region.

Urhobo voted predominantly to be removed from western region.

That was wen they created a sub-region called mid-west.

Even that is wrong.

The appropriate regional designation is SS.

It was an Igbo man that put that terminology together for them.

SS, is a distinct region from both the SW and SE.

However, u must acknowledge that Igbos or Igboid are part of the SS region.

Igbo or Igboid were even erroneously part of the Western region and subsequent mid-western region.

Your points are valid but what you miss is that you cannot build the future by disregarding the past. It will therefore be a mortal error to ignore the 1960s.

This said, also bare in mind that the colonial provinces and regions were not designed by the British as ethnic enclaves but rather for colonial administrative convenience.

There was no referendum in which Urhobos voted to leave the Western Region as you wrongly claimed, unless you will show us evidence of this. The Balewa government took the political decision to carve out the Midwest from the West as it suited their pursuit of weakening Awolowo and the Action Group party. It was not out of care for any minority group.

So while you guys carry on with the interesting arguments about the future of Nigeria and her ethnicities, I will continue to provide the proper historical anecdotes to guide you all.

kjhova:


Your points are valid but what you miss is that you cannot build the future by disregarding the past. It will therefore be a mortal error to ignore the 1960s.

This said, also bare in mind that the colonial provinces and regions were not designed by the British as ethnic enclaves but rather for colonial administrative convenience.

There was no referendum in which Urhobos voted to leave the Western Region as you wrongly claimed, unless you will show us evidence of this. The Balewa government took the political decision to carve out the Midwest from the West as it suited their pursuit of weakening Awolowo and the Action Group party. It was not out of care for any minority group.

So while you guys carry on with the interesting arguments about the future of Nigeria and her ethnicities, I will continue to provide the proper historical anecdotes to guide you all.

Funny enough i have the evidence right here but cannot be bothered to retrieve it.

How can a people forget their fellow yoruba speaker becos of border? Even if u forget the minorities such a Dahomey and Ewe, u are not suppose to forget ur fellow Yoruba speakers. haba!

manikspears:


Bro if you read my earlier chat with the initial person ,you will find out that you and I are saying the same.the south south was named after the Biafra event.read the link it mentioned the mothern day south south as "used to be part of Biafra ".historically after the biafran war the south south chased the igbos out of there land. If you are interested you can read the conversation from the start.

I have read a few of your comments and I am still clarifying your errors. Don't pin all of your argument on wikipedia as it is not a scholarly project but rather a gathering of opinions just like NL.

Modern day "south-south" include Edo and Delta states which were never part of the Eastern Region, not to even mention Biafra. Biafra did invade these areas in the early period of the war and occupied it for a few weeks before they were beaten back by the Nigerian Army.

Before Ojukwu's declaration, there had never been a country, territory or kingdom named Biafra or any resembling name of such type. Ojukwu and the Eastern Assembly only ascribed that name to their newly declared country just like Benin Republic took up their own name. The precolonial European visitors described various coasts and estuaries of the African continent as they deem. they named the Accra to Escravos sheet as the Bight of Benin and then on to Malabo as the Bight of Biafra. Both bights were also arbitrarily included in the gulf of guinea which is the stretch of coastal lands from the Gambia river all the way to the Congo delta!

So just as the Dahomey dominated newly independent francophone country chose to adopt Benin as their name from the bight of Benin, so Ojukwu did by adopting Biafra from the bight of Biafra. So yes, the modern day south-south is situated in this historical context and no, none of its territory had ever been part of a precolonial Igbo consciousness.

These are historical facts and should not be countered by wishes.

fratermathy:


None that I know of.

so, if IPOB says that Cameroon is part of BIAFRA, all cameroonians will start jumping up and down like you are doing?

bantudra:


itsekiris like igbos?..

guy,you must be high on something...

you may like them,but i dont think they like you...urhobos and itsekiris were once a family before we divided...

thinking the itsekiris will abandon their past relationship with urhobos and join igbos is foolishness...!

Shatap you and that uchihaitaci Igbo are the same ...
.lazy militant crooks and drug dealers

I know that most niger delta people say urhobo are bad and me hate then too cos they all Igbo

Abeg another niger delta people here tell us how urhobo are

Besides una dey use vex talk matter for here wey pass una
.you hate urhobo you hate igbo
.me hate all of una oya divide the country sharply because me no wan dey with urhobo or Igbo

Rubbish people

Mbediogu:


I will not tell you what urobo (urhobo) means in my language, that will cost you money. From time immemorial, even the true Edos have regarded you as fringe elements and slaves. A dishonest slave committed treason and ran away to the Bush to escape execution by his Edo king. That is your recorded history. Today, the runaway slave Usobo is problem to his benevolent hosts- the great Itshekiri and Ijaws, and even to the rest of Nigeria. Ibori, an ex con is the best you can present to the world. Shameless.

You should be ashamed of your slave Igbo tribe first for loosing political relevance in Nigeria! A whole 3rd largest ethnic group in Nigeria has been reduced to minority status and they have no idea of how to rescue themselves from such pitiable situation. What a shame! Igbo is such a disorganized tribe. They have been agitating for Biafra and we Nger Deltans told them go to your Biafra alone they said no! Can't you Igbos stand on your own? Must you attach yourselves to us? Is it not even a shame on you to be attaching yourselves to minorities as if you are babies? The other day, Arewa youths told you vacate the North to your Igboland and start your Biafra country but you Igbos were afraid and started visiting Northern leaders to beg. Without shame, you were insisting Northerners should organise referendum for you first! How? Are they your fathers? Are Northerners your lords and masters that you have to get their approval before leaving? What a slave mentality! Are you both [Ndigbo and Arewa] not suppose to be equal stakeholders in the Nigerian Project? Are you not ashamed waiting for your fellow citizens [Arewa] whom you often tagged illiterates to give you approval before establishing your own country? Cowards! The only thing you know is to chest-beat making noise up and down shouting Biafra without action! You think freedom is given on platter of gold, you day-dreamers?

hammer6:


Funny enough i have the evidence right here but cannot be bothered to retrieve it.

How can a people forget their fellow yoruba speaker becos of border? Even if u forget the minorities such a Dahomey and Ewe, u are not suppose to forget ur fellow Yoruba speakers. haba!

I will have been happy to see this evidence of yours. Had you bordered to retrieve it, I assure you that you would have eagerly trashed it after we had passed it through rigorous historical factual test.

Now you mention Yoruba. I am not sure what to say to that as I believe that this discuss is about Biafra and the Urhobo declaration. Yorubas have their very many issues and I believe that when any of these is brought here for honest discussion, we all can chip in our bit as we are doing on this topic.

gGGODDd:
Idiotik muthafucka its u nd ur disgraceful tribe no body wants. Apart from d urhobos in delta state other ethnic groups like isoko, ijaw n even d state govnor Arthur Okowa have all denounced ur biafra secession. even d itsekiris u love n trip for have denounced you with so much resentment. Urhobos r friendly pple n fun to be with, errbody knows this Thats y we r well known for producin commedians like "I go die"; social/influential persons like Efe of BBN etc. we r known 4 commedy across d country, we r known to speak d best pidgin english slangs thats y pple luv d way we talk We r full of fun n like my bro u quoted"we only protect whats ours"we dont go abt creatin enemies 4 ourselves. Now ur disgraceful tribe has been given a quit notice to leave northern Nigeria. A humiliation that hav never been melted on any tribe b4. d other 2 major ethnicities (Hausa/Yoruba) hate u Ibos. minor ethnicities still dn't like u:ijaw,itsekiris, isoko. dey all denounced ur biafra with strong resentment especially d urhobos Na we hhate una pass especially me. I HHATE IBOs. ibos currently r d laughing stock of the federation. You want ur country? Ok now leave northern Nigeria n go to biafra U start beggi.ng. its such a shame to b identified as an Ibo. its sucks to bear names like; ikechukwu, obinna,chioma etc. they r now names of d laughing stocks. Its sucks to be U man... I only like fukking ur ibo gals red cunts.

If una get the best pidgin where do Edo pidgin start from na ?

You guys are a tiny minority while Benin is the oldest kingdom in Africa

You dey here dey brag
.
Mschewwwwww

laudate:

Ok, but kindly note that one of the things that worked against the old Biafra from within, was the same lack of tolerance for dissenting opinions. It didn't matter if those views were right, or wrong. Many people were tagged as 'saboteurs' for no reason & jailed, or even executed. The same Northerners & Yorubas you see, often disagree among themselves, but they hold internal consultations far & wide among their people & try to persuade everyone, to embark on a particular course of action, jointly. There is mutual respect, even when they disagree with each other. All views are taken on board, debated and analysed, before being accepted.

See Fayose & FFK for instance. Their views do not represent the views of the larger majority within their own major ethnic group, but they are being ignored by the larger key players in their tribe like Tinubu & co., because they recognise everyone is free to hold his own opinion. The day the chips are down they will be forced to bear the consequences, on their own.

Is IPOB like that? No, they threaten others and insult them, simply because they hold a divergent view. They fly their propaganda kite, and believe everyone should fall in line behind it. Anyone who disagrees with them, is seen as an enemy. Is that the way to win over adherents to a cause? Anyway, I respect your views, even if I don't agree with them. Peace.

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stop peddling false info here who are this "many people" that were jailed and executed?

when tinubu was facing challenges with the Fulani Mafia, didn't you see FFK and Fayose and every other Yoruba who has been against Tinubu and his APC all rally behind him to show support despite not buying into his ideologies? these are people who have been insulting each other rallying around Tinubu just because he is Yoruba. but you who claim to be igbo would rather throw your own people under the bus just to please the people whose only understanding of the term one Nigeria is unrestricted access to oil and power. smh.

and where did you see the ipob threatening and insulting people? is it the ipob that are threatening the Igbos with war and bloodshed? is it the ipob that gave the Igbos in the North a quit notice? or is it the ipob that label all the Igbos Igbos, OSU and Igbos?
when NK was addressing some Northerners during one of his many court appearance did you see him insult them?

it doesn't matter if you agree to what I am saying or not, fact is fact.
I really laugh at you people sha... I really do. you can keep talking bad about the ipob people all to the delight of those people, but when the chips are down everyone will answer his/her Papa name. You can ask the Azikiwes, the Ironsis the saro wiwas how far.

I'm not ipob but I never talk ill of them because they're Igbos. I mind you, at least more than 90%of Igbos want to go there way.

Malawian:
I am not here to argue to with both of you - Laudate and Frathemathy, i am only here to learn as much as i can about the mental make up of your people. I dont even know the road leading to urhoboland sef.

and we dont want you to even know the road to urhoboland sef...

get lost!!!!..

i am not that nice like fratermathy...

you will have to deal with urhobos like me too in your useless biafra,not only fratermathy...!!..

osigiepurr:
Infact, i am weeping for you right because i cannot be wasting my time with kid that cannot recite his/her national anthem.

It's a clear evidence that i was really talking to a dummy that can read but would never understand. What do you know about Lord Luggard?

Since you were yet to be born around 1914, i think you should go back to your grandparents to know how Nnamdi Azikiwe and other igbo elites lobbied to be part of Southern Protectorate before Luggard was able to amalgamate the North and South together.

False social media crusades will only accumulate more hatreds for the Igbo people from other minor and major ethnic groups. Majority of the jobless Igbo youths will only cause more harms to the Igbo nation by tarnishing their ethnicity due to arrogance and fallacy of ignorantio ellency.

You are weeping for me? You that Lugard named after a common River is weeping foe me? The country you are claiming as your own was created a British man. The name you are answering was created by a British woman. You using the product of people not even indigenous to Africa and you are crying for me? All you know is that you were born a Nigerian and thats all that matters.

Zik lobbied to be part of the Southern protectorate? Are you sure you finished secondary school? Zik that was just 10 years old when Lugard created Nigeria in 1914? Chei!

gartamanta:


You are weeping for me? You that Lugard named after a common River is weeping foe me? The country you are claiming as your own was created a British man. The name you are answering was created by a British woman. You using the product of people not even indigenous to Africa and you are crying for me? All you know is that you were born a Nigerian and thats all that matters.

Zik lobbied to be part of the Southern protectorate? Are you sure you finished secondary school? Zik that was just 10 years old when Lugard created Nigeria in 1914? Chei!

luggard is a dead cvck svcker...!!!...can we move on as nigerians now or not??....

what is this luggard blabla all about sef?...luggard is dead and buried....bye bye.....

we want to make troubles for ourselfs because of a dead cvck svcker

kjhova:


I have read a few of your comments and I am still clarifying your errors. Don't pin all of your argument on wikipedia as it is not a scholarly project but rather a gathering of opinions just like NL.

Modern day "south-south" include Edo and Delta states which were never part of the Eastern Region, not to even mention Biafra. Biafra did invade these areas in the early period of the war and occupied it for a few weeks before they were beaten back by the Nigerian Army.

Before Ojukwu's declaration, there had never been a country, territory or kingdom named Biafra or any resembling name of such type. Ojukwu and the Eastern Assembly only ascribed that name to their newly declared country just like Benin Republic took up their own name. The precolonial European visitors described various coasts and estuaries of the African continent as they deem. they named the Accra to Escravos sheet as the Bight of Benin and then on to Malabo as the Bight of Biafra. Both bights were also arbitrarily included in the gulf of guinea which is the stretch of coastal lands from the Gambia river all the way to the Congo delta!

So just as the Dahomey dominated newly independent francophone country chose to adopt Benin as their name from the bight of Benin, so Ojukwu did by adopting Biafra from the bight of Biafra. So yes, the modern day south-south is situated in this historical context and no, none of its territory had ever been part of a precolonial Igbo consciousness.

These are historical facts and should not be countered by wishes.

Oga calm down,I understand what you refer to as my error, but I never said delta started Biafra with the south east even though at a point in time their land became Biafra.at least when you defeat a kingdom you mark your territory.and I didn't hear myself talking about how ojukwu and co came about Biafra? Maybe you should read it again this time after with cold water

bantudra:
and we dont want you to even know the road to urhoboland sef...

get lost!!!!..

i am not that nice like fratermathy...

you will have to deal with urhobos like me too in your useless biafra,not only fratermathy...!!..

Guy, take it easy, nah. He has not insulted you...yet . So why are you getting worked up? If he does not want to know the way to Urhobo land, it is his own loss, not so?

LiveByNight:


Shatap no one like Urhobos

You guys are the militants and croooks in the delta

Leave story and cry cry cry

I like what he said he likes itsekiris why e pain una

Me sef I actually dislike Urhobos ..

And forever you will be a minority to be absurbed in the new Yoruba nation to come

Hahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

At least you guys can serve as entertainers and comedians

Lazy group of crooks

park well,joor...

now i understand why our urhobo women poisoned una....

laudate:

Guy, take it easy, nah. He has not insulted you...yet . So why are you getting worked up? If he does not want to know the way to Urhobo land, it is his own loss, not so?

have you went through the ol thread......look the offensive things they write...

did we ever begged them to like urhobos before?....

LiveByNight:


Shatap you and that uchihaitaci Igbo are the same ...
.lazy militant crooks and drug dealers

I know that most niger delta people say urhobo are bad and me hate then too cos they all Igbo

Abeg another niger delta people here tell us how urhobo are

Besides una dey use vex talk matter for here wey pass una
.you hate urhobo you hate igbo
.me hate all of una oya divide the country sharply because me no wan dey with urhobo or Igbo

Rubbish people

go and hug a tree...!!!!...

gartamanta:
Personally, I think that the only people who were forced into anything are the ethnic groups who make up Nigeria. It was them that the West African fronteer force led by Lugard forced into an unholy union which Lugards wife called Nigeria. Ever since then, everybody has been fighting each other. An Hausa man who didnt know who Igbos were before the arrival of the British is now claiming he is 'one' with Igbos. He doesnt even care if the majority of Igbos share his point of view. A Bini man will get up and say he is 'South/South' with a Efik man. The same Bini man has no links with the Efik whatsoever. All these artificial unions such as Nigeria and South/South has to stop because only a few men sat than in a room to create them. What matters is what the people themselves choose because as it is, we are all in prison, even if we dont know it. That is why I like Kanu's push for a referendum. Nigeria has not seen a referendum of sovereignty since 1961 when the British Cameroons voted. Northern British Cameroon voted to join Nigeria, the South voted to join Republic of Cameroon. That is democracy.

What Kanu and IPOB are doing by calling for a referendum in the SE/SS area is no different from what a politician does when he goes to ask the people to vote for him. If you like the politician and his vision, you may choose to vote him in. If you dont like him, do the needful.

The important thing is that everyone is given the power of choice. None of us were given the choice to decide if we want to be Nigrians or not.

If we all remember, Scotland was given the choice to decide in 2014 if they want to be British. Why would anybody be dreaming about leaving a superpower nation like Britain? But the Scots agitated for it.

Nigeria is nowhere near Britain in terms of economic and technological advancement but some Nigerians are questioning the audacity of anyone to leave Nigeria?

Referendum is a democratic thing and people should learn to embrace it particularly the Southern minorities who have groaning under the weight of marginalisation.

The real question is whether the SS minorities have requested for any referendum? Or is it the Igbos that will ask for a referendum on their behalf?

bantudra:


and we dont want you to even know the road to urhoboland sef...

get lost!!!!..

i am not that nice like fratermathy...

you will have to deal with urhobos like me too in your useless biafra,not only fratermathy...!!..

who told you that you will be part of Biafra?

IyfeNamikaze:
. stop peddling false info here who are this "many people" that were jailed and executed?

when tinubu was facing challenges with the Fulani Mafia, didn't you see FFK and Fayose and every other Yoruba who has been against Tinubu and his APC all rally behind him to show support despite not buying into his ideologies? these are people who have been insulting each other rallying around Tinubu just because he is Yoruba. but you who claim to be igbo would rather throw your own people under the bus just to please the people whose only understanding of the term one Nigeria is unrestricted access to oil and power. smh.

and where did you see the ipob threatening and insulting people? is it the ipob that are threatening the Igbos with war and bloodshed? is it the ipob that gave the Igbos in the North a quit notice? or is it the ipob that label all the Igbos Igbos, OSU and Igbos?
when NK was addressing some Northerners during one of his many court appearance did you see him insult them?

it doesn't matter if you agree to what I am saying or not, fact is fact.
I really laugh at you people sha... I really do. you can keep talking bad about the ipob people all to the delight of those people, but when the chips are down everyone will answer his/her Papa name. You can ask the Azikiwes, the Ironsis the saro wiwas how far.

I'm not ipob but I never talk ill of them because they're Igbos. I mind you, at least more than 90%of Igbos want to go there way.

Are you ok? Who is peddling lies? Please go back and read factual accounts of the civil war, and you would see people within the Biafran enclave, who opposed Biafran ideology or their commanders, being jailed or executed. They were labelled as saboteurs. It was a well-known fact. Do you want rewrite history or change it?

As for FFK and Fayose supporting Tinubu, do you want to tell me that their support for the man was not seasonal? When FFK was still PDP spokesman, you want to lie, that you did not see him insulting Tinubu, not once but many times? Who let the cat out of the bag that APC was planning a joint Muslim/Muslim ticket? Wasn't it FFK, at that time? Even today, as I speak to you, has FFK & Fayose's support for Tinubu, not ended?

Oga, it will take a long time for you to understand how the Yorubas play their politics without bitterness, in this present dispensation!! All the Yorubas in PDP during the last election, did you see any of them following Tinubu while it lasted? Did Bode George & Obanikoro not oppose him repeatedly? When it was over, how many decamped to the APC to join Tinubu? Even when Saraki's problems started, it was attributed to Tinubu, because they felt Saraki got the Senate presidency through the back door, and the Yoruba supporters of APC & Tinubu led by Gbajabiamila, were determined to fight him to a standstill, because he was not their candidate! So what are you saying?

But in all their battles and encounters, there was some degree of mutual respect. Even when their media skirmishes were going on, emissaries were being sent to both sides, to clarify and explain their various positions, and try to broker peace. Compare this approach with the one used by IPOB that tries to denigrate, insult and attack all those who do not share their ideologies. I have lived in Lagos for many years, and know several of these SW people and seen how these things work.

Another thing you and your IPOB members do is that you thrive on assumptions. And assumptions are the mother of all fvck ups. I have never told you that I am Igbo, yet you came out with your guns blazing ready to launch a full-scale attack, simply because I disagreed with your IPOBian views.

Is this how your Biafran republic would run, once it is born? With no room for opposing views or dissent? As they say, morning shows the day, and from the little I can see - if the approach & attitude of your IPOB members do not kill your dream for a new republic, your intolerance for opposing views will certainly sound a death knell to its growth! End of story!

Finally, I have seen IPOB insulting others. What do you think Radio Biafra has been doing? What was Nnamdi Kanu saying about Nigeria and other ethnic groups, before he was picked and sent to Kuje? Oh, you did not see the insults and hate speech he was peddling? What did he say about Igbo women? Ok, try and google it. The internet never forgets, even when people like you pretend not to remember....

Let me leave you with this;

AmuDimpka:
•.It is important to note that the people of the South West were not over-excited about the re-emergence of Obasanjo. As a matter of fact, they became his most ardent opponents. In anger, Obasanjo turned his war against Yoruba leaders like Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu. Lagos State was deprived of its statutory allocations, even after the Supreme Court ruled in its favour. Interestingly, the current Acting President, Professor Yemi Osinbajo, was the Lagos State Attorney General that fought spiritedly against the Federal Government at the time. The lesson I wish to draw from this is that, sometimes, it is better, and safer, to fight a battle of wits than a duel of brawn. The use of force can never guarantee a meaningful victorious end. https://etimes.com.ng/exactly-restructuring-dele-momodu/

Malawian:

who told you that you will be part of Biafra?

and who told you i want to be part of your useless biafra..??..

why adding me to your useless biafra map and when i say something you call me afonja?...

do you realy think i will still not fight you even after calling me afonja?...

Kirigidi:

You should be ashamed of your slave Igbo tribe first for loosing political relevance in Nigeria! A whole 3rd largest ethnic group in Nigeria has been reduced to minority status and they have no idea of how to rescue themselves from such pitiable situation. What a shame! Igbo is such a disorganized tribe. They have been agitating for Biafra and we Nger Deltans told them go to your Biafra alone they said no! Can't you Igbos stand on your own? Must you attach yourselves to us? Is it not even a shame on you to be attaching yourselves to minorities as if you are babies? The other day, Arewa youths told you vacate the North to your Igboland and start your Biafra country but you Igbos were afraid and started visiting Northern leaders to beg. Without shame, you were insisting Northerners should organise referendum for you first! How? Are they your fathers? Are Northerners your lords and masters that you have to get their approval before leaving? What a slave mentality! Are you both [Ndigbo and Arewa] not suppose to be equal stakeholders in the Nigerian Project? Are you not ashamed waiting for your fellow citizens [Arewa] whom you often tagged illiterates to give you approval before establishing your own country? Cowards! The only thing you know is to chest-beat making noise up and down shouting Biafra without action! You think freedom is given on platter of gold, you day-dreamers?

Sorry for your tribe. I pity the Ijaws and Itshekiris that accommodated a tribe that should not exist in the first place, a tribe of thieves from Okotie Eboh to Ibori. If the Igbo lost relevance, did it go to the Usobo? You remain what are and will continue to be. Wait for Igbo re-strategization. We will join the north and take all your oil.

urhobo! ovuovo! urhobo mena ovuovo!

we the urhobo people are known for bin smart, brave and fearless this the igbo's ipob know.

we have spoken so if they desire their biafra they should go and get it but it should be noted by kanu and his followers that we are not part of his plan.

fratermathy:


Exactly! Thank you for your apt observation. I create threads directed mainly at minorities and Urhobos on Nairaland. But these IPOB youths somehow manage to get in and derail it. Yet they say I am the issue. How many times have I derailed an Igbo thread on Nairaland?


It's sad that they would call me anti-Igbo when they are the ones going around creating enemies across the nation. So what should I do when they insult me and my people because we rejected their cause? I should sit and allow the insults continue? I can't keep doing that everytime because some of the things they say need to be addressed heads on.

But what exactly have I done that Ikology, Ikechu48, Freemancipation, and their lots have not done ten times over to Yoruba, Hausa, Urhobo, Itsekiri, Igbo, Ibibio, et al.? They serve the dish yet call out others for serving it back at them? SUCH HYPOCRISY!

I don't engage in back and forth supremacy battles. You can check my posts. I am not an advocate of secession, I believe there is a clear distinction between IPOB and IGBO. IPOB from my perspective is being used to create chaos for political gains. Whoever thinks Ndi Igbo is pursuing the creation of another country need to be checked. That's why I found your proliferation of topics with Biafra very disturbing. Igbos are not interested in creating any country not to mention country with Urhobo. Stop disturbing your self nor our peace about biafra